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Sikkema: I think Giants are desperate to trade up

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/11/2024 6:17 pm
Short video...
PFF’s Trevor Sikkema: Giants are “Desperate” to Move Up to Draft a QB | The Rich Eisen Show - ( New Window )
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/11/2024 6:22 pm : link
Going to be a long fucking two weeks.
I hated  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2024 6:25 pm : link
when he punched the goal post after the punt return.
Perhaps I'm wrong  
River Mike : 4/11/2024 6:26 pm : link
but I think decisions made in desperation are often regretted.
RE: I hated  
River Mike : 4/11/2024 6:28 pm : link
In comment 16465622 pjcas18 said:
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when he punched the goal post after the punt return.


Was that Trevor? I thought it was Vai (sp)
Or are you messin' with us?
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David B. : 4/11/2024 6:29 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6:22 pm : link : reply
Going to be a long fucking two weeks.



The speculation, over analysis, smokescreens, and hand-wringing, has already been interminably long since the combine ended 5 weeks ago. The bullshit is at ear-level already. Another 2 weeks is torture.
RE: RE: I hated  
River Mike : 4/11/2024 6:30 pm : link
In comment 16465627 River Mike said:
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In comment 16465622 pjcas18 said:


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when he punched the goal post after the punt return.



Was that Trevor? I thought it was Vai (sp)
Or are you messin' with us?


Yeah, you're messin with us, the last name isn't even right. My bad! LOL
Eisen show posted a misleading title  
gameday555 : 4/11/2024 6:31 pm : link
Sikkema said he THINKS giants are desperate to trade up. They conveniently left that word out.
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26.2 : 4/11/2024 6:37 pm : link
In comment 16465628 David B. said:
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6:22 pm : link : reply
Going to be a long fucking two weeks.




The speculation, over analysis, smokescreens, and hand-wringing, has already been interminably long since the combine ended 5 weeks ago. The bullshit is at ear-level already. Another 2 weeks is torture.


I'm at the point where I don't even care who they draft anymore.
I  
AcidTest : 4/11/2024 6:42 pm : link
think the Giants are only willing to make a "godfather" offer for Maye, not JJM.
RE: I  
TommyWiseau : 4/11/2024 6:44 pm : link
In comment 16465646 AcidTest said:
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think the Giants are only willing to make a "godfather" offer for Maye, not JJM.


I just don't see anything special with Maye. Do I think he can be a good QB, yes. But someone to trade the farm for? I am not sure.
I think they want Maye  
Sean : 4/11/2024 6:45 pm : link
.
RE: I hated  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/11/2024 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16465622 pjcas18 said:
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when he punched the goal post after the punt return.


That’s weird. I thought he played for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Well if it wasn't for liquor and bad decisions...  
56goat : 4/11/2024 6:46 pm : link
Fill in the blanks
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/11/2024 6:51 pm : link
While I think he goes 2, man...if Daniels is there @ 3...I'd be on board for doing whatever we can to get him. Hell, I'll cut the grass at Gilette for the next 5 months prior to the start of the season.
None of these guys know anything  
BillT : 4/11/2024 6:54 pm : link
Click bait info either fed to them or just made up.
Let's  
prdave73 : 4/11/2024 8:03 pm : link
hope not.
I think the statement by Schoen  
Rjanyg : 4/11/2024 9:09 pm : link
“ we don’t plan on picking in the top 10 again “ is all you need to know.

They can be within striking distance of getting their guy which is probably Maye.

The back up plan is to let the draft come to them, if McCarthy falls he will or ably be the pick. If they are all gone it’s WR or trade out.

This is NYG strategy IMO.
RE: I think the statement by Schoen  
BleedBlue46 : 4/11/2024 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16465816 Rjanyg said:
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“ we don’t plan on picking in the top 10 again “ is all you need to know.

They can be within striking distance of getting their guy which is probably Maye.

The back up plan is to let the draft come to them, if McCarthy falls he will or ably be the pick. If they are all gone it’s WR or trade out.

This is NYG strategy IMO.


According to GiantGrit, Schoen is not taking JJM at 6. I'm wondering if Schoen is just leaking things to people in different departments so there's a lot of contradictory information out there (including the NYG beatwriters and our asshats). That would be a wise strategy if you feel there are leaks in the ship. Tell different departments all sorts of contradictory information all the while only your inner circle of 3 guys knows your real thoughts. Especially don't tell Chris Mara.
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David B. : 4/11/2024 9:17 pm : link
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I'm at the point where I don't even care who they draft anymore.


I don't either. I just want them to NOT fuck up the pick. Just get a damn difference maker! If they LOVE a QB, great, but they fucking better be right about it -- especially if they have to trade up. Get a stud WR? Great! Get an OT and settle the OL once and for all? I'm good there too.

Nothing against Thomas, or Lawrence but without looking it up, I can't even remember the last time the Giants drafted a true difference maker that other teams feared. Probably Beckham. It wasn't Barkley. Teams could mostly keep Barkley from beating them.

FWIW, I don't believe the Giants DESPERATE to do anything specific. I think they just want to improve the team.
What you're seeing is exactly  
allstarjim : 4/11/2024 9:19 pm : link
What you want to see...a bunch of confused media...some say they are going to sit tight, some say trade up, some say they are desperate for QB, some say they will take one only if the right one falls to them at 6, or will go receiver.

Others speculating they could move down.

Add it all up, and Schoen has led a successful campaign to plant seeds of doubt as to what they want to do.

Even if you think it's QB, there is still those that think they love Maye, others say they're hot for JJM, etc.

I think they prefer QB, and it's anyone's guess if they will move up or not.

