2024 BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

Football Giants for Daniel Jones

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We filled out two cards, one of which will be rendered moot by Arizona’s pick at #4.

Booo!!!! Boooo!!!
You choice sucked. You're just as bad as Dave Gettleman!!!

In comment 16452455 Semipro Lineman said:

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Booo!!!! Boooo!!! You choice sucked. You're just as bad as Dave Gettleman!!!

Nice! You’re at a 3, I really need you at a 10! On this take, I need you to really let me have it. Your motivation is driven by your wife has left you, your daughter thinks you’re a joke and your favorite chinchilla has died. The Giants are all you have left, annnd….ACTION!

hadn't seen Mad Plaid in a while, hope all is well.

In comment 16452467 bc4life said:

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hadn't seen Mad Plaid in a while, hope all is well.

Boo

Spice things up a bit

I love this.

Unsure if he is West Coast... emails have been sent... Hopefully he will be back on soon and we can get things rolling

wasn't expecting it to kick off that fast, my bad.

Commanders take Daniels...while all qb's (this year and always) have questions about delivering on-time passes in the NFL game, the floor here is still amazing with his athleticism.

Slight frame but can hopefully bulk up a bit, and very savvy (most of the time) at avoiding hits.

Fantastic deep ball, no character concerns I know of, interviewed well in clips I saw.

All qb's are a risk...this is one I'd be happy to take. *I'd also support the Giants moving up for him...upside is that high.

Now the fun begins!

the selections are predicable. I am fairly certain McCarthy will be there if I want him at 6. Sadly, I am torn. I was prepared to go WR at 6 because initially, I didn't think JJM was a top 5 pick. Then after the combine and private workouts, suddenly, I no longer have a clue. Plus, many online predict in reality the Vikings are likely going to trade up for a shot at him or one of the other top QB prospects. If that happens, then it is unlikely a QB is available at 6 regardless.

So what am I supposed to do today? Go with the unlikely scenario and select McCarthy, or by pass him for a WR? This situation stinks.

What would you do?

Obviously no trades makes "chaulk" more likely.

Since AZ and LAC don't need QBs, JJ will drop to the Giants.

I don't think this is how it plays out (i.e. NE, AZ and / or ?LAC will make a trade).

Personally I think the Chargers will go Alt and be glad they did but in this I suspect its WR-WR coming up.

So QB4 or WR3.

Go with your gut. You'll get roasted no matter what lol.

as I really dont trust Murray, but had to take the top WR in this draft for them

In comment 16452644 Andy in Halifax said:

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Personally I think the Chargers will go Alt and be glad they did but in this I suspect its WR-WR coming up. So QB4 or WR3. Go with your gut. You'll get roasted no matter what lol.

Very true. Damned if I do or don't. LOL

We will see what SD does, and I will go and the ROASTING will begin. Like last year when I selected Brodrick Jones. However, considering how last year went, I bet many of us fans would have liked having a stud OLineman on the roster to step in when Evans faltered.

In comment 16452651 MadPlaid said:

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In comment 16452644 Andy in Halifax said: Quote: Personally I think the Chargers will go Alt and be glad they did but in this I suspect its WR-WR coming up. So QB4 or WR3. Go with your gut. You'll get roasted no matter what lol. Very true. Damned if I do or don't. LOL We will see what SD does, and I will go and the ROASTING will begin. Like last year when I selected Brodrick Jones. However, considering how last year went, I bet many of us fans would have liked having a stud OLineman on the roster to step in when Evans faltered.

That is why I am glad I do not have the Giants in the BBI Mock Draft

You are just yella! ;-)

Well, BBB just made my choice for me. Pick is coming up.

If there are no takers or the value isn't there, I'd just take Odunze.

Brian Branch - excellent starter already
Anton Harrison - excellent starter already
Sidy Sow - good starter showed lots of potential to be excellent
Charbonnet - good rotational player showed lots of potential to be excellent RB
Trey Palmer - good backup that started to earn a lot of time late in year (nice TD in playoffs)
Desjuan Johnson - good backup that started to earn time late in year for Rams.
Broderic Martin - meh season, could be a miss but Detroit says they think highly of him.
Dylan Horton - missed most of season with cancer, probably a miss

Dawn of a new era.

I have no idea if he'll be good or not but I think based on how 1-5 went, this was a logical move.

Hopefully just lurking... Emails have been sent

I very much approve.

But with BBB's selection, I couldn't justify ignoring QB in the first round. Although, Anakim's choice of Odunze was very tempting too. I don't have confidence in Jones any more. Plus his injury history is extremely troubling. I planned to target a QB in the 2nd if I picked Nabers in the 1st. The Giants QB situation is just to uncertain to not select someone high in this draft. I feel strongly Nabers is going to be great, he was really the only one I would have ignored McCarthy for. Other than Harrison who I think is highly unlikely to make it to 6.

Okay, let me know how stoopid I am.

In comment 16452684 MadPlaid said:

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But with BBB's selection, I couldn't justify ignoring QB in the first round. Although, Anakim's choice of Odunze was very tempting too. I don't have confidence in Jones any more. Plus his injury history is extremely troubling. I planned to target a QB in the 2nd if I picked Nabers in the 1st. The Giants QB situation is just to uncertain to not select someone high in this draft. I feel strongly Nabers is going to be great, he was really the only one I would have ignored McCarthy for. Other than Harrison who I think is highly unlikely to make it to 6. Okay, let me know how stoopid I am.

Good pick. It needed to be QB.

for the feedback. Not very risky, but probably the right choice under these circumstances. I highly doubt the real draft is going to fall this way. I think someone is going to trade up into the top 5, and the top 4 QBs will be gone. Leaving an awesome WR for the Giants to select. I don't see them taking Alt as tempting as he may be.

The real draft can't get here soon enough.

Cheers

here, but just my opinion. I'd have to feel really confident to bind myself to a QB for 3+years, and I don't with JJM

If the alternatives were equally uncertain I guess I would, but Rome seems special. No shade though, just my thought

Yes, it really had to be. Although, Odunze was very tempting. I think he's going to be awesome.

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here, but just my opinion. I'd have to feel really confident to bind myself to a QB for 3+years, and I don't with JJM If the alternatives were equally uncertain I guess I would, but Rome seems special. No shade though, just my thought

I hear you. Rome would have fit in nicely with the Giants. But, I felt the risk on missing out on a QB at 47 was too high to take a chance on Odunze here.

If you think he's right there with Marv and Nabers then, sure, you can consider him for #6. But if you think there's even a small drop then it probably makes it hard to justify considering how deep the draft is at WR.

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In comment 16452684 MadPlaid said: Quote: But with BBB's selection, I couldn't justify ignoring QB in the first round. Although, Anakim's choice of Odunze was very tempting too. I don't have confidence in Jones any more. Plus his injury history is extremely troubling. I planned to target a QB in the 2nd if I picked Nabers in the 1st. The Giants QB situation is just to uncertain to not select someone high in this draft. I feel strongly Nabers is going to be great, he was really the only one I would have ignored McCarthy for. Other than Harrison who I think is highly unlikely to make it to 6. Okay, let me know how stoopid I am. Good pick. It needed to be QB.

+1

This is a QB first round for the Giants. Drafting a wide receiver just to have Jones or Lock throwing to him would be foolish.

I agree a QB was probably the safest pick there especially considering the current condition the Giants find themselves in. However, I feel I have to mention, that I really doubt the real draft is going to fall this way. Someone is going to move up to get a QB, and if the Giants are not the one making the trade, they are going to miss out. And the funny thing is, I'm hoping they do not do it. Its going to be too costly in my opinion. I'd rather take a shot at getting a QB prospect in the 2nd round or next year than pay to move up this year. And, by sitting tight, they can select a real blue chip WR who potentially could be something really special for a very long time.

This is going to be an exciting draft when it really happens.

You are on the clock...let's keep this going!

In comment 16452651 MadPlaid said:

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In comment 16452644 Andy in Halifax said: Quote: Personally I think the Chargers will go Alt and be glad they did but in this I suspect its WR-WR coming up. So QB4 or WR3. Go with your gut. You'll get roasted no matter what lol. Very true. Damned if I do or don't. LOL We will see what SD does, and I will go and the ROASTING will begin. Like last year when I selected Brodrick Jones. However, considering how last year went, I bet many of us fans would have liked having a stud OLineman on the roster to step in when Evans faltered.

It's funny because I think Schoen is dammed if he sticks with DJ and dammed if he trades up and fails. The only situation that plays out well for him is swinging and hitting a homerun on a franchise QB.

I loved your pick btw, MadPlaid.

In comment 16452714 MadPlaid said:

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I agree a QB was probably the safest pick there especially considering the current condition the Giants find themselves in. However, I feel I have to mention, that I really doubt the real draft is going to fall this way. Someone is going to move up to get a QB, and if the Giants are not the one making the trade, they are going to miss out. And the funny thing is, I'm hoping they do not do it. Its going to be too costly in my opinion. I'd rather take a shot at getting a QB prospect in the 2nd round or next year than pay to move up this year. And, by sitting tight, they can select a real blue chip WR who potentially could be something really special for a very long time. This is going to be an exciting draft when it really happens.

I agree, we will end up having to trade 2025 2nd and 3rd (ish) to the Cardinals if we like the QB there.

In comment 16452718 allstarjim said:

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You are on the clock...let's keep this going!

Yeah, I was worried that we might stall here given his last visit to BBI was 3/20... He should have received emails last Thursday, early this am and again when he went on deck / on the clock...

Hopefully he sees the emails and checks in shortly

Yeah, Shoen is in a very precarious place in this draft. I'm hoping for the best possible outcomes in any deal he makes. I'm glad I am just pretending to be the Giants' GM. I wouldn't want to be in reality.

dang typos

Daniel Jones part 2

In comment 16452464 MadPlaid said:

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In comment 16452455 Semipro Lineman said: Quote: Booo!!!! Boooo!!! You choice sucked. You're just as bad as Dave Gettleman!!! Nice! You’re at a 3, I really need you at a 10! On this take, I need you to really let me have it. Your motivation is driven by your wife has left you, your daughter thinks you’re a joke and your favorite chinchilla has died. The Giants are all you have left, annnd….ACTION!

*Takes a deep breath*

JJ MacSucky, What the Hell is Wrong with You, you Freaking MORAON!!! This man is Daniel Jones Personalized with the same PROBLEMS! He's NOT A WINNER!! He's NOT A DAWG!!! He was just carried to a CBF Championship the same way Steve Irving carried his son to feed the alligator!!
This is the dumbest thing I seen on this board, I have seen the original 04 invasion of the brain dead. BRING BACK GETTLEMAN!!!!!!!!!

I thought of adding a bit about throwing something but figured the picture would work better.

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In comment 16452793 Semipro Lineman said:

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I thought of adding a bit about throwing something but figured the picture would work better.

CUT, PRINT!!! Chills, absolute chills. That's your Oscar moment. I feel good about our chances to bring home a statuette.

LOL, that was awesome. I almost believed it. Ha

gm announce the pick of Alt to the Bears?

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In comment 16452824 SirYesSir said:

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gm announce the pick of Alt to the Bears?

Trade hahahaha

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In comment 16452688 Sean said: +1 This is a QB first round for the Giants. Drafting a wide receiver just to have Jones or Lock throwing to him would be foolish.

I mean, you draft for the future, not for this season.

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gm announce the pick of Alt to the Bears?

Hopefully we can carry the momentum

is where the BBI draft always breaks down. No way Minny passes on QB here no matter what the owner will claim as the reason. This is how the Raiders got Justin Herbert because they would rather say look I drafted a good player than take a chance on a QB who may bust. However all the teams that passed on Justin Herbert are the ones that look dumb. Just like this pick of Dallas Turner.

to move up for a QB. But, right now, they have the 11th selection and they use it to draft the ultra athletic and dynamic edge rusher, Dallas Turner. He has been our target as the Vikings need to improve their fron t seven. Turner brings speed and an explosive first step and the ability to get after the opposing QB.

I feel like vikes would go Bo nix or penix there..

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is where the BBI draft always breaks down. No way Minny passes on QB here no matter what the owner will claim as the reason. This is how the Raiders got Justin Herbert because they would rather say look I drafted a good player than take a chance on a QB who may bust. However all the teams that passed on Justin Herbert are the ones that look dumb. Just like this pick of Dallas Turner.

I disagree with the top 4 QB's off the board especially with the Vikings also having a pick at 23. If they don't think both Penix and Nix will be gone by then wait until that pick to select a QB.

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I feel like vikes would go Bo nix or penix there..

They would... no way they pass on a QB. Really I expect Denver to take a QB here also and there is only one that super fits what Sean Payton likes to do. He really is the perfect fit.

the team on the clock? It showed he was just on not too long ago and next two teams are here and ready to pick

In comment 16452909 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16452896 Amtoft said: Quote: is where the BBI draft always breaks down. No way Minny passes on QB here no matter what the owner will claim as the reason. This is how the Raiders got Justin Herbert because they would rather say look I drafted a good player than take a chance on a QB who may bust. However all the teams that passed on Justin Herbert are the ones that look dumb. Just like this pick of Dallas Turner. I disagree with the top 4 QB's off the board especially with the Vikings also having a pick at 23. If they don't think both Penix and Nix will be gone by then wait until that pick to select a QB.

No way either should make it that far and when they don't what is Minny left with... Rattler? hahaha You can't wait on your QB.

In comment 16452912 Mr. Nickels said:

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the team on the clock? It showed he was just on not too long ago and next two teams are here and ready to pick

No we don't do that at this point. For the next week there is no clock. After we have a clock, Matt takes care of all of the e-mail reminders so you don't have to notify the team picking after you.

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In comment 16452912 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: the team on the clock? It showed he was just on not too long ago and next two teams are here and ready to pick No we don't do that at this point. For the next week there is no clock. After we have a clock, Matt takes care of all of the e-mail reminders so you don't have to notify the team picking after you.

We do get emails... Matt checked in with me when we were a few picks out.

In comment 16452914 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16452909 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 16452896 Amtoft said: Quote: is where the BBI draft always breaks down. No way Minny passes on QB here no matter what the owner will claim as the reason. This is how the Raiders got Justin Herbert because they would rather say look I drafted a good player than take a chance on a QB who may bust. However all the teams that passed on Justin Herbert are the ones that look dumb. Just like this pick of Dallas Turner. I disagree with the top 4 QB's off the board especially with the Vikings also having a pick at 23. If they don't think both Penix and Nix will be gone by then wait until that pick to select a QB. No way either should make it that far and when they don't what is Minny left with... Rattler? hahaha You can't wait on your QB.

Nix did not look like anything other than a Day 3 gamble at Auburn and finally looked good when he was the most experienced player and playing in an offense that operated mainly within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage with WR's open in space. That does not easily translate to the NFL. He looked awkward when having to throw the deep ball or when trying to max out velocity. Penix was productive, but that injury history is scary and he looks like he may require a specific setup around him. If you are a team like the Giants can you risk taking him in Round 1 with the crap that you have protecting his blind side? I also do not see him being effective for a team who runs an offense built on timing.

Time to be a Jet fan after I broke my TV.

In comment 16452928 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16452914 Amtoft said: Quote: In comment 16452909 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 16452896 Amtoft said: Quote: is where the BBI draft always breaks down. No way Minny passes on QB here no matter what the owner will claim as the reason. This is how the Raiders got Justin Herbert because they would rather say look I drafted a good player than take a chance on a QB who may bust. However all the teams that passed on Justin Herbert are the ones that look dumb. Just like this pick of Dallas Turner. I disagree with the top 4 QB's off the board especially with the Vikings also having a pick at 23. If they don't think both Penix and Nix will be gone by then wait until that pick to select a QB. No way either should make it that far and when they don't what is Minny left with... Rattler? hahaha You can't wait on your QB. Nix did not look like anything other than a Day 3 gamble at Auburn and finally looked good when he was the most experienced player and playing in an offense that operated mainly within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage with WR's open in space. That does not easily translate to the NFL. He looked awkward when having to throw the deep ball or when trying to max out velocity. Penix was productive, but that injury history is scary and he looks like he may require a specific setup around him. If you are a team like the Giants can you risk taking him in Round 1 with the crap that you have protecting his blind side? I also do not see him being effective for a team who runs an offense built on timing.

Minny is not the Giants. They have pieces in place what they don't have is a QB. If 4 QBs go before pick 6 I expect the Giants to take MHj/Nabers. Then we will have to punt until next year. Minny can't do that though. They are a better team and have players in place to succeed now. By right Nix would never make it past Sean Payton and I can tell you neither will make it by the Raiders. I am going QB because that is the right move even though technically I already drafted Justin Herbert, but should I pass on a WR because I also drafted Justin Jefferson and AJ Brown?

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Time to be a Jet fan after I broke my TV.

Bye Felicia!

