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Doubledeuce22 : 4/12/2024 2:07 pm
Chance to lock up at least the 3 seed tonight as they have tie breaker with Cleveland. No Hartenstein tonight. Don't mess around and get off to a fast start and bury the Nets early.
Does a win guarantee #3?  
AROCK1000 : 4/12/2024 2:11 pm : link
I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.
RE: Does a win guarantee #3?  
BigBlueShock : 4/12/2024 2:16 pm : link
In comment 16466600 AROCK1000 said:
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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.

Well if the Knicks win and Cavs lose there can be no 3 way tie so yes, they can clinch the 3 seed tonight
RE: Does a win guarantee #3?  
Doubledeuce22 : 4/12/2024 2:34 pm : link
In comment 16466600 AROCK1000 said:
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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.


It goes Division winner as 1st tiebreak and then Conference record after that which the Knicks have already won from the Cavs.
Fuck 1 win  
larryflower37 : 4/12/2024 2:47 pm : link
We are winning the next 2 and leaving no doubt. We have a shot at the 2 seed and 50 wins. Thibs will have them fired up for the next 2 games, this is a different team, similar to late 80s/ early 90's Knicks they want to win every time they step on the court.
#LFGK
Always an outside chance Cam Thomas  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 2:49 pm : link
pulls a 40-point game out of his ass, otherwise I’d expect a businesslike performance from the fellas.
Yea, if there was a game they were going to drop  
Chris684 : 4/12/2024 3:08 pm : link
it was last night. They even had a hiccup against the Bulls last week.

Back to the Garden with a chance at 50 wins and the 2 seed. I expect very good performances.
Hope McBride gets back in the groove  
bluefin : 4/12/2024 3:18 pm : link
last night’s bench performance was troublesome.
Why is Precious  
Earl the goat : 4/12/2024 3:41 pm : link
Riding the bench the last week ?
RE: Why is Precious  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16466734 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?


Because there is no where to play him
I'm nervous about tonight's game  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 3:49 pm : link
It's a classic letdown game after beating the Celtics in Boston and Brooklyn isn't coming off a back to back like us and will be treating this like their championship.

I can see the Knicks laying a dud in this one, especially if Brooklyn starts out hot from 3.
RE: I'm nervous about tonight's game  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 3:52 pm : link
In comment 16466743 LW_Giants said:
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It's a classic letdown game after beating the Celtics in Boston and Brooklyn isn't coming off a back to back like us and will be treating this like their championship.

I can see the Knicks laying a dud in this one, especially if Brooklyn starts out hot from 3.


no finney-smith, cam johnson and dayron sharpe doubtful, schroeder is questionable
Re: Does a win guarantee #3  
shyster : 4/12/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16466648 Doubledeuce22 said:
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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.



It goes Division winner as 1st tiebreak and then Conference record after that which the Knicks have already won from the Cavs.


In the event of a three way tie (Knicks, Bucks, Cavs), Cavs win the Central Division because of a better division record than the Bucks.

The Bucks then beat out the Knicks on better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

So three way tie at 49-33 means CLE #2, Bucks #3, NYK #4.

RE: Re: Does a win guarantee #3  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2024 4:14 pm : link
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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.



It goes Division winner as 1st tiebreak and then Conference record after that which the Knicks have already won from the Cavs.



In the event of a three way tie (Knicks, Bucks, Cavs), Cavs win the Central Division because of a better division record than the Bucks.

The Bucks then beat out the Knicks on better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

So three way tie at 49-33 means CLE #2, Bucks #3, NYK #4.


I saw this stated somewhere official-ish as well. We do not want a three-way tie.
RE: RE: Why is Precious  
Earl the goat : 4/12/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16466736 nygiants16 said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him



NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog
Listen, I want to win but  
robbieballs2003 : 4/12/2024 4:26 pm : link
The 4 seed can be better than the 2 seed in round 1. The teams at 5, 6, 7, and 8 are all going to be tough but I'd rather play Orlando or Indy than Miami or Philly in round 1.
RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2024 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16466786 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog


You need guys who can score by getting their own shot in the playoffs. That's why we need Bog.
RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 4:32 pm : link
In comment 16466786 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog


