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Route 9 : 3/28/2024 12:08 pm
Good afternoon to Brett, Anakin and all of the rest ...

First of a two game trip "out that way" first to Denver and then Arizona.

Should be an interesting game. Let's keep it rolling into the playoffs!
Habs just beat them so….  
5BowlsSoon : 3/28/2024 12:29 pm : link
Eclectic them to come out with guns a blazing.
Tough spot for the Rangers  
ShockNRoll : 3/28/2024 12:54 pm : link
but just as I expect the Avs to come out on fire after losing to Montreal at home, I expect the Rangers will play a much better game than they did on Tuesday. No word on lineups for tonight yet, but I wouldn't expect any changes for the Rangers with the 3 D still banged up and Wennberg still presumably being out for personal reasons.

Just seeing that Georgiev was not on the ice for morning skate today, so it might be Annunen for the Avs.
Its not a must-win for the Rangers  
TEPLimey : 3/28/2024 1:13 pm : link
but this would go a long way to securing the President's trophy.

Their schedule after tonight's game does not contain a single team with a positive goal differential and only has 1 playoff team (Flyers at MSG). Of the other teams withing potential striking distance of NYR in the East...

- BOS (of their remaining 8 games) plays FLA once, CAR twice, and suddenly-hot Caps team twice in Washington. Plus the Rangers have two games in hand on them and are a point ahead.

- FLA has a slightly easier remaining 10 games playing the Leafs twice and the Bruins once in Boston. However, they are currently 3 point back from the Rangers.

- CAR (9 games remaining) plays the Caps and Detroit at home and have 2 against the Bruins. They are 3 points back and the Rangers have a game in hand.

The Rangers currently hold the first tiebreaker against Boston and Carolina (currently tied in regulation wins with Florida). They also hold the second tiebreaker against all three teams. Obviously if Florida gains 3 points on the Rangers over 10 games they will likely have the first tie-breaker over the Rangers.

The most likely outcome here is the Bruins are probably looking at the #4 seed at this point (they also lose the first tiebreaker to FLA/CAR) with the Panthers and Hurricanes battling it out for #2/3. The Rangers have the easiest road to the #1 seed on paper at this point so they just need to take care of business. A win tonight would make them the heavy favorite to be the overall #1 seed in the East (and the NHL) given the remaining schedule.

LGR
Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
ShockNRoll : 3/28/2024 1:17 pm : link
With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.
I might add that  
TEPLimey : 3/28/2024 1:23 pm : link
the difference between the #1 and #2 seed in the East is likely going to be playing PHI/WSH or TB and (in my humble opinion) the former is a mach easier task than the latter.

I think the Rangers can beat any of these teams in a 7 game series but I would rather not face Vasileskiy, Point, and Kucherov if the Rangers can avoid it as they are more likely to extend a series to the maximum number of games. Not to get ahead of ourselves but the Rangers cannot keep hoping to win the Cup if they are playing 7 game series and end up being gassed by the ECF.
RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
TEPLimey : 3/28/2024 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16448839 ShockNRoll said:
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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.

Read my mind and had quicker typing skills. Well done
RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
Ron Johnson : 3/28/2024 1:35 pm : link
In comment 16448839 ShockNRoll said:
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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.


Tampa is red-hot and they've got the experience. Rangers need to avoid them at all costs
RE: RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
ShockNRoll : 3/28/2024 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16448854 TEPLimey said:
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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.


Read my mind and had quicker typing skills. Well done


Virtual high five! Haha!

Lindgren skated in full today, so looks like that absolute monster will be back. Wennberg is also there after his wife had their baby. Trouba skated in a non-contact jersey and Gus still not back. All per Colin Stephenson on Twitter.
RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
Route 9 : 3/28/2024 1:38 pm : link
In comment 16448839 ShockNRoll said:
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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.


I remember having a heated argument with pjcas over this one year lol he said it didn't matter
RE: RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
TEPLimey : 3/28/2024 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16448871 Ron Johnson said:

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Tampa is red-hot and they've got the experience. Rangers need to avoid them at all costs

Notwithstanding my posts above, looking at their schedules there is a good chance that TB passes the Leafs to take the #3 spot in the Atlantic. Leafs have 2 games against Florida and 2 against TB. Tampa's schedule is otherwise pretty light and the only team with a positive GD (other than TOR themselves) is the Red Wings and the Leafs play them has well.
Nichuskin is out and Georgie wasn't at practice (illness maybe)  
BleedBlue46 : 3/28/2024 1:46 pm : link
Thats big
Tampa's no hotter than the Rangers are  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 1:55 pm : link
Both are 8-2 in their last ten.
Lindgren is one tough dude  
Rick in Dallas : 3/28/2024 2:12 pm : link
I thought he was done for the year
Read that it's  
Route 9 : 3/28/2024 2:22 pm : link
igor tonight
RE: RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
pjcas18 : 3/28/2024 2:30 pm : link
In comment 16448876 Route 9 said:
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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.



