there have been a lot of football stats thrown around about the big 3 WRs, each with their own version of "the most ______ since Jamarr Chase" (explosive plays, tds, contested catches, etc).
here's something that's flying maybe a bit more under the radar - they are both equally freakish athletes as not just Chase but almost anyone in the last 2 decades other than Calvin Johnson.
below is a repost of a thread last year comparing Jalin Hyatt's track times in the 100m/200m to all the fastest players i could think of in the last decade. Well you can slot Rome Odunze's 10.67 100m and 21.25 200m right in there middle of the pack next to John Ross/CJ2K even thought he's generally thought of as a bigger receiver. nabers 200m was actually slower at 23.42 but that was also his time as a 15 or 16 year old since he's only 20 now.
100m
tyreek - 10.32
metcalf - 10.37
cj2k - 10.38
hyatt - 10.46
henry ruggs - 10.53
slayton - 10.56
john ross - 10.66
ODUNZE - 10.67
jameson williams - 10.68
waddle - 10.84
deonte banks - 10.96
desean - 11.05
200m
tyreek - 20.94
hyatt - 21.14
ODUNZE - 21.25
cj2k - 21.28
jameson williams - 21.23
john ross - 21.56
desean - 21.43
slayton - 22.57
deonte banks - 22.44 |
and reminder these aren't just fast guys running by people, they had 2 of the lowest drop rates in all CFB last year despite their heavy targets and all the attention they received.
i am all for a QB if they can get one but would only be slightly less enthused adding either of these unicorns to hyatt, slayton, robinson for the next 2-5 years (all except slayton still on their rookie deals). with speed like that every super market clerk in america is lining up to try out. WR and EDGE are by a good margin trending to be the 2 most expensive positions other than QB and in one offseason each position group could be transformed among the best in the nfl.
Hyatt and W.Robinson are nice complimentary pieces....
Adding a stud....I suspect MHJ will show similar....as I still believe he is even better...
My aunt would have pretty decent QB stats....throwing to these guys.
Again, if the OL show improvement to be aleast a competent NFL OL.
Joe Alt
He will start at either tackle spot early in his career and is set up to be a key player for a long time at a premium position.
Giants need a QB, no matter what, Schoen got himself in this spot by loving Barkley and not franchising Jones. Amazing how much destruction our idiot GM and owner's love with Barkley has caused.
If the gIants take a useless WR he will be Thomas Lewis. The WR will have no QB throwing to him, a new coach in year 2, and oh, the fans unlike with Barkley are going to boo every pass he does not catch, and rightfully so.
Joe Alt
He will start at either tackle spot early in his career and is set up to be a key player for a long time at a premium position.
You wanna draft a Left Tackle at 6 overall and move him to right tackle? A position he has NEVER played. Andrew Thomas is here on a long term contract, drafting Joe Alt makes zero sense. I understand how great of a prospect he is but I just don’t see it
Joe Alt
He will start at either tackle spot early in his career and is set up to be a key player for a long time at a premium position.
How many more #1s do you want to use on the oline. Besides Fashanu would appear to be the better choice.
And I really think Rome is better anyway
Now we have to decide which dupe he is....
Joe Alt
He will start at either tackle spot early in his career and is set up to be a key player for a long time at a premium position.
I would expect them to be considerably better considering we added two quality starters via FA and JMS was a rookie last year. We need to add an another O line player it can happen in the mid rounds like the Third
I totally agree Reese with your OL comment. They will need to address that as well but a elite WR can help the OL and running game. I am not in favor of building one of those 5k
pass yardage teams that gets stomped in the playoffs because they are weak up front.
Joe Alt
He will start at either tackle spot early in his career and is set up to be a key player for a long time at a premium position.
One person doesnt fine a LINE..
The Giants have already addressed the OL in free agency
One WR can really open up an offense. One WR can change the running game. One WR can change how defenses have to adjust and defend you.
Giants need a QB, no matter what, Schoen got himself in this spot by loving Barkley and not franchising Jones. Amazing how much destruction our idiot GM and owner's love with Barkley has caused.