Yes 8 man rotation is fine, most of the starters will play 40 minutes a night and Lrecious doesnt fit at the 4 next to Mit h
RE: RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 5:04 pm : link
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog



Yes 8 man rotation is fine, most of the starters will play 40 minutes a night and Lrecious doesnt fit at the 4 next to Mit h

Brendan Brown was on NBA radio this AM and made a great point. Even if you give Brunson 28-30 points ppg when things slow down in the playoffs, do the math on the rest of the rotation and you have to get to 105 or so to go give the Knicks a really good chance to win. Do the math on the rest of the rotation (I did) and it's not as easy as you think to get to that # without Randle's 20+ ppg. No way you can play Precious over Bogdo. They need his shooting and scoring.
The only team i am really scared of is Philly  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 5:29 pm : link
and thats just because of Embiid, he can take over a game with his foul baiting, Knicks have 2 centers who can guard him and i think you can attack him, especially with Brunson going downhill but he could have agame where he gets 20 free throws becuase of Nick Nurse crying all damn game
Bogdonovich is a polarizing player.  
81_Great_Dane : 4/12/2024 5:34 pm : link
He seems to sometimes overestimate his own skills -- but to put that another way, he's fearless. Sometimes too fearless for his own good. He often seems lost on defense, and he's not a good defender to begin with, but at least he seems to me to be giving max effort. He seems to understand what he needs to do to contribute. That's not to say that he can always do it, but he understands it.

If you only see the chaotic D and the inevitable turnovers that result when he tries to drive to the basket against bigger, quicker defenders, he looks like a waste of a roster spot. But he's a legit, veteran shooter/scorer. 12-15 points off the bench is important in the playoffs.

Achiuwa has very little offensive game. He seems to have regressed; maybe he's tired since he wasn't used to playing so many minutes. Maybe the league caught up with his tendencies on tape. He might get a few minutes a night in the playoffs when Hart needs a breather. But there had better be shooters on the floor with him— Bogdonovich, DeVincenzo and/or McBride? — or the Knicks aren't going to be able to keep up.

McBride needs to re-find his game.

Burks is the guy I never want to see on the floor again unless the Knicks are up or down by 30. He's basically played himself out of the rotation. Good.

I'm worried about Mitch. He looks rusty to say the least. He's not getting his offensive rebounds. Somebody on here said he looks like he put on weight. Maybe. I don't think he's as disciplined or driven as Randle or Brunson.
Precious is going to have to be used situationally. Those lineups  
Strahan91 : 4/12/2024 6:10 pm : link
with Precious and iHart/Mitch are killers for spacing. Last night it seemed like Thibs put Precious in to stick him on Brown after Brown was doing whatever he wanted in the first quarter. I thought that was a savvy move and did seem to slow Brown down
RE: Bogdonovich is a polarizing player.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2024 6:49 pm : link
In comment 16466883 81_Great_Dane said:
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He seems to sometimes overestimate his own skills -- but to put that another way, he's fearless. Sometimes too fearless for his own good. He often seems lost on defense, and he's not a good defender to begin with, but at least he seems to me to be giving max effort. He seems to understand what he needs to do to contribute. That's not to say that he can always do it, but he understands it.

If you only see the chaotic D and the inevitable turnovers that result when he tries to drive to the basket against bigger, quicker defenders, he looks like a waste of a roster spot. But he's a legit, veteran shooter/scorer. 12-15 points off the bench is important in the playoffs.

Achiuwa has very little offensive game. He seems to have regressed; maybe he's tired since he wasn't used to playing so many minutes. Maybe the league caught up with his tendencies on tape. He might get a few minutes a night in the playoffs when Hart needs a breather. But there had better be shooters on the floor with him— Bogdonovich, DeVincenzo and/or McBride? — or the Knicks aren't going to be able to keep up.

McBride needs to re-find his game.

Burks is the guy I never want to see on the floor again unless the Knicks are up or down by 30. He's basically played himself out of the rotation. Good.

I'm worried about Mitch. He looks rusty to say the least. He's not getting his offensive rebounds. Somebody on here said he looks like he put on weight. Maybe. I don't think he's as disciplined or driven as Randle or Brunson.


This was a game ago. He's fine. Ankle surgery comes with limitations on being able to train conditioning. It takes time.



