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I Love Clams Casino : 4/11/2024 10:36 am
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To summarize  
NINEster : 4/11/2024 11:35 am : link
I believe OJ murdered those two, but was absolutely not alone at the scene.
Not soon enough  
averagejoe : 4/11/2024 11:36 am : link
Good riddance to bad trash
RE: RE: RE: Any death  
KDavies : 4/11/2024 11:37 am : link
In comment 16464835 NINEster said:
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bed confessions? When you know you're going, like he probably did, if you are ever going to get things right with your maker, that's the time to do it.



To be fair he already wrote a gross book where he all but confessed.



I remember Opie & Anthony with Jim Norton reviewing the chapter where the murder takes place and saying "My God either OJ is an amazing writer or this is exactly what happened!", LOL.

I read it too and got the same conclusion.

What I did find interesting is that it seemed to corroborate a theory I was told by an LA lawyer associate who was practicing at the time of the murder who mentioned to me things that never really got into the public eye.

He said there had been a warrant out for the arrest of OJ's son Jason, but then that was quickly retracted for some reason. The idea that was pervasive among those in his circle was that this was a two person operation, where one did the killing and/or the clean up....

It would appear based on the knowledge we have of the case that very likely that would've been an accomplice who disposed of the murder weapon (which was never found despite a super thorough search in LA and Chicago) at the very minimum, possibly clothes as well. There exists the very possibility OJ didn't kill these two people but was witness to it.

The book references this accomplice as "Charlie", and thus to me confirms the theory.

What most people never seemed to dispute in all this, was that the timeframe from the murder to OJ's flight departure all happened in under a 90 minute time frame, possibly closer to 70-75 minutes. That's an insane window to perform something like this in and still make it to the airport on time. Granted it was 1994 and not modern day where such would be impossible maybe (flying commercial at least), but nobody seemed to really give credence to the fact that a non contract killer could do such a thing by himself, go home, shower, and get to the airport in time.

The two person theory would help this substantially, and as my friend said "The defense team knew this and used it in court". Had it been framed as a two person murder and not one, it likely could've had a stronger case for conviction.

There was so much DNA evidence plus the Bruno Magli shoes, and the Bronco chase......circumstantially, OJ was guilty AF.....but only of being responsible, not necessarily the actual killer.

And that's a nuance that to me helps hold up his "innocence" in the actual charges that were brought to him.


If it was a two person operation, he would still be guilty of the murder charges. Please don't tell me you don't realize that...
It's too bad that this happened before CSI and forensics went  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2024 11:40 am : link
mainstream. I think he'd have been convicted now because DNA evidence is so more commonly understood.
.  
MOOPS : 4/11/2024 11:41 am : link
NFL Network airing the Broncos/Panthers Super Bowl.  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2024 11:42 am : link
instead of touching this one.
They may not have been able to prove it beyond a reasonable  
Rudy5757 : 4/11/2024 11:47 am : link
doubt but OJ killed those 2 in a violent fashion. He is a POS.
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eugibs : 4/11/2024 11:52 am : link
In comment 16464824 SomeFan said:
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Darden having OJ try on the glove…probably one of the biggest fuck up decisions in legal history.

the problem was that he had him try on the fucking glove with a white cotton glove already on! This is because he used the actual glove. He should have gotten an exact replica of the glove and have him try that one on without the white glove or not tried that maneuver at all!


None of it mattered. That jury was going to acquit him no matter what and some of the jurors have subsequently said as much. Once the trial became about race, there was nothing the prosecution could do. Yes, it was not the first or last time we have effectively had jury nullification of the law. But that's what it was.
I never knew about the concept...  
bw in dc : 4/11/2024 11:53 am : link
of jury nullification until this trial.

Simpson was a monster who avoided spending the rest of his life in prison because that jury ignored the obvious facts and made an emotional decision to make a point.

from the Babylonbee.com:  
Victor in CT : 4/11/2024 12:19 pm : link
Hilarious. My favorite "news" source
Police Slowly Escort White Hearse Containing O.J. Simpson - ( New Window )
Still think his son  
ajr2456 : 4/11/2024 12:21 pm : link
Did it
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Del Shofner : 4/11/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16464711 Greg from LI said:
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I, for one, will never forget every moment of Friday June 17, 1994.



