Giants are signing veteran free agent DT Jordan Phillips

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Buffalo South. Reminds me of the NJ Broncos with Reeves.

Saquan! ;)

Phillips is a BIG boy. He was a load at Oklahoma. I remember he had a fantastic year a few years ago. He had like 8-11 sacks, IIRC, which for a NT is extremely impressive.

Not bad. IDK where he is in his career now, but at the very least it's quality depth.

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Jordan Phillips might have played his final snap with the Buffalo Bills and in the NFL. Phillips, 31, has had a history of injuries during his career. His season ended in December after he was placed on injured reserve following wrist surgery. During locker cleanout day, Phillips told reporters including the Buffalo News that he’s considering retiring from football

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Last year, FWIW. But a much needed depth piece on the DL, assuming he has something left in the tank.

I noticed they’ve been light on DL visits on the top 30 - save for a late round guy Boyd. I did see Maason Smith was in for a visit, though it doesn’t seem to be reported anywhere. Linked the tweet where I saw that..
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he played about 1/3 snaps there which is the exact right amount to backup dex.

have been suggesting/expecting a few of him, hyde, lawson, dane jackson, etc from BUF. all should be under comp pick threshold and would have solid roles here.

really like the way Schoen has generally attacked depth signings.

In comment 16465309 Burt64 said:

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Quote: Jordan Phillips might have played his final snap with the Buffalo Bills and in the NFL. Phillips, 31, has had a history of injuries during his career. His season ended in December after he was placed on injured reserve following wrist surgery. During locker cleanout day, Phillips told reporters including the Buffalo News that he’s considering retiring from football Link - ( New Window )

There ya go. I'm guessing we signed him for the VSB and if he doesn't make the team, he'll hang 'em up.

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Was a 2nd round pick who at one point signed a 30 mil/3 year del with Miami.

Last year signed with the Bills for 3 mil

Seems - like Nunes-Roches- is a run specialist who can rotate in. Dex, Nunes-Roches, Phillips, DJ and Riley - and maybe a draft pick if it's an upgrade

Good signing.

To have experienced bodies inside competing. He isn't a lock to make the team but he could surprise in camp. If not, you have two good young boys in Davidson and Riley.

Still need one of these more pass rushing quick DTs in round 2/3.

How them apples tasting, Mbavaro?

Only kidding (sorta).
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It’s a glaring need on defense.

In comment 16465313 Eric on Li said:

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he played about 1/3 snaps there which is the exact right amount to backup dex. have been suggesting/expecting a few of him, hyde, lawson, dane jackson, etc from BUF. all should be under comp pick threshold and would have solid roles here. really like the way Schoen has generally attacked depth signings.

He's done very nicely. Would be nice if Phillips can replace Robinson

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Smart signing by #Giants. I'd expect a similar move at CB, either before or soon after the draft.

In comment 16465360 Eric from BBI said:

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Ryan Dunleavy @rydunleavy · 18m Smart signing by #Giants. I'd expect a similar move at CB, either before or soon after the draft.

Gonna go out on a limb and say Levi Wallace

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Jordan Phillips
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William Gholston
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He has a sitting offer.

In comment 16465376 BLUATHRT said:

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He has a sitting offer.

standing offer?

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Chandon Sullivan
Fabian Moreau
Jerry Jacobs

In comment 16465376 BLUATHRT said:

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He has a sitting offer.

Whoa! Interesting. He didn’t have a great season, but I do think he’s a little undervalued. I would really like that movie.

In comment 16465307 Pete from Woodstock said:

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Saquan! ;)

iirc, Phillips was the one jawing with the Philly fan after BUF@PHI last year. Safe to say he already has a distaste for that fan base? He should fit right in lol

In comment 16465379 gersh said:

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In comment 16465376 BLUATHRT said: Quote: He has a sitting offer. standing offer? Best Remaining Cornerback Free Agents, 2024: Xavien Howard Adoree’ Jackson Stephon Gilmore Steven Nelson Patrick Peterson J.C. Jackson Rock Ya-Sin Levi Wallace Ahkello Witherspoon Keion Crossen Tre Herndon Eli Apple Chandon Sullivan Fabian Moreau Jerry Jacobs

Sitting. It can change based off what they do before he decides.

In comment 16465304 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Buffalo South. Reminds me of the NJ Broncos with Reeves.

Yeah, but that wasn't exactly inspiring.

I haven't heard his name in a few years!

That's an abysmal PFF rating, anyone watch him closely enough to have an opinion?