What's the point of amateur psychology though? if the effort wasn't there, he wouldn't have come back before the end of the year. He did.
RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16466786 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog


I think at some point Bogs will have an impact in the playoffs
Good to see Sims pick up right where he left off  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 7:44 pm : link
.....perpetually out of position and not rebounding.
Terrible start  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 7:46 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 7:47 pm : link
Nets getting their kicks in now. Lots of time.
Sims is fucking trash  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 7:48 pm : link
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RE: Terrible start  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 7:48 pm : link
In comment 16466973 Eightshamrocks said:
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You almost expected that they’d be a little draining and start slow. They’ll be fine once they break a sweat and get in a groove
Why start Sims over Mitch?  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 7:49 pm : link
Seriously
Sims is awful  
Knickstape : 4/12/2024 7:49 pm : link
Low iq. Routinely mis timing jumps and losing his man
RE: Good to see Sims pick up right where he left off  
81_Great_Dane : 4/12/2024 7:49 pm : link
In comment 16466972 LW_Giants said:
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.....perpetually out of position and not rebounding.
Well, he’s big, so he’s a “big,” but he plays small.
RE: Why start Sims over Mitch?  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 7:55 pm : link
In comment 16466978 Eightshamrocks said:
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So Mitch stays in his normal rotation
This might be a game where we ride the bench for long stretches  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 7:58 pm : link
The knicks look very tired and not mentally focused. No one is cutting, lots of iso at the top of the key ending in chucks. Not pretty.
I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 7:59 pm : link
Very disappointing
RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16466990 Eightshamrocks said:
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Very disappointing


Because they are spent coming off a big win they don’t care?

Some nights you just come out flat, it happens. It has nothing to do with them caring out not.
RE: RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 8:06 pm : link
In comment 16466994 steve in ky said:
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Very disappointing



Because they are spent coming off a big win they don’t care?

Some nights you just come out flat, it happens. It has nothing to do with them caring out not.
By not even bothering to play Harstein, that told me they don't care. I know he has a minutes resctiction, but come on. That move is so unlike Thibs.
RE: Always an outside chance Cam Thomas  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16466673 bceagle05 said:
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pulls a 40-point game out of his ass, otherwise I’d expect a businesslike performance from the fellas.

Oh well.
Anytime anyone wants to guard Cam fucking Thomas  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 8:08 pm : link
I'm all for it.
RE: RE: RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:09 pm : link
In comment 16466999 Eightshamrocks said:
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Very disappointing



Because they are spent coming off a big win they don’t care?

Some nights you just come out flat, it happens. It has nothing to do with them caring out not.

By not even bothering to play Harstein, that told me they don't care. I know he has a minutes resctiction, but come on. That move is so unlike Thibs.


So you’d prefer risk injury and play him beyond recommend minute restrictions?
Embiid exits game, left knee.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:13 pm : link
Celtics and Heat, of course, will be the only East contenders at full strength.
This is what the nets do  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 8:17 pm : link
they shoot a ton of contested threes, if you don't pressure them early and they get in a groove, then they are capable of big scoring nights.

You could see this performance from the knicks coming from a mile away.
Nets won’t stay this hot from three  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:17 pm : link
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Burks still trash  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:18 pm : link
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Ugh.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:20 pm : link
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Burks is absokutely terrible  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:21 pm : link
had 2 guys ahead of the field and literally holds it and then goes for the steal giving the Nets a wide open layup
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:22 pm : link
Burks. Ugh.
Nets treating this like their superbowl  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:24 pm : link
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RE: Burks is absokutely terrible  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16467019 nygiants16 said:
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had 2 guys ahead of the field and literally holds it and then goes for the steal giving the Nets a wide open layup


