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Ladd McConkey

kickoff : 3/25/2024 2:47 pm
I'm not a stat guy or did I see any of his games, but just going by his combine performance and highlights this guy looks phenomenal. Anybody else impressed?
Of course, everyone is, but  
barens : 3/25/2024 2:51 pm : link
he's not going to be in our range in the second round, may even end up in first round.
The problem for us is he is a slot guy.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/25/2024 2:52 pm : link
He should definitely be a target for us but we need a guy that can play and win outside.
One of my favorite players in this draft...  
bw in dc : 3/25/2024 3:07 pm : link
Fast, quick, elusive, looks like a good route runner and surehanded. I think he was one of the more unguardable WRs in this draft.

He's a slot guy first, but over time I could see him being an outside option, too.
Would love to have him  
JonC : 3/25/2024 3:15 pm : link
even over Robinson, easily.
RE: Would love to have him  
Tuckrule : 3/25/2024 3:28 pm : link
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even over Robinson, easily.


You’re underselling Wandale. He’s now fully recovered from the acl. He is explosive and his yac ability is insane. He was totally underutilized. If we can get a true 1 it will open things up for him and he has more deep threat ability than what he’s shown. Don’t sleep on Wandale I’m expecting a huge season for this kid. He also can play RB as well he’s insanely versatile. I wouldn’t trade Wandale for McConkey straight up. Not a chance. Cede lamb called Wandale his sleeper WR for 2024.
Ok Gettleman  
JonC : 3/25/2024 3:30 pm : link
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RE: Ok Gettleman  
Tuckrule : 3/25/2024 3:36 pm : link
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You are very strange. I guess Andrew Thomas sucks also because Dave drafted him. A guy can be a shitty GM but can select good players too right. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
RE: Ok Gettleman  
4xchamps : 3/25/2024 3:36 pm : link
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God forbid someone have a different opinion than you....
Lighten up  
JonC : 3/25/2024 3:37 pm : link
it was a joke.
RE: RE: Ok Gettleman  
JonC : 3/25/2024 3:38 pm : link
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God forbid someone have a different opinion than you....


Who the fuck are you? lol.
RE: Lighten up  
Tuckrule : 3/25/2024 3:38 pm : link
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it was a joke.


Hard to detect on the internet with a one liner. I’m just saying I’m a huge fan of Wandale and loved him at Kentucky. Shocked we took him because his traits are insanely rare for a WR. Short arms etc. but he’s shown he’s a weapon even with poor qb play and a bad offensive system. I’m praying for Rome round 1
RE: RE: Lighten up  
JonC : 3/25/2024 3:40 pm : link
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it was a joke.



Hard to detect on the internet with a one liner. I’m just saying I’m a huge fan of Wandale and loved him at Kentucky. Shocked we took him because his traits are insanely rare for a WR. Short arms etc. but he’s shown he’s a weapon even with poor qb play and a bad offensive system. I’m praying for Rome round 1


It's all good, I just wouldn't hold up trying to get better because of Wandale. Or Hyatt, for that matter, there's so much high quality WRs coming up and NYG needs more.
I agree  
Tuckrule : 3/25/2024 3:42 pm : link
If we take Rome it bumps Hyatt down to 4 which I’m fine with but with McKenzie backing up wandale I really would like a big body WR. Something we’ve been missing for a long time. Not to ruin the thread. Would you consider Bowers at 6 if the Qbs are off the board. I’m not a JJ guy or Daniels. For me it’s Maye or let’s take an offensive weapon. Bowers could be a game changing tight end for our offense. Belly and Bowers. Not a bad duo or would you go Rome
I would not  
JonC : 3/25/2024 3:49 pm : link
I'd be looking squarely at Rome at #6. If you can't get the QB at #6, get the #1 WR.

The wildcard for me is Dallas Turner. Spending huge on Burns probably eliminates going Edge early. And, if they picked Turner it would probably mean the timer's been started for KT to go elsewhere.
Quality player. Very sure handed and clutch on 3rd downs whether  
ThomasG : 3/25/2024 3:53 pm : link
he is open or not. Too small to play outside on a consistent basis but can run deep routes with the best of them.

Never thought he would be a first round guy though. Figured early Day 2.
RE: I would not  
barens : 3/25/2024 3:56 pm : link
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I'd be looking squarely at Rome at #6. If you can't get the QB at #6, get the #1 WR.

The wildcard for me is Dallas Turner. Spending huge on Burns probably eliminates going Edge early. And, if they picked Turner it would probably mean the timer's been started for KT to go elsewhere.


Yeah, big fan of Turner as well, just don't see how they can go that route now. Before the Burns trade, I would have been all for it, now, I just don't see how they can go that route.
I like him a lot...  
Amtoft : 3/25/2024 3:58 pm : link
I have him behind some others like Ricky Pearsall and Malachi Corley. I would love so many of these good WRs in the 2nd/3rd round range. We need a DT though also so it will be tough to make happen.
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JonC : 3/25/2024 4:00 pm : link
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I'd be looking squarely at Rome at #6. If you can't get the QB at #6, get the #1 WR.

The wildcard for me is Dallas Turner. Spending huge on Burns probably eliminates going Edge early. And, if they picked Turner it would probably mean the timer's been started for KT to go elsewhere.



Yeah, big fan of Turner as well, just don't see how they can go that route now. Before the Burns trade, I would have been all for it, now, I just don't see how they can go that route.


Depends on how they view KT's future beyond season four. Right now, they could fit Turner under the cap and have time to decide on KT.

I'd wager NYG goes offense either way.
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Amtoft : 3/25/2024 4:03 pm : link
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I'd be looking squarely at Rome at #6. If you can't get the QB at #6, get the #1 WR.

The wildcard for me is Dallas Turner. Spending huge on Burns probably eliminates going Edge early. And, if they picked Turner it would probably mean the timer's been started for KT to go elsewhere.



Yeah, big fan of Turner as well, just don't see how they can go that route now. Before the Burns trade, I would have been all for it, now, I just don't see how they can go that route.



Depends on how they view KT's future beyond season four. Right now, they could fit Turner under the cap and have time to decide on KT.

I'd wager NYG goes offense either way.


No way they go Turner... They want an impact player at 6 if not a QB. Turner would be an impact if we didn't have Thibs and Burns. He would be a situational pass rusher or would push Thibs to a sit pass rusher. I doubt they want that kind of impact at pick 6.
RE: RE: Ok Gettleman  
KDavies : 3/25/2024 4:07 pm : link
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You are very strange. I guess Andrew Thomas sucks also because Dave drafted him. A guy can be a shitty GM but can select good players too right. They aren’t mutually exclusive.


Didn't Schoen draft Robinson?
Jon C  
Jaenyg : 3/25/2024 4:22 pm : link
I’m perfectly content with Turner despite Burns and KT. Build on a strength and make it the focal point of the team.

That being said, is Turner a blue chip edge or just the best red chipper in a year without a blue chipper?

If so, I’d prefer Rome, who seems like a blue chipper with a high floor due to work ethic. I’m concerned about separation ability though.


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JonC : 3/25/2024 4:33 pm : link
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You are very strange. I guess Andrew Thomas sucks also because Dave drafted him. A guy can be a shitty GM but can select good players too right. They aren’t mutually exclusive.



Didn't Schoen draft Robinson?


He did. The joke was about the "don't sleep on" reference.
RE: Jon C  
JonC : 3/25/2024 4:35 pm : link
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I’m perfectly content with Turner despite Burns and KT. Build on a strength and make it the focal point of the team.

That being said, is Turner a blue chip edge or just the best red chipper in a year without a blue chipper?

If so, I’d prefer Rome, who seems like a blue chipper with a high floor due to work ethic. I’m concerned about separation ability though.



I think the only thing keeping him from blue chip is size, he's 250-255 and you'd rather he be a bit heavier to defend the run. But, the length, explosion, power, bend, burs, and pedigree are all there. He's not a Myles Garrett, but there's not many of him.
JonC  
Tuckrule : 3/25/2024 5:28 pm : link
Good insight. I’m a huge fan of Rome. That’s who I want at 6. I do not want any Qb outside of Maye. I do like turner but with KT and Burns I can’t see it. Only other option imo is Bowers but it’s a little rich at 6 for a tight end even though he seems like a blue chip prospect. I’m all in on Rome if not him Nabers
Big Rome fan  
JonC : 3/25/2024 5:29 pm : link
been watching him for three seasons.
RE: I like him a lot...  
bw in dc : 3/25/2024 5:34 pm : link
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I have him behind some others like Ricky Pearsall and Malachi Corley. I would love so many of these good WRs in the 2nd/3rd round range. We need a DT though also so it will be tough to make happen.


I am with you on Corley, too. I am not sure I have seen a WR that physical since Steve Smith.
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Amtoft : 3/25/2024 5:37 pm : link
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I have him behind some others like Ricky Pearsall and Malachi Corley. I would love so many of these good WRs in the 2nd/3rd round range. We need a DT though also so it will be tough to make happen.



I am with you on Corley, too. I am not sure I have seen a WR that physical since Steve Smith.


That is a good comp. Would love Corley.
Corley is more mini Deebo than Steve smith  
Tuckrule : 3/25/2024 6:52 pm : link
Smith had the flexible lower half body control and hips. Deebo and Corley are more stiff in the lower half less agile
I’m a huge Dawgs fan  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 3/25/2024 7:58 pm : link
And loved watching the kid play. He he was always open on 3rd down and most of the defense’s underestimated his speed.

But we already have a few slot guys.
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