In comment 16465404 christian said:

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I haven't heard his name in a few years! That's an abysmal PFF rating, anyone watch him closely enough to have an opinion?

i remember him making a few impressive plays in one of their national games. 1 was an unfortunate facemask or something like that, but the actual play he made was really impressive.

in whatever game it was i remember specifically thinking that he did a good job making himself into a decent role player after originally being considered a bust.

he had 3 hurries and a sack against cincy on SNF so im thinking that may have been it.

but grabbed facemask.

but as he was bringing baker down his hand slipped up to facemask. he played 32 snaps and got the start in the game.
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I know he had the huge season in Buffalo later, but my enduring memory is him losing his shit on the sideline and getting cut the next day.

I'm surprised to see the Giant add another nose tackle and not a 3 tech type.

I think this is a solid signing. Bills fan I know said this guy loves the game, very passionate.

In comment 16465431 christian said:

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I know he had the huge season in Buffalo later, but my enduring memory is him losing his shit on the sideline and getting cut the next day. I'm surprised to see the Giant add another nose tackle and not a 3 tech type.

each of these rows are the last 5 seasons (most recent on the top) - his alignments have been pretty diverse. I think this is a likely Ashawn replacement (he played 226 snaps in b gap last year, 200 over tackle, just 5 A gap).

after playing mostly B gap the 3 years prior.

depth signing. Let him come to camp and compete. As someone said, it's likely a VSB contract.

what I've read, as Eric points out, he's played both NT and 3-technique.

Right now, if we were playing a game tomorrow, he probably starts.

Got it! Thanks for those breaks downs.

In comment 16465304 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Buffalo South. Reminds me of the NJ Broncos with Reeves.

Yup, moving closer and closer to the mid 90’s Giants. Solid defense, crap offense.

In comment 16465310 Breeze_94 said:

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Last year, FWIW. But a much needed depth piece on the DL, assuming he has something left in the tank. I noticed they’ve been light on DL visits on the top 30 - save for a late round guy Boyd. I did see Maason Smith was in for a visit, though it doesn’t seem to be reported anywhere. Linked the tweet where I saw that.. Link - ( New Window )

That's very interesting about Maason Smith. He's a massive human being and a good athlete. He's a guy I could see us taking a chance on in the 4th-5th round. Think he'd be used as a DE in our current scheme. Think he ends up being a better pro than college player. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he ended up turning into a Justin Smith (Former 49er DE) type player.

I think this signing makes that less slightly urgent — but only slightly. He looks like a part-time player at best at this stage of his career. They need a replacement for Leonard WIlliams.

Or, at least, they would have if they'd kept Wink. I don't know what the new guy will do.

In comment 16465505 81_Great_Dane said:

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I think this signing makes that less slightly urgent — but only slightly. He looks like a part-time player at best at this stage of his career. They need a replacement for Leonard WIlliams. Or, at least, they would have if they'd kept Wink. I don't know what the new guy will do.

Judging by Bowen's defense I would still place a quicker 3-Tech high on the priorities list for Day 2.

In comment 16465505 81_Great_Dane said:

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I think this signing makes that less slightly urgent — but only slightly. He looks like a part-time player at best at this stage of his career. They need a replacement for Leonard WIlliams. Or, at least, they would have if they'd kept Wink. I don't know what the new guy will do.

This doesn't impact the draft.

In comment 16465384 BLUATHRT said:

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In comment 16465379 gersh said: Quote: In comment 16465376 BLUATHRT said: Quote: He has a sitting offer. standing offer? Best Remaining Cornerback Free Agents, 2024: Xavien Howard Adoree’ Jackson Stephon Gilmore Steven Nelson Patrick Peterson J.C. Jackson Rock Ya-Sin Levi Wallace Ahkello Witherspoon Keion Crossen Tre Herndon Eli Apple Chandon Sullivan Fabian Moreau Jerry Jacobs Sitting. It can change based off what they do before he decides.

Seriously?! Surely we can do better than Adoree. He mailed it in and made a bunch of business decisions last year. Not sure how you win with him starting at CB.

In comment 16465547 FranknWeezer said:

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In comment 16465384 BLUATHRT said: Quote: In comment 16465379 gersh said: Quote: In comment 16465376 BLUATHRT said: Quote: He has a sitting offer. standing offer? Best Remaining Cornerback Free Agents, 2024: Xavien Howard Adoree’ Jackson Stephon Gilmore Steven Nelson Patrick Peterson J.C. Jackson Rock Ya-Sin Levi Wallace Ahkello Witherspoon Keion Crossen Tre Herndon Eli Apple Chandon Sullivan Fabian Moreau Jerry Jacobs Sitting. It can change based off what they do before he decides. Seriously?! Surely we can do better than Adoree. He mailed it in and made a bunch of business decisions last year. Not sure how you win with him starting at CB.

Is there a former first rounder, that’s still only 28, who has proven to be very good available right now? Who’s starting opposite Banks? A one year deal at a reasonable rate that gives him a chance to prove his value and get a longer contract after.