Fortunately he’s not part of the regular rotation anymore. If it weren’t for Duece being sick he wouldn’t be in there now
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:27 pm : link
Cavs winning, Magic losing RN.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:27 pm : link
Bucks OKC in the first.
What in God’s name  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:28 pm : link
is Sims doing out there?
jesus christ what is Sims doing?  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:29 pm : link
Did he get paid by the Nets? he back pedaled with no one around him and gave Cam a wide open midrsnge shot
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:30 pm : link
Sims sucks.
Ughh simms is just ass  
Knickstape : 4/12/2024 8:31 pm : link
May still take the Knicks ML live at half
Sims needs to be off this roster next season  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 8:31 pm : link
And Harstein needs to be re-signed. I guess they can't affors both Harstein abd Mitch. I choose Harstein. Need a new back up center. Sims must go.
Hack-a-Sims in game 81 of a lost season?  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:35 pm : link
Nets are so fucking trash.
RE: Sims needs to be off this roster next season  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 8:44 pm : link
In comment 16467032 Eightshamrocks said:
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And Harstein needs to be re-signed. I guess they can't affors both Harstein abd Mitch. I choose Harstein. Need a new back up center. Sims must go.

Of course you can afford both. Half the Celtics roster is making 35 + mill.
9 down at the half  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2024 8:47 pm : link
Not the end of the world
RE: RE: RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
shyster : 4/12/2024 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16466999 Eightshamrocks said:
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By not even bothering to play Harstein, that told me they don't care. I know he has a minutes resctiction, but come on. That move is so unlike Thibs.


That's because it's an organizational decision, not Thibs'.

And 50 wins is not the point. This is a big game for very practical purposes. As things stand, if the Knicks lose tonight, they are looking at a real possibility of dropping to the 4th seed, even if they win Sunday.

And they care about that.
Tied it up, I guess they care now  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:57 pm : link
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Tie game.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:58 pm : link
OG upping the intensity on defense.
RE: Tie game.  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16467049 bceagle05 said:
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OG upping the intensity on defense.


And offense!
Sims may be the  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 9:08 pm : link
dumbest player I have ever seen. There are high schoolers that have better court awareness than him.
I  
g56blue10 : 4/12/2024 9:11 pm : link
Just got home and had to check the score. I was sure were getting destroyed in this game lol
Up eight after three.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 9:21 pm : link
I think the Nets scored 13 in that quarter. OG got the Cam Thomas assignment and suddenly he started passing.
Does it annoy anyone else  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/12/2024 9:22 pm : link
how we never play for the 2-for-1 possession at the end of a quarter?
Cam Thomas is such a chuck  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 9:26 pm : link
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RE: Does it annoy anyone else  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 9:27 pm : link
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how we never play for the 2-for-1 possession at the end of a quarter?


It depends on the situation, i dont like when a team with 35 seconds just comes down and chucks a 3, if Brunson is hot, sure, but id rather get a good shot
Pacers-Cavs game is big for determining Knicks' first round  
shyster : 4/12/2024 9:30 pm : link
opponent.

My take is that if Pacers lose, Knicks are going to get the Sixers, either as the 2-7 or the 3-6.
Culture baby!  
CooperDash : 4/12/2024 9:30 pm : link
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Bucks down 13 in 3rd  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:32 pm : link
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What the hell happened to Alec Burks?  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 9:32 pm : link
His Knicks minutes have been a war crime.
Six point game again.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 9:33 pm : link
Brunson and OG will hopefully slam the door now.
That must be e the 3rd godamn time tonight that Thomas has spun  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 9:33 pm : link
At the 3 point line and the 2 defenders run away give him a wide open look
OG was so hit in 3rd I’m surprised  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:39 pm : link
They haven’t gotten him more shots in 4th
Hit = hot  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:40 pm : link
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Come on don't blow this fucking game  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 9:41 pm : link
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If they’re gonna hack Mitch  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 9:44 pm : link
we should hack Claxton.
Nets are losers  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 9:44 pm : link
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Dumbest fucking rule in all of sports.  
CooperDash : 4/12/2024 9:45 pm : link
NBA is run by mongos.
Crush Boston in Boston  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2024 9:45 pm : link
Struggle at home versus the pathetic Nets
RE: Crush Boston in Boston  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16467090 Greg from LI said:
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Struggle at home versus the pathetic Nets


Happens all the time in the NBA, especially on back to backs and missing 2 rotation players who are replace by 2 net zeros
Another fucking moronic rule in the NBA  
CooperDash : 4/12/2024 9:51 pm : link
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Mitch has to know not to foul in that situation  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:52 pm : link
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Cam Thomas the chucking nkzzle  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 9:54 pm : link
thinks he is tough, enjoy china in a couple of years you one trick pony
What is the score?  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2024 9:56 pm : link
CBS app just keeps randomly changing it
111-107  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/12/2024 9:56 pm : link
Knicks
RE: What is the score?  
Mad Mike : 4/12/2024 9:57 pm : link
In comment 16467098 Greg from LI said:
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CBS app just keeps randomly changing it