I remember being pissed that NBC kept putting the Knicks-Rockets game in a little window at the top of the screen so that we could see the Bronco being slowly chased around LA


The World Cup was on that day too. I was at a client's trading room in Connecticut with multiple TVs going. It was pretty wild.
Maybe Al Cowlings  
giantsFC : 4/11/2024 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16464715 bceagle05 said:
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can lead the funeral procession in a white Bronco.


LOL. So many great lines but this one is my fave on here
He got what he deserved in the end  
56goat : 4/11/2024 12:46 pm : link
Karmas a bitch.
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mfjmfj : 4/11/2024 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16464700 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I, for one, will never forget every moment of Friday June 17, 1994.


I was at my 5 year college reunion and they kept interupting the Knicks game for the stupid f-ing Bronco.
RE: If OJ taped an actual confession  
FStubbs : 4/11/2024 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16464812 bceagle05 said:
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and it was posted posthumously on social media, it really would “break the internet.” His goddaughter Kim Kardashian would be insanely jealous.


Goddaughter or daughter?
If CTE truly is a reason for irrational behavior patterns in humans  
giantsFC : 4/11/2024 1:03 pm : link
Then I have to imagine if any football player suffered from the extremes of it, it has to be a running back from the most dangerous era.

It would explain a lot of his actions from later 90’s and onward.

Or humans just do what they want and we just grasp for excuses.
Where's  
Semipro Lineman : 4/11/2024 1:04 pm : link
Mudbear when we need him?
RE: RE: RE: Any death  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2024 1:05 pm : link
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What most people never seemed to dispute in all this, was that the timeframe from the murder to OJ's flight departure all happened in under a 90 minute time frame, possibly closer to 70-75 minutes. That's an insane window to perform something like this in and still make it to the airport on time. Granted it was 1994 and not modern day where such would be impossible maybe (flying commercial at least), but nobody seemed to really give credence to the fact that a non contract killer could do such a thing by himself, go home, shower, and get to the airport in time.


It is incredible how efficient he was with his time, but two things to keep in mind:

1) He didn’t know Ron Goldman would be there, so he was planning to only kill Nicole.

2) He cost himself time by going to McDonald’s with Kato Kaelin - the prosecution believed he had no intention of going there, he just told Kato so there’d be an alibi. Idiot Kato invited himself to join, so the two of them went. He also took his Bentley to McDonald’s, not his Bronco - presumably because the Bronco had the knife and change of clothes in it.
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bceagle05 : 4/11/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16465081 FStubbs said:
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and it was posted posthumously on social media, it really would “break the internet.” His goddaughter Kim Kardashian would be insanely jealous.



Goddaughter or daughter?

Ha! Good question. Maybe he confessed to that too.
RE: He got what he deserved in the end  
SirLoinOfBeef : 4/11/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16465051 56goat said:
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Karmas a bitch.


We're all going to get that.

..  
Heisenberg : 4/11/2024 1:23 pm : link
pretty crazy  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/11/2024 1:24 pm : link
how the OJ Trial had bigger TV Ratings than 9/11.

Just an incredibly interesting life he lived.

Michael B. Jordan probably has a a script ready to go lol.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Any death  
NINEster : 4/11/2024 1:30 pm : link
In comment 16464849 KDavies said:
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bed confessions? When you know you're going, like he probably did, if you are ever going to get things right with your maker, that's the time to do it.



To be fair he already wrote a gross book where he all but confessed.



I remember Opie & Anthony with Jim Norton reviewing the chapter where the murder takes place and saying "My God either OJ is an amazing writer or this is exactly what happened!", LOL.

I read it too and got the same conclusion.

What I did find interesting is that it seemed to corroborate a theory I was told by an LA lawyer associate who was practicing at the time of the murder who mentioned to me things that never really got into the public eye.

He said there had been a warrant out for the arrest of OJ's son Jason, but then that was quickly retracted for some reason. The idea that was pervasive among those in his circle was that this was a two person operation, where one did the killing and/or the clean up....

It would appear based on the knowledge we have of the case that very likely that would've been an accomplice who disposed of the murder weapon (which was never found despite a super thorough search in LA and Chicago) at the very minimum, possibly clothes as well. There exists the very possibility OJ didn't kill these two people but was witness to it.

The book references this accomplice as "Charlie", and thus to me confirms the theory.