I remember having a heated argument with pjcas over this one year lol he said it didn't matter


lol, heated argument. I doubt it. It was about fatigue.

obviously if you can win in fewer games you want to (that is just common sense), my point was more these guys are professional athletes playing a hockey game once every other day (at most usually - occasionally they have back to backs but not often in the playoffs). I don't think fatigue is a problem. Sometimes facing adversity (game 7's, long OT's, stuff like that) early in the playoffs can even be a catalyst to galvanize the team. Sure they get banged up and that is never a good thing, but injuries happen in game 1 probably just as much as game 6.

Once the playoffs start these guys know they have at most 28 games left, and they need 16 wins. If those 16 wins take 28 games it's not going to impact them (physically) at all IMO. unless of course you're taking about just by playing another game you have a higher risk of someone being injured. which wasn't the point, the point we discussed was fatigue.
looks like Lindgren is indeed back  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 3:29 pm : link

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Wennberg is nuts to be back so soon  
ColHowPepper : 3/28/2024 6:19 pm : link

Man Swedes are beautiful Hedberg and Ulf
Hey, Kyle,  
ColHowPepper : 3/28/2024 6:32 pm : link
I hear ya, man, and you be right. And the hellszapoppin 3rd vs Philly had me alternately standing up and screaming G.O.A.L (woke up the wife) and kicking the proverbial (and imaginary) dog, fff. And it has been an exhilarating season, one of the best in recent memory (21-22 stands out...until Game 5 and LAK in Henrik's finest, man, Zucc)....
I just can't take lying down lazy, 1/3 effort suckitude, in any sport, when 90% are busting their butts...and I need to vocalize!!

Can you believe some self proclaimed NYR pundit on X is already featuring 'his' lines for '24-25, 2nd being Chytil centering for Othmann and Berard? Sees KK being dealt for and to sign Marchessault. Never mind that Othmann (now on 2nd line) has taken steps back, Chytil is this season's bummer writ large, but if retirement saves his QOL will be worth it.
RE: RE: RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
Route 9 : 3/28/2024 9:29 pm : link
In comment 16448996 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16448839 ShockNRoll said:


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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.



I remember having a heated argument with pjcas over this one year lol he said it didn't matter



lol, heated argument. I doubt it. It was about fatigue.

obviously if you can win in fewer games you want to (that is just common sense), my point was more these guys are professional athletes playing a hockey game once every other day (at most usually - occasionally they have back to backs but not often in the playoffs). I don't think fatigue is a problem. Sometimes facing adversity (game 7's, long OT's, stuff like that) early in the playoffs can even be a catalyst to galvanize the team. Sure they get banged up and that is never a good thing, but injuries happen in game 1 probably just as much as game 6.

Once the playoffs start these guys know they have at most 28 games left, and they need 16 wins. If those 16 wins take 28 games it's not going to impact them (physically) at all IMO. unless of course you're taking about just by playing another game you have a higher risk of someone being injured. which wasn't the point, the point we discussed was fatigue.


Were you earnest about that box seat offer vs Montreal? Or were you messing with me?
Georgiev is still such a bitch  
Anakim : 3/28/2024 9:47 pm : link
He's much better as a starter than he ever was a backup, but he's such an unlikable player.
Nice first period  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 9:47 pm : link
No score but they looked good defensively. They were all over MacKinnon.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
pjcas18 : 3/28/2024 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16449615 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16448876 Route 9 said:


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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.



I remember having a heated argument with pjcas over this one year lol he said it didn't matter



lol, heated argument. I doubt it. It was about fatigue.

obviously if you can win in fewer games you want to (that is just common sense), my point was more these guys are professional athletes playing a hockey game once every other day (at most usually - occasionally they have back to backs but not often in the playoffs). I don't think fatigue is a problem. Sometimes facing adversity (game 7's, long OT's, stuff like that) early in the playoffs can even be a catalyst to galvanize the team. Sure they get banged up and that is never a good thing, but injuries happen in game 1 probably just as much as game 6.