Knicks by 4, 5 seconds left. Brunson was fouled on the inbounds after the Nets last basket (bit of a hard shove but not flagrant). Made both.
Just don’t foul  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:57 pm : link
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RE: Mitch has to know not to foul in that situation  
CooperDash : 4/12/2024 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16467096 steve in ky said:
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He didn’t foul - Cam launched himself into Mitch. Just one of many bitch moves that the NBA allows. Along with flopping.
Guess Mikal didn’t feel  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 9:58 pm : link
like competing in crunch time?
Put it in the books  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 9:59 pm : link
They showed a lot of heart tonight
Solid win. Annoying game  
mfsd : 4/12/2024 9:59 pm : link
but good teams pull it out even when they don’t have their A game at the start
Feels good to sweep the Nets.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 10:00 pm : link
Sean Marks will hire his seventh coach in the next few weeks - lucky seven I’m sure.
Good win  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 10:00 pm : link
They did care about getting 50 afterall
RE: Feels good to sweep the Nets.  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2024 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16467108 bceagle05 said:
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Sean Marks will hire his seventh coach in the next few weeks - lucky seven I’m sure.


That’s some culture with a capital C right there
RE: Feels good to sweep the Nets.  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 10:02 pm : link
In comment 16467108 bceagle05 said:
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Sean Marks will hire his seventh coach in the next few weeks - lucky seven I’m sure.


Didnt you hear, Marks thinks they can get more superstars there and that they all want to play for the Nets
Fake New York Team  
CooperDash : 4/12/2024 10:03 pm : link
Lol, always fun to beat those posers.
Geez the Magic dropped all the way to 7?  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 10:08 pm : link
the 2 seed seems very good right now
Knicks, Cavs, Pacers, Sixers are all going to be significant favorites  
shyster : 4/12/2024 10:08 pm : link
playing at home against sub-.500 teams.

If all goes to form, the Knicks' seed will be determined by the outcome of the Bucks-Magic game, but the opponent will be the Sixers either way.

If Magic win, they win three-way tie that pushes Sixers to 7th.

If Magic lose, Pacers win the two-way tie that pushes Sixers to 6th.

Will say that the Hawks are good enough to pull an upset and beat the Pacers in Indy. Haven't figured those outcomes.

And, of course, open to correction.
Knicks playoffs scenario  
GMEN46 : 4/12/2024 10:11 pm : link
To me based on tiebreakers it looks like Knicks have strong chance of playing Sixers either in 2 or 3 slot unless they lose and drop to 4.

Phili, Cleveland and Indiana are all going to win Sunday

I’m assuming bulls will be resting players and Knicks should win.

In this scenario if Orlando beats Milwaukee, we go to the 2 and phili stays as 7.

If Milwaukee beats Orlando and Knicks stay at 3 and I believe Orlando drops to 7 and sixers up to 6.

Am I missing something
RE: Knicks playoffs scenario  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16467118 GMEN46 said:
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To me based on tiebreakers it looks like Knicks have strong chance of playing Sixers either in 2 or 3 slot unless they lose and drop to 4.

Phili, Cleveland and Indiana are all going to win Sunday

I’m assuming bulls will be resting players and Knicks should win.

In this scenario if Orlando beats Milwaukee, we go to the 2 and phili stays as 7.

If Milwaukee beats Orlando and Knicks stay at 3 and I believe Orlando drops to 7 and sixers up to 6.

Am I missing something


It will be interesting to see who rests players, Embiid doesnt seem to be moving well
Why haven’t the Knicks clinched the 3 seed?  
aimrocky : 4/12/2024 10:14 pm : link
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RE: Knicks playoffs scenario  
larryflower37 : 4/12/2024 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16467118 GMEN46 said:
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To me based on tiebreakers it looks like Knicks have strong chance of playing Sixers either in 2 or 3 slot unless they lose and drop to 4.

Phili, Cleveland and Indiana are all going to win Sunday

I’m assuming bulls will be resting players and Knicks should win.