What most people never seemed to dispute in all this, was that the timeframe from the murder to OJ's flight departure all happened in under a 90 minute time frame, possibly closer to 70-75 minutes. That's an insane window to perform something like this in and still make it to the airport on time. Granted it was 1994 and not modern day where such would be impossible maybe (flying commercial at least), but nobody seemed to really give credence to the fact that a non contract killer could do such a thing by himself, go home, shower, and get to the airport in time.

The two person theory would help this substantially, and as my friend said "The defense team knew this and used it in court". Had it been framed as a two person murder and not one, it likely could've had a stronger case for conviction.

There was so much DNA evidence plus the Bruno Magli shoes, and the Bronco chase......circumstantially, OJ was guilty AF.....but only of being responsible, not necessarily the actual killer.

And that's a nuance that to me helps hold up his "innocence" in the actual charges that were brought to him.



If it was a two person operation, he would still be guilty of the murder charges. Please don't tell me you don't realize that...


I agree, but since the prosecution (or most of the public for that matter) never saw it that way, they couldn't frame the argument well enough, or to an extent where the Furhman angle shouldn't have mattered.

They were under the assumption it was a one person operation the entire time.

I mean even the choice of word that OJ used to find "the real killerS", plural, can't be accidental IMO.
RE: from the Babylonbee.com:  
NINEster : 4/11/2024 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16464995 Victor in CT said:
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Hilarious. My favorite "news" source Police Slowly Escort White Hearse Containing O.J. Simpson - ( New Window )


The Bronco hearse.....damn, those guys never disappoint, haha.
RE: pretty crazy  
NINEster : 4/11/2024 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16465127 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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how the OJ Trial had bigger TV Ratings than 9/11.

Just an incredibly interesting life he lived.

Michael B. Jordan probably has a a script ready to go lol.


Who here saw the verdict live?

I was a junior at Bronx Science, and saw it in one of the science lab TVs with maybe another 20-30 people huddled around. I believe I was lucky to have a free period during the verdict announcement, but I know a lot of other students saw it live at various locations around the school, which is surreal to think about nearly 30 years later.

I agree, it was wild how popular that trial was. And truth be told, OJ was well known and popular, but he wasn't quite the megastar you'd think he would have to be to receive similar treatment today.

If Ron Goldman had not shown up  
Sky King : 4/11/2024 1:43 pm : link
There would have been no murders. He's the key.
RE: If Ron Goldman had not shown up  
Semipro Lineman : 4/11/2024 1:45 pm : link
In comment 16465155 Sky King said:
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There would have been no murders. He's the key.


Only the true Sky King above all other Sky Kings would know this

/nods head
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/11/2024 1:47 pm : link
I was a sophomore in high school. They wheeled the TVs in.

What I remember-besides being bewildered that he was going to walk-was how different the reaction was amongst races.
My brother was engaged at the time, he left his fiance' because she  
Chef : 4/11/2024 2:03 pm : link
thought OJ was innocent. Finally realized how dumb she was.
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Cap'n Bluebeard : 4/11/2024 2:11 pm : link
In comment 16465166 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I was a sophomore in high school. They wheeled the TVs in.

What I remember-besides being bewildered that he was going to walk-was how different the reaction was amongst races.


I was a sophomore in Geometry class. They actually stopped class to make a school-wide announcement over the loudspeaker. I lived in a pretty diverse area of Central Jersey (Old Bridge) and it was definitely odd to see a not insignificant number of people celebrating an obviously guilty person evade justice.
RE: RE: pretty crazy  
Greg from LI : 4/11/2024 2:30 pm : link
In comment 16465146 NINEster said:
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Who here saw the verdict live?


I watched it live with my roommates
RE: RE: RE: pretty crazy  
PatersonPlank : 4/11/2024 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16465258 Greg from LI said:
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Who here saw the verdict live?



I watched it live with my roommates


I was at work. Everyone stopped and ran to the conference room where we watch the slow moving Bronco chase on our big TV/SCreen
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/11/2024 2:36 pm : link
I forget her name, but I will always too remember hearing the Goldman sister wailing as the verdict was read.
Anyone else buy OJ's Legal Pad?  
Greg from LI : 4/11/2024 2:37 pm : link

It was pretty funny
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Greg from LI : 4/11/2024 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16465274 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I forget her name, but I will always too remember hearing the Goldman sister wailing as the verdict was read.