Once the playoffs start these guys know they have at most 28 games left, and they need 16 wins. If those 16 wins take 28 games it's not going to impact them (physically) at all IMO. unless of course you're taking about just by playing another game you have a higher risk of someone being injured. which wasn't the point, the point we discussed was fatigue.



Were you earnest about that box seat offer vs Montreal? Or were you messing with me?


I'm going to try and get my company box. I'll see if I can swing it. You will all need to lie and say you are potential customers. I'll see tomorrow if it's available.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rangers magic number for the Metro is 16  
Anakim : 3/28/2024 9:50 pm : link
In comment 16449649 pjcas18 said:
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With Tampa looming in round 1, top seed in the East is obviously the more advantageous position. I mentioned in the other thread, I think they can beat Tampa, but if the Rangers are seriously going to contend for the Cup, they need to have a quick series or two in there. Tampa is not going to be a quick series, whereas I think they can put Washington, Philly, Islanders, Detroit down in 5 or less.



I remember having a heated argument with pjcas over this one year lol he said it didn't matter



lol, heated argument. I doubt it. It was about fatigue.

obviously if you can win in fewer games you want to (that is just common sense), my point was more these guys are professional athletes playing a hockey game once every other day (at most usually - occasionally they have back to backs but not often in the playoffs). I don't think fatigue is a problem. Sometimes facing adversity (game 7's, long OT's, stuff like that) early in the playoffs can even be a catalyst to galvanize the team. Sure they get banged up and that is never a good thing, but injuries happen in game 1 probably just as much as game 6.

Once the playoffs start these guys know they have at most 28 games left, and they need 16 wins. If those 16 wins take 28 games it's not going to impact them (physically) at all IMO. unless of course you're taking about just by playing another game you have a higher risk of someone being injured. which wasn't the point, the point we discussed was fatigue.



Were you earnest about that box seat offer vs Montreal? Or were you messing with me?



I'm going to try and get my company box. I'll see if I can swing it. You will all need to lie and say you are potential customers. I'll see tomorrow if it's available.


You're the best!
Battle of 2 GKs  
ColHowPepper : 3/28/2024 10:37 pm : link
on top of their games, and a bit of a grudge match between 2 former teammates who didn't care for one another
Miller. With a boneheaded  
ColHowPepper : 3/28/2024 10:48 pm : link
attempt at a check let's his man go free hepasses to Mittelstet(?) in the slot
If they could figure out how to get the below the goalline Kaapo Kaako  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/28/2024 11:08 pm : link
everywhere else, then they’d really have something.

1-1
Krieder with the PP tap in.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/28/2024 11:20 pm : link
Comeback Kids lead 2-1
......  
Route 9 : 3/28/2024 11:24 pm : link
What a great waste of time that was
......  
Route 9 : 3/28/2024 11:37 pm : link
Fox left the ice. Un fucking believable!
Another shootout  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 11:53 pm : link
Igor managed to hang on and get them a point
Panarin has to be the best shootout guy I’ve ever seen  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 11:55 pm : link
Lethal.

Igor save.
Zibby fumbles the puck away  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 11:56 pm : link
Igor save on Rantanen. One more!
Great game  
Mike from SI : 3/28/2024 11:56 pm : link
and 2 points.
Another hard-earned 2 points!  
Anakim : 3/28/2024 11:56 pm : link
Damn son!
Trocheck scores to win!!  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 11:57 pm : link
They manage to steal another win. Igor was on top of his game tonight late:
Rangers overcoming a horrific OT  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/28/2024 11:57 pm : link
to get two more points.
Vincenzo!!!  
Stufftherun : 3/28/2024 11:58 pm : link
Helluva road game by the banged up boys!
Now we all say a little prayer that Fox is OK  
Greg from LI : 3/28/2024 11:59 pm : link
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RE: Now we all say a little prayer that Fox is OK  
Stufftherun : 3/28/2024 11:59 pm : link
In comment 16449752 Greg from LI said:
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Amen!
I have to wonder is Kreider playing hurt?  
Greg from LI : 3/29/2024 12:04 am : link
Because he’s doing absolutely nothing out there. Has barely scored this month
Terrific Win  
Rick in Dallas : 3/29/2024 12:04 am : link
Igor was tremendous tonight.
I’m so frustrated with Kreider’s play along the boards.
Agree about Fox. We cannot afford for him to be out. He is so valuable in every facet of the game.
And yes I know he had a goal tonight  
Greg from LI : 3/29/2024 12:06 am : link
But even strength, he doesn’t even seem to try to do anything. Just kind of drifts around the ice.
Postgame they said Fox was on the bench during the shootout  
Greg from LI : 3/29/2024 12:14 am : link
So hopefully that means he’s all right
Igor's pass to Panarin  
Route 9 : 3/29/2024 2:43 am : link
Was great
Can Kakko please get more ice time?  
BrettNYG10 : 3/29/2024 2:53 am : link
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RE: Panarin has to be the best shootout guy I’ve ever seen  
pjcas18 : 3/29/2024 8:47 am : link
In comment 16449745 Greg from LI said:
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Lethal.