In this scenario if Orlando beats Milwaukee, we go to the 2 and phili stays as 7.

If Milwaukee beats Orlando and Knicks stay at 3 and I believe Orlando drops to 7 and sixers up to 6.

Am I missing something


Remember the play-in game doesn't guarantee that the Sixers win the first game they will have to play Miami.
RE: Why haven’t the Knicks clinched the 3 seed?  
shyster : 4/12/2024 10:16 pm : link
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Because they would lose a three way tie with Bucks and Cavs.
RE: RE: Why haven’t the Knicks clinched the 3 seed?  
aimrocky : 4/12/2024 10:18 pm : link
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Because they would lose a three way tie with Bucks and Cavs.

Ohhh ok thanks
Mikal so badly wants to be a Knick lol  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 10:19 pm : link
happiest he was all night was at the end
RE: RE: Why haven’t the Knicks clinched the 3 seed?  
MetsAreBack : 4/12/2024 10:23 pm : link
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Because they would lose a three way tie with Bucks and Cavs.


Ah so playing 2-3 extra games against the Celtics and Bucks because they naively tried hard in a mid season tournament works against them in a tiebreak too. Really well thought out by the nba.


In any event the bulls have less to play for than the Knicks Sunday so hopefully they roll over and play dead and the Knicks end up
With a 2 seed out of all this nonsense
I'd rather play the Pacers or the Magic  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 10:26 pm : link
over the Sixers.
RE: RE: RE: Why haven’t the Knicks clinched the 3 seed?  
shyster : 4/12/2024 10:29 pm : link
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Because they would lose a three way tie with Bucks and Cavs.



Ah so playing 2-3 extra games against the Celtics and Bucks because they naively tried hard in a mid season tournament works against them in a tiebreak too. Really well thought out by the nba.


In any event the bulls have less to play for than the Knicks Sunday so hopefully they roll over and play dead and the Knicks end up
With a 2 seed out of all this nonsense


You gave the answer: Knicks will beat Bulls anyway.

Also, the NBA did switch an away game against the Pistons to a home game for the Knicks, and they only won the game by two points, so there was some makeup there.
I don't care who we play  
larryflower37 : 4/12/2024 10:33 pm : link
The Sixers have been bad in the playoffs and let's see if Embid can get through the grind of a series.
If the Knicks,Cavs win and bucks lose they drop to 4 they would have to go through the Celtics in the 2nd round.
Hawks played the Timberwolves very tough in Minny  
shyster : 4/12/2024 10:38 pm : link
but lost by three.

Now they have nothing to play for against the Pacers, so much less chance of an upset disturbing the scenario set out above.
RE: I don't care who we play  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 10:38 pm : link
In comment 16467132 larryflower37 said:
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The Sixers have been bad in the playoffs and let's see if Embid can get through the grind of a series.
If the Knicks,Cavs win and bucks lose they drop to 4 they would have to go through the Celtics in the 2nd round.


Yeah in reality Knicks should be favored in any series, Sixers series scares me because Embiid's foul baiting, he gets the whistle he will zhoot 20 FTs..

But on paper Knicks should be beat the Sixxers, 2 guys who can guard him for 48 and make him work, 3 or 4 guys who can guard Maxxey and make him work and then you can have OG float and help on everything
RE: RE: I don't care who we play  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 10:51 pm : link
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The Sixers have been bad in the playoffs and let's see if Embid can get through the grind of a series.
If the Knicks,Cavs win and bucks lose they drop to 4 they would have to go through the Celtics in the 2nd round.



Yeah in reality Knicks should be favored in any series, Sixers series scares me because Embiid's foul baiting, he gets the whistle he will zhoot 20 FTs..

