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Schoen's draft strategy

Bramton1 : 4/10/2024 12:19 pm
I just want to point out how refreshing it is that the Giants' first pick isn't being telegraphed. Back when we had Gettleman, everyone apparently knew he wanted Barkley. It was common knowledge that the Giants wanted a WR in the first round in 2021, and that were weren't interested in Parsons, to the point that the Cowboys and the Eagles of all teams felt comfortable trading around us to get the guys they wanted.

Looking at this month's draft, I have seen mocks where we...
1. traded up
2. traded down
3. stayed put
4. drafted Daniels
5. drafted Maye
6. drafted McCarthy
7. drafted Penix
8. drafted Nix
9. drafted Harrison
10. drafted Nabers
11. drafted Odunze
12. drafted Alt
13. drafted Bowers

Anyone who says that know for sure what Schoen is going to do is lying, either to you or themselves. The only ones who know are at 1925 Giants Dr., East Rutherford, NJ.
Assembling their draft board  
JonC : 4/10/2024 12:22 pm : link
started recently, let's see what might leak out over the next two weeks.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/10/2024 12:26 pm : link
I miss the days where good ole Dave publicly said he wasn’t interested in trading out of the 2 pick.

I kid.
As for the plan  
JonC : 4/10/2024 12:27 pm : link
I don't think it's terribly difficult to figure it out ...
It will be one of  
Rjanyg : 4/10/2024 12:31 pm : link
Maye, McCarthy, Nabers or Odunze.
agree with JonC  
Dave on the UWS : 4/10/2024 12:32 pm : link
you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out. There have been SO many tea leaves, even someone not paying attention could figure it out.
Yeah, it seems pretty  
jvm52106 : 4/10/2024 12:32 pm : link
obvious we are interested in a QB. The question becomes where are we interested- if he falls to 6 or if we have to move up OR are we looking at a second tier guy- Nix, Penix later in 1 or top of 2.

Then it becomes, if our strategy above doesn't pan out (say we settled on QB at 6 if he is there), then do we stay at 6 and take the WR or move back and accumulate picks?

Right now I think we are looking at:

Maye- JJM for QB's (top 6 range- 6 or move up)

Nabers- Odunze- MHJ- WR's if our QB of choice (or both) are gone.

Outside of that ALT if we trade back some or Turner if we trade back some..
He values the draft and every pick but 7th Rd  
George from PA : 4/10/2024 12:36 pm : link
He is not afraid to make big moves.

He understands some positions are more important than others.

He locks up the best players at those positions.

He is firm how much he is willing to spend per position.

He hedges his bets.

He seems to know what others will do in draft.
All of the above is true …but is anyone really satisfied with what his  
Spider56 : 4/10/2024 12:57 pm : link
first 2 drafts have produced. I’m not.
RE: All of the above is true …but is anyone really satisfied with what his  
JonC : 4/10/2024 1:02 pm : link
In comment 16463475 Spider56 said:
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first 2 drafts have produced. I’m not.


Nein.
another silly post  
BleedBlue : 4/10/2024 1:13 pm : link
sorry, i dont usually jump on posters but this is getting nuts.


1. EVERYONE knows we are taking a QB or WR at 6... its barely an argument so

2. everyone knew we liked barkly but that too was obvious and not a lack of DG being able to hide it. we were picking second...everytone knew barkley was VERY possible.

3. for the most part teams have an understanding/idea of where a team may go with their pick. its common sense in a lot of instances.

4. BBI is very quick to blame a GM for a draft mistake. DG was bad, we get it, but lets not act like everyone else here isnt benefitting from hindsight...you absolutely are.

My guess for the plan  
Breeze_94 : 4/10/2024 1:22 pm : link
See how the first 3 picks play out. It a QB they like (my guess, Maye) is still on the board, see if the price is reasonable to move up and beat Minnesota to the punch.

If not, let the draft come to them at 6. Take Nabers, or Odunze if Nabers is gone.
Most  
Thegratefulhead : 4/10/2024 1:55 pm : link
Were very happy with Thibs and Neal. I preferred Cross to Neal but wanted an OL so no biggie. I don’t believe we know what QB the team prefers best. I believe the Patriots have a QB targeted, if he is there they stay in that spot, if gone I think NE will trade with us not Minnesota.

