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For those asking, Neal staying at RT (for now)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/25/2024 2:08 pm
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Joe Schoen also spoke to reporters. Predictably, he was very tight-lipped on QB/draft plans. A few notes on the current roster:

• Schoen said Daniel Jones is running on land (progress from running on an anti-gravity treadmill) and throwing. Schoen expects Jones to be ready for the start of training camp.

• Still no word from Darren Waller on if he's retiring. Schoen wouldn't say if there's a deadline for a decision. Waller told me three weeks ago that he'd be making his decision "pretty soon."

• Schoen said Evan Neal will remain at right tackle and there's no plan for him to shift to guard. So looks like Jermaine Eluemunor will open the spring at guard.
Bricillo  
bc4life : 3/25/2024 2:15 pm : link
hasn't even had a chance to practice or coach these guys yet.
So, I am not surprised. Firing their last coach was huge deal.
In case anyone doesn’t know:  
81_Great_Dane : 3/25/2024 2:24 pm : link
Straight line running isn’t the problem with a torn or repaired ACL. Cutting, twisting, jumping and landing are much more of an issue.

The fact he’s running helps his conditioning but doesn’t tell us much about his recovery.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/25/2024 2:26 pm : link
Still not giving up on Neal at RT.
Jones updates mean  
jvm52106 : 3/25/2024 2:29 pm : link
Nothing draft wise.. Now possible future trade, that is a different story.
I'm  
Semipro Lineman : 3/25/2024 2:42 pm : link
curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.
RE: I'm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/25/2024 2:45 pm : link
In comment 16445634 Semipro Lineman said:
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curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.


When did the Giants shift William Roberts to guard?
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Angel Eyes : 3/25/2024 2:48 pm : link
In comment 16445637 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16445634 Semipro Lineman said:


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curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.



When did the Giants shift William Roberts to guard?

PFR indicates 1989 where he's listed as left guard as opposed to LT the year prior.
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Semipro Lineman : 3/25/2024 2:48 pm : link
In comment 16445637 Eric from BBI said:
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When did the Giants shift William Roberts to guard?


According to Wikipedia, it was his sixth year in the league. (Drafted in 84 and switched in 89)
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Schoen said Evan Neal will remain at right tackle  
David B. : 3/25/2024 2:53 pm : link
And Daboll said he "expected Wink will be back."

No one should believe anything being said right now.

Neal will only remain at RT if he legit beats out Eluminor in camp.

Obviously, that would be the best outcome, but they're not going to just hand RT to Neal if Eluminor's a clearly better option.
RE: I'm  
barens : 3/25/2024 2:54 pm : link
In comment 16445634 Semipro Lineman said:
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curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.


He did play guard at Alabama, so it's not totally out there.
Leonard Davis?  
Jaenyg : 3/25/2024 2:54 pm : link
Robert Gallery?

Probably not 2 years, and also eons ago…
Antrelle  
Jaenyg : 3/25/2024 2:55 pm : link
Rolle?
RE: Antrelle  
Semipro Lineman : 3/25/2024 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16445652 Jaenyg said:
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Rolle?


Good call on Antrell Rolle as he was moved to free safety from cornerback in 2008 after being drafted in 2005. So he lasted three years in his original position before being changed. It also appears that he lost his starting position mid-way through his third season as well.
RE: Schoen said Evan Neal will remain at right tackle  
DaveInTampa : 3/25/2024 3:13 pm : link
In comment 16445648 David B. said:
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And Daboll said he "expected Wink will be back."

No one should believe anything being said right now.

Neal will only remain at RT if he legit beats out Eluminor in camp.

Obviously, that would be the best outcome, but they're not going to just hand RT to Neal if Eluminor's a clearly better option.


But at what point do they decide on a "winner" for the position. If they decide Eleuminor is the better RT, they need to then have time to assess Neal at one of the guard spots. With the shortened training camp and fewer preseason games, there's not much time . I don't want to see a repeat of last season when guys were put in positions they hadn't even practiced, ie Ezeudu at LT.
When we know when the bye week will be, we will have a better idea of  
Ivan15 : 3/25/2024 4:18 pm : link
When Neal will be replaced, but he probably will move to backup tackle - not to starting guard.
I think...  
Kanavis : 3/25/2024 4:51 pm : link
Zach Martin and Brandon Scherff both played LT in college. I honestly dont get all the hand ringing with moving Neal. He played guard in college. He is not playing well in the pros. The shift from side to side might be more than the shift from guard to tackle. This is a team that had Ezudu paying tackle with no reps. If Neal wasnt drafted so high I think he would have had at least some preseason reps at both positions by now.

Hoping the new coach can get him to play at potential at RT. But they shouldn't sit by and watch him sabotage drives anymore.
RE: Schoen said Evan Neal will remain at right tackle  
BillT : 3/25/2024 4:52 pm : link
In comment 16445648 David B. said:
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Neal will only remain at RT if he legit beats out Eluminor in camp.


Not sure this is true. If Neal and Eluminor are both in our top 5 OLs they both could start even if Eluminor is a better RT. Why? Because he's also our best RG and if you move him to RT then who do you play at RG. Our 6th or 7th best OL. Neal likely won't be ready to play RG.
SF  
AROCK1000 : 3/25/2024 4:57 pm : link
In comment 16445616 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still not giving up on Neal at RT.

The power of positive thinking...I agree with ya
What makes moving to guard so difficult?  
kelly : 3/25/2024 6:56 pm : link
He played guard in college. If you play tackle you have to know the responsibilities of the guard so he should know those assignments.

I don't see Neal as being athletic enough to play tackle in the pros.
Neal is not going to be starting at RT. No way!  
Dave in Buffalo : 3/25/2024 8:20 pm : link
We brought in a real RT. Writing is on the wall in large!

If lucky, we don't have to see Neal at all.
The question is who are the best 5?  
DavidinBMNY : 3/25/2024 8:42 pm : link
All three of their drafted OL in year 1 by Schoen have missed significant time. You have to hope one of Neal , Ezudu or McKeethan develop with the coaching.

I can only count 4 ahead of Neal.

It’s fine if Neal gets a shot to start, but I would expect him on a short leash.

Also with so many young OL yet to develop, I would rather they invest in DL, DB,QB and WR as draft priorities.
RE: I'm  
Someguy1978 : 3/25/2024 9:01 pm : link
In comment 16445634 Semipro Lineman said:
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curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.


One that come to mind is when Washington drafted Brandon Scherff to be their RT but moved him to guard pretty early on in his rookie year.
RE: RE: I'm  
section125 : 3/25/2024 9:11 pm : link
In comment 16445637 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16445634 Semipro Lineman said:


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curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.



When did the Giants shift William Roberts to guard?


'86 or so...
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djm : 3/25/2024 9:16 pm : link
In comment 16445616 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still not giving up on Neal at RT.


Yep same here and people need to remember he’s only played 20 games thus far. Each of his two seasons torpedoed by injury. At the very least Neal needs to play 10 straight games in 2024. 10 straight to open the season. If he still sucks after those then we talk about his career projecting. The guy needs reps. It’s not an excuse he’s been bad but they don’t say practice makes perfect for nothing. It matters.
RE: RE: I'm  
Walker Gillette : 3/26/2024 11:20 am : link
In comment 16445637 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16445634 Semipro Lineman said:


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curious, does anyone remember a team changing a high 1st round draft pick's position after just two seasons in recent memory? Isaiah Simmons is the only one I can think of.



When did the Giants shift William Roberts to guard?


I will be so happy if Neal can turn turn into Roberts at RG cause he scares the hell out of me as a T
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