Nice work! :)

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Nice work! :)

Whaaaattt... nooooo I wouldn't that... hahahaha

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Time to be a Jet fan after I broke my TV.

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Time to be a Jet fan after I broke my TV.

Come to the dark side, my drafting is Supreme:)

You guys talk like Nix is a can't miss prospect. I disagree.

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You guys talk like Nix is a can't miss prospect. I disagree.

No such thing as a can't miss prospect. Dallas Turner isn't a can't miss prospect. Nix turns into a star and it won't matter how good Dallas Turner is... you blew the pick because on your team you don't have a QB.

In comment 16452985 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16452983 johnnyb said: Quote: You guys talk like Nix is a can't miss prospect. I disagree. No such thing as a can't miss prospect. Dallas Turner isn't a can't miss prospect. Nix turns into a star and it won't matter how good Dallas Turner is... you blew the pick because on your team you don't have a QB.

Here is the thing... It benefits me. The Raiders need a QB and there is really only 6 good QBs in this draft. I was like well crap who is the best non QB player that fits my need... I was about to take the top CB, but now I get a QB that is a better need for me. Plenty of CBs later, but not QBs.

In comment 16452983 johnnyb said:

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You guys talk like Nix is a can't miss prospect. I disagree.

Also don't take anything personal. We are all just voicing our opinions. You are allowed to take anyone you want... Even if it is the wrong choice hahaha.

Williams and Odunze

He's almost perfect for Sean Payton's type of offense where the QB is like a QB who makes quick releases.

In comment 16452906 Mr. Nickels said:

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I feel like vikes would go Bo nix or penix there..

Agreed.

is the perfect Sean Payton QB and we were prepared to take Michael Penix, but we are happy to take Bo Nix. He was the best QB when pressured last year, his adjusted completion percentage is an insane 85%+. He has more starts, he has over come adversity and Chris Simms has him as QB3. All I need to know. Welcome to the Raiders Bo Nix!

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Williams and Odunze

Indeed.

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He's almost perfect for Sean Payton's type of offense where the QB is like a QB who makes quick releases.

I dont know, I felt like Penix is in the mix for the Broncos....and I am not so sure Payton doesnt like him.

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I can see this happening, but I can also see QBs slipping.

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The Giants have gotten an enormous break with this draft, just like they did in 2018. All they have to do is be smart and take advantage.

to get home then I will make my selection

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to get home then I will make my selection

Drive safe. We can wait if it takes longer.

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to get home then I will make my selection

Drive safely...

;)

It might be right to take them there, but i don't think either goes nearly that high. Time will tell.

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It might be right to take them there, but i don't think either goes nearly that high. Time will tell.

You don't think Denver takes a QB? I think it is almost a lock they do. Have you seen their QB room? If 4 QBs are gone that leaves Nix and Penix.

The Raiders are also rolling out O'Connell, Minshew, and Anthony Brown. If they pass on a QB what is their prospects of succeeding? You get a Penix who I think is more likely that is a perfect fit for how they run their offense.

I think BBI wants a QB to fall to round two or late round 1 so they can take MHj/Nabers and then get a QB later, but it most likely won't happen.

is such a weird situation. Like the fact so many QB hungry teams pushes some really good players down and Bowers is a steal at 15.

Powers-Johnson was the 2023 Rimington Trophy winner for best center and the Seahawks already have the 2022 Rimington winner in Olu Oluwatimi. But the 'Hawks had one of the worst pass blocking offensive lines in football last season, they lost their starting guard to FA and JPJ has experience at other positions on the line (and DT). I think he's the best IOL in the draft and stays pretty local.

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is such a weird situation. Like the fact so many QB hungry teams pushes some really good players down and Bowers is a steal at 15.

Great pick and great fit for him. I thought about it but Saints really need a LT.

on Verse vs the OT.

Troy Fautanu... I know some people are thinking he needs to move to OG, but I don't think so. I think he can play on the outside.

I had been targeting Fautanu from the start of the draft, but never expected Verse to still be there.

I think Fautanu is very underrated... He is the best athlete of any OL in this draft... Reminds me a lot of Penei Sewell, who I took for CIN as well

Whoever drafts him will have a LT with excellent feet, balance and anchor... And a guy that can kick out and make it into the 2nd and 3rd level as a run blocker... You can design plays specifically for this type of athlete on the OL... Very unique

Doubt he makes it to 18 in the real draft. Hell of a player

from what I've seen

There were other, perhaps more pressing needs, but I felt that Terrion Arnold represented too much value at pick 19 to pass up. The Rams need to get better on defense in general, and you're not going to simply plug and play any DT to replace Donald, you have to get the best players you can on defense. Arnold could be the nickel right away or provide valuable insurance for Darious Williams or Tre'Davious White on the outside. Eventually replacing White, who signed a 2-year deal that can easily be moved off of after 2024.

I copied Anak's post and forgot to remove "Bears"
So obviously the 7th pick was for Titans:

Sorry about that

He can legit play all 5 positions on the OL. Miami lost some talent in FA from the interior of their OL. Barton can go a long way towards fixing that.

1. Chicago (Anakim) (from Car) – Caleb Williams, QB, USC
2. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU
3. New England (Sean) – Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
4. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State
5. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
6. New York Giants (MadPlaid) – J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan
7. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) – Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
8. Atlanta (BigBlue7) – Laiatu Latu, EDGE/LB, UCLA
9. Chicago (Anakim) – Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
10. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) – Taliese Fuaga, OT/IOL, Oregon State
11. Minnesota (Johnnyb) – Dallas Turner, EDGE/LB, Alabama
12. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) – Michael Penix, QB, Washington
13. Las Vegas (Amtoft) – Bo Nix, QB, Oregon
14. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) – Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State
15. Indianapolis (Go Terps) – Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
16. Seattle (sjnyfan) – Jackson Powers-Johnson, IOL, Oregon
17. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) – Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
18. Cincinnati (Matt G) – Troy Fautanu, OT/IOL, Washington
19. LA Rams (Allstarjim) – Terrion Arnold, CB/S, Alabama
20. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) – Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU
21. Miami (Optimus-NY) – Graham Barton, IOL, Duke
22. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) - On the clock
23. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Hou, Cle)
24. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
25. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
26. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
27. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou)
28. Buffalo (Uncledave)
29. Detroit (superspynyg)
30. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
31. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
32. Kansas City (English Alaister)

Round 2
33. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
34. New England (Sean)
35. Arizona (DCPollaro)
36. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
37. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
38. Tennessee (TommytheElephant)
39. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG)
40. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Chi)
41. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from NYJ)
42. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min)
43. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
44. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
45. New Orleans (from Den)
46. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
47. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Sea)
48. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax)
49. Cincinnati (Matt G)
50. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from NO)
51. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
52. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
53. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
54. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS)
55. Miami (Optimus-NY)
56. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
57. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
58. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
59. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
60. Buffalo (Uncledave)
61. Detroit (superspynyg)
62. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
63. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
64. Kansas City (English Alaister)

In some recent picks lost a few guys I thought would fall to Ravens

And I have GB's board for #25

In comment 16453056 Optimus-NY said:

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He's almost perfect for Sean Payton's type of offense where the QB is like a QB who makes quick releases.

Oops! What a mongorific thing to say: "Where the QB is like a PG (not a QB, duh!) who makes quick decisions and releases" is what I meant to say. Come to think if it, it sounds like something else too, lol.

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to start the morning

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to start the morning

Good thing the night shift was active last night.

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In comment 16453617 uncledave said: Quote: to start the morning Good thing the night shift was active last night.

those were some impressive time stamps

We have some active GMs coming up

Got pulled into an unplanned meeting.

The Eagles would have loved to draft another player from Georgia, but barring that they go with the top DB on their board.

In comment 16453648 Chris in Philly said:

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Got pulled into an unplanned meeting. The Eagles would have loved to draft another player from Georgia, but barring that they go with the top DB on their board.

Even though he did not go to Georgia that was a nice pick here. He was BPA on my board when I looked this morning to make a short list of targets for the Ravens. I would not be shocked if a team like Las Vegas took him if they don't trade up.

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In comment 16453648 Chris in Philly said: Quote: Got pulled into an unplanned meeting. The Eagles would have loved to draft another player from Georgia, but barring that they go with the top DB on their board. Even though he did not go to Georgia that was a nice pick here. He was BPA on my board when I looked this morning to make a short list of targets for the Ravens. I would not be shocked if a team like Las Vegas took him if they don't trade up.

As Chris simms said, if he did go to a school like Georgia he’s a top 10 pick.

In comment 16453648 Chris in Philly said:

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Got pulled into an unplanned meeting. The Eagles would have loved to draft another player from Georgia, but barring that they go with the top DB on their board.

I was going to take Quinyon at pick 13. He is the best CB in the draft and a steal. That would suck very bad if that happened. Chris always having the best drafts continues

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Yep, unfortunately, we are having a string of GMs signing off right when their pick comes up :/

Hopefully, we get back on track... Yesterday was salvaged by the evening flurry

Especially given it's a pretty big need for them

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Remember. There are people on the West Coast as well as living internationally. I myself was living overseas for many years and posted at time many of you would consider cuckoo.

LOL. I recall. Good times.

We will just hang back and wait...

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I think he will likely go as first CB, upside as a ballhawk is too good. I also think the Raiders will take a CB if Penix isn't there.

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An unexpected client call got in the way of me making a timely pick.

The Vikings need to sure up their defensive backfield and Wiggins provides them with a CB with length and speed as well as the ability to play outside corner.

Ravens have a few greater needs, but he was tempting if he fell to 30. Speaking of the 30th pick, I have about 4-5 guys remaining in my top tier of remaining players so hopefully not all of them get selected between picks 24 and 29.

That being said, in real life I think the Ravens would look to trade out as none of the players who are in my top remaining tier would I give a definite first round grade to (I do not consider first round grades being the 32 names if I just ranked everybody from 1 to infinity). The Ravens have a surprising number of needs and could benefit from more picks in the first 4-5 rounds.

BPA on Jerrah’s draft board who provides pass rush from tackle position
There were several OT’s under consideration
I can tell you down here in Dallas they hope Jackson Powers-Johnson is the pick

but Minnesota has a desparate need for an upgrade in their secondary.

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BPA on Jerrah’s draft board who provides pass rush from tackle position There were several OT’s under consideration I can tell you down here in Dallas they hope Jackson Powers-Johnson is the pick

If Dallas went DT with this pick I would have taken Newton instead.

"Oh no, our NFC east rivals picked names that I am familiar with. These guys are going to kick our behinds for years to come" etc. posts now that the Eagles and Cowboys have selected.

Jay has not been on the forum for a few days. Hopefully he saw Matt's e-mail reminder.

And again a few minutes ago

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Maybe he got caught up...

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Chop Robinson. Solid value this late at a premium position. Heavily considered WR here but that position is way deeper in this draft compared to DE. Rousseau and Epenesa are both free agents in 2025.

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Chop Robinson. Solid value this late at a premium position. Heavily considered WR here but that position is way deeper in this draft compared to DE. Rousseau and Epenesa are both free agents in 2025.

Like the pick, but I think I like it more that it was made by the Bills Mafia. Ha!

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In comment 16453992 uncledave said: Quote: Chop Robinson. Solid value this late at a premium position. Heavily considered WR here but that position is way deeper in this draft compared to DE. Rousseau and Epenesa are both free agents in 2025. Like the pick, but I think I like it more that it was made by the Bills Mafia. Ha!

Big Joe Todaro runs our draft room

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LOL. I recall. Good times.

Hangover Part Two was a real thing...that's all I have to say, lol.

There's one I can't talk about (lol), but a safe one I think is from the side of the road driving back from Dubai to Abu Dhabi a few years back (I forgot which one though).

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CB off the board!

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There's one I can't talk about (lol), but a safe one I think is from the side of the road driving back from Dubai to Abu Dhabi a few years back (I forgot which one though).

That is pretty strange. For me, a few years ago, when I was the Packers' GM, I made a selection from a McDonalds parking lot off the highway on the NJ side of the Delaware Water Gap. Hey, it was my turn, and I didn't want to keep the other mongos waiting. I care therefore I pick.

Tyler Guyton to the Baltimore Ravens. With Ronnie Stanley's health (or lack thereof) and the loss of most of the rest of the OL this definitely fills a big need. Was really thankful that he fell to #30 as I have seen him in the 20-25 range in most Mock Drafts.

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In comment 16454003 Optimus-NY said: Quote: There's one I can't talk about (lol), but a safe one I think is from the side of the road driving back from Dubai to Abu Dhabi a few years back (I forgot which one though). That is pretty strange. For me, a few years ago, when I was the Packers' GM, I made a selection from a McDonalds parking lot off the highway on the NJ side of the Delaware Water Gap. Hey, it was my turn, and I didn't want to keep the other mongos waiting. I care therefore I pick.

I literally did this afternoon when making the pick for Green Bay's new GM... Pulled over in a McD parking lot and posted the prepared post while running errands

No surprise that only four WRs were taken in the first thirty picks. After Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, there's a ton of depth with nobody that stands out from the rest as a likely #1 target. Thomas is an absolute specimen, and he's a great addition for Pittsburgh, especially because they already have a #1 guy in Pickens. Now we're into the volume phase at WR: could easily be ten taken in the next forty picks as teams shop for a solid #2 in the second round.

And I'm sure far worse if I could recollect

No way! Ha! That's hilarious.

When I made that selection in the parking lot, my wife was traveling with me at the time. She rolled her eyes at me so bad, I thought she might sprain something. You boys and your crazy mock drafts is what I think was going through her head.

To the nearest McDonald's parking lot or a Nunnery

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Perfect place to do them! lol. You look busy and engaged!

The details shall remain classified for an unspecified period of time...

It involved ping pong balls...

That’s a heck of a tie breaker

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That’s a heck of a tie breaker

It was quite a show!!

My two choices. Hoping to get my remaining choice.

First choice

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Hahaha now that’s a scene. I haven’t been involved long enough to have a cool story yet. One of these days though.

Anyone trading up to them, I'm sure they'd cherish 2025 picks

They have 7 in the top 104 this yr

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Anyone trading up to them, I'm sure they'd cherish 2025 picks They have 7 in the top 104 this yr

Exactly. I can see Zona trading and trading assets for players or picks next year. This draft to them is more about quality than it is quantity.

They should be able to add the offensive weapons they need in this draft, but they are probably going to be in the QB market next year as well

Looks like they were last active 10+ minutes ago but didn’t post anything

As he hasn.t responded to emails either

Mims last that long? People need to do some OL research! hahaha

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Mims last that long? People need to do some OL research! hahaha

Physically imposing, but so was Mekhi Bechton, Ereck Flowers, etc. Extremely inexperienced. I am not sure where you can play him if he flops at OT.

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Excluding myself as well as the early picks I would say

Best - Philly with Quinyon Mitchell. I think he could be the top CB in this draft and it would not surprise me if he goes 10 picks higher on draft day.

Worst - Las Vegas with Bo Nix. I get you don’t want to be standing at the altar with QB7, but this was way too early and not really a scheme fit. If you look at what made Nix successful at Oregon it was keeping everything within 10 yards and getting it to guys in space. If you told me he was going to a team like Miami with Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill I could see it. But with Vegas that limits what Davante Adams can do.

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No surprise that only four WRs were taken in the first thirty picks. After Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze, there's a ton of depth with nobody that stands out from the rest as a likely #1 target. Thomas is an absolute specimen, and he's a great addition for Pittsburgh, especially because they already have a #1 guy in Pickens. Now we're into the volume phase at WR: could easily be ten taken in the next forty picks as teams shop for a solid #2 in the second round.

Off to a good start

… after foot surgery knocked him out of the Combine and the Illinois Pro Day. He’ll try to restore his first-round patina with a private workout this month. Jones Fracture surgery has a very high success rate, and by all accounts Newton is on track for a full recovery. The new Charger staff is thrilled to land Jer’Zahn at #37. He starred against Michigan in 2022, when the Illini took Harbaugh’s undefeated Wolverines down to the final nine seconds.

Assuming his foot checks out, the only significant knock on Newton is sub-optimal length. He’ll never be Chris Jones (another 37th pick); he’s built more like Ed Oliver, but he should be a better pro. In Newton and Malik Nabers, the Chargers start the draft with solid alignment of value and need - possibly the top prospects at both positions.

IRL, the Chargers will be listening to trade offers at #5, and might wind up using this pick on a receiver. For the purposes of a no-trades mock, they are happy to land Nabers at #5 and watch the run of second-tier WRs between picks 32 and 35.