Bill doesn’t want future considerations, he wants to win NOW. I am pretty confident of that. I suspect Bill wants the most pro ready QB(JJ). I think JJ goes at 2 and ALL hell breaks loose with Maye and Daniels available at 3. I think our guy is gone and we pick a WR or Daniels at 6. Patriots select MHjr at 3.
RE: Most  
BleedBlue46 : 4/10/2024 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16463586 Thegratefulhead said:
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Were very happy with Thibs and Neal. I preferred Cross to Neal but wanted an OL so no biggie. I don’t believe we know what QB the team prefers best. I believe the Patriots have a QB targeted, if he is there they stay in that spot, if gone I think NE will trade with us not Minnesota.

Bill doesn’t want future considerations, he wants to win NOW. I am pretty confident of that. I suspect Bill wants the most pro ready QB(JJ). I think JJ goes at 2 and ALL hell breaks loose with Maye and Daniels available at 3. I think our guy is gone and we pick a WR or Daniels at 6. Patriots select MHjr at 3.


Daniels at 6 would have me doing cartwheels around the house, biggest yet lowest percentage dream for me.
RE: As for the plan  
Ron Johnson : 4/10/2024 2:58 pm : link
In comment 16463419 JonC said:
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I don't think it's terribly difficult to figure it out ...



what's the plan?
RE: another silly post  
KennyHill48 : 4/10/2024 3:02 pm : link
In comment 16463491 BleedBlue said:
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sorry, i dont usually jump on posters but this is getting nuts.


1. EVERYONE knows we are taking a QB or WR at 6... its barely an argument so

2. everyone knew we liked barkly but that too was obvious and not a lack of DG being able to hide it. we were picking second...everytone knew barkley was VERY possible.

3. for the most part teams have an understanding/idea of where a team may go with their pick. its common sense in a lot of instances.

4. BBI is very quick to blame a GM for a draft mistake. DG was bad, we get it, but lets not act like everyone else here isnt benefitting from hindsight...you absolutely are.


I hear where you are coming from, but I disagree re: the Barkley pick. This article from 2018 basically telegraphs not only that the Giants will take Barkley, but also explains why that's really the only option for them.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: As for the plan  
BleedBlue46 : 4/10/2024 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16463713 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 16463419 JonC said:


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I don't think it's terribly difficult to figure it out ...




what's the plan?


1. Get a qb you like
2. If not able to take WR at 6 unless you get a crazy trade offer to move down.
RE: another silly post  
giantstock : 4/11/2024 12:19 am : link
In comment 16463491 BleedBlue said:
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4. BBI is very quick to blame a GM for a draft mistake. DG was bad, we get it, but lets not act like everyone else here isnt benefitting from hindsight...you absolutely are.


And there is nothing wrong as a fan having hindsight.The GM is getting paid to be right - not the fan. If the GM isn't right then have him step aside for someone that will be.
 
christian : 4/11/2024 7:22 am : link
If Daniels, the consensus best or second best QB in the draft falls to get Giants, I will cry tears of a joy.
RE: RE: As for the plan  
JonC : 4/12/2024 10:50 am : link
In comment 16463713 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 16463419 JonC said:


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I don't think it's terribly difficult to figure it out ...




what's the plan?


Try to get their QB target, otherwise sit at #6 and grab a blue chip WR.
RE: …  
GFAN52 : 4/12/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16464379 christian said:
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If Daniels, the consensus best or second best QB in the draft falls to get Giants, I will cry tears of a joy.


Is Daniels the consensus best or second best QB, the odds makers flip flop on this every week.
RE: RE: …  
BleedBlue46 : 4/12/2024 1:14 pm : link
In comment 16466210 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 16464379 christian said:


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If Daniels, the consensus best or second best QB in the draft falls to get Giants, I will cry tears of a joy.



Is Daniels the consensus best or second best QB, the odds makers flip flop on this every week.


I think he is and I'd be right there with ya Christian!
Give me  
Carl in CT : 4/12/2024 1:59 pm : link
MHJR to do flops.
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