RE: What you're seeing is exactly  
BleedBlue46 : 4/11/2024 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16465841 allstarjim said:
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What you want to see...a bunch of confused media...some say they are going to sit tight, some say trade up, some say they are desperate for QB, some say they will take one only if the right one falls to them at 6, or will go receiver.

Others speculating they could move down.

Add it all up, and Schoen has led a successful campaign to plant seeds of doubt as to what they want to do.

Even if you think it's QB, there is still those that think they love Maye, others say they're hot for JJM, etc.

I think they prefer QB, and it's anyone's guess if they will move up or not.


Agreed, and I think this might extend to our asshats with Schoen as GM. I can't remember a good draft asshat leak (that sounds a little nasty) since Schoen took over as GM.
I’m desperate to win the powerball  
The_Boss : 4/11/2024 10:11 pm : link
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RE: What you're seeing is exactly  
Darwinian : 4/11/2024 10:42 pm : link
In comment 16465841 allstarjim said:
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What you want to see...a bunch of confused media...some say they are going to sit tight, some say trade up, some say they are desperate for QB, some say they will take one only if the right one falls to them at 6, or will go receiver.

Others speculating they could move down.

Add it all up, and Schoen has led a successful campaign to plant seeds of doubt as to what they want to do.

Even if you think it's QB, there is still those that think they love Maye, others say they're hot for JJM, etc.

I think they prefer QB, and it's anyone's guess if they will move up or not.


It's true. Everybody is confused. We hear everything from trade up, trade down, stand pat. Nice job confusing everyone.
They media is NOT confused  
David B. : 4/12/2024 12:07 am : link
They're just paid to talk. To speculate -- FAR too much. It's like the 24 hour news cycle. Too much air time to fill and not enough info or real news to fill it. So they all just say shit. When they don't know, they just make it up. It's 99% click bait.

Schoen told us last year that the Giants rehearse and mock out ALL the possible scenarios of how the draft picks might fall. They have multiple plans AND contingencies in place.

IF they LOVE a QB, they already know how much they'd be willing to give to trade up for that guy -- and how much is TOO much. They already know what they'll do if they can't make that trade. They also already know that if a QB they don't LOVE falls in their lap at 6, whether they'd trade down, how far, or just pick their BPA. The Giants have already planned for all foreseeable contingencies.

Everyone else is just guessing. I'm actually GLAD that it seems for ONCE, the talking heads don't actually know what the Giants are thinking.


RE: They media is NOT confused  
Maijay : 4/12/2024 8:30 am : link
In comment 16465955 David B. said:
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They're just paid to talk. To speculate -- FAR too much. It's like the 24 hour news cycle. Too much air time to fill and not enough info or real news to fill it. So they all just say shit. When they don't know, they just make it up. It's 99% click bait.

Schoen told us last year that the Giants rehearse and mock out ALL the possible scenarios of how the draft picks might fall. They have multiple plans AND contingencies in place.

IF they LOVE a QB, they already know how much they'd be willing to give to trade up for that guy -- and how much is TOO much. They already know what they'll do if they can't make that trade. They also already know that if a QB they don't LOVE falls in their lap at 6, whether they'd trade down, how far, or just pick their BPA. The Giants have already planned for all foreseeable contingencies.

Everyone else is just guessing. I'm actually GLAD that it seems for ONCE, the talking heads don't actually know what the Giants are thinking.

I couldn't agree more
David B on target  
JonC : 4/12/2024 8:45 am : link
Define desperate. It doesn't sound like they're terribly motivated to flip their #1 pick next year to complete a move up. But, we'll see in 13 days.
RE: I think the statement by Schoen  
nochance : 4/12/2024 9:07 am : link
In comment 16465816 Rjanyg said:
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“ we don’t plan on picking in the top 10 again “ is all you need to know.

They can be within striking distance of getting their guy which is probably Maye.

The back up plan is to let the draft come to them, if McCarthy falls he will or ably be the pick. If they are all gone it’s WR or trade out.

This is NYG strategy IMO.



I hope that don't mean they're trading the 2025 1st rounder
nochance  
Sean : 4/12/2024 9:09 am : link
I think they absolutely would for Maye. Doubt they would for anyone else assuming Daniels goes 2.
This whole process is draining...  
DefenseWins : 4/12/2024 9:32 am : link
all kinds of speculation, hope and discussion about what we do in the draft.

Post draft, lots of disappointment on what the team decides to do.

Mix in some false hope about an improved offensive line, and we have the blueprint for our off season every year.
RE: I think the statement by Schoen  
AcidTest : 4/12/2024 11:49 am : link
In comment 16465816 Rjanyg said:
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“ we don’t plan on picking in the top 10 again “ is all you need to know.

They can be within striking distance of getting their guy which is probably Maye.

The back up plan is to let the draft come to them, if McCarthy falls he will or ably be the pick. If they are all gone it’s WR or trade out.

This is NYG strategy IMO.


Agreed.
RE: RE: I think the statement by Schoen  
BleedBlue46 : 4/12/2024 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16466315 AcidTest said:
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In comment 16465816 Rjanyg said:


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“ we don’t plan on picking in the top 10 again “ is all you need to know.

They can be within striking distance of getting their guy which is probably Maye.

The back up plan is to let the draft come to them, if McCarthy falls he will or ably be the pick. If they are all gone it’s WR or trade out.

This is NYG strategy IMO.



Agreed.


+1 this is my read on it. Take Odunze at 6 and see if Penix slides to the back of rd1! If the Vikings take Maye or JJM, Broncos take Nix, Raiders take OT or CB, seahawks pass, then Penix is sliding within reasonable reach.
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