If the gIants take a useless WR he will be Thomas Lewis. The WR will have no QB throwing to him, a new coach in year 2, and oh, the fans unlike with Barkley are going to boo every pass he does not catch, and rightfully so.
Giants need a QB, no matter what, Schoen got himself in this spot by loving Barkley and not franchising Jones. Amazing how much destruction our idiot GM and owner's love with Barkley has caused.
If the gIants take a useless WR he will be Thomas Lewis. The WR will have no QB throwing to him, a new coach in year 2, and oh, the fans unlike with Barkley are going to boo every pass he does not catch, and rightfully so.
You're a special one aren't you...
Joe Alt
He will start at either tackle spot early in his career and is set up to be a key player for a long time at a premium position.
the giants biggest OL issues last year were the IOL. not sure how a rookie OT changing positions solves that (and i would be fine with the Alt pick or any OL if they think he's the next zack martin or quentin nelson - have you seen that indicated anywhere?).
agreed. true unicorn and HOF talent/player. one of the rare true blue chip/cant miss/gold jacket draft picks.
thinking about the last couple decades myles garrett was probably another one (non-qbs).
i think this is all from his pro day, i assume it's decent data but probably more variance than combine where everything is apples/apples. just searched and originally his unofficial times were actually all better:
im not really worried about how he tests at anything specifically, his jumps back up the explosion clearly visible on tape. no way to fake a 42 inch vert.
also being just 20 years old, from a much smaller high school and lower profile recruit than a lot of top prospects, i think he is probably a far less polished player at just about everything (including testing). players who went to football factory HS's like IMG have been getting ready for the combine since then.
wish we could but i dont believe he has tested in anything. sat out combine and pro day.
Throw in chemistry to boot. That offense could start like it had been playing together already. I would be excited.
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Both of these guys will be horrible worse than Barkley picks. Busts.
Giants need a QB, no matter what, Schoen got himself in this spot by loving Barkley and not franchising Jones. Amazing how much destruction our idiot GM and owner's love with Barkley has caused.
If the gIants take a useless WR he will be Thomas Lewis. The WR will have no QB throwing to him, a new coach in year 2, and oh, the fans unlike with Barkley are going to boo every pass he does not catch, and rightfully so.
Again, fucking moronic. WRs inherently are more impactful than RBs. I want a QB also but nothing suggests either of these WRs will be busts. A top flight WR can absolutely change an offense. If we aren't going to get a franchise changing QB, you grab the WR now. You're gonna need one for the new QB anyway, and WRs aren't like RBs where you can snag one in the third and get starter production.
WR >> RB. Sure.
But WR without a QB, nope, it's a waste.
Even if the guy is not Thomas Lewis, he will just be Odell Beckham redux. Nice stats, a few extra wins to get us out of the top 10, and inevitably he will be a frustrated diva when he has worthless Jones throwing him 8 yard screens.
Nabers, Odunze = Busts = Thomas Lewis = hover’s genius
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What?!
Nabers, Odunze = Busts = Thomas Lewis = hover’s genius
WR with Daniel Dave Brown Jones at QB will be either Thomas Lewis or a frustrated OBJ type at having some idiot unable to throw beyond 10 yards.
Sorry, this team needs a QB at all costs.
Yes, a FRANCHISE QB is the most important position in sports. But drafting the 4th best in the draft at the sixth pick is less than ideal. Unless he is your #1 or 2 rated QB that you are convinced is your franchise payer.
This teama ismore than on eplayer away regardless of position.
Draft a player who will start the next five years in each of the first few rounds. KISS. I don't care what position, just get good players.
"My aunt would have pretty decent QB stats....throwing to these guys."
Yes, but would DJ?
yep - born july 28, 2003 so turns 21.
MHJ turns 22 in August.
Odunze turns 22 in June.
so 1 year younger than the other 2. was 18 as a frosh, 19 as a soph, 20 as a junior.
i think odunze is my favorite because he has no flaws and i like his play style. he checks every box. but all 3 are elite prospects with sky high upside, and it's possible nabers has the highest upside of the 3.