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Some NE draft comments at the NFL annual meeting

GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 3:12 pm
Ahead of what Robert Kraft has dubbed the "most anticipated" draft of his tenure as owner of the Patriots, director of scouting Eliot Wolf and head coach Jerod Mayo hold the highest draft selection (No. 3 overall) since 1993.

According to Mayo, New England has their sights set on taking a quarterback:

"It's the priority right now," the new head coach told NFL Network's Steve Wyche at the Annual League Meeting. "But with that being said, you have to really be in love with the guy to take him at No. 3. So really all the options are still open for us."


It's priority to get a QB, but......
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2024 3:19 pm : link
So, in essence...

'Coach, are you planning on taking a QB?'
'Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.'
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section125 : 3/24/2024 3:32 pm : link
In comment 16444745 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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So, in essence...

'Coach, are you planning on taking a QB?'
'Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.'


Yeah, not really. He said, We are taking the QB we like and if not, we will trade with the Giants for a WR!
That comment is pretty generic,  
BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 3:37 pm : link
My gut tells me there isn't a guy they are really in love with at 3. If I'm NE and it's JJM or Maye vs Odunze/Nabers/Alt/Nix plus our pick 47, 2025 1st and 3rd then I know what I would do. If JD somehow is there at 3 then the pick would be submitted instantaneously
They are taking a QB. They are hoping to never be in this position  
Blue21 : 3/24/2024 3:41 pm : link
again.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2024 3:41 pm : link
Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.
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section125 : 3/24/2024 3:43 pm : link
In comment 16444768 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Hahaha, I'm sure you can find that in one of the posts on BBI. You can find any POV on BBI!
This just reaffirms  
auxelectric : 3/24/2024 3:44 pm : link
The previous reporting that they really only live some of the QBs (Daniels). Hoping that coincides with the rumored trade down with the Giants in that they really do have a conditional trade agreed upon for 3. At least the reports that NE is taking a QB no matter what isn’t completely true. I really hope Schoen has this trade locked up if NE’s QB isn’t there at 3.
There’s really no way to tell who likes who after #1  
Jaenyg : 3/24/2024 3:46 pm : link
I do think that Shoen has managed to look prepared for every scenario the last 2 drafts and I am confident they have deals in place for every scenario.

What I am not confident in yet is that the giants can adequately scout and/or have a team vision that they are building towards. Time will tell.
If their guy is there at 3, they'll take him  
UberAlias : 3/24/2024 3:56 pm : link
But my guess is they don't see 3 QBs being worthy of the #3 pick overall. So if there guy isn't there, they will listen.
section125.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2024 3:59 pm : link
Touche. & right
I  
AcidTest : 3/24/2024 4:24 pm : link
think they will "stick and pick" at #3. Trading to #6 means they may well miss out on JJM, since Minnesota seems determined to do whatever it takes to get into the top #5 to take him. They would then have to overdraft Nix at #6, or miss out on him and likely Penix as well, which means they will get none of the top six QBs. Asking them to incur that risk will only increase the price to move up to #3 to the point that I think it becomes too rich for Schoen. I don't see Schoen trading #6, #47, and our #1 and #3 next year to get to #3, but even that might not be enough.

NE also doesn't know when they'll be in a position to again draft a QB without having to trade up. Our #1 next year could be the 15th pick. Even if our #1 and their #1 are both in the top 10, that still might not be enough for them to move up to get a QB. They might not even be able to find a trade partner.

If we did trade with NE, I'd rather trade players than picks. Maybe Neal, Ojulari, and our #1 next year.
Well done by Mayo. He said exactly what he's supposed to say  
arniefez : 3/24/2024 4:27 pm : link
No different than Brian Daboll correctly saying that Jones is the guy for the Giants. Whether not everyone already knows what you're going to do is not the point., The point at this time of year is to confirm nothing and keep your options open. Maybe some team will make you a Godfather offer.
New England  
Giantsbigblue : 3/24/2024 4:27 pm : link
Trading us means they don't see any QB worthy of that pick or they think there is several guys rated the same. They are in worse shape then us and have Brissett and Zappe right now. I'm all set with that.
Mayo IMO  
Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2024 5:43 pm : link
Confirmed what I've heard from my buddy that works in the NFL. If Caleb or Jayden are their at 3 they'll select a QB. If they aren't (Which most expect to be the case) they are going to work on trading down.
RE: Mayo IMO  
GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16444839 Big Rick in FL said:
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Confirmed what I've heard from my buddy that works in the NFL. If Caleb or Jayden are their at 3 they'll select a QB. If they aren't (Which most expect to be the case) they are going to work on trading down.