But on paper Knicks should be beat the Sixxers, 2 guys who can guard him for 48 and make him work, 3 or 4 guys who can guard Maxxey and make him work and then you can have OG float and help on everything


I think OG would end up guarding Maxxey.
Meh. win Sunday, hopefully get the 2 seed and tee up the playoffs  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 11:05 pm : link
Get as many home games as we can I don’t care who we play. All I know is outside of Boston nobody in the East wants to play us the most. Thinking back to all those awful seasons when a win like this would piss us off because it would hurt our lottery chances. To have this team that battles like junkyard dogs every night and a guy like Brunson who will most definitely finish top 5 in the MVP voting I’m just gonna enjoy having intense playoff basketball to watch. Don’t give a crap who we face.
The Knicks beat a healthy  
Doubledeuce22 : 4/12/2024 11:32 pm : link
76ers team by almost 40. They don’t scare me at all. I think the Knicks beat them in 5.
50 wins and a two seed has value  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 11:45 pm : link
even if we catch a bad playoff matchup and lose. The league knows how good we are, and that we’re missing a key piece to the puzzle for this postseason run. We’re closer to a championship now than we were a year ago, and still have the resources to get better. Having a 27-year-old Brunson isn’t much different than a 27-year-old Ewing - we’re gonna be good for a while.

Having said all that, I’ll take my chances with Philly. The Nova guys will love going down there and kicking ass.
I was at the game  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2024 11:56 pm : link
and the only thing I think I can add is that Jericho Sims looks just as bad in person as on tv. He just does not box out all the time (I watched that specifically sometimes).
OG has some fight  
bluefin : 4/13/2024 7:38 am : link
he’s mild-mannered in interviews, but he displayed his feistiness after Cam’s hard foul on JB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Why haven’t the Knicks clinched the 3 seed?  
BigBlueShock : 4/13/2024 7:43 am : link
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Because they would lose a three way tie with Bucks and Cavs.



Ah so playing 2-3 extra games against the Celtics and Bucks because they naively tried hard in a mid season tournament works against them in a tiebreak too. Really well thought out by the nba.


In any event the bulls have less to play for than the Knicks Sunday so hopefully they roll over and play dead and the Knicks end up
With a 2 seed out of all this nonsense



You gave the answer: Knicks will beat Bulls anyway.

Also, the NBA did switch an away game against the Pistons to a home game for the Knicks, and they only won the game by two points, so there was some makeup there.

Switching a game from road to home doesn’t come remotely close to having had to play the two best teams in the conference one extra time each. Both of those extra games on the road on top of that…
RE: OG has some fight  
mfsd : 4/13/2024 7:46 am : link
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he’s mild-mannered in interviews, but he displayed his feistiness after Cam’s hard foul on JB.


Yup I thought he handled that well. Didn’t overreact or start anything stupid, just got in Thomas’s face for a second and no doubt said don’t take liberties with my guy

When Thomas started running his mouth, OG walked away, as he should have. Knicks are going to playoffs, no reason to get into a fight and get suspended against a team with nothing to lose, but he showed the Knicks will stand up for each other
RE: RE: Mitch has to know not to foul in that situation  
bluefin : 4/13/2024 7:46 am : link
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He didn’t foul - Cam launched himself into Mitch. Just one of many bitch moves that the NBA allows.

If that’s a foul it ought to be 2 shots if the defender is completely inside the arc.
RE: RE: OG has some fight  
bluefin : 4/13/2024 7:49 am : link
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he’s mild-mannered in interviews, but he displayed his feistiness after Cam’s hard foul on JB.



Yup I thought he handled that well. Didn’t overreact or start anything stupid, just got in Thomas’s face for a second and no doubt said don’t take liberties with my guy

When Thomas started running his mouth, OG walked away, as he should have. Knicks are going to playoffs, no reason to get into a fight and get suspended against a team with nothing to lose, but he showed the Knicks will stand up for each other

Exactly. It shouldn’t have been a T because he didn’t bump or use his hands, but I can understand the refs wanting to discourage escalation.
Thomas then said postgame  
nygiants16 : 4/13/2024 8:22 am : link
that Brunson Flopped, dude shutup, you were mad you lost and your team sucks, so ran over and pushed him like you did...

Hack A Mitch  
BigBlueShock : 4/13/2024 8:55 am : link
Was completely embarrassing for the Nets. They aren’t playing for anything. They treated this game like it was game 7 of the ECF. What was the purpose of making this game completely unwatchable while they are out there constantly stopping the pace of the game so we can watch free throws? I can understand in an important game, teams using this strategy. But in this scenario? wtf?
RE: Hack A Mitch  
Stu11 : 4/13/2024 9:21 am : link
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Was completely embarrassing for the Nets. They aren’t playing for anything. They treated this game like it was game 7 of the ECF. What was the purpose of making this game completely unwatchable while they are out there constantly stopping the pace of the game so we can watch free throws? I can understand in an important game, teams using this strategy. But in this scenario? wtf?