1. Chicago (Anakim) (from Car) – Caleb Williams, QB, USC
2. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU
3. New England (Sean) – Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
4. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State
5. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
6. New York Giants (MadPlaid) – J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan
7. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) – Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
8. Atlanta (BigBlue7) – Laiatu Latu, EDGE/LB, UCLA
9. Chicago (Anakim) – Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
10. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) – Taliese Fuaga, OT/IOL, Oregon State
11. Minnesota (Johnnyb) – Dallas Turner, EDGE/LB, Alabama
12. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) – Michael Penix, QB, Washington
13. Las Vegas (Amtoft) – Bo Nix, QB, Oregon
14. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) – Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State
15. Indianapolis (Go Terps) – Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
16. Seattle (sjnyfan) – Jackson Powers-Johnson, IOL, Oregon
17. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) – Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
18. Cincinnati (Matt G) – Troy Fautanu, OT/IOL, Washington
19. LA Rams (Allstarjim) – Terrion Arnold, CB/S, Alabama
20. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) – Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU
21. Miami (Optimus-NY) – Graham Barton, IOL, Duke
22. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) – Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo
23. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Hou, Cle) – Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
24. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) – Byron Murphy, IDL, Texas
25. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) – Cooper DeJean, CB/S, Iowa
26. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) – JC Latham, OT, Alabama
27. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou) – Darius Robinson, EDGE/IDL, Missouri
28. Buffalo (Uncledave) – Chop Robinson, EDGE/LB, Penn State
29. Detroit (superspynyg) – Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB/RS, Alabama
30. Baltimore (Mike in NY) – Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma
31. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) – Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
32. Kansas City (English Alaister) – Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas

Round 2
33. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) – Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
34. New England (Sean) – Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
35. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Xavier Worthy, WR/RS, Texas
36. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
37. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Jer'Zhan Newton, IDL, Illinois
38. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) - On the clock
39. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG)
40. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Chi)
41. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from NYJ)
42. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min)
43. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
44. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
45. New Orleans (from Den)
46. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
47. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Sea)
48. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax)
49. Cincinnati (Matt G)
50. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from NO)
51. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
52. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
53. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
54. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS)
55. Miami (Optimus-NY)
56. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
57. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
58. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
59. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
60. Buffalo (Uncledave)
61. Detroit (superspynyg)
62. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
63. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
64. Kansas City (English Alaister)

Less than a half hour a go.

Come on, dude. Help us move forward.

Hopefully he shows up and make the pick soon

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Less than a half hour a go. Come on, dude. Help us move forward.

He was on like 5 minutes ago so perhaps pulling up the spreadsheet to see who remains. At least that is my hope.

Seeing how this draft fell I like the Brian Burns trade more. You are not getting anywhere close to a pass rusher of that caliber at 39 and there really isn't someone who stands out to me here that I can say is ranked on a higher tier than what will be around at 47.

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Come on, dude. Help us move forward.

Probably still too embarrassed by the Chicago Bears Tennessee Titans snafu to make another pick.

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MadPlaid said: Quote: Come on, dude. Help us move forward. Probably still too embarrassed by the Chicago Bears Tennessee Titans snafu to make another pick.

LOL!! That's must be it. Shameful faux pas. Ha!

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In comment 16454638 MadPlaid said: Quote: Less than a half hour a go. Come on, dude. Help us move forward. He was on like 5 minutes ago so perhaps pulling up the spreadsheet to see who remains. At least that is my hope. Seeing how this draft fell I like the Brian Burns trade more. You are not getting anywhere close to a pass rusher of that caliber at 39 and there really isn't someone who stands out to me here that I can say is ranked on a higher tier than what will be around at 47.

Good point. I agree. What I find interesting is how uniformly people around the league and the media have been saying the Giants ripped the Panthers off with that deal. Hoping Burns makes them look foolish for years to come.

In comment [urlLOL!! That's must be it. Shameful faux pas. Ha! [/quote]Grammar police take me away. "That's must be it?" Oh the irony of ripping on someone for their typo shenanigans.

Best - Getting an OT prospect like Alt at pick #7 is pretty darned good. I actually think in other years he could justify going #1 or #2. TE in round 1 is perhaps not supreme value most of the time but Bowers at 15 strikes me as darned good value for the player he is.

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In comment 16454689 Big Blue Blogger said: Quote: MadPlaid said: Quote: Come on, dude. Help us move forward. Probably still too embarrassed by the Chicago Bears Tennessee Titans snafu to make another pick. LOL!! That's must be it. Shameful faux pas. Ha!

"Da heights of sheeeuh mongodom I tell yaz. Back aftuh diss."

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Best - Getting an OT prospect like Alt at pick #7 is pretty darned good. I actually think in other years he could justify going #1 or #2. TE in round 1 is perhaps not supreme value most of the time but Bowers at 15 strikes me as darned good value for the player he is.

"Hey Sexy Rexy, I haven't my pennix in yeahuhs. When's da last time you sawr yoah's?"

wish they would have announced the Diggs trade before we got going here...yikes

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That is unfortunate.

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In fairness, the first was only an hour and 58 minutes.

but have a few meetings this afternoon.

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Why not send Matt your two-player board? You can even send him the formatted text of your post, if you want particular wording and a certain image. That's what I did last night for the 37th pick, so Matt was able to post the Newton selection while I was sleeping.

Not singling you out, FMiC. I think everyone should give Matt a board when they're on deck or close to it, which he can use if we don't make a pick in 10-15 minutes.

if I'm out of pocket. I really was just trying to give a nudge to Tommy:)

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pick I like it.

I no longer check the email on file.

I gave Matt G my email and number so I promise to get right on it in the future

to sit and wait only to pull the trigger on a Center/Guard! We must protect the Smurf!

After adding Daniels, we want to give him every chance to succeed moving forward.

Adding Kingsley Suamataia is a great add for the O Line - he looks like he has more upside than most players you'd get in round two. Had to be addressed so took the top guy on my board

McConkey was a little more unexpected...we need corner and even an edge, and they were my first thought...but wasn't expecting him still here. McLaurin is a stud but Dotson and Brown aren't exactly scaring anyone, and Samuel has gone, so we could use an upgrade here as well. Also fits with providing Daniels the tools to win

On opposing QBs! I went with the slightly smaller (relatively) DT to pair with Anderson to chase the QB around.
I considered WR before the trade today. Not needed now. Atleast not this early

sending energy to MadPlaid - we’re all counting on you!

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sending energy to MadPlaid - we’re all counting on you!

There are 4 guys at the top of my board if I am the Giants

The nice thing about the Giants right now is there are so many options to choose to fix. We are a mess. There are a few nice defenders I like that are still available. Or should I look at offense? We will see. Edge of seat time.

Looks like there's value at CB, LB, OL, maybe even EDGE and TE. After four more picks, that list might narrow to CB and LB, but it's hard to predict.

So there's a lot for MadPlaid to choose from. I'm not sure the selection was dramatically better at 39. The big difference would have been getting two of these prospects instead of one.

I like your throwing a dart analogy. Very apt. What a sad state of affairs.

Kind of glad my turn is coming up close to the end of the day at work. Give me time to review my options more closely before I make a selection. Last year, in a later round, I chose someone already taken and had to rush the choice. Don't want a repeat of that.

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So there's a lot for MadPlaid to choose from. I'm not sure the selection was dramatically better at 39. The big difference would have been getting two of these prospects instead of one.

But we got Brian Burns who likely is better than any of them.

been in meetings all day. Give me one second to see who is available.

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Was a guy who really grew on me... I get the concern over arm length and being a bit stiff, but it's hard not to like him... Guy just plays with his hair on fire and is a great athlete... He may not always appear on the stat sheet but he messes up a lot of plays... He actually reminds me of a more athletic version of former Giant Christian Peter.

Big, agile, and long. Really I think Raiders could be looking at Penix who I think will be there for them. They need a RT, but with Penix you would need a really good pass blocking RT. Paul gets by with his length a little to much at time, but he has tremendous upside and is a good fit here.

I also considered WR and CB as options, but just couldn't pass up on the monster Paul.

Pass rusher with the highest ceiling and most upside. Saints had a dreadful pass rush with 34 sacks last year. They signed Chase Young to a 1 year deal and add Braswell with their 2nd pick. Saints were very close to picking Verse first but the question marks on the line and Fashunu was a must draft. The way it worked out the Saints would not have been able to get a great OT here in Round 2 but Braswell has the ability to be as good of a pass rusher as any in this draft class.

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I was deciding between Sweat and Braswell. Great pick. Especially with Bijan in the division I was tempted to do it.

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Looks like there's value at CB, LB, OL, maybe even EDGE and TE. After four more picks, that list might narrow to CB and LB, but it's hard to predict.

How do you leave WR off that list as well as DT! Really I would be looking at one of the top DTs left and there are some really good ones. Same with WR and whatever I missed on with those two I would get the other in the 3rd round.

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I am not a Sweat guy. He is going to eat himself out of the league. He is a two down player at best. I am just glad MadPlaid can't draft him hahaha. If you want a Texas DT we want Murphy who is a stud. Of course like this draft he will probably be gone.

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In comment 16455299 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: In comment 16455293 Go Terps said: Quote: . I was deciding between Sweat and Braswell. Great pick. Especially with Bijan in the division I was tempted to do it. I am not a Sweat guy. He is going to eat himself out of the league. He is a two down player at best. I am just glad MadPlaid can't draft him hahaha. If you want a Texas DT we want Murphy who is a stud. Of course like this draft he will probably be gone.

Yes that was part of my consideration too.

Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants

"Like, groovy MAAAN, GROOOOVYYY!"



Source: Aaron Rodgers

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I do... I would go WR here and I won't say which one until he is picked, but we need a WR and there are a couple that are really good.

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In comment 16455311 Mike in NY said: Quote: Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants I do... I would go WR here and I won't say which one until he is picked, but we need a WR and there are a couple that are really good.

I do this because I have like 6 DTs and I would assume one would make it to round 3.

long day. Go Giants... Don't mess this up Madplaid hahaha

I love that Lassiter pick a few selections ago. But I like a lot of the picks, good early part of the draft. I get the sense the depth drops off not long from here? Maybe day 3.

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In comment 16455311 Mike in NY said: Quote: Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants I do... I would go WR here and I won't say which one until he is picked, but we need a WR and there are a couple that are really good.

I will say that one of the 4 on my list is a WR. Don't want to divulge my whole list because I could still look at all 4 names if any are on the board when I pick next for the Ravens.

The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways.

Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?

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The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways. Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?

There is one.

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The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways. Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?

I only see 2-3 more before the drop off happens again. This draft is deep in WRs because a lot of them have gone, but it only lasts until most like the beginning of the 3rd. That is why I would go WR now and not wait. DTs are a little deeper, but most of the draft is super strong until the top of the 4th when talent isn't nearly as good.

Worth a look here for the Gmen. Adisa Isaac as well.

but think i'd go with 1 of the michigan guys. jenkins, sainristril, or roman wilson.

melton, dorlus, jalynn polk all guys id consider as well. corely and wilson too.

may go with one of the DL bc i think that's the position that probably drops off quickest. should still be good WR in round 3. corners you can get lucky in mid rounds as well.

dealing with a family issue at home, it had to take prescendence. I'm a little distracted, so I'm not sure I made the best choice. There were a few DBs I really liked at this point. Chose to go Safety. Nubin sounds like the kind of ball hawking playmaker the Giants sorely need. Seriously considered Rakestraw and Melton. Also, liked the TE Sanders.

Please let me know what you think and who you may have gone with instead of Nubin.

Cheers

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dealing with a family issue at home, it had to take prescendence. I'm a little distracted, so I'm not sure I made the best choice. There were a few DBs I really liked at this point. Chose to go Safety. Nubin sounds like the kind of ball hawking playmaker the Giants sorely need. Seriously considered Rakestraw and Melton. Also, liked the TE Sanders. Please let me know what you think and who you may have gone with instead of Nubin. Cheers

I am sorry you are dealing with a family issue. Never apologize for that as family always first.

I won't be to hard on your for picking a Safety when really all the safeties are basically the same throughout the 2nd-5th round. You know Dabs wants a play maker at WR and we needing a starting DT, but hey an average safety is good too.

Although he was the one I thought you were least likely to go with

to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks.

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Pearsall is my top WR also along with one other who I love. That is where I would have went. Ricky is so under rated, runs great routes, has great speed, great hands, good moves. Really a big fan.

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Although he was the one I thought you were least likely to go with

Nubin was also on my short list.

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In comment 16455520 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks. Pearsall is my top WR also along with one other who I love. That is where I would have went. Ricky is so under rated, runs great routes, has great speed, great hands, good moves. Really a big fan.

Plus if you go QB in Round 1 come one man... Let's give him a weapon to help out on. Now MadPlaid is going to grab a WR next round and it won't be as good and you bypass one of the really good DTs because they won't make it to the 4th.

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In comment 16455524 Amtoft said: Quote: In comment 16455520 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks. Pearsall is my top WR also along with one other who I love. That is where I would have went. Ricky is so under rated, runs great routes, has great speed, great hands, good moves. Really a big fan. Plus if you go QB in Round 1 come one man... Let's give him a weapon to help out on. Now MadPlaid is going to grab a WR next round and it won't be as good and you bypass one of the really good DTs because they won't make it to the 4th.

JJ McCarthy and Ricky Pearsall would be an ideal first 2 rounds for me.

goes that high. not saying it's a bad pick just a hard one to evaluate. any stud DB at #47 is a worthwhile pick, im not sure id trust any DB who just ran a 4.62 with only a 30 inch vert to be a stud though. McKinney was a legitimate first rounder on tape who tested better than that and it still knocked him down a round. safety as a position is tricky because some are paid like premium position players (McKinney included) and then there are bunch who have sat on the market or taken small 1 year deals. So teams dont value the position consistently.

if it were my pick id have probably taken 1 of the premium position michigan guys because we saw them make big plays in the games at the highest competition level (and the 3 highest on board right now tested as dynamic 90%+ athletes as well). i think those are 3 very high floor but also solid ceiling players who fit.

For me personally.

CB a bigger need and higher value position. Talent is similar.

Not a terrible pick though at all... especially given new DC's love of 3 safety looks.

But Nubin is a nice addition to secondary.
Good job.

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In comment 16455578 Rick in Dallas said:

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But Nubin is a nice addition to secondary. Good job.

Corley is my other WR... I love Corley also who reminds me of Hakeem Nicks.

Nubin is so slow and I know people say he had the same speed of McKinney, but I think that is more the exception rather than the rule. Like someone said X had tape that was insane and his time dropped him.

I appreciate it all. The complimentary and the critical. It is all welcome. I wish I wasn't so distracted at the end. I like my pick, but I think I could have made a better choice.

Corley and Pearsall were on my radar, and I don't think I spent enough time evaluating them in comparison to the DBs. If I did a better job of reviewing and comparing, I think I would have gone with one of them. I did take a look at RB too, Brooks to be specific. But once I saw he was coming off a recent ACL injury, I dropped him from consideration.

I hadn't thought about the deemphasis on safeties lately in the NFL. So, I think I missed on that evaluation which makes me second guess about Nubin in the end. One of the CBs or WRs would have probably been the wiser choice. Oh well. Too late.

Second guessing must be a top problem for all sports managers. Hopefully they all have good therapists. Ha

Cheers

In comment 16455597 MadPlaid said:

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I appreciate it all. The complimentary and the critical. It is all welcome. I wish I wasn't so distracted at the end. I like my pick, but I think I could have made a better choice. Corley and Pearsall were on my radar, and I don't think I spent enough time evaluating them in comparison to the DBs. If I did a better job of reviewing and comparing, I think I would have gone with one of them. I did take a look at RB too, Brooks to be specific. But once I saw he was coming off a recent ACL injury, I dropped him from consideration. I hadn't thought about the deemphasis on safeties lately in the NFL. So, I think I missed on that evaluation which makes me second guess about Nubin in the end. One of the CBs or WRs would have probably been the wiser choice. Oh well. Too late. Second guessing must be a top problem for all sports managers. Hopefully they all have good therapists. Ha Cheers

Best part will be when Nubin is a stud and you can come back and say i told ya so : )

In comment 16455597 MadPlaid said:

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I appreciate it all. The complimentary and the critical. It is all welcome. I wish I wasn't so distracted at the end. I like my pick, but I think I could have made a better choice. Corley and Pearsall were on my radar, and I don't think I spent enough time evaluating them in comparison to the DBs. If I did a better job of reviewing and comparing, I think I would have gone with one of them. I did take a look at RB too, Brooks to be specific. But once I saw he was coming off a recent ACL injury, I dropped him from consideration. I hadn't thought about the deemphasis on safeties lately in the NFL. So, I think I missed on that evaluation which makes me second guess about Nubin in the end. One of the CBs or WRs would have probably been the wiser choice. Oh well. Too late. Second guessing must be a top problem for all sports managers. Hopefully they all have good therapists. Ha Cheers

As I said, Nubin was on the short list so not like you took a S nobody was expecting here. I will post when the other 3 names are selected just because I will likely go BPA for the Ravens and don’t want to reveal the names or I think you have my email. Hopefully the hiccups of today can right themselves or maybe it is just wishful thinking so I can get Pick 62 in tomorrow and likely won’t be on the clock until next week.