Well then maybe Schoen does have a tentative deal in place with NE if that's the case.
To me it sounded like  
Amtoft : 3/24/2024 6:09 pm : link
We are drafting a QB 100% if our guy is there, if not we will probably still take a QB unless a team gives us a massive over pay.
RE: Mayo IMO  
BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16444839 Big Rick in FL said:
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Confirmed what I've heard from my buddy that works in the NFL. If Caleb or Jayden are their at 3 they'll select a QB. If they aren't (Which most expect to be the case) they are going to work on trading down.


That's the best move for them imo. They will likely get pick 6, 47 a 2025 1st and some change from us and I still believe what I've heard regarding them liking Nix but they will have the option of 2 blue chip receivers a blue chip tackle or Nix along with pick 47, a future 1st and a 3rd or so.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 6:24 pm : link
In comment 16444790 AcidTest said:
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think they will "stick and pick" at #3. Trading to #6 means they may well miss out on JJM, since Minnesota seems determined to do whatever it takes to get into the top #5 to take him. They would then have to overdraft Nix at #6, or miss out on him and likely Penix as well, which means they will get none of the top six QBs. Asking them to incur that risk will only increase the price to move up to #3 to the point that I think it becomes too rich for Schoen. I don't see Schoen trading #6, #47, and our #1 and #3 next year to get to #3, but even that might not be enough.

NE also doesn't know when they'll be in a position to again draft a QB without having to trade up. Our #1 next year could be the 15th pick. Even if our #1 and their #1 are both in the top 10, that still might not be enough for them to move up to get a QB. They might not even be able to find a trade partner.

If we did trade with NE, I'd rather trade players than picks. Maybe Neal, Ojulari, and our #1 next year.


I wouldn't be surprised if the reports are true about us wanting JJM and if we trade up to 3 its for him. I'm with Randy Mueller and Chris Simms on this one, JJM is a better prospect than Maye.
JJM is a better prospect than Maye imo**  
BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 6:25 pm : link
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According to some astute...  
bw in dc : 3/24/2024 6:28 pm : link
BBI poster on another thread, the Pats should build a great team first and then add the QB as the last piece.

Hopefully, they are stupid enough to do that.
I wonder if they consider the fact  
Giantsfan79 : 3/24/2024 6:40 pm : link
that a Michigan man did all right by them as a QB draft pick before, so why not again with JJ?
RE: According to some astute...  
ThomasG : 3/24/2024 6:58 pm : link
In comment 16444865 bw in dc said:
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BBI poster on another thread, the Pats should build a great team first and then add the QB as the last piece.

Hopefully, they are stupid enough to do that.


That type of thinking never grows old.

As if everything else can neatly be put in place...the roster stands still in perpetuity...and then you strike since you are in position somehow to take a franchise QB in the draft.

Flawless plan.

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Tuckrule : 3/24/2024 7:04 pm : link
In comment 16444768 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3
Drake Maye  
JoeyBigBlue : 3/24/2024 7:07 pm : link
Seems to be getting overanalyzed in the draft process. He has big time potential. If we move up to 3 and not give up next years first (6th, 47, and next years second) I’d be all over that.
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GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 7:11 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3


That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 7:29 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3



That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.


Ita been said here by two long time posters with connections to NFL people.
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GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 7:30 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3



That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.



Ita been said here by two long time posters with connections to NFL people.


Who?
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BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 7:36 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3



That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.



Ita been said here by two long time posters with connections to NFL people.



Who?


It was from threads a while back, one was from a poster that said he has a friend with close ties to the Patriots and I believe he SaiD Nix was in their top 3 QBs. He doesn't post a lot here, but he's been on the board a long time. I don't remember his name. This was 2-3 months ago I believe. I'll try to find the post.
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Mike from Ohio : 3/24/2024 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16444865 bw in dc said:
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BBI poster on another thread, the Pats should build a great team first and then add the QB as the last piece.