Agreed. Credit to Mitch though for at least hitting 4 of the 6. There's a chance we would have made out better than 4 points in the 3 possessions, but credit to him for not making it a disaster.
It was amazing to see  
nygiants16 : 4/13/2024 9:28 am : link
the drop off in team defense from Hartenstein to Sims and then the bench from Deuce to Burks...Both those guys are going to be very important to this run..

I like what i am seeing from OG, he is letting the game come to him, getting into the flow on the defensive end and then when needed he adds a scoring punch...
Sixers habe an interesting dilemma  
nygiants16 : 4/13/2024 9:48 am : link
Embiid tweaked his knee, he came back and played but he could barely move, do they rest him tomorrow where they might lose and end up in a play in vs Miami OR do they play him in hopes of getting a top 6 seed and then he can rest for a week?
I was really hoping we’d start fouling Claxton  
bceagle05 : 4/13/2024 9:49 am : link
who is also a terrible FT shooter. Woulda been hilarious.
RE: Sixers habe an interesting dilemma  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/13/2024 9:58 am : link
In comment 16467309 nygiants16 said:
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Embiid tweaked his knee, he came back and played but he could barely move, do they rest him tomorrow where they might lose and end up in a play in vs Miami OR do they play him in hopes of getting a top 6 seed and then he can rest for a week?


He's a tremendous talent, but man...there's ALWAYS something wrong with him health wise, especially come the spring.

& what a choke job by Denver last night. They can only get the 1 seed with a win tomorrow @ Memphis-probable-but they also need OKC to lose to Dallas at home-unlikely considering Dallas is locked into the 5 seed & will presumably be resting Luka, Kyrie, etc.-& Wolves to lose at home to Phoenix.
RE: Sixers habe an interesting dilemma  
shyster : 4/13/2024 10:03 am : link
In comment 16467309 nygiants16 said:
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Embiid tweaked his knee, he came back and played but he could barely move, do they rest him tomorrow where they might lose and end up in a play in vs Miami OR do they play him in hopes of getting a top 6 seed and then he can rest for a week?


Sixers have to be concerned about losing and falling into a tie with Miami, because they would lose the tiebreaker and face having to play the 7-8 game in Miami.

In the likely scenario, with Magic-Bucks the swing game, a Magic win means the Sixers need to win to host the 7-8 game and a Magic loss means the Sixers need a win to get the 6 seed.
RE: Dumbest fucking rule in all of sports.  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2024 10:41 am : link
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NBA is run by mongos.


The National Mongo Association
Sixers have a problem  
larryflower37 : 4/13/2024 10:56 am : link
Either way, Embid is not ready for the grind of the playoffs and is obviously not in full game shape which causes new injuries.
They have to avoid the play-in games because it could add more games and less rest for Embid.
So you play him and hope to win so he gets some rest?
50 is a magical #  
AROCK1000 : 4/13/2024 10:57 am : link
Let's go for the Dub and let the chips fall...
I can see the Magic playing to win vs Bucks,to avoid the play in game...
RE: Hack A Mitch  
CooperDash : 4/13/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16467250 BigBlueShock said:
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Was completely embarrassing for the Nets. They aren’t playing for anything. They treated this game like it was game 7 of the ECF. What was the purpose of making this game completely unwatchable while they are out there constantly stopping the pace of the game so we can watch free throws? I can understand in an important game, teams using this strategy. But in this scenario? wtf?


Because they all feel like they have something to prove against the Knicks. Just like the Celtics, who started resting starters before the Knicks game but trotted out their starting lineup against the Knicks. Only to rest their ENTIRE STARTING LINEUP in their very next game, lol. And then the NJ Nets acting like last nights game actually had playoff implications for them, haha.

It’s funny - “everyone hates the Knicks” and “nobody wants to play for the Knicks” but they all sure as hell make sure to put on their best performance when playing the Knicks, especially at MSG.
SI breakdown of NYK’s potential playoff opponents  
bluefin : 4/14/2024 7:26 am : link
Good summary
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