LOL, So long as he is a stud on the Giants. The Giants haven’t had a truly studdly safety in some time. X came close.

In comment 16455352 Big Blue Blogger said:

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The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways. Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?

I'd have selected Morgan ahead of Nubin as well. Not a knock on Nubin though. It's more about positional value. At the end of the day though, the NYG need all the help that they can get.

bob mcginn had him top 55 a few weeks ago and eyeballing that list i dont see any of the other suggestions in that group. i tend to hone in on the guys who check the combine box which is why i think he fell off for me, but thinking about byard/hooker i could very much see him being a nyg day 2 pick in real life, and i dont think there is much difference between 47 and 70.

bowen had byard (pick 66 in 2016 before got there) and hooker (picked 116 in 2019 when he was OLB coach) who both had a lot of similar qualities, though they were better testers.

if safety werent in play relatively early i think they'd have signed a veteran starter by now (though i think the same is true of WR, DL, CB). here's the mcginn blurb with comments from a few different nfl scouts on him:

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Tyler Nubin, Minnesota (6-1, 199): Started for 3 ½ years, registering a school-record 13 picks. “He’s bigger, a more sturdy looking guy, and he will f--king hit you,” one scout said. “Like, he brings it. Good overall athlete. More of a build-speed type. He’ll be a good starting player.” Didn’t run or test at the combine. “They play him (in the box),” a second scout said. “But if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space. He is a special-teams demon. If you just watch him play in their defense you don’t see him go backwards very often. Nubin has great ball skills, too, if you look at his stats. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Four-time All-Big Ten academic selection. “I got him in the fourth or fifth,” said a third scout. “Linebacker mentality. Has some big hits. Best in the box. Has tight hips and needs to gather to change direction. Doesn’t have a closing burst. Questionable one-on-one coverage ability. Strong, aggressive player. Good square tackler. Struggles in man (coverage). I didn’t see it. I’d like to play against him.” Arms were 32, hands were 9.

33. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) – Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
34. New England (Sean) – Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
35. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Xavier Worthy, WR/RS, Texas
36. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
37. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Jer'Zhan Newton, IDL, Illinois
38. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) – Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
39. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG) – Zach Frazier, IOL, West Virginia
40. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Chi) – Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
41. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from NYJ) – Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
42. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min) – Braden Fiske, IDL, Florida State
43. Atlanta (BigBlue7) – Kamari Lassiter, CB/S, Georgia
44. Las Vegas (Amtoft) – Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
45. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (from Den) – Chris Braswell, EDGE/LB, Alabama
46. Indianapolis (Go Terps) – T'Vondre Sweat, IDL, Texas
47. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Sea) – Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
48. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) - On the clock
49. Cincinnati (Matt G)
50. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from NO)
51. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
52. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
53. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
54. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS)
55. Miami (Optimus-NY)
56. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
57. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
58. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
59. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
60. Buffalo (Uncledave)
61. Detroit (superspynyg)
62. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
63. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
64. Kansas City (English Alaister)

Maybe you think its a bit early but his 'tape' is fantastic, he's feisty as hell and his testing was elite at the combine. I think he's a player.

Sorry for the delay in picking.

Andy nabbed my guy

In comment 16455794 Andy in Halifax said:

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Maybe you think its a bit early but his 'tape' is fantastic, he's feisty as hell and his testing was elite at the combine. I think he's a player. Sorry for the delay in picking.

Not early at all given his measurables and physical style... Had a great Senior Bowl... A great Combine... Can play inside or out... Don't be surprised if he sneaks into RD1

Is shared by others. I came real close to selecting Melton. I read the same things Andy and Matt did. I think he would be great on the Giants. Ultimately, I felt Nubin filled a bigger need.

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In comment 16455794 Andy in Halifax said: Quote: Maybe you think its a bit early but his 'tape' is fantastic, he's feisty as hell and his testing was elite at the combine. I think he's a player. Sorry for the delay in picking. Not early at all given his measurables and physical style... Had a great Senior Bowl... A great Combine... Can play inside or out... Don't be surprised if he sneaks into RD1

He went in the first round of the Ourlads mock last night

He has a lot of what teams are looking for... Mitchell and Arnold are a notch above... But Melton could easily be #3 CB on several teams' boards

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He has a lot of what teams are looking for... Mitchell and Arnold are a notch above... But Melton could easily be #3 CB on several teams' boards

I hit the wrong reply I meant Nubin

to restore NYG to greatness.

I will be making my selection shortly, give me a few minutes...but it is upcoming.

I was seriously considering him at 30

Ultimately, I just felt that Pearsall was too much of a value-add to what they already have in the receiver room. High ceiling guy, big yards/reception totals, had a spectacular combine, and one thing I found interesting, is he scored 3 TDs on just 11 touches the last two seasons as a ball-carrier...175 yards rushing on those 11 carries. He's dangerous with the ball in his hands. I think Pearsall fits the Rams very well athletically with the kind of receivers they like, and I'm hoping one of the guys I passed on makes it to my next pick, because WR was not a position I thought I'd be taking in the 2nd round. Ultimately, couldn't pass up this value.

Max Melton with the Raiders. In the end I needed a RT more and it was between Paul and Morgan. Morgan’s arm scared me a little as he may need to move into OG but he is really good!

Is amazing. He is so under rated. He looks like Cooper Kupp in the way he runs routes and his moves afterwards. I really like him

I've got my eye on someone...

Corley doesn't go to the Eagles

Good pick Chris.

Bralen Trice is a high-character, high-effort edge who can play the run and rush the passer. A superb addition to the pass rush rotation.

After two defense picks, we went back on offense to take a weapon - Malachi Corley. He's a big guy that can catch, he can run it out of the backfield, he can break tackles, and he can knock you over. Kellen Moore will dream up a lot of ways to use this guy, and he can easily take over for the ineffective Parris Campbell...

Every time! I love Corley. I think he is Hakeem Nicks. What a great fit in Philly who is loaded with weapons. Mitchell the top CB in the first and then Corley in the second. Have to hope Philly takes more Georgia players than something like this happening

Was also on my short list for 47. One player remains.

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Currently have 3 guys between my top two remaining tiers. If one is still around at 62 I should hopefully pick quickly

Corley or Pearsall there, I don't think S is a top priority. Pinnock is solid and Belton will get his shot this year.

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In comment 16454332 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: ? Excluding myself as well as the early picks I would say Best - Philly with Quinyon Mitchell. I think he could be the top CB in this draft and it would not surprise me if he goes 10 picks higher on draft day. Worst - Las Vegas with Bo Nix. I get you don’t want to be standing at the altar with QB7, but this was way too early and not really a scheme fit. If you look at what made Nix successful at Oregon it was keeping everything within 10 yards and getting it to guys in space. If you told me he was going to a team like Miami with Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill I could see it. But with Vegas that limits what Davante Adams can do.

Oh man I totally missed this. I would say maybe you haven't seen Bo Nix enough. Nix has a strong arm and has made a ton of great down the field throws. He has some where he is rolling out, on one foot, across the field type throws. He made a lot of short throws not because he can't throw deep, but because that is the offense he played in. This isn't to early for Nix I would be completely shocked if he doesn't go pick 12 to Denver or Minny at all if they can't trade up. Ideally I think Penix is a better fit for the Raiders, but that mean that Bo Nix is not a fit. He is good size, good arm, good movement, good under pressure, good at protecting the ball, good at everything really. He isn't elite at things and really I think that is what people look for. That is why BBI probably struggles to see a player that goes in the first round. The kid can play and will be a long time starter in the league. Will he ever be a top 5 QB I don't think so, but that doesn't mean he won't be good and you can't win with him.

is a solid prospect and does a lot of things well...but man I could never spend a mid to high first rounder on a guy that seems to have a ceiling of decent starter, who's already 24 years old

A pox on your house MotownGiants!

In comment 16456356 SirYesSir said:

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is a solid prospect and does a lot of things well...but man I could never spend a mid to high first rounder on a guy that seems to have a ceiling of decent starter, who's already 24 years old

I believe I said long term starter. That is better than decent. It is tough to say top 10 QB when you Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Dak (yes regular season he is damn good), etc... To me he is Jared Goff or Kirk Cousins. They aren't great, but you can win with them. I mean look at that list and I didn't mention Caleb, Daniels, and Drake Maye who all have better potential to be a top QB. Brock Purdy, Jordan Love, CJ Stroud, etc. The NFL is currently loaded with QB talent and I think Bo Nix will be a long term starter in the mix with some of the names listed above. That is completely worth a first round pick.

Jenkins was the guy I was targeting at 55. Was waiting for him for a while too. My board also got wiped out from 51 to 54. Morgan and Pearsall were also options for me. Demz da breaks. My only issue with Wilson is his injury history. I'm taking a gamble here. Let's see what comes of it. The talent is definitely there. I'll say this: they don't make LBs like they used. These guys now are lightweights compared to the behemoths we used to watch play back in the day.

Cowboys in recent years have selected multiple players who made 30 visits
This year both Benson and Jonathan Brown have made visits
I chose Benson as he reminds me of Lavion Bell.
RB a huge need for the Cowboys

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Cowboys in recent years have selected multiple players who made 30 visits This year both Benson and Jonathan Brown have made visits I chose Benson as he reminds me of Lavion Bell. RB a huge need for the Cowboys

I LOVE that pick for you Rick, you sly dog you! Benson fits like a glove in Dallas. Definitely a position of need and the talent is there. Well done sir.

I was hoping Wilson would make it to me. Nice Pick

Not quite enough to make it to my pick, but the remaining players on my two highest tiers of remaining prospects. I hope you mongos don't take them all.

And now I am 4 picks away with all of the names still there so Matt G will be able to fire my pick when I get on the clock

Ennis Rakestraw isn't a bad consolation

In a shock selection the Bills take Brenden Rice. I think this kid is being slept on. We obviously need a playmaker at WR and the bloodlines don't get any better than this guy. Getting him at the end of the second is a great value imo.

33. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) – Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
34. New England (Sean) – Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
35. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Xavier Worthy, WR/RS, Texas
36. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
37. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Jer'Zhan Newton, IDL, Illinois
38. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) – Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
39. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG) – Zach Frazier, IOL, West Virginia
40. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Chi) – Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
41. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from NYJ) – Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
42. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min) – Braden Fiske, IDL, Florida State
43. Atlanta (BigBlue7) – Kamari Lassiter, CB/S, Georgia
44. Las Vegas (Amtoft) – Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
45. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (from Den) – Chris Braswell, EDGE/LB, Alabama
46. Indianapolis (Go Terps) – T'Vondre Sweat, IDL, Texas
47. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Sea) – Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
48. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) – Max Melton, CB, Rutgers
49. Cincinnati (Matt G) – Mike Sainristil, CB/S, Michigan
50. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from NO) – Bralen Trice, EDGE/LB, Washington
51. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) – Jordan Morgan, OT/IOL, Arizona
52. LA Rams (Allstarjim) – Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida
53. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) – Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
54. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) – Kris Jenkins Jr., IDL/EDGE, Michigan
55. Miami (Optimus-NY) – Payton Wilson, LB, NC State
56. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) – Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
57. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) – Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas
58. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) – Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State
59. Houston (Boatie Warrant) – Ennis Rakestraw, CB, Missouri
60. Buffalo (Uncledave) - Brenden Rice, WR, USC
61. Detroit (superspynyg) On the clock
62. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
63. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
64. Kansas City (English Alaister)

Round 3
65. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
66. Arizona (DCPollaro)
67. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
68. New England (Sean)
69. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
70. New York Giants (MadPlaid)
71. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Ten)
72. New York Jets (JayBinQueens)
73. Detroit (superspynyg) (from Min)
74. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
75. Chicago (Anakim)
76. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship)
77. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
78. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea)
79. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Jax)
80. Cincinnati (Matt G)
81. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from NO)
82. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
83. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
84. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
85. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS)
86. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Phi)
87. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
88. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
89. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
90. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou)
91. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from Buf)
92. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from Det)
93. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
94. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
95. Kansas City (English Alaister)
96. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp)
97. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp)
98. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Phi) (comp)
99. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
100. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from SF) (comp)

In comment 16456401 Optimus-NY said:

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Jenkins was the guy I was targeting at 55. Was waiting for him for a while too. My board also got wiped out from 51 to 54. Morgan and Pearsall were also options for me. Demz da breaks. My only issue with Wilson is his injury history. I'm taking a gamble here. Let's see what comes of it. The talent is definitely there. I'll say this: they don't make LBs like they used. These guys now are lightweights compared to the behemoths we used to watch play back in the day.

I love Payton Wilson... When he was 100% he shows up amazing on tape. Can he stay healthy is the only question and I would have gambled on him as well here.

Brenden Rice and most of the other WRs are such a step down from all the other earlier WRs. I was a little shocked at the difference when I was going through all the WRs. Not that Rice isn't good, but he isn't close to the ones before him IMO.

In comment 16456670 Amtoft said:

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Brenden Rice and most of the other WRs are such a step down from all the other earlier WRs. I was a little shocked at the difference when I was going through all the WRs. Not that Rice isn't good, but he isn't close to the ones before him IMO.

Had I known about the diggs trade before my first pick I would have done things differently. Would have been between Mitchell and Coleman for me. That being said I really like Rice. I don’t get the knocks on him. If you watch his highlights most of his catches from 2023 were clutch TDs and 3rd/4th down conversions. When Williams needed someone reliable he looked to Rice… even with others wide open. I love his tenacity and how he bullies defenders… you either have that or you don’t. The only other WR I was considering here was Walker. Another one who constantly made Maye look good. Lots of walkers big catches he had to slow down cause Maye couldn’t get it there. While I think the Bills would want to prioritize Walker’s speed - this is Tadaro’s draft room and he likes Rice’s confidence. I agree there’s a cliff after the early run at the top of the second- we’re given the handle we’re dealt and we make the best of it.

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In comment 16456670 Amtoft said: Quote: Brenden Rice and most of the other WRs are such a step down from all the other earlier WRs. I was a little shocked at the difference when I was going through all the WRs. Not that Rice isn't good, but he isn't close to the ones before him IMO. Had I known about the diggs trade before my first pick I would have done things differently. Would have been between Mitchell and Coleman for me. That being said I really like Rice. I don’t get the knocks on him. If you watch his highlights most of his catches from 2023 were clutch TDs and 3rd/4th down conversions. When Williams needed someone reliable he looked to Rice… even with others wide open. I love his tenacity and how he bullies defenders… you either have that or you don’t. The only other WR I was considering here was Walker. Another one who constantly made Maye look good. Lots of walkers big catches he had to slow down cause Maye couldn’t get it there. While I think the Bills would want to prioritize Walker’s speed - this is Tadaro’s draft room and he likes Rice’s confidence. I agree there’s a cliff after the early run at the top of the second- we’re given the handle we’re dealt and we make the best of it.

I agree there is a lot to like about Rice. I don't think this a reach at all. I was just talking about the run on tier 2 WRs ended and we were into Tier 3. Which isn't a bad tier, but definitely a drop. I really want the Giants to get a WR in the first two tiers. That is all I was saying.

In comment 16456333 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16454349 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 16454332 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: ? Excluding myself as well as the early picks I would say Best - Philly with Quinyon Mitchell. I think he could be the top CB in this draft and it would not surprise me if he goes 10 picks higher on draft day. Worst - Las Vegas with Bo Nix. I get you don’t want to be standing at the altar with QB7, but this was way too early and not really a scheme fit. If you look at what made Nix successful at Oregon it was keeping everything within 10 yards and getting it to guys in space. If you told me he was going to a team like Miami with Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill I could see it. But with Vegas that limits what Davante Adams can do. Oh man I totally missed this. I would say maybe you haven't seen Bo Nix enough. Nix has a strong arm and has made a ton of great down the field throws. He has some where he is rolling out, on one foot, across the field type throws. He made a lot of short throws not because he can't throw deep, but because that is the offense he played in. This isn't to early for Nix I would be completely shocked if he doesn't go pick 12 to Denver or Minny at all if they can't trade up. Ideally I think Penix is a better fit for the Raiders, but that mean that Bo Nix is not a fit. He is good size, good arm, good movement, good under pressure, good at protecting the ball, good at everything really. He isn't elite at things and really I think that is what people look for. That is why BBI probably struggles to see a player that goes in the first round. The kid can play and will be a long time starter in the league. Will he ever be a top 5 QB I don't think so, but that doesn't mean he won't be good and you can't win with him.

Watching Nix outside of Oregon's scheme I just have my doubts. He looked like a Day 3 guy at Auburn and at Senior Bowl and Combine he did not look good when having to do deeper passes or velocity.