Hopefully, they are stupid enough to do that.


That post is one of the few that is dumber than “QBs are a gamble. Pick a guy at another position who you know you won’t bust.”

Giants fans are absolutely not smarter than the fans of other teams.
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Jaenyg : 3/24/2024 7:46 pm : link
In comment 16444919 Mike from Ohio said:
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BBI poster on another thread, the Pats should build a great team first and then add the QB as the last piece.

Hopefully, they are stupid enough to do that.



That post is one of the few that is dumber than “QBs are a gamble. Pick a guy at another position who you know you won’t bust.”

Giants fans are absolutely not smarter than the fans of other teams.


Don’t forget about the brilliant strategy of trading DOWN for a specific target.

And I’m still waiting to see my all time favorite BBI strategy “BPA at a position of need”
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GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 7:55 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3



That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.



Ita been said here by two long time posters with connections to NFL people.



Who?



It was from threads a while back, one was from a poster that said he has a friend with close ties to the Patriots and I believe he SaiD Nix was in their top 3 QBs. He doesn't post a lot here, but he's been on the board a long time. I don't remember his name. This was 2-3 months ago I believe. I'll try to find the post.


Other than some random posts here then which you saw months ago, it's not mentioned anywhere else that I can find. The odds if I had to guess are probably 1% that it being true. Maye and McCarthy they "might" have equally rated, but Nix? Highly doubtful.
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Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2024 7:55 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3



That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.



Ita been said here by two long time posters with connections to NFL people.



Who?



It was from threads a while back, one was from a poster that said he has a friend with close ties to the Patriots and I believe he SaiD Nix was in their top 3 QBs. He doesn't post a lot here, but he's been on the board a long time. I don't remember his name. This was 2-3 months ago I believe. I'll try to find the post.


I believe what you're talking about is a post I made a while back. But how you're remembering it is inaccurate.

I have a friend who works for an NFL team (Certainly not the Pats. In fact it's not even an AFC team) and he had heard that a team picking in the top 5 had Bo Nix as their 3rd rated QB. Idk if my buddy knows what team it is, but I wasn't told a team.
Pats taking Nix at 3  
Sammo85 : 3/24/2024 8:15 pm : link
would be a stunner but it would help us.
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Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2024 8:16 pm : link
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would be a stunner but it would help us.


The Pats aren't taking Nix at 3.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 8:26 pm : link
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would be a stunner but it would help us.



The Pats aren't taking Nix at 3.


Yeah, definitely not at 3. Perhaps after trade down. They could get pick 6, 47 2025 1st and 3rd from us then take Nix or maybe with some luck get Nix after trading with Vikings for picks 11, 23 2025 1st and 3rd.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 8:28 pm : link
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Forget where I read it-might have BBI for all I know-but there are rumors that the Pats are high on Nix.


Yea top of round 2. You would have to be insane to take that kid at 3



That's been posted on BBI by BleedBlue46 on a number of threads. I've been searching on the NE boards before and I saw not one mention of this, nor could I find any NFL media type propose they like Nix that highly as well.



Ita been said here by two long time posters with connections to NFL people.



Who?



It was from threads a while back, one was from a poster that said he has a friend with close ties to the Patriots and I believe he SaiD Nix was in their top 3 QBs. He doesn't post a lot here, but he's been on the board a long time. I don't remember his name. This was 2-3 months ago I believe. I'll try to find the post.



Other than some random posts here then which you saw months ago, it's not mentioned anywhere else that I can find. The odds if I had to guess are probably 1% that it being true. Maye and McCarthy they "might" have equally rated, but Nix? Highly doubtful.


Chris Simms is better than any pundit out there for draft QB analysis, he has Nix and JJM in his franchise qb tier with Maye as his 6th rated QB. I wouldn't be so sure. Nix is going between 6-12 imo.
Overposting. Turning into psycho-babble nonsense  
ThomasG : 3/24/2024 8:28 pm : link
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RE: Overposting. Turning into psycho-babble nonsense  
BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 9:57 pm : link
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I appreciate thar, I did need to calm down. Thanks Thomas.
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