Reviewing a bunch of online mock drafts

Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom.

Yeah, thinking that we take a WR at 6 unless we move up. I also think the idea of Maye dropping into our lap at 6 is loco talk.

In comment 16444827 Fast Eddie said:

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Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom.

So Harrison Jr. has no chance to be a bust? Wow. Just put him into Canton now then.

with a move-up deal to beat the Vikings. Not really, I think those mocks are pretty close to what the Giants will select at 6, Nabers or Odunze.

They would be forgoing either a blue chip QB or WR to pick at 11. That other 1st doesn’t make up for that. I’m sure that’s what the Vikings are trying to do. Don’t think they will find a partner.

when was the last time NFL media universe predicted something so universally about the draft and it happened?

In comment 16444830 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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In comment 16444827 Fast Eddie said: Quote: Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom. So Harrison Jr. has no chance to be a bust? Wow. Just put him into Canton now then.

It’s why people pay millions for one of Secretariats kids. Harrison is the surest thing not to be a bust in the draft.

they can outbid the Vikings. 6 and 47 this year, and throw in a 1 or a 2 next year, would be worth more than what the Vikings have. Not saying that they should do that. All this conjecture is useless without knowing where the Giants have the QBs rated and who will be available after the first 2 picks. But, I guess that's what BBI is for, so we've got 5 more weeks of this, sigh

wanting to move down to 11, but what do I know?

for the top half of the 1st round and really whole 1st round. So much will be impacted by where the QBs go.

In comment 16444827 Fast Eddie said:

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Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom.

Like Saquon?

Yeah, there’s a chance everyone can bust…but a fucking hall of famer’s kid prodigy? Is that the hill you choose to die on?

I don’t want MHJ because he might be an eagle fan. I’ll die on that hill.

I believe the word from BBI Asshattery that the Patriots prefer to trade down with us, and I believe the word that NE trades down if JD/CW are gone. A likely scenario very well may be us trading a huge haul for pick 3 to take JJM in which this place would go ballistic. It's a big risk to take, but I think it's less risky for Schoen as JJM as a significantly higher floor imo. If we trade picks 6, 47, 2025 1st and 3rd for JJM, this place is going to erupt with people calling for Schoen's head in juxtaposition to people saying well they have conviction so let's see how it unfolds.

In comment 16444861 Sammo85 said:

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for the top half of the 1st round and really whole 1st round. So much will be impacted by where the QBs go.

I don't think there is much of a question like the media and fans would have you believe. JD is in a tier above Maye imo and I think the Commanders think so too. We will see.

In comment 16444858 Chris684 said:

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wanting to move down to 11, but what do I know?

Colin at GBN Draft Report suggested a hypothetical 2-step trade where Arizona moves down to 11 and then back up to the Giants spot at 6.

In comment 16444858 Chris684 said:

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wanting to move down to 11, but what do I know?

If the Vikings offer 11, 23, and what will likely be a high first in 2025 (since they would be starting a rookie QB in 2024), that may be enticing

That anyone in the top 5 would drop gown that far … I just can’t believe that .

In comment 16444835 Ben in Tampa said:

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when was the last time NFL media universe predicted something so universally about the draft and it happened?

I agree with this. I can't think of anything that's been predicted so much actually happening in the Draft. At least this early. Obviously there are some predictions come draft week or draft day that end up happening, but that's typically something in the top 2 or 3 picks. Not a team moving up from 11 while jumping a team picking 5 spots better.

In comment 16444879 BleedBlue46 said:

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In comment 16444861 Sammo85 said: Quote: for the top half of the 1st round and really whole 1st round. So much will be impacted by where the QBs go. I don't think there is much of a question like the media and fans would have you believe. JD is in a tier above Maye imo and I think the Commanders think so too. We will see.

That’s why it’s a pivot point either way right in those two picks. Range of combinations either expected or unexpected will change the orthodoxy people have in their minds.

but the writing is on the wall that the guy they want will be gone so they are moving on to WR.

But they would rather a team behind them jump up to take the 4th QB so they are left with either their 1st or 2nd WR.

I still think it goes QB, QB, QB then WR, WR, WR

even if he's on the board at 6. He doesn't look to me like what they want in a QB. But it's not like you're going to get a 6-6" Josh Allen clone later in the draft. You can only take the guys who are on the board.

They all get nervous to go against the grain when something like this happens. 2) if the giants just sit there as passive observers while Vikings jump then they’ll deserve what they get. We have the assets to outbid Vikings, and the writers aren’t talking about the possibility of the giants moving up enough imo because they tell all taking Daboll and schoen at their word that Jones is fine and the starter.

There are times where the overall top 10 are correct but with big surprises that impact individual teams along the way, and sometimes it goes nothing like what's expected. The only question is, at what point will it diverge from the consensus. Just as a random example, people act like Daniels being there for us at 6 would be a major shocker. Why? Shit like that happens literally every year.

A WR is useless without a QB. He could be the best ever and won't help us win if don't solve the QB position. You go QB every single time over a WR until you have the QB.

In comment 16444827 Fast Eddie said:

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Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom.

indicates they are not moving up.

If a qb they like falls to them so be it otherwise I think they trade down to recoup the second round pick they gave up and just continue to plug holes in the roster.

They can get their qb next year.

In comment 16445053 kelly said:

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indicates they are not moving up. If a qb they like falls to them so be it otherwise I think they trade down to recoup the second round pick they gave up and just continue to plug holes in the roster. They can get their qb next year.

Can they? You're expecting a top 5 pick and the QB class to not be a 2021 redux?

I wouldn't be surprised if a team desperate for that stud OT wanted to trade up to #6 to jump the Titans.

I could see Schoen being open to the right deal if it comes along.

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In comment 16444827 Fast Eddie said: Quote: Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom. Like Saquon?

Or how Evan Neal was a sure fire safest floor tackle in the draft?

I love how people label the people they like as automatic success, and one they dont like as potential busts. LOL

Schoen traded #6, #47, and our first and third next year for JJM, he better be right. If JJM turns into Sam Darnold after giving up all that draft capital then Schoen should be fired, but not if that happens after taking him at #6.

In comment 16444827 Fast Eddie said:

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Passing on a generational talent like mhjr for a qb who has a 50/50 chance at bustdom.

They said the same thing about Sammy Watkins and I recall a large number of Giants fans on here wanting "Generational talent" Kyle Pitts lol.

In comment 16445202 AcidTest said:

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Schoen traded #6, #47, and our first and third next year for JJM, he better be right. If JJM turns into Sam Darnold after giving up all that draft capital then Schoen should be fired, but not if that happens after taking him at #6.

He will live or die with the next QB taken for sure.