Personally I think CB is a very top heavy position this year so I was pleasantly surprised that Tampa fell to 62. Seeing Melton and the Michigan CB go in the middle of Round 2 worried me as Rakestraw and Tampa were my final CB’s with Round 2 grades and I only had 1 CB with a 3rd Round grade. Will likely play on the outside of the Ravens D, but definitely could use some talent there.

If they don’t get someone by the top of the third they’re screwed out of a potential first year contributor. Would love to see them trade back up into the second so we can cherry pick a bit more.

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Personally I think CB is a very top heavy position this year so I was pleasantly surprised that Tampa fell to 62. Seeing Melton and the Michigan CB go in the middle of Round 2 worried me as Rakestraw and Tampa were my final CB’s with Round 2 grades and I only had 1 CB with a 3rd Round grade. Will likely play on the outside of the Ravens D, but definitely could use some talent there.

I have one more second round grade on CBs and then I agree it is raw or missing in size/speed/skill I have all others in.

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Watching Nix outside of Oregon's scheme I just have my doubts. He looked like a Day 3 guy at Auburn and at Senior Bowl and Combine he did not look good when having to do deeper passes or velocity.

Jayden Daniels didn't look like a first round pick either at ASU. I think a lot of that can be explained of doing stuff your not use to, but look at his deep ball numbers. He can throw deep, has plenty of arm. I still have him QB5/6, but I see much more ability in him. That is part of this though. Me and Chris Simms like him better than you don't. Makes talking about this more fun.

He was on the 4 player board I sent to Matt (along with Rakestraw, Tampa, and one player who is still on the board)

was going to pick Isaac and then Kneeland if he was gone, and both went before me!

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was going to pick Isaac and then Kneeland if he was gone, and both went before me!

Colson was the last player on the board that I considered for Tampa pick

How Colson is a replacement for the departed Brian Burns when Colson is a prototypical ILB all day, not an Edge at all like Burns...



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I love Orhorhoro… it one of the main DT I want the Giants to draft. Then I figured I was going to steal Christian Haynes because he is way down on the spreadsheet! I love Haynes! He is so good!! Both of those are amazing picks!

idk why he was listed so low...could slip into late first round honestly. Haynes is good and mean

In comment 16457031 Amtoft said:

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I love Orhorhoro… it one of the main DT I want the Giants to draft. Then I figured I was going to steal Christian Haynes because he is way down on the spreadsheet! I love Haynes! He is so good!! Both of those are amazing picks!

Thought the same about Haynes

One of the WR’s like Roman Wilson or Devontez Walker might be interesting here

33. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) – Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
34. New England (Sean) – Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
35. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Xavier Worthy, WR/RS, Texas
36. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
37. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Jer'Zhan Newton, IDL, Illinois
38. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) – Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
39. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG) – Zach Frazier, IOL, West Virginia
40. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Chi) – Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
41. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from NYJ) – Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
42. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min) – Braden Fiske, IDL, Florida State
43. Atlanta (BigBlue7) – Kamari Lassiter, CB/S, Georgia
44. Las Vegas (Amtoft) – Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
45. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (from Den) – Chris Braswell, EDGE/LB, Alabama
46. Indianapolis (Go Terps) – T'Vondre Sweat, IDL, Texas
47. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Sea) – Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
48. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) – Max Melton, CB, Rutgers
49. Cincinnati (Matt G) – Mike Sainristil, CB/S, Michigan
50. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from NO) – Bralen Trice, EDGE/LB, Washington
51. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) – Jordan Morgan, OT/IOL, Arizona
52. LA Rams (Allstarjim) – Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida
53. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) – Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
54. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) – Kris Jenkins Jr., IDL/EDGE, Michigan
55. Miami (Optimus-NY) – Payton Wilson, LB, NC State
56. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) – Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
57. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) – Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas
58. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) – Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State
59. Houston (Boatie Warrant) – Ennis Rakestraw, CB, Missouri
60. Buffalo (Uncledave) - Brenden Rice, WR, USC
61. Detroit (superspynyg) - Cooper Beebe, IOL, Kansas State
62. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - TJ Tampa, CB, Iowa State
63. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Adisa Isaac, EDGE, Penn State
64. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE/LB, Western Michigan

Round 3
65. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
66. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Ruke Orhorhoro, IDL, Clemson
67. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Christian Haynes, IOL, Connecticut
68. New England (Sean) - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington
69. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - DJ James, CB, Auburn
70. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - On the clock
71. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Ten)
72. New York Jets (JayBinQueens)
73. Detroit (superspynyg) (from Min)
74. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
75. Chicago (Anakim)
76. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship)
77. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
78. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea)
79. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Jax)
80. Cincinnati (Matt G)
81. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from NO)
82. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
83. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
84. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
85. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS)
86. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Phi)
87. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
88. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
89. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
90. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou)
91. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from Buf)
92. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from Det)
93. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
94. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
95. Kansas City (English Alaister)
96. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp)
97. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp)
98. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Phi) (comp)
99. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
100. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from SF) (comp)

So we went with the reach who lines up with the biggest need: CB D.J. James from Auburn. Similar gamble to the one NYG took with Cor’Dale Flott: get him into the weight room and hope he grows into an NFL corner. Not thrilled, but we knew when we jumped on Jer’Zahn Newton at #37 that the CB pickings at #69 would be slim.

I urge everyone to give Matt a board when their pick is coming up.

Pick is coming. I'm probably crazy. I have a feeling many are not going to like it. We will see.


NO! It is not a kicker.

In comment 16457084 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I urge everyone to give Matt a board when their pick is coming up.

You bet... Thanks for the plug BBB

Brooks would likely be a 1st round pick. Getting him in the 3rd is worth the risk. From what I read online, his recovery is going well, and he will be ready for training camp. His first year, he can be play a part in a committee while he returns to being 100%. It is a gamble that I think has the potential to deliver greatness.

In comment 16457090 MadPlaid said:

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Pick is coming. I'm probably crazy. I have a feeling many are not going to like it. We will see. NO! It is not a kicker.

An injured RB with Wilson and Walker on the board???

High upside, with a major injury last year, at a non-premium position. Its the 3rd round, so its not a terrible place to bet on upside.

Betting on greatness is fine by me, not sure I do it for a RB though. But I see what MadPlaid is thinking.

I just don't think it makes much sense for the Giants after signing Singletary and going QB/S in rounds 1 and 2. You're also writing off Eric Gray after one year, by relegating him to RB3 as soon as Brooks is fully healthy. I agree that Gray was terrible last year, but I think he gets one more chance. Singletary will get most of the carries anyway. A prime pick for a RB is a luxury NYG can't afford in 2024, or maybe even in 2025.

Seriously considered both. In the end, I liked two other players more. Brooks and Orhorhoro. So when the latter was picked prior to my turn, I went with the sexy/risky pick. I do have my eye on a WR who I think is pretty close to Wilson & Walker's skill set. I'm hoping he's still there at 4.

I am only pretending like I know what I am doing.

In comment 16457084 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I urge everyone to give Matt a board when their pick is coming up.

I second that. Not only is Matt good about following your order, but you can be confident that he doesn’t look at your lists until after he has made his pick if that is a concern for you.

while they have Chuck Clark on a 1 year deal, they need some stability at the S position to pair with Tony Adams

Cheaper and younger backfield with, frankly, more overall dependability and a wider skillset. He and Singletary are an improvement.

In comment 16457104 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I just don't think it makes much sense for the Giants after signing Singletary and going QB/S in rounds 1 and 2. You're also writing off Eric Gray after one year, by relegating him to RB3 as soon as Brooks is fully healthy. I agree that Gray was terrible last year, but I think he gets one more chance. Singletary will get most of the carries anyway. A prime pick for a RB is a luxury NYG can't afford in 2024, or maybe even in 2025.

Who are we kidding here? Eric Gray sucks. The Giants need all the help they can get at the end of the day.

I was between bullard and trotter!

In comment 16457167 JayBinQueens said:

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I was between bullard and trotter!

Trotter was also on my list after Colson got taken. Ravens could use some LB even before losing Queen in the offseason.

Clear BPA for me

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agreed. polk or wilson was probably my nyg pick there. maybe dorlus.

In comment 16457215 BigBlue7 said:

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Clear BPA for me

Polk was the guy I was hoping would fall to the 4th round for the Giants. I guess that was wishful thinking on my part. I definitely wanted him. I just thought he'd last a little longer. Damn it!

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In comment 16457404 johnnyb said:

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If they are using their due diligence to find players not on my list I do not mind. What I am most interested in seeing is who is QB7 and when will that player be selected.

give me one second

that was my #1 player on the board boat guy... I had him as a second rounder. He is a very good CB and a steal this late. Great pick.

but for anyone looking for a quality DL prospect Dorlus is still jumping off the board to me.

Jim Nagy actually just did a thread on him if you need to be sold.

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Jim Nagy @JimNagy_SB At this point in process, even casual draft fans know about the top names in DT rankings...Texas' Byron Murphy & T'Vondre Sweat and Illinois' Johnny Newton. Here's another name that's not going too far below those bigger name IDL: 𝘽𝙍𝘼𝙉𝘿𝙊𝙉 𝘿𝙊𝙍𝙇𝙐𝙎 Based off what teams are telling us, Dorlus is virtual Day 2 lock because he's got potential to be eventually be double-digit sack guy. Natural rush reactions & counter instincts like this👇make Dorlus intriguing likely Round 3 option for teams who don't go DT with early picks. 🧵1/7

obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight, but i think dorlus and 1 of the WRs (roman wilson or polk prob) would have been my NYG day 2 picks. melton would have been in the mix at #47 too.
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In comment 16457490 Amtoft said:

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that was my #1 player on the board boat guy... I had him as a second rounder. He is a very good CB and a steal this late. Great pick.

Interesting. He was not the CB I was referencing when we were discussing yesterday.

Fingers crossed he makes it to me

In comment 16457507 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16457490 Amtoft said: Quote: that was my #1 player on the board boat guy... I had him as a second rounder. He is a very good CB and a steal this late. Great pick. Interesting. He was not the CB I was referencing when we were discussing yesterday.

Really... I assumed we were talking about the same player. He is a converted WR and only getting better. He was all SEC, second team All American, gave up a passing rating of 54.7, less than 50% completion against him last year, 13PBUs with 4 INTs, and only getting better.

In comment 16457500 Eric on Li said:

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but for anyone looking for a quality DL prospect Dorlus is still jumping off the board to me. Jim Nagy actually just did a thread on him if you need to be sold. Quote: Jim Nagy @JimNagy_SB At this point in process, even casual draft fans know about the top names in DT rankings...Texas' Byron Murphy & T'Vondre Sweat and Illinois' Johnny Newton. Here's another name that's not going too far below those bigger name IDL: 𝘽𝙍𝘼𝙉𝘿𝙊𝙉 𝘿𝙊𝙍𝙇𝙐𝙎 Based off what teams are telling us, Dorlus is virtual Day 2 lock because he's got potential to be eventually be double-digit sack guy. Natural rush reactions & counter instincts like this👇make Dorlus intriguing likely Round 3 option for teams who don't go DT with early picks. 🧵1/7 obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight, but i think dorlus and 1 of the WRs (roman wilson or polk prob) would have been my NYG day 2 picks. melton would have been in the mix at #47 too. https://x.com/JimNagy_SB/status/1776232532155027548 - ( New Window )

I don't think he makes it and I also thing he isn't an Edge for us. If we are talking for our DT I have 3 other players I like better than him. Two from the same team.

In comment 16457518 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16457507 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 16457490 Amtoft said: Quote: that was my #1 player on the board boat guy... I had him as a second rounder. He is a very good CB and a steal this late. Great pick. Interesting. He was not the CB I was referencing when we were discussing yesterday. Really... I assumed we were talking about the same player. He is a converted WR and only getting better. He was all SEC, second team All American, gave up a passing rating of 54.7, less than 50% completion against him last year, 13PBUs with 4 INTs, and only getting better.

I thought he was too slight to play outside. The CB I had a Round 3 grade on was Khyree Jackson from Oregon.

with davidson and riley being bigger more true interior DL types and Thibs/Ojulari/Burns as more of the edge types I think Dorlus can fill a nice in between role with a position flex skill set not currently on the roster.

Jim Nagy
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Oregon's Brandon Dorlus' position usage is truly unique in this DL class.

✅ 1,950 total reps
✅ 755 inside at DT or NT
✅ 522 as hand-down DE
✅ 673 as standup LEO/OLB

That's crazy scheme-diverse position flex!

Teams with creative defensive coordinators are going to love upside of this player.

I mean are you still dealing with family issue... I don't want to be mean man, but we needed a top WR who has a chance to be a #1 and DT. You got a slow Safety and an injured RB. I mean I like Brooks don't get me wrong. I think he would have been a 2nd rounder if he didn't tear his ACL late. I think he has great potential, but we don't have the luxury in the way you are drafting. A backup or part time RB when we needed a starting DT and Maason Smith is sitting right there. I just don't get it.

In comment 16457522 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 16457518 Amtoft said: Quote: In comment 16457507 Mike in NY said: I thought he was too slight to play outside. The CB I had a Round 3 grade on was Khyree Jackson from Oregon.

I like Jackson... I watched a ton of Oregon this year unfortunately. Insane height, but he is slight also. 194 for 6'4 is not big. My only problem with him is he is soooo raw. Because of that you can beat him with double moves and he is out of position at times. I do like him though. I was planning on Quinyon Mitchell in the first and had to pass, had to pass on Melton in the 2nd and just missed Abrams-Draine. Maybe CB isn't in my books this year hahaha.

Similar to Haynes I thought I would be able to sneak him later due to how low GBN had him when the spreadsheet was constructed

Can play tackle and guard. Will likely start at guard and then potentially move to tackle after a year or two

In comment 16457529 Eric on Li said:

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with davidson and riley being bigger more true interior DL types and Thibs/Ojulari/Burns as more of the edge types I think Dorlus can fill a nice in between role with a position flex skill set not currently on the roster. Jim Nagy @JimNagy_SB Oregon's Brandon Dorlus' position usage is truly unique in this DL class. ✅ 1,950 total reps ✅ 755 inside at DT or NT ✅ 522 as hand-down DE ✅ 673 as standup LEO/OLB That's crazy scheme-diverse position flex! Teams with creative defensive coordinators are going to love upside of this player.

He is diverse, but I don't see the pass rusher that Jim Nagy does. Now am I better scout than Nagy... Hell no not even close, but I don't see double digits. I believe he is assuming he gets those as a 4-3 edge. Again I like Maason Smith, Michael Hall, and Wingo all better for our DL/DT. That is just me though.

In comment 16457547 BigBlue7 said:

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Can play tackle and guard. Will likely start at guard and then potentially move to tackle after a year or two

Never seen him... wasn't even on my radar so now I have to do some research damn it... hahaha

In comment 16457546 Mike in NY said:

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Similar to Haynes I thought I would be able to sneak him later due to how low GBN had him when the spreadsheet was constructed

I thought he had been picked since I didn't see him in the top 30 or 40 available players when I was looking this morning

Polk was always going to be my first 3rd round pick if he made it to me. When I made the Polk pick, I did a name search to see where Kiran was selected and saw that he hadn't been. So I just crossed my fingers and hoped he make it a few more picks - and here we are

Wilson as my last WR I liked after Pearsall and Corley went. He is so under rated because of the offense he played in. Would have loved the Giants to get him in the 3rd.

In comment 16457554 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16457547 BigBlue7 said: Quote: Can play tackle and guard. Will likely start at guard and then potentially move to tackle after a year or two Never seen him... wasn't even on my radar so now I have to do some research damn it... hahaha

Brugler's 58th ranked player in the draft. Suffered a season ending injury and it prevented him from participating in the all star games so he hasn't gotten much press in the last few months.

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I couldn't make myself draft him or even put him on my list. He killed CAL this year in a game we should have won (lost 49-50 on a failed two point conversion). I don't know what USC was doing on offense all year. It was almost like they were trying to feature Caleb to much to get him to be the #1 pick in the draft and they would abandon the run a lot. They also would give Austin Jones the ball even when Lloyd was rolling. This could end up being a steal as he has so much potential. He does have some legs injuries from his past, but great pick and screw him.

he's my hope for nyg...most have him going quite a bit later, but a very well rounded back that's good at a LOT of things

In comment 16457595 Amtoft said:

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I couldn't make myself draft him or even put him on my list. He killed CAL this year in a game we should have won (lost 49-50 on a failed two point conversion). I don't know what USC was doing on offense all year. It was almost like they were trying to feature Caleb to much to get him to be the #1 pick in the draft and they would abandon the run a lot. They also would give Austin Jones the ball even when Lloyd was rolling. This could end up being a steal as he has so much potential. He does have some legs injuries from his past, but great pick and screw him.