In comment 16465505 81_Great_Dane said:

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I think this signing makes that less slightly urgent — but only slightly. He looks like a part-time player at best at this stage of his career. They need a replacement for Leonard WIlliams. Or, at least, they would have if they'd kept Wink. I don't know what the new guy will do.

i think they will still draft someone.

i think today Lawrence starts in the A gap at NT, backed up by Davidson or Riley.

Nacho and Phillips probably compete for starter in the B gap/3 tech with the non-starter backing up all the other positions.

The 3rd starter could be one one of the 3 non-starters above, or an end with hand in dirt be it Thibs or Burns, or a 6h DL rookie they draft with some position flex/athleticism.

about this... NO LOVE lost between Phillips and the Eagles...
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In comment 16465511 Angel Eyes said:

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In comment 16465505 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: I think this signing makes that less slightly urgent — but only slightly. He looks like a part-time player at best at this stage of his career. They need a replacement for Leonard WIlliams. Or, at least, they would have if they'd kept Wink. I don't know what the new guy will do. Judging by Bowen's defense I would still place a quicker 3-Tech high on the priorities list for Day 2.

Getting pressure from Dex along with Burns, and (hopefully) KT, I wonder if we would be ok with a less athletic 3-tech who can be more run-focused.

This would be a cheaper route (either in FA or a lower draft pick) and would free up our day 2 picks for other positions.

Of losing A’Shawn Robinson.

In comment 16465595 M.S. said:

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Of losing A’Shawn Robinson.

It’s a different scheme. More attention to 3 tech with the ability to penetrate and get pressure than run stop.

In comment 16465595 M.S. said:

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Of losing A’Shawn Robinson.

No shit. Robinson got $22.5 million however.

In comment 16465606 BLUATHRT said:

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In comment 16465595 M.S. said: Quote: Of losing A’Shawn Robinson. It’s a different scheme. More attention to 3 tech with the ability to penetrate and get pressure than run stop.

We know Dexter Lawrence will be effective… but will some rotation of Taco, Davidson, Riley and Phillips be effective as well?

Not a taco.

In comment 16465310 Breeze_94 said:

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Last year, FWIW. But a much needed depth piece on the DL, assuming he has something left in the tank. I noticed they’ve been light on DL visits on the top 30 - save for a late round guy Boyd. I did see Maason Smith was in for a visit, though it doesn’t seem to be reported anywhere. Linked the tweet where I saw that.. Link - ( New Window )

I'm hoping this isn't another Danny Shelton signing...

Its like an extra Christmas present.

I don't know if he even makes it out of camp......but very big boy.....now, with Paterson influence.....only 31( he might have millage, 31 is not old old).....and mgt. And the coaches know him.....

A.Robinson 22 mil contract.....some seem to say.....we lost a key cog.....was he?

Patterson influence.....seems to help most players.....

In comment 16465979 George from PA said:

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Its like an extra Christmas present. I don't know if he even makes it out of camp......but very big boy.....now, with Paterson influence.....only 31( he might have millage, 31 is not old old).....and mgt. And the coaches know him..... A.Robinson 22 mil contract.....some seem to say.....we lost a key cog.....was he? Patterson influence.....seems to help most players.....

31 in football is very old. It's like a player going for a third contract, which represents a very small percentage. Not many of those in the NFL. A'Shawn Robinson played very well for the Giants and seemed to get better as the season progressed.

In comment 16465776 MNP70 said:

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In comment 16465310 Breeze_94 said: Quote: Last year, FWIW. But a much needed depth piece on the DL, assuming he has something left in the tank. I noticed they’ve been light on DL visits on the top 30 - save for a late round guy Boyd. I did see Maason Smith was in for a visit, though it doesn’t seem to be reported anywhere. Linked the tweet where I saw that.. Link - ( New Window ) I'm hoping this isn't another Danny Shelton signing...

Justin Eliis too.

Phillips is competing for a roster spot. He could still play and get about 20-30% give or take. Not have the responsibility that A'Shawn had, of course.

jelly had 1.5 sacks in his entire career - and 1 of them was actually as a giant. before coming to the nyg he had 9 starts in his prior 4 years combined.

shelton had 6 over his career.

phillips started 9/14 games just last year had 2.5 sacks last year plus another one taken away by penalty. he has 24 sacks in his career.

bigger guys can lose it quick so cross your fingers but im guessing this is a very cheap deal so no downside.

with the Giants. One PI last year. That's a pretty good stat. Some corners get three in a single game.

I saw him miss what should have been an easy take out of bounds. The guy got past him and took off down the sidelines, but Jackson at least ran after him and almost caught him. He might be one of those vets who doesn't play all out when his team is not competing for anything after four weeks.

His injury history is not too good, but better Jackson than playing someone signed off the practice squad.

can play. will be a good player to have in the room with the young pups.