Kim
Obviously his scumbag acts overshadowed his NFL career  
PatersonPlank : 4/11/2024 2:46 pm : link
But between the lines of an NFL field, he was arguably the best RB I ever saw (I don't remember watching Jim Brown). His 2,000 yds in 14 games in 1973 was amazing, and he created stars out of his OL. They were nicknamed the Electric Company.
I actually follow Kim Goldman a bit on social media.  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2024 2:47 pm : link
She’s a huge sports fan (Chicago teams) and has a son who plays college basketball at a small school somewhere. She does a lot of advocacy work for victims of crimes, not surprisingly. No word from her today on social media.
First time they went  
Blueworm : 4/11/2024 2:47 pm : link
With two screens during the NBA finals, I think.

As 20 year olds, we were disappointed that the slow chase did not end with gunfire.
RE: RE: Yes, it was If I Did It  
81_Great_Dane : 4/11/2024 3:47 pm : link
In comment 16464797 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Then the rights to the book were awarded to the Goldmans as part of the judgment in their civil suit, and they had the book reprinted with "if" in tiny letters





What a disgusting human being.

And it’s crazy how much OJ was loved prior to June ‘94. I thought he was a horrific broadcaster for NBC, but people loved him from the Hertz commercials and The Naked Gun movies.
So a few years ago my wife and I were watching the documentary "OJ: Made in America," which is excellent by the way, and my wife says "Oh, there's our landlord."

WHAT???

"Yeah, that's Fred, our landlord."

The doc includes an interview with the director of the Hertz commercials where OJ ran through airports. He was pretty interesting, basically talking about how the goal was to make OJ be not-Black. Anysay, he used the money he made directing commercials to invest in Los Angeles real estate. He owned the building we lived in. He'd park in the space across from mine and we'd see him occasionally. He has since passed away and the building was sold, but yup, that was Fred.
And Baba Booey to y'all.  
St. Jimmy : 4/11/2024 4:03 pm : link
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RE: It's a damn shame Norm isn't around  
Mattman : 4/11/2024 4:06 pm : link
In comment 16464823 widmerseyebrow said:
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Cancer tied with Norm but it beat OJ
......  
Route 9 : 4/11/2024 4:21 pm : link
Great thread, BBI. Love it lol
I remember being in work...  
BillKo : 4/11/2024 4:41 pm : link
...had to be the afternoon when the verdict came back.

Nobody had the Internet in work and there were no smart phones, etc.

I remember a girl getting off the phone and saying he was innocent.......and we were like "WTF"........

RE: I remember being in work...  
KDavies : 4/11/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16465491 BillKo said:
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...had to be the afternoon when the verdict came back.

Nobody had the Internet in work and there were no smart phones, etc.

I remember a girl getting off the phone and saying he was innocent.......and we were like "WTF"........


He was never found "innocent." He was found not guilty criminally and civilly liable
Thanks for the Khardashians 🙄  
Steve L : 4/11/2024 5:45 pm : link
RIP
I’m not gonna share any Oj jokes today it’s not appropriate  
capone : 4/11/2024 9:21 pm : link
But I’ll take a stab at it tomorrow
OJ was one of my childhood football heroes..  
DefenseWins : 4/11/2024 9:23 pm : link
and there was a story I read about how when he was 16 yrs old, he met Jim Brown in a milk shake shop in San Fran when the Browns were out there.

He walked up to Jim Brown and told him that he was going to break his rushing records one day.

Now about the murders..
I have always suspected his son because there was some inconsistencies with the DNA evidence. I thought his son did it and OJ was covering it up.

At the scene, there were bloody footprints going to where his car was supposedly parked, but his car mats had no blood. Only just a small spot on the door and another small spot inside. With the amount of blood involved, there would have been more blood in his car. I felt he or someone just opened the door to get something but never went inside.

Next, the police said they found a bowl of UNMELTED ice cream on the counter/table inside of Nicole's house. With the amount of time that had passed, there is no way for that to be possible if the ice cream belonged to her.

He had something to do with this, but the police and DA completely screwed up.
Little known fact  
bradshaw44 : 4/11/2024 11:09 pm : link
OJ was actually cast as the terminator before Arnold. I can’t remember what happened but he got taken off the role for some reason.
RE: Little known fact  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2024 11:18 pm : link
In comment 16465947 bradshaw44 said:
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OJ was actually cast as the terminator before Arnold. I can’t remember what happened but he got taken off the role for some reason.

I’m pretty sure it’s because they didn’t think he was believable as a killer. Ironic.
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