Thanks Amtoft... Yep, I was always surprised by how he was used at USC... I would guess the injury concerns are what is holding him back a bit... His game just seems to be what the NFL is looking for

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is such a great pick for the giants in the 3rd. Oh man I wish MadPlaid took Pearsall i'd be LOVING our draft of JJ McCarthy Pearsall and Brooks. Since it didn't happen in the mock hopefully it happens for real

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In comment 16457531 Amtoft said:

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I mean are you still dealing with family issue... I don't want to be mean man, but we needed a top WR who has a chance to be a #1 and DT. You got a slow Safety and an injured RB. I mean I like Brooks don't get me wrong. I think he would have been a 2nd rounder if he didn't tear his ACL late. I think he has great potential, but we don't have the luxury in the way you are drafting. A backup or part time RB when we needed a starting DT and Maason Smith is sitting right there. I just don't get it.

Hey, quit picking on me, ya big doodie head! Kidding.

No, I appreciate the criticism. I want to know if you think I'm making a mistake. I am trying to learn as I go. I took a bit of a gamble there with the 3rd round pick. I had my eyes on a WR who I thought could fall to me in the 4th round. Polk. I liked what I read about him a lot. Sounded like one of those under the radar players who prove to be great. I lost. He wasn't under the radar enough. LOL

I liked what I read about Maason Smith, I just liked Brooks more. He is part of the gamble. If he recovers fully, we have a heck of a playmaker to take Saquon's spot in the committee.

But Sinnott represented a strong value at 83rd overall.

Tyler Higbee is 31 years old, and this pick stabilizes the position for now and the future. I feel like Sinnott is a 2nd round talent, so getting him here gives Stafford two new weapons to go with the aforementioned Higbee, as well as Kupp and Nacua, now having Ricky Pearsall and Sinnott to give a lot of flexibility in the offense.

just a head's up, you listed two names on that Pittsburgh pick...

In comment 16457550 Amtoft said:

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He is diverse, but I don't see the pass rusher that Jim Nagy does. Now am I better scout than Nagy... Hell no not even close, but I don't see double digits. I believe he is assuming he gets those as a 4-3 edge. Again I like Maason Smith, Michael Hall, and Wingo all better for our DL/DT. That is just me though.

i think nagy is projecting him as an interior DL pass rusher. john franklin meyers type. i think autry is a decent comp also, he played bunch of different alignments and is in that same 285lb range.

I made my pick of OC Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia. Why did you pick WR Devontez Walker/RB Blake Corum? I didn't send you a draft list so not sure why you made a pick on behalf of the Steelers.

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I thought he would have been very high on the list for the Giants pick in 3.

Ben Sinnot all year... then saw his combine and stats and was like wow I need to go back and watch him. I was impressed. I like him and wouldn't mind him on the Giants, but I don't think we can take him unless Waller retires and he falls some. Great pick here.

Also wanted to add... Jaylen Wright is my favorite RB in the draft. I loved watching him for Tennessee.

In comment 16457725 MadPlaid said:

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In comment 16457531 Amtoft said: Quote: I mean are you still dealing with family issue... I don't want to be mean man, but we needed a top WR who has a chance to be a #1 and DT. You got a slow Safety and an injured RB. I mean I like Brooks don't get me wrong. I think he would have been a 2nd rounder if he didn't tear his ACL late. I think he has great potential, but we don't have the luxury in the way you are drafting. A backup or part time RB when we needed a starting DT and Maason Smith is sitting right there. I just don't get it. Hey, quit picking on me, ya big doodie head! Kidding. No, I appreciate the criticism. I want to know if you think I'm making a mistake. I am trying to learn as I go. I took a bit of a gamble there with the 3rd round pick. I had my eyes on a WR who I thought could fall to me in the 4th round. Polk. I liked what I read about him a lot. Sounded like one of those under the radar players who prove to be great. I lost. He wasn't under the radar enough. LOL I liked what I read about Maason Smith, I just liked Brooks more. He is part of the gamble. If he recovers fully, we have a heck of a playmaker to take Saquon's spot in the committee.

You know the funny thing... I was trying to be nice hahaha. I understand your drafting... We need a Safety, we need a RB, we need a QB... Can you really not hit a position we need with draft picks. We need a CB, We need a DT, we need a WR, we need another OL, we need we need we need.

Should be back on schedule

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Should be back on schedule

Matt, you have Houston’s pick wrong and not sure if Cleveland wanted Wilson or Walker before we move on

slightly messed up. Jaylen Wright went to Houston and the Browns took Johnny Wilson WR FSU... Tez Walker should still be available.

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slightly messed up. Jaylen Wright went to Houston and the Browns took Johnny Wilson WR FSU... Tez Walker should still be available.

The Wilson pick was immediately after Walker so I think it would be good to find out who Cleveland wants.

Got hung up on selection numbers in the emails and quickly posted the Walker pick as i was headed into a meeting

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Good to go Rick... Apologies

Hoping he is fully recovered from leg injury
Cowboys do a good job coaching up OL.
Going to take a long Siesta guys as my next pick is in 5th round at number 174.

Matt great job once again my friend.
Take it easy on Madplaid

You hit the magic word. A lot actually. Need. There are so many places this freakin' team needs help. It almost doesn't matter who I pick, they are going to fill a need.

By the way, one of the things I believe in is you do not pick for need alone. You must find talent and you use need to help break a tie. I am trying to find talent regardless if we are particularly weak in any specific place. That's why I selected a Safety with one of the two first rounders we had a couple years ago instead of an Olineman. He's now a star player for the Ravens. Why I went Oline in the first round last year when we apparently had bookends already in place. He is now a starter for the Steelers.
Grab the talent first, worry where they fit later.

Yeah, the safety this year was probably not the best move on my part. Although there are analysts who think he's got 1st round talent. However, I am happy with the RB. I'm gambling I nabbed a talent that if he hadn't been hurt would have been a first round draft pick. And, I got him in the 3rd. Although, that gamble was partly made because I thought I could get away with waiting to select a talented under the radar WR later. That didn't work out the way I hoped.

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In comment 16457899 Rick in Dallas said: Quote: …. Good to go Rick... Apologies

You don't need to apologize for anything. We appreciate you so much.

In comment 16457932 MadPlaid said:

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You hit the magic word. A lot actually. Need. There are so many places this freakin' team needs help. It almost doesn't matter who I pick, they are going to fill a need. By the way, one of the things I believe in is you do not pick for need alone. You must find talent and you use need to help break a tie. I am trying to find talent regardless if we are particularly weak in any specific place. That's why I selected a Safety with one of the two first rounders we had a couple years ago instead of an Olineman. He's now a star player for the Ravens. Why I went Oline in the first round last year when we apparently had bookends already in place. He is now a starter for the Steelers. Grab the talent first, worry where they fit later. Yeah, the safety this year was probably not the best move on my part. Although there are analysts who think he's got 1st round talent. However, I am happy with the RB. I'm gambling I nabbed a talent that if he hadn't been hurt would have been a first round draft pick. And, I got him in the 3rd. Although, that gamble was partly made because I thought I could get away with waiting to select a talented under the radar WR later. That didn't work out the way I hoped.

I hear you... however by the time you pick DT or WR the talent is gone. Safety and RB there is still talent with the same level as who we got is all. It is working the draft where the talent is heaviest. WR is round 1-2 loaded, but so many will be gone that round 3 is getting slim and probably won't have even a good WR2 in the remaining group. Taking a WR now would almost be a waste. Will that person be any better than Slayton, Hyatt, and Robinson? No so we missed WR this year while we could have got a safety in round 4 that could break into Pinnock and Belton. Same with RB there are some later that can back up Singletary or share with him. DT the list is small now who is good with this year starter material and it drops off. That is all my point is. The draft isn't 7 rounds deep at all postions. In fact Safety has light to no 1-2 round talent, but not bad 3-5 round talent. DT has 2nd to early 3rd round talent and then drops.

That is an excellent point about what rounds are the level of talent. Something I feel I struggle to grasp when it comes time to draft. This is the kind of feedback I really appreciate because it is teaching me about strategy and other things at play in this process.

Very cool.

65. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
66. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Ruke Orhorhoro, IDL, Clemson
67. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Christian Haynes, IOL, Connecticut
68. New England (Sean) - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington
69. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - DJ James, CB, Auburn
70. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas
71. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Ten) - Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
72. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) - Javon Bullard, S/CB, Georgia
73. Detroit (superspynyg) (from Min) - Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
74. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington
75. Chicago (Anakim) - Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
76. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) - Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
77. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
78. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea) - Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
79. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Jax) - Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale
80. Cincinnati (Matt G) - MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC
81. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from NO) - Brandon Dorlus, EDGE/IDL, Oregon
82. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame
83. LA Rams (Allstarjim) - Ben Sinnot, TE, Kansas State
84. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) - Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia
85. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) - Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina
86. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Phi) - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee
87. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Zak Zinter, IOL, Michigan
88. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Christian Jones, OT, Texas
89. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
90. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou) - On the clock
91. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from Buf)
92. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from Det)
93. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
94. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
95. Kansas City (English Alaister)
96. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp)
97. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp)
98. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Phi) (comp)
99. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
100. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from SF) (comp)

Round 4
101. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
102. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Was)
103. New England (Sean)
104. Arizona (DCPollaro)
105. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
106. Tennessee (TommytheElephant)
107. New York Giants (MadPlaid)
108. Minnesota (Johnnyb)
109. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
110. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Chi)
111. New York Jets (JayBinQueens)
112. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
113. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (from NYJ, Den)
114. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax)
115. Cincinnati (Matt G)
116. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (from NO)
117. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
118. Seattle (sjnyfan)
119. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
120. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Pit, LAR)
121. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Mia)
122. Chicago (Anakim) (from Phi)
123. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Cle)
124. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Dal)
125. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
126. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
127. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
128. Buffalo (Uncledave)
129. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Det)
130. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
131. Kansas City (English Alaister)
132. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
133. Buffalo (Uncledave) (comp)
134. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) (from Bal) (comp)
135. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)

Hopefully DCP check his email this am... He's always good about it

In comment 16457851 Amtoft said:

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Ben Sinnot all year... then saw his combine and stats and was like wow I need to go back and watch him. I was impressed. I like him and wouldn't mind him on the Giants, but I don't think we can take him unless Waller retires and he falls some. Great pick here. Also wanted to add... Jaylen Wright is my favorite RB in the draft. I loved watching him for Tennessee.

I was very happy he was still available at my pick. RB was not a big need for Houston but pairing another young offensive talent after going Def, Def, the previous two picks was pretty important, (to me at least)

Wright to me not only has perfect RB size but that speed and explosiveness can not be ignored.

Hopefully neither take the top guy on my board as I have one player clearly ranked higher than the rest and the players after him I feel I can get comparable players in Round 4.

I saw your name ahead of me and rolled my eyes knowing you'd take the player I want lol.

In comment 16458492 Andy in Halifax said:

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I saw your name ahead of me and rolled my eyes knowing you'd take the player I want lol.

You took both my picks right in front of me in RD 1-2... I was planning to take Verse and Melton... And I only got a reprieve on my last pick because JAX traded out! lol

Unfortunately, I only got one for #88... Hopefully he checks his email for the follow up requests for #91

Sorry I'm in Nashville with friends this weekend

In comment 16458542 ChicagoGiant said:

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Sorry I'm in Nashville with friends this weekend

No worries... Thanks for getting it in!

Who have sniped me before with Latham

Have been waiting and waiting and waiting…..

In comment 16459012 Pete from Woodstock said:

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Have been waiting and waiting and waiting…..

He was on the site today around 12. You’d think he’d do us a solid and make a selection. Nope.

Definitely added at least a full day to the draft timeline as it’s takes time to regain momentum when it grinds to a halt like this… And we had already been trailing recent years’ pace as is

65. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
66. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Ruke Orhorhoro, IDL, Clemson
67. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Christian Haynes, IOL, Connecticut
68. New England (Sean) - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington
69. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - DJ James, CB, Auburn
70. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas
71. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Ten) - Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
72. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) - Javon Bullard, S/CB, Georgia
73. Detroit (superspynyg) (from Min) - Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
74. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington
75. Chicago (Anakim) - Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
76. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) - Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
77. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
78. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea) - Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
79. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Jax) - Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale
80. Cincinnati (Matt G) - MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC
81. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from NO) - Brandon Dorlus, EDGE/IDL, Oregon
82. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame
83. LA Rams (Allstarjim) - Ben Sinnot, TE, Kansas State
84. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) - Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia
85. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) - Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina
86. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Phi) - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee
87. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Zak Zinter, IOL, Michigan
88. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Christian Jones, OT, Texas
89. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
90. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou) - Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon
91. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from Buf) - Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
92. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from Det) - On the clock
93. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
94. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
95. Kansas City (English Alaister)
96. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp)
97. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp)
98. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Phi) (comp)
99. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
100. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from SF) (comp)

Round 4
101. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
102. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Was)
103. New England (Sean)
104. Arizona (DCPollaro)
105. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
106. Tennessee (TommytheElephant)
107. New York Giants (MadPlaid)
108. Minnesota (Johnnyb)
109. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
110. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Chi)
111. New York Jets (JayBinQueens)
112. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
113. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (from NYJ, Den)
114. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax)
115. Cincinnati (Matt G)
116. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (from NO)
117. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
118. Seattle (sjnyfan)
119. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
120. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Pit, LAR)
121. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Mia)
122. Chicago (Anakim) (from Phi)
123. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Cle)
124. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Dal)
125. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
126. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
127. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
128. Buffalo (Uncledave)
129. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Det)
130. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
131. Kansas City (English Alaister)
132. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
133. Buffalo (Uncledave) (comp)
134. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) (from Bal) (comp)
135. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)

I believe Pete is West Coast but he was ready last night and checked in early this morning... I have #95, #97 and #100 ready to go...

But Hall was on a different tier than all of the other remaining players on my board that I could not ignore him at this point. Really like his upside when he doesn’t have so many bodies competing for reps.

I was hoping he’d fall to my next pick. Was probably my fallback if Tampa selected Hall

I had both in RD1 starting the season...

I guess with Hall it's that he is undersized at 290lbs but he's also just 20yo so you would think 10-15lbs isn't out of the question... And he's just a really tough experienced player coming out of OSU...

And then with Taylor, he had a bit of a down season and there are questions around him not playing to the whistle... But he has great quickness off the snap for a man his size... Also, keep in mind that last year they started playing him at 0-technique for most of his snaps... He is much better suited at 3T... He is relatively young (21) and has a lot of talent for a DL coach to work with...

Both seem like nice upside picks at this point in the draft

9ers needed a WR just in case we can’t come to a long term deal with Brandon Aiyuk. We know he has a red flag for temperament. It was the heat of the battle. He made a bad choice. We think he has matured and turn into another great receiver for the Niners
BTW I’m in NY not west coast.

Pick coming shortly.

In comment 16459526 Andy in Halifax said:

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Pick coming shortly.

I try! :)

I knew you'd like him and he was way up on my board relative to others.

Pivot to Smith. A guy with all the upside, physical attributes and athleticism but raw.

Think there would be such a run on DT

In comment 16459534 JayBinQueens said:

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Think there would be such a run on DT

Smith and Hall were both high on GBN board although Hall represented too much value to pass up. At pick 93 can gamble on his potential.

In comment 16459532 Andy in Halifax said:

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I knew you'd like him and he was way up on my board relative to others. Pivot to Smith. A guy with all the upside, physical attributes and athleticism but raw.

Maason Smith will go higher than this. He is was 100% he was not good he was great. He dominated. I hope the Giants get him in the 3rd if he makes it. Most of this years DT are in the 290 range and Maason Smith is the one with good size at over 300. Great pick.

I also like Michael Hall who is in my 3rd round DT hope for the Giants.

There are some downsides with him but he is a "first off the bus" guy with a lot of talent to work with... I could see the Steelers being interested in him... He fits their mold on DL

Sorry...indisposed

DUI. Guess I am glad i passed..

65. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
66. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Ruke Orhorhoro, IDL, Clemson
67. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Christian Haynes, IOL, Connecticut
68. New England (Sean) - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington
69. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - DJ James, CB, Auburn
70. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas
71. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Ten) - Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
72. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) - Javon Bullard, S/CB, Georgia
73. Detroit (superspynyg) (from Min) - Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
74. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington
75. Chicago (Anakim) - Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
76. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) - Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
77. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
78. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea) - Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
79. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Jax) - Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale
80. Cincinnati (Matt G) - MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC
81. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from NO) - Brandon Dorlus, EDGE/IDL, Oregon
82. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame
83. LA Rams (Allstarjim) - Ben Sinnot, TE, Kansas State
84. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) - Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia
85. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) - Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina
86. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Phi) - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee
87. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Zak Zinter, IOL, Michigan
88. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Christian Jones, OT, Texas
89. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
90. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou) - Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon
91. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from Buf) - Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
92. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from Det) - Leonard Taylor, IDL/EDGE, Miami
93. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Michael Hall, IDL/EDGE, Ohio State
94. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama
95. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Josh Newton, CB, TCU
96. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp) - Maason Smith, IDL/EDGE, LSU
97. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp) - Calen Bullock, S, USC
98. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Phi) (comp) - Christian Mahogany, IOL, Boston College
99. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp) - On the clock until 11am
100. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from SF) (comp)

Round 4
101. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte)
102. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Was)
103. New England (Sean)
104. Arizona (DCPollaro)
105. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
106. Tennessee (TommytheElephant)
107. New York Giants (MadPlaid)
108. Minnesota (Johnnyb)
109. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
110. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Chi)
111. New York Jets (JayBinQueens)
112. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
113. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (from NYJ, Den)
114. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax)
115. Cincinnati (Matt G)
116. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (from NO)
117. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
118. Seattle (sjnyfan)
119. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
120. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Pit, LAR)
121. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Mia)
122. Chicago (Anakim) (from Phi)
123. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Cle)
124. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Dal)
125. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
126. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
127. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
128. Buffalo (Uncledave)
129. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Det)
130. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
131. Kansas City (English Alaister)
132. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
133. Buffalo (Uncledave) (comp)
134. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) (from Bal) (comp)
135. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)

Not only do we have an eclipse today, but we also have a timer in our draft. Please be aware starting at 9, you have time limit to account for.

Cheers

If LAR are unable to make their selection by 11am, the pick will be Mohamed Kamara, EDGE, Colorado State

CB Renardo Green - has been getting a lot attention for his game tape against LSU where he had more success against Thomas/Nabers than essentially any cb they faced all year.

There was another player the Commies could really use as well, had a hard decision here, but we'll take a guy that might be a long-term starter

:)

NE is on the clock

Just to bang the drum again, if your pick is coming up and you're not sure whether you'll be on line, please send Matt your shortlist.

Back to the Chargers' pick at #105, OT Matt Goncalves...

I think plan A for LAC is to trade out of #5 and seek a replacement for Trey Pipkins later in Round 1. In a no-trade daft, we decided to go for greatness at #5 with Malik Nabers and gamble that a field-ready RT prospect would be available at #37. That didn't work out, so the new staff will have to live with Pipkins for now, and hope a long-shot Plan B yields a new right tackle by 2025.

Goncalves missed most of the 2023 season with a toe injury - never a good thing for a 327-pound lineman. At #105, there are no clean prospects, so the Chargers hope for the best with his toe and his borderline OT traits. We figure Goncalves has at least as good a chance of developing into a starting RT as the other options left on the board. His floor should be as a valuable sixth man, which wouldn't be bad value here.

Should be ready to pick soon after

Pick is in

MadPlaid might be the only GM sufficiently demented to poach LAC's target for pick #110.

3 guys being taken before #111

In comment 16460637 Big Blue Blogger said:

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MadPlaid might be the only GM sufficiently demented to poach LAC's target for pick #110.

LOL! That tracks. Fair

In comment 16460637 Big Blue Blogger said:

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MadPlaid might be the only GM sufficiently demented to poach LAC's target for pick #110.

I know who I would be looking at if I was MadPlaid, but we'll see if he goes that direction.

Was not the direction I would have gone

Hope you like it. Adding to the DL is a good thing. I read online about Wingo's commitment to his team and how he returned early from injury to play in the team's bowl game. That impressed me. I wanted that kind of character on the Giants. Hopefully, his talent proves worthy of the selection.

I'm not sure he's a good system fit for Bowen's defense, but the tools and intangibles are there even if the size isn't.

he was just a little bit less productive and less athletic. not as long levered as dorlus so he fit this comp better, but i think a DL in the denico autry versatility mold is a piece that was important in Bowen's defense but not yet on this roster so the pick makes sense.

madplaids mekhi pick last year would have been a great one so hopefully this one follows suit.

I am putting the finishing touches on a short list and it is crazy the number of people I have the same grade on. Nobody is standing out so maybe I will just go by what position has the fewest names left as certain positions have more than others.

I think I'm fine as I am 5 picks away but apologies in advance if I am up and don't pick immediately. I was semi confident my two person list would be available but they have been snatched. I will not cause a long delay, if any

would fall. Oh well

In comment 16460680 MadPlaid said:

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Hope you like it. Adding to the DL is a good thing. I read online about Wingo's commitment to his team and how he returned early from injury to play in the team's bowl game. That impressed me. I wanted that kind of character on the Giants. Hopefully, his talent proves worthy of the selection.

Just when I think you can't make this draft any worse.... You go and totally redeem yourself! If you decided to watch LSU to see Daniels, Nabers, and Brian Thomas and it wasn't just highlights. Your probably saw Wingo wrecking shop with quickness. He has had some injuries, but high character and a leader. They give #18 out as something you have to earn. He is going to be a good fit in our def which if people didn't know is more 4-2-5 than anything. He will cause issues on the inside especially on passing downs. He shouldn't have made it this far.

In comment 16460721 Mike in NY said:

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I am putting the finishing touches on a short list and it is crazy the number of people I have the same grade on. Nobody is standing out so maybe I will just go by what position has the fewest names left as certain positions have more than others.

Really I had a 4 player board and now it is only a two player board. Renaldo Green is a great pick in the 4th. It seems after not getting one in each of these 4 rounds I won't be getting a CB this draft.

In comment 16460697 Big Blue Blogger said:

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I'm not sure he's a good system fit for Bowen's defense, but the tools and intangibles are there even if the size isn't.

I don't agree. Isn't Bowens style blitz less and let his front 4 get to the QB while grabbing the RB on the way. That is Wingo who wins with quick first step and will cause troubles for OGs trying to block him. He is strong too. I think all these undersized DTs that are good penetrators are good fits for us.

Commanders are pretty pleased for how the offensive re-vamp has begun

Rd1: QB Jayden Daniels
Rd2: OT Kingsley Suamataia
Rd2: WR Ladd McConkey
Rd3: OG Christian Haynes
Rd3: TE Theo Johnson
Rd3: CB Renardo Green

In comment 16460807 SirYesSir said:

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Commanders are pretty pleased for how the offensive re-vamp has begun Rd1: QB Jayden Daniels Rd2: OT Kingsley Suamataia Rd2: WR Ladd McConkey Rd3: OG Christian Haynes Rd3: TE Theo Johnson Rd3: CB Renardo Green

I haven't seen or studied Suamataia, however the rest of that draft is really good. I love the Haynes in the 3rd although in real life I don't think he makes it that far.

and a two player board left! Please leave me one!

In comment 16460821 Amtoft said:

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and a two player board left! Please leave me one!

Sweet I am good!

Was going to grab Wilson. Oh well. A good space eating DT to line up next to Q will help the dogs get to the QB

In comment 16460829 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16460821 Amtoft said: Quote: and a two player board left! Please leave me one! Sweet I am good!

If you can avoid someone I am looking at that would be great

Few teams have a grander tradition of pass-catching tight ends, from Dave Kocourek in the Chargers' inaugural seasons, to Hall of Famer Kellen Winslow to likely eventual inductee Antonio Gates. LAC signed Will Dissly to handle the dirty work inside. Wilson is built more like Winslow or Gates. Harbaugh and Roman see Vernon Davis-like potential. Most Darren Waller-type WR-to-TE projects fail, but it's worth a try at #110. With Dissly, Hayden Hurst, and Donald Parham on the roster, LAC can be patient with Wilson, who might begin his Charger career on the thin WR depth chart.

I was hoping Austin Booker would last to #140, but Coach Harbaugh's brother snagged him a #113. Serves Jim right for talking about edge rusher prospects over Easter dinner.

Jags go TE. I am wondering if I am missing some info on him as we had McLachlan higher than a few TEs that went ahead of him. I am ready for my next pick too.

Our coaching staff heard all about him from Jim over Easter dinner and pressed the scouts to take a further look. One of the youngest players in this year's draft he has intriguing upside as a situational pass rusher.

I think its likely we get one in the first two days but if we don't I hope Baker is a guy we look at.

Jags happy to take him in whatever round this is.

was the guy I was flipping a coin for at my Renardo Green pick at #100

I just tend to think corner is a safer middle round bet to pay off then edge. Maybe I just have Ellerson Smith on the brain

In comment 16460935 SirYesSir said:

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was the guy I was flipping a coin for at my Renardo Green pick at #100 I just tend to think corner is a safer middle round bet to pay off then edge. Maybe I just have Ellerson Smith on the brain

I had already gotten my CB having selected T.J. Tampa in Round 2.

So far for the Ravens I have
Round 1 - Tyler Guyton
Round 2 - T.J. Tampa
Round 3 - Michael Hall
Round 4a - Austin Booker

More emphasis on Defense than I expected to do early on, but that was how the draft fell. 3 picks left to go followed by "UDFA." Lot of names still on my board, but none stand out as clearly better than the rest.

Rd 1: Marvin Harrison Jr. (Wr - Ohio State)
Rd 1: Darius Robinson (DL - Missouri)
Rd 2: Xavier Worthy (Wr - Texas)
Rd 3: Ruke Orhorhoro (DL - Clemson)
Rd 3: Blake Corum (RB - Michigan)
Rd 3: Khyree Jackson (CB - Oregon)
Rd 4: Cole Bishop (S - Utah)

2 more picks in the 5th coming up!

In comment 16460968 DCPollaro said:

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Rd 1: Marvin Harrison Jr. (Wr - Ohio State) Rd 1: Darius Robinson (DL - Missouri) Rd 2: Xavier Worthy (Wr - Texas) Rd 3: Ruke Orhorhoro (DL - Clemson) Rd 3: Blake Corum (RB - Michigan) Rd 3: Khyree Jackson (CB - Oregon) Rd 4: Cole Bishop (S - Utah) 2 more picks in the 5th coming up!

This is a really good draft also. I wouldn't want Worthy as my #1, but he wouldn't be with MHj. He can and will make plays not to mention his return abilities. Orhorhoro is one of my favorite DTs I want the Giants to get. Nice draft so far.

In comment 16460978 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16460968 DCPollaro said: Quote: Rd 1: Marvin Harrison Jr. (Wr - Ohio State) Rd 1: Darius Robinson (DL - Missouri) Rd 2: Xavier Worthy (Wr - Texas) Rd 3: Ruke Orhorhoro (DL - Clemson) Rd 3: Blake Corum (RB - Michigan) Rd 3: Khyree Jackson (CB - Oregon) Rd 4: Cole Bishop (S - Utah) 2 more picks in the 5th coming up! This is a really good draft also. I wouldn't want Worthy as my #1, but he wouldn't be with MHj. He can and will make plays not to mention his return abilities. Orhorhoro is one of my favorite DTs I want the Giants to get. Nice draft so far.

Ruke next to Dex would be fun to watch, I wonder where Sy will have him

Or they will be auto drafted

But he’s been on… Will send bat signal in case he’s missed it

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But he’s been on… Will send bat signal in case he’s missed it

You have to feel bad for Kamara at this point.

Mine was deleted and unable to repost… Maybe he is just cutting close but rather be safe

Completely sneaked up on me. Apologies.

Again, sorry for the delay guys.

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In comment 16461077 Go Terps said:

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Again, sorry for the delay guys.

If you select before the player after you has picked you can override the autopick

I know he had been waiting

Thanks. And sorry again.

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However you want to handle it is fine by me.

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Since you just beat Indy had Kamara been there would you have selected him?

In comment 16461093 Go Terps said:

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However you want to handle it is fine by me.

If nobody else selects and Seattle says they would not have taken Kamara if he was available I don't have a problem giving you Pratt

so I can see why it kinda snuck on him. We got used to dudes taking forever.

The Eagles are on the clock!

In comment 16460769 Amtoft said:

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In comment 16460680 MadPlaid said: Quote: Hope you like it. Adding to the DL is a good thing. I read online about Wingo's commitment to his team and how he returned early from injury to play in the team's bowl game. That impressed me. I wanted that kind of character on the Giants. Hopefully, his talent proves worthy of the selection. Just when I think you can't make this draft any worse.... You go and totally redeem yourself! If you decided to watch LSU to see Daniels, Nabers, and Brian Thomas and it wasn't just highlights. Your probably saw Wingo wrecking shop with quickness. He has had some injuries, but high character and a leader. They give #18 out as something you have to earn. He is going to be a good fit in our def which if people didn't know is more 4-2-5 than anything. He will cause issues on the inside especially on passing downs. He shouldn't have made it this far.

Thank you, Amtoft. I need to credit you on this one. Earlier you endorsed the DLinemen who were available, so I paid them more attention for my 3rd & 4th round picks. I was probably going to select Orhorhoro at 3, but he was gone, so I went with Brooks. Fortunately, Wingo was still available at 4. I’m happy how things have worked out. I’d like a do over in the 2nd though.

Hey, I didn’t notice that the Giants have a long wait between their 4th & 5th round picks. This is where trades suck.

65. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
66. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Ruke Orhorhoro, IDL, Clemson
67. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Christian Haynes, IOL, Connecticut
68. New England (Sean) - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington
69. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - DJ James, CB, Auburn
70. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas
71. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Ten) - Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
72. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) - Javon Bullard, S/CB, Georgia
73. Detroit (superspynyg) (from Min) - Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
74. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington
75. Chicago (Anakim) - Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
76. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) - Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
77. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
78. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea) - Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
79. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Jax) - Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale
80. Cincinnati (Matt G) - MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC
81. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from NO) - Brandon Dorlus, EDGE/IDL, Oregon
82. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame
83. LA Rams (Allstarjim) - Ben Sinnot, TE, Kansas State
84. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) - Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia
85. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) - Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina
86. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Phi) - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee
87. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) - Zak Zinter, IOL, Michigan
88. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Christian Jones, OT, Texas
89. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
90. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou) - Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon
91. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from Buf) - Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
92. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (from Det) - Leonard Taylor, IDL/EDGE, Miami
93. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Michael Hall, IDL/EDGE, Ohio State
94. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama
95. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Josh Newton, CB, TCU
96. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp) - Maason Smith, IDL/EDGE, LSU
97. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp) - Calen Bullock, S, USC
98. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Phi) (comp) - Christian Mahogany, IOL, Boston College
99. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp) - Jalyx Hunt, EDGE/LB, Houston Christian
100. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from SF) (comp) - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State

Round 4
101. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Jonah Elliss, EDGE, Utah
102. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Was) - Javon Foster, OT, Missouri
103. New England (Sean) - Cade Stover, TE/LB, Ohio State
104. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Cole Bishop, S, Utah
105. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - Matt Gonclaves, OT, Pittsburgh
106. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) - Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon
107. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Mekhi Wingo, IDL, LSU
108. Minnesota (Johnnyb) - Justin Eboigbe, IDL/EDGE, Alabama
109. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Kalen King, S/CB, Penn State
110. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Chi) - Johnny Wilson, WR/TE, Florida State
111. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) - DeWayne Carter, IDL/EDGE, Duke
112. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S/CB, Texas Tech
113. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (from NYJ, Den) - Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas
114. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) - Tanner McLachlan, TE, Arizona
115. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Delmar Glaze, OT/IOL, Maryland
116. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (from NO) - Javon Baker, WR, Central Florida
117. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
118. Seattle (sjnyfan) - McKinnley Jackson, IDL, Texas A&M
119. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) - Luke McCaffrey, WR, Rice
120. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Pit, LAR) - Ty'Ron Hopper, LB, Missouri
121. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Mia) - Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
122. Chicago (Anakim) (from Phi) - Myles Cole, EDGE/LB, Texas Tech
123. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Cle) - Dominick Puni, IOL/OT, Kansas
124. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Dal) - Jared Wiley, TE, TCU
125. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - On the clock
126. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
127. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
128. Buffalo (Uncledave)
129. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Det)
130. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
131. Kansas City (English Alaister)
132. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
133. Buffalo (Uncledave) (comp)
134. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) (from Bal) (comp)
135. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)

Round 5
136. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Car)
137. New England (Sean)
138. Arizona (DCPollaro)
139. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir)
140. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
141. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG)
142. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from Ten)
143. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
144. Buffalo (Uncledave) (from Chi)
145. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from NYJ)
146. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) (from Min)
147. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship)
148. Las Vegas (Amtoft)
149. Cincinnati (Matt G)
150. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels)
151. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
152. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea)
153. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax)
154. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
155. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (from Pit)
156. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) (from Phi)
157. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Cle)
158. Miami (Optimus-NY)
159. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Dal)
160. Buffalo (Uncledave) (from GB)
161. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Tampa)
162. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou)
163. Buffalo (Uncledave)
164. Detroit (superspynyg)
165. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
166. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Car, SF)
167. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from KC)
168. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (comp)
169. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp)
170. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (comp)
171. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
172. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
173. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
174. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp)
175. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (comp)
176. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)

In comment 16461353 MadPlaid said:

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In comment 16460769 Amtoft said: Quote: In comment 16460680 MadPlaid said: Quote: Hope you like it. Adding to the DL is a good thing. I read online about Wingo's commitment to his team and how he returned early from injury to play in the team's bowl game. That impressed me. I wanted that kind of character on the Giants. Hopefully, his talent proves worthy of the selection. Just when I think you can't make this draft any worse.... You go and totally redeem yourself! If you decided to watch LSU to see Daniels, Nabers, and Brian Thomas and it wasn't just highlights. Your probably saw Wingo wrecking shop with quickness. He has had some injuries, but high character and a leader. They give #18 out as something you have to earn. He is going to be a good fit in our def which if people didn't know is more 4-2-5 than anything. He will cause issues on the inside especially on passing downs. He shouldn't have made it this far. Thank you, Amtoft. I need to credit you on this one. Earlier you endorsed the DLinemen who were available, so I paid them more attention for my 3rd & 4th round picks. I was probably going to select Orhorhoro at 3, but he was gone, so I went with Brooks. Fortunately, Wingo was still available at 4. I’m happy how things have worked out. I’d like a do over in the 2nd though. Hey, I didn’t notice that the Giants have a long wait between their 4th & 5th round picks. This is where trades suck.

