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| If it comes down to J.J. McCarthy, Malik Nabers or Rome Odunze at No. 6, who do you think the Giants select? — @JonesToChina The quarterback. It’s just becoming more and more likely that if the Giants want McCarthy, or any passer other than Michael Penix, they’ll need to trade up to get him. The Vikings also need a quarterback. They’re armed with two first-round picks this year and a full cache of selections in 2025. They can make Arizona a very, very enticing offer for No. 4. The best thing the Giants have going for them is their ability to offer up No. 6 — which has much more value than either of Minnesota’s first-round selections (No. 11, 23). Joe Schoen would need to include quite a bit more, though. Is this year’s third and next year’s second enough? Would he part with his second-round picks both this year and next? Would he include next year’s first? There’s no easy choice, but Schoen will have to move up if he wants a quarterback. It seems highly unlikely any of the big four make it to No. 6. |
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| If you had to guess, who is the most likely pick at No. 6? — @ClutchMstr23 HUGHES: Depends who the Cardinals pick after the Giants trade up to No. 4. |
It depends if the Giants really like the QB available at 4. Otherwise, no reason to trade up.
That's your opinion. You don't like JJ McCarthy, so you assume they wouldn't do it. I'm sure there are many scouts like Sy who have him as QB3 at least.
3 QBs will not be available....but the 4th QB
Will be available at 6.
Just not sure if the Giants are interested in the 4th QB over the available WR.
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for JJ McCarthy at 4. If they miss out on Mayes/Daniels because the Patriots stay at 3 then it'll be a WR.
That's your opinion. You don't like JJ McCarthy, so you assume they wouldn't do it. I'm sure there are many scouts like Sy who have him as QB3 at least.
If McCarthy falls to 6 then they have a better decision to make, I just don't see him as a QB they spend draft capital on.
The Giants have spent a lot of time with McCarthy too. The question obviously is would they draft him in the top 6? Or is this misdirection?
The Giants have spent a lot of time with McCarthy too. The question obviously is would they draft him in the top 6? Or is this misdirection?
Jayden Daniels is scheduled to visit the Giants again this coming week, so I'd include him as well as player they could consider.
Now who on BBI created it? Haha
Man, if Daniels sneaks past WFT...I hope