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Mara "Sick" To Lose Barkley

4xchamps : 3/25/2024 9:38 pm
Really nice story. We all know Mara loves Barkley and why shouldn't he, he's a class act. Mara also said earlier that if JS wants to draft a QB or not, he's not standing in the way, either way.

More proof that the common Mara narrative around here is a bunch of made up BS.
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"Nice story"?  
j_rud : 3/25/2024 9:44 pm : link
This is garbage

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“I hate trading guys right at the trade deadline because that almost signals you’re giving up on the season,’’ Mara said. “I was still hoping we would be able to sign him at some point. So I don’t regret that. It’s unfortunate we weren’t able to do it. From his standpoint, at least we allowed him to pick where he wanted to go, and I think we kind of owed him that, to tell you the truth instead of sending him somewhere where maybe he didn’t want to go.’’


You owed Barkley? What a dumb take.
Maybe he’s a class act  
GiantGrit : 3/25/2024 9:47 pm : link
But bypassing his best offer to stay in the NFC East with one of our biggest rivals means he should not get a warm reception when he comes back here.
So is John Mara racist?  
Chris684 : 3/25/2024 9:47 pm : link
Or is he an idiot who cares about these guys too much to win?

The latter is a thought that you see all over this board. The former is something insinuated by a few.

But which is it?
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robbieballs2003 : 3/25/2024 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16446128 j_rud said:
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This is garbage



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“I hate trading guys right at the trade deadline because that almost signals you’re giving up on the season,’’ Mara said. “I was still hoping we would be able to sign him at some point. So I don’t regret that. It’s unfortunate we weren’t able to do it. From his standpoint, at least we allowed him to pick where he wanted to go, and I think we kind of owed him that, to tell you the truth instead of sending him somewhere where maybe he didn’t want to go.’’



You owed Barkley? What a dumb take.


That quote reads very similar to the Leonard Williams trade. It sounds like they talked to the players and asked if they were okay going to X. Williams obviously said yes and Barkley probably didn't want to go anywhere during the season hence why he wasn't moved.
I sometime  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/25/2024 9:51 pm : link
get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.
To each their own…  
knowledgetimmons : 3/25/2024 9:52 pm : link
This proves Mara has a great heart. He also has Stockholm Syndrome. It’s an absurd quote that could only be said by a guy who cares too much, or doesn’t care at all. Or both.
To each their own…  
knowledgetimmons : 3/25/2024 9:52 pm : link
This proves Mara has a great heart. He also has Stockholm Syndrome. It’s an absurd quote that could only be said by a guy who cares too much, or doesn’t care at all. Or, somehow…both.
RE: I sometime  
Blue21 : 3/25/2024 9:59 pm : link
In comment 16446140 Eric from BBI said:
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get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.
There is some truth to this. I mean don't trade him because you want to be nice to him then he signs with the Eagles and you got nothing for it. Boy an extra pick would been good right now.
I think Mara LOVES the "Always a Giant"  
Ben in Tampa : 3/25/2024 10:00 pm : link
shtick a little too much
This place  
4xchamps : 3/25/2024 10:00 pm : link
is just insane...
I'd have more respect for Mara if he didn't take the high road...  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/25/2024 10:08 pm : link
...and did the whole "he's dead to me" thing and never invited him back to Metlife.

Mara made Barkley the 3rd richest RB in the NFL since 2018; he didn't owe Barkley shit.

And Barkley repaid Mara's respect by going to the Eagles, of all team. Fuck him.
Would have been okay with Barkley going anywhere  
TrueBlue'02 : 3/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
EXCEPT the Eagles. Not okay.
I'm glad  
Spider43 : 3/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
He's sick. I hope he gets even more 'sick', when we lose more of his useless chumps.
Mara can’t help himself  
LW_Giants : 3/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
He has to meddle, it’s who he is. They don’t owe Barkley anything
RE: This place  
j_rud : 3/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16446153 4xchamps said:
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is just insane...


It's insane you think that's a "nice story". It's the actual rot.
 
christian : 3/25/2024 10:18 pm : link
We need to print shirts, with the phrase Go Terps has popularized: "Mara wants to win, but doesn't try to win."
He also said “we need  
LW_Giants : 3/25/2024 10:20 pm : link
To put a better team around Daniel” and he believes that the Vikings game jones is the real player. Terrifying
RE: Maybe he’s a class act  
islander1 : 3/25/2024 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16446133 GiantGrit said:
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But bypassing his best offer to stay in the NFC East with one of our biggest rivals means he should not get a warm reception when he comes back here.


Exactly.
Barkley  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 3/25/2024 10:37 pm : link
Is a Philly boy and wanted to be there. I begrudgingly watched his intro to the eagles facility and he gushes over the team. It feels genuine, so completely lost all respect for him as a competitor.

More like a can’t beat them, join them vibe. F that guy
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RE: I sometime  
section125 : 3/25/2024 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16446140 Eric from BBI said:
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get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.


I sometimes wonder if people on BBI ever developed friends in their lives. Mara may just like people. Barkley was a team captain and well liked.

RE: I sometime  
Go Terps : 3/25/2024 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16446140 Eric from BBI said:
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get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.


You're close...

 
christian : 3/25/2024 10:51 pm : link
Everything some of us fear is very likely true.
RE:  
bw in dc : 3/25/2024 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16446128 j_rud said:
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This is garbage



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“I hate trading guys right at the trade deadline because that almost signals you’re giving up on the season,’’ Mara said. “I was still hoping we would be able to sign him at some point. So I don’t regret that. It’s unfortunate we weren’t able to do it. From his standpoint, at least we allowed him to pick where he wanted to go, and I think we kind of owed him that, to tell you the truth instead of sending him somewhere where maybe he didn’t want to go.’’



You owed Barkley? What a dumb take.


I know the romantics of the base drool over Mara's class, but the guy really is a dolt.



RE: RE:  
section125 : 3/25/2024 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16446181 bw in dc said:
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This is garbage



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“I hate trading guys right at the trade deadline because that almost signals you’re giving up on the season,’’ Mara said. “I was still hoping we would be able to sign him at some point. So I don’t regret that. It’s unfortunate we weren’t able to do it. From his standpoint, at least we allowed him to pick where he wanted to go, and I think we kind of owed him that, to tell you the truth instead of sending him somewhere where maybe he didn’t want to go.’’



You owed Barkley? What a dumb take.



I know the romantics of the base drool over Mara's class, but the guy really is a dolt.




Dolt? He may be a geek, but hardly a dolt. Hey could always be a Danny Boy...
RE: I sometime  
Optimus-NY : 3/25/2024 11:03 pm : link
In comment 16446140 Eric from BBI said:
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get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.


He's a strange one. Really strange one.
such a stupid thing for him to say out loud  
hassan : 3/25/2024 11:09 pm : link
and he is a major dolt.
I was sick  
bceagle05 : 3/25/2024 11:13 pm : link
when we drafted him.
What should make Mara sick is that DG passed on Allen  
GeofromNJ : 3/25/2024 11:24 pm : link
and drafted a running back and Mara sat there and watched this idiocy.
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BrettNYG10 : 3/26/2024 12:06 am : link
In comment 16446128 j_rud said:
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This is garbage



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“I hate trading guys right at the trade deadline because that almost signals you’re giving up on the season,’’ Mara said. “I was still hoping we would be able to sign him at some point. So I don’t regret that. It’s unfortunate we weren’t able to do it. From his standpoint, at least we allowed him to pick where he wanted to go, and I think we kind of owed him that, to tell you the truth instead of sending him somewhere where maybe he didn’t want to go.’’



You owed Barkley? What a dumb take.


This is horrifying.
Owed him?  
Go Terps : 3/26/2024 12:29 am : link
Hey John...



If the day ever comes when sentimentality and nostalgia factor into the salary cap the Giants are going to be tough to beat.
.  
Go Terps : 3/26/2024 12:33 am : link
I notice we didn't owe Evan Engram, Matt Peart, Wayne Gallman, Nick Gates, Tae Crowder, or any number of other Giants that have passed through the doors these awful recent years.

I am so so glad that Barkley is gone.
I don't mean to sound crass, but I'm just gonna say it.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/26/2024 12:44 am : link
John Mara sounds like a pussy here.

Jesus Christ, man.
What cracks me up....  
Maijay : 3/26/2024 5:21 am : link
is that Mara is the owner and if he wants to meddle he can. He is entitled to his opinion but has people to make those essential football decisions. Let those people do the selection of players and team building.
If he wears his heart on his sleeve for players it is something we have to accept as fans. Sometimes he gets in the way but it is his team and we can only voice our opinions and should pray Mara keeps the meddling to a minimum.
I can't believe they published this like a puff piece.  
j_rud : 3/26/2024 7:09 am : link
Dear God this team is lost if they thought saying this garbage in public was a good idea. What was the point? Some attempt to console the fans? It's mind-boggling stupidity.

They did an actual puff piece on the rot. That's where we're at this morning.
And for the sycophants  
j_rud : 3/26/2024 7:12 am : link
Yes, it's a big deal. The owner is admitting they could've traded him but felt he felt like they owed him something. And no, I refuse to believe Schoen didn't take calls. Like I said, this organizations head is so far up its ass that they did a puff piece on organizational rot.
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ajr2456 : 3/26/2024 7:36 am : link
In comment 16446177 section125 said:
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In comment 16446140 Eric from BBI said:


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get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.



I sometimes wonder if people on BBI ever developed friends in their lives. Mara may just like people. Barkley was a team captain and well liked.


Running a football team based who you like means you probably shouldn’t be running a football team
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/26/2024 7:36 am : link
This poster 4champs-who I've never even heard of until recently-gives off strong P-Dot vibes in being a shill for all things Giants.
RE: So is John Mara racist?  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/26/2024 7:45 am : link
In comment 16446134 Chris684 said:
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Or is he an idiot who cares about these guys too much to win?

The latter is a thought that you see all over this board. The former is something insinuated by a few.

But which is it?

Here's one thing that some people have suggested. And then here's another thought, that other people - far fewer of them - have suggested. Neither thing is in conflict with the other and both are speculation.

So which is it?

WHICH IS IT???!!
He is happy we allowed him to go to our rivals  
Essex : 3/26/2024 7:54 am : link
I can guarantee you Jeffery Lurie never said that in his life. He is a joke.
 
christian : 3/26/2024 8:00 am : link
That's the kind of stuff you say in private, not to reporters.

This organization is so lost. Hanlon feels like this signals to the fans that Mara lets Schoen do what he wants.

But it's completely lost on them that what fans really worry about is management having to maneuver an environment where ownership does and says shit like this.
I’m going to repeat what I believe and and have said often.  
Spider56 : 3/26/2024 8:22 am : link
The Giants are the Mara’s and the Mara’s are the Giants.
They are good people who want to win and they care about their employees.
They have been here before you and they will be here after you.
If you don’t like them, you need to find another team.
Deal with it.
The bad mouthing and paranoid conspiracy theories are Bull shit and childish.

The world has enough misguided hate in real everyday events, there’s no need to have it overflow into a supposedly favorite sports team
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 8:26 am : link
In comment 16446177 section125 said:
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In comment 16446140 Eric from BBI said:


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get the sense that Mara thinks he's running a soup kitchen.



I sometimes wonder if people on BBI ever developed friends in their lives. Mara may just like people. Barkley was a team captain and well liked.


The Giants are a business. He's the owner. It's not a friend-making operation. That's how real businesses go out of business.
It seems Barkley wasn’t guided by that same loyalty  
Essex : 3/26/2024 8:31 am : link
More than that, he went on Eagles social media and used his 5 year old daughter to talk about how the Giants are losers.

RE: It seems Barkley wasn’t guided by that same loyalty  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 8:32 am : link
In comment 16446290 Essex said:
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More than that, he went on Eagles social media and used his 5 year old daughter to talk about how the Giants are losers.


Yup.
He really does lay it all out there for the fans to see.  
j_rud : 3/26/2024 8:34 am : link
What a miscalculation. All I can imagine is that they thought the fans were upset that Barkley left and this little missive was an attempt to commiserate. And I'm sure some people will see it that way.

But it's a comedically bad reading of the room and they proceed to just lay bare the mindset this team is operating under. It's staggeringly stupid.

As a follow up I'd LOVE to see some other beats ask their sources in other front offices what they think of these comments. I bet the comments would be gold, and possibly lead to more BBI Family Artwork. We are a laughingstock.
RE: It seems Barkley wasn’t guided by that same loyalty  
j_rud : 3/26/2024 8:38 am : link
In comment 16446290 Essex said:
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More than that, he went on Eagles social media and used his 5 year old daughter to talk about how the Giants are losers.


That's the best part! Barkley has been doing this little passive aggressive thing, including the clip you mention, since the day he signed. And the owners response is to say

"Well, we felt like we owed him. At least we allowed him to pick his next team. Ya know. Cuz we owed him beyond making him wildly rich in the biggest media market in the world. I mean guy was here 6 years and we wo an whole playoff game. ON THE ROAD! I'm perfectly cool with this guy sticking his thumb in my eye on the way out.

Once a Giant!
Nobody is saying Mara doesn’t have  
LW_Giants : 3/26/2024 8:42 am : link
The right to speak his mind or meddle, but that doesn’t mean we have to be ok with it. The man is looking at everyone else trying to figure out why his franchise has been a dumpster fire for the better part of a decade, when the problem is evident for everyone else to see…..him

This just confirms to me my suspicion that no matter what he says, they won’t be taking a qb this year. He’s not ready emotionally to move on because apparently that’s what matters to him, emotion, not wins.
RE: I’m going to repeat what I believe and and have said often.  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 3/26/2024 8:44 am : link
In comment 16446278 Spider56 said:
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The Giants are the Mara’s and the Mara’s are the Giants.
They are good people who want to win and they care about their employees.
They have been here before you and they will be here after you.
If you don’t like them, you need to find another team.
Deal with it.
The bad mouthing and paranoid conspiracy theories are Bull shit and childish.

The world has enough misguided hate in real everyday events, there’s no need to have it overflow into a supposedly favorite sports team


What else do the Mara's owe their players or employees? They pay them top notch salaries and treat them and their families with respect; the organization is top notch in this regard and offers a high quality of life on and off the field. I think most here would agree.

The problem is that players will ultimately do what is in their best interest to get the "bag" but ownership maintains some sentimental feelings that clouds decision-making. Relationships are real but business is business.

John cant make tough decisions when it involves personnel. He is loyal to a fault which in of itself is not a bad quality; he cant make sound objective roster moves when it involves high profile players and it's abundantly obvious to the fanbase.

Knowing Mara is like this  
Chris684 : 3/26/2024 8:48 am : link
Barkley was not the guy to ever be sentimental about. His NYG career should be remembered for injury/disappointment more than anything else. He really had what amounted to 2 good seasons (1 excellent one) here, not good enough for a running back selected at #2.

Barkley also had this good guy/team leader reputation, but the way he's behaved since signing with Philly has me calling that into question.

Mara can be sick all he wants, as long as Barkley is gone, which thankfully he is.
RE: It seems Barkley wasn’t guided by that same loyalty  
Bavaro_the_Mafioso : 3/26/2024 8:51 am : link
In comment 16446290 Essex said:
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More than that, he went on Eagles social media and used his 5 year old daughter to talk about how the Giants are losers.


I posted the link above. Barkley shit all over the Giants on his media escapade with his new home team.
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