Just noticed that I get a chance to possibly snipe you in Round 5! :)

This is shaping up to be a nice draft of potential talent for the Texans!

Sweet! I was starting to feel left out.

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The 9ers were looking hard at Isaac coming up. We were hoping he'd be there in the 5th. Oh well

on th defensive side of the ball, time to add a piece to the offense. Not entirely convined Aaron Jones can stay healthy and not much behind him, Guerendo adds some size, speed and versatility to the RB position. And an above average blocker as well.

In comment 16461820 Pete from Woodstock said:

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The 9ers were looking hard at Isaac coming up. We were hoping he'd be there in the 5th. Oh well

Thank you Pete. We do not pick again until #157 and he was not going to last. His 4.33 speed alone makes him attractive.

Did not expect to see back to back players from Lousiville this late but so be it.

Looking at my top tier of remaining players, which still has a lot of names, WR was one of the shallower positions with only 2 guys still on the board (Thrash and a player who shall remain nameless until he is selected). Of the two I thought Thrash was the better bet to play outside at the NFL level as the other guy looked more like a slot guy so that was the direction I went. Would not be surprised if Rounds 5 and 6 and "UDFA" come form this same tier of players that, quite frankly, would be late Day 3 and UDFA types in most years.

Jets take a big slot to give Rodgers a weapon in the middle of the field and red zone

In comment 16461866 JayBinQueens said:

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Jets take a big slot to give Rodgers a weapon in the middle of the field and red zone

Yes, McMillan was the other WR that I had as a draftable grade in this year's draft. This really is a year that you want as many picks in the top half of Round 4 or higher as the pool after that is equivalent to late round/UDFA after that.

Please just send me an email with your number and I can do so... I have started doing with several members who check email less regularly and it seems to be working well...

I will make the offer again at the start of next year's draft

I had been holding out hope that Brennan Jackson might slide... He was my backup in RD4

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I had been holding out hope that Brennan Jackson might slide... He was my backup in RD4

He may not have the bend that scouts typically look for but has great size (6'4 267), plenty athletic enough (4.69 40yd with 1.62 split) and the guy just plays with his hair on fire... Uses a squick burst and a strong bull rush to get to the QB and make plays behind the LOS consistently (+12 TFLs in '22 and '23)... Similar size, athleticism and effort as another former draft sleeper, Maxx Crosby coming into the league... Team captain and seems like a great kid with the intangibles to succeed at the next level

"Plays as hard as anyone in the conference. I think coaches will like him just a little bit more than scouts will, and maybe they will be right." -- AFC national scout

Gus Edwards will be the workhorse, and 2022 bust Isaiah Spiller gets one more chance to show the new staff he belongs, but Davis fits the Austin Ekeler role better than either vet.

Davis is nearly two years older than Spiller. His age and ~850 college touches - across three programs - suggest some wear on the tires. Still, he played his best ball in 2023, with a breakout game against Florida, so the Bolts see him as good value in Round Five: a potential starter and a nice three-down insurance policy in case Edwards hits a wall at 29.

stays at home, joins the Panthers, and brings with him a porn stache and the crowd pleasing "Ship, Ship, Hooray" chant!

In comment 16461846 Mike in NY said:

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Did not expect to see back to back players from Lousiville this late but so be it. Looking at my top tier of remaining players, which still has a lot of names, WR was one of the shallower positions with only 2 guys still on the board (Thrash and a player who shall remain nameless until he is selected). Of the two I thought Thrash was the better bet to play outside at the NFL level as the other guy looked more like a slot guy so that was the direction I went. Would not be surprised if Rounds 5 and 6 and "UDFA" come form this same tier of players that, quite frankly, would be late Day 3 and UDFA types in most years.

I don't know... I thought the same thing it falls off. Not sure if just people are missing on the players I like, but I have two players I think are high 4th rounds and another 4-5 that are solid late 4th or early 5th. I am hoping to get two of them in my next two picks although I have had my 6th round pick lined up since before the draft.

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In comment 16462022 Matt G said: Quote: I had been holding out hope that Brennan Jackson might slide... He was my backup in RD4 He may not have the bend that scouts typically look for but has great size (6'4 267), plenty athletic enough (4.69 40yd with 1.62 split) and the guy just plays with his hair on fire... Uses a squick burst and a strong bull rush to get to the QB and make plays behind the LOS consistently (+12 TFLs in '22 and '23)... Similar size, athleticism and effort as another former draft sleeper, Maxx Crosby coming into the league... Team captain and seems like a great kid with the intangibles to succeed at the next level "Plays as hard as anyone in the conference. I think coaches will like him just a little bit more than scouts will, and maybe they will be right." -- AFC national scout

thanks! agree with all of that. I like my edge guys with some size and bulk to be factors stopping the run. Very active and physical, just lacking an explosive twitch. He's a very interesting prospect that feels similar to AJ Epenesa

teams evaluate and maybe bump up return specialists now that kickoff returns are back on the table.

That is one of the reasons I picked Smith for the Falcons a few picks ago

going to get one of the two players I have left from last round. Very excited.

You are up again

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going to get one of the two players I have left from last round. Very excited.

It happens like that sometimes. The Giants allegedly almost drafted Tiki Barber 7th overall in 1997 ahead of Ike Hilliard.

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You are up again

I had let me know that he would be back up again

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I had Booker ranked higher than Kamara and I just could not see doubling up at the EDGE position when I only had 2 WR's with draftable grades still on my board.

but he's gone. He would not have been the pick.

Selecting more offensive line help with a versatile interior offensive lineman that can play Center but will play at Guard for New Orleans. Saints have 3 more picks coming up soon.

In comment 16462512 Mr. Nickels said:

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Selecting more offensive line help with a versatile interior offensive lineman that can play Center but will play at Guard for New Orleans. Saints have 3 more picks coming up soon.

Dang it. He was at the top of my list for hoping he would be there at 165.

that run under 4.6 at the combine usually don't make it to the 5th round. I was ecstatic to see him there, but I figured as picks were coming or being close to being missed he would be picked or Autodrafted. He has been at the top of the GBN Big board forever and was auto drafted once already only to be put back in play. No way he makes it out of the 4th round and I would assume he is in play in the 3rd with how teams focus on getting after the QB. 13 sacks in 2023 with an additional 15 in the two previous seasons. Guys like this don't last, I though maybe he was arrested or injured and I kept looking for why he wasn't picked yet.

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In comment 16462512 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: Selecting more offensive line help with a versatile interior offensive lineman that can play Center but will play at Guard for New Orleans. Saints have 3 more picks coming up soon. Dang it. He was at the top of my list for hoping he would be there at 165.

I like hearing that after I make a pick haha

part about drafting Kamara is I love love love another player and I have to wait 57 more picks to see if he falls to me. I just have a feeling he won't though.

Apologies again for the wait yesterday.

Hoping i don't have to do some last minute scouting for my next lol.

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Apologies again for the wait yesterday.

Thanks GT... No worries at all

so we're double dipping here on a couple guys I really like. Both Brennan Jackson and Braiden McGregor are big physical ends that have shown ability to come off the edge with speed and power. Neither are sure things, but hopefully one of them hits

with the 2-fer...

Finally addressing interior DL with Tyler Davis, and adding the electric Tyrone Tracy at RB.

101. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) - Jonah Elliss, EDGE, Utah
102. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Was) - Javon Foster, OT, Missouri
103. New England (Sean) - Cade Stover, TE/LB, Ohio State
104. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Cole Bishop, S, Utah
105. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - Matt Gonclaves, OT, Pittsburgh
106. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) - Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon
107. New York Giants (MadPlaid) - Mekhi Wingo, IDL, LSU
108. Minnesota (Johnnyb) - Justin Eboigbe, IDL/EDGE, Alabama
109. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Kalen King, S/CB, Penn State
110. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) (from Chi) - Johnny Wilson, WR/TE, Florida State
111. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) - DeWayne Carter, IDL/EDGE, Duke
112. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S/CB, Texas Tech
113. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (from NYJ, Den) - Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas
114. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) - Tanner McLachlan, TE, Arizona
115. Cincinnati (Matt G) - Delmar Glaze, OT/IOL, Maryland
116. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (from NO) - Javon Baker, WR, Central Florida
117. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
118. Seattle (sjnyfan) - McKinnley Jackson, IDL, Texas A&M
119. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) - Luke McCaffrey, WR, Rice
120. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Pit, LAR) - Ty'Ron Hopper, LB, Missouri
121. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Mia) - Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
122. Chicago (Anakim) (from Phi) - Myles Cole, EDGE/LB, Texas Tech
123. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Cle) - Dominick Puni, IOL/OT, Kansas
124. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (from Dal) - Jared Wiley, TE, TCU
125. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) - Audric Estime, RB, Notre Dame
126. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) - Eric Watts, EDGE Connecticut
127. Houston (Boatie Warrant) - James Williams, LB/S, Miami
128. Buffalo (Uncledave) - Malik Washington, WR, Virginia
129. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Det) - Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville
130. Baltimore (Mike in NY) - Jamari Thrash, WR, Louisville
131. Kansas City (English Alaister) - Hunter Nourzad, IOL, Penn State
132. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp) - Elijah Jones, CB, Boston College
133. Buffalo (Uncledave) (comp) - Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame
134. New York Jets (JayBinQueens) (from Bal) (comp) - Jalen McMillan, WR, Washington
135. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) - Jaylan Ford, LB, Texas

Round 5
136. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Car) - Jaheim Bell, TE/FB, Florida State
137. New England (Sean) - Trevin Wallace, LB, Kentucky
138. Arizona (DCPollaro) - Joe Milton, QB, Tennessee
139. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) - Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State
140. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) - Ray Davis, RB, Kentucky
141. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG) - Will Shipley, RB, Clemson
142. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from Ten) - Nehemiah Pritchett, CB, Auburn
143. Atlanta (BigBlue7) - Ainias Smith, WR/RB, Texas A&M
144. Buffalo (Uncledave) (from Chi) - Tanor Bortolini, IOL, Wisconsin
145. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from NYJ) - Beau Brade, S/CB, Maryland
146. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) (from Min) - Gabe Hall, IDL/EDGE, Baylor
147. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) - Javion Cohen, IOL/OT, Miami
148. Las Vegas (Amtoft) - Mohamed Kamara, EDGE, Colorado State
149. Cincinnati (Matt G) - AJ Barner, TE, Michigan
150. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) - Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas
151. Indianapolis (Go Terps) - Nelson Caeser, EDGE, Houston
152. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Sea) - Braiden McGregor, EDGE, Michigan
153. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) - Jaylin Simpson, S/CB, Auburn
154. LA Rams (Allstarjim) - Tyler Davis, IDL, Clemson
155. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (from Pit) - Tyrone Tracy, RB, Purdue
156. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) (from Phi) - On the clock
157. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Cle)
158. Miami (Optimus-NY)
159. Kansas City (English Alaister) (from Dal)
160. Buffalo (Uncledave) (from GB)
161. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from Tampa)
162. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Hou)
163. Buffalo (Uncledave)
164. Detroit (superspynyg)
165. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
166. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Car, SF)
167. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from KC)
168. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (comp)
169. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp)
170. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (comp)
171. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
172. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
173. Kansas City (English Alaister) (comp)
174. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp)
175. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (comp)
176. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)

Round 6
177. Minnesota (Johnnyb) (from Car)
178. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce) (from Arz)
179. Seattle (sjnyfan) (from Was)
180. New England (Sean)
181. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger)
182. Tennessee (TommytheElephant)
183. New York Giants (MadPlaid)
184. Miami (Optimus-NY) (from Chi)
185. New York Jets (JayBinQueens)
186. Arizona (DCPollaro) (from Min)
187. Atlanta (BigBlue7)
188. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min, NE, LV)
189. Buffalo (Uncledave) (from LAR, Den)
190. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels)
191. Indianapolis (Go Terps)
192. Seattle (sjnyfan)
193. New England (Sean) (from Jax)
194. Cincinnati (Matt G)
195. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
196. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
197. Atlanta (BigBlue7) (from Cle)
198. Miami (Optimus-NY)
199. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (from Phi)
200. Buffalo (Uncledave) (from Dal, Hou)
201. Detroit (superspynyg) (from TB)
202. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
203. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from Cle, Hou)
204. Buffalo (Uncledave)
205. Detroit (superspynyg)
206. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS) (from Bal)
207. Denver (Jonesin 4 A Ship) (from SF)
208. Las Vegas (Amtoft) (from KC)
209. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
210. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (comp)
211. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
212. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) (comp)
213. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
214. Cincinnati (Matt G) (comp)
215. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock) (comp)
216. Dallas (Rick in Dallas) (comp)
217. LA Rams (Allstarjim) (comp)
218. Baltimore (Mike in NY) (from NYJ) (comp)
219. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (comp)
220. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island) (comp)

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Selecting more offensive line help with a versatile interior offensive lineman that can play Center but will play at Guard for New Orleans. Saints have 3 more picks coming up soon.

Limmer was right at the top of the Chargers' board. It's hard to assess their need at center, though. Corey Linsley is still hoping his heart condition can be managed to the point where he can return to the field. Meanwhile, Bradley Bozeman kind of fell into our laps on a vet-min qualifying deal, with the Panthers still paying him as a cap casualty. We were hoping to add Limmer or Hunter Nourzad as a near-term backup and longer-term starting center, but there were other, more urgent priorities to address.

Hampton provides impressive size and speed combination and was Washington's leading tackler last year. He is a bit undisciplined but we will leave that to the coaches.

Needed help on the interior D-Line. Got it at this late stage in the draft in Mississippi State DT Jaden Crumedy. He's experienced and is stout against the run. He's a man and will be 24 when the NFL season starts. Need aligns with value here.

of three 4th round picks, the Eagles continue to build in the trenches. We think Wallace can back up multiple positions on the line, and with our coaching we think he can develop into a plus starter.

5th round...

McCormick was going to be one of the Saints upcoming picks and was torn on Limmmer vs McCormick

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McCormick was going to be one of the Saints upcoming picks and was torn on Limmmer vs McCormick

Damn it, McCormick was my back-up and I thought he would slip through because of where he was ranked

Don't go snaking my guy, dang it all!

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Don't go snaking my guy, dang it all!

Good, you didn't. Give me a minute

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Don't go snaking my guy, dang it all!

MadPlaid, I couldn't help myself. Jim Harbaugh talked about how much he loved Keegan so John did him a solid when Limmer and McCormick got sniped.

made it this long. I think he will go much sooner when the actual draft rolls around. Getting him and Bortolini really helps our IOL. I think both them and Limmer/Coleman go much earlier in the real thing. All of them were steals as late as they went here.

I had two here I wanted to select and I couldn't make up my mind, so I flipped a coin. Almost went enny, meany, miney, moe. We are real sophisticated here at Giants central. So Javon Solomon, come on down! You are a new member of the NY Giants football team. Good for you.

I think that's a good high upside pick. He had a lot of sacks last year. Worth a shot for sure.

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I think that's a good high upside pick. He had a lot of sacks last year. Worth a shot for sure.

Thanks, Andy. That's what I was shooting for. Plus, I think he could be a good special teamer.

In comment 16463428 MadPlaid said:

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I had two here I wanted to select and I couldn't make up my mind, so I flipped a coin. Almost went enny, meany, miney, moe. We are real sophisticated here at Giants central. So Javon Solomon, come on down! You are a new member of the NY Giants football team. Good for you.

Apology accepted. With Round 6 I am debating whether or not I want to take someone so obscure that he did not even make the list of players or just wait until "UDFA" and take him as one of my five there.