Igor save.


Panarin is 6th best all time (with those who have at least 10 attempts). of course the database is limited since the shootout hasn't been around forever. The only active player ahead of him is Trevor Zegras, who is filthy. 11 for 17 (65%), Panarin is 58%.
Props to Lindgren who played over 21 minutes  
Rick in Dallas : 3/29/2024 9:48 am : link
I’m sure he is probably not 100% recovered from injury.
He is such a warrior.
Also been very impressed with Ruhwedel who played a very good game. Very noticeable on PK.

I hope you guys will give us a status report on Fox.
I don’t see any of that stuff down here in North Texas.

BTW, Stars are really playing well down here. Big win over Canucks.
They are a true SC contender in the West.
RE: And yes I know he had a goal tonight  
ColHowPepper : 3/29/2024 9:52 am : link
Great win! But lol now you got me going.
In comment 16449757 Greg from LI said:
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...I have to wonder is Kreider playing hurt?....But even strength, he doesn’t even seem to try to do anything. Just kind of drifts around the ice.

Have literally been saying this for months, citing his (lack of) work along the boards, as if he's allergic, and his Ice Capades routine in his own end. But going after CK was like the 3rd rail here, until recently.

Greg, not buying the playing hurt, because when he does his basket hanging thing and has a chance for an odd man rush with Zib he's shot out of a cannon. As ineffective and loose with the puck (big and small) as he's been 5 on 5, you think Lavvy wouldn't sit him a game or two if he were hurt? Hell, he did bench CK for quite a few shifts, it was either vs BOS or FLA, put Bread on LW with Zib. This was after the atrocious giveaway at the BL boards that sprung a clean breakaway that changed the game. Could it be ribs? He doesn't take enough contact to have incurred an upper body.
RE: Panarin has to be the best shootout guy I’ve ever seen  
ColHowPepper : 3/29/2024 9:56 am : link
In comment 16449843 pjcas18 said:
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Lethal.
Igor save.///////
Panarin is 6th best all time (with those who have at least 10 attempts). of course the database is limited since the shootout hasn't been around forever. The only active player ahead of him is Trevor Zegras, who is filthy. 11 for 17 (65%), Panarin is 58%.

Crazy thing is--Vally cited a stat--that in non-shootout breakaways this season Panarin is 0 for 11, as in Zero. Go figure
Rick  
ColHowPepper : 3/29/2024 9:59 am : link
yeah Ruhwedel is almost not noticeable, a good thing, he's clean. Good on the warrior Lindgren.

Stars have been a thorn in NYR side for years, so strong and fast, year after year.
RE: RE: Panarin has to be the best shootout guy I’ve ever seen  
ShockNRoll : 3/29/2024 11:36 am : link
In comment 16449928 ColHowPepper said:
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Lethal.
Igor save.///////
Panarin is 6th best all time (with those who have at least 10 attempts). of course the database is limited since the shootout hasn't been around forever. The only active player ahead of him is Trevor Zegras, who is filthy. 11 for 17 (65%), Panarin is 58%.


Crazy thing is--Vally cited a stat--that in non-shootout breakaways this season Panarin is 0 for 11, as in Zero. Go figure


The team as a whole is the worst breakaway team in the NHL this year by a pretty substantial margin. I wish I could find the stat, I know Valiquette has tweeted it out but I can't seem to find it, but they are so far below the 31st place team it's insane.
^ is insane  
ColHowPepper : 3/29/2024 4:18 pm : link
just with Panarin and Trocheck alone. Maybe it's mindset of goalies vs shooters in SO vs run of play. Maybe Bread is somehow more relaxed in a SO but don't ask me why that would be.

Thought Joe's comment on Trocheck's SO winner was interesting: both SO goals came to Georgiev's glove side, with both shooters handling the puck to their right/shooting side with a slight deke or move low and then went top shelf. I wonder if Benoït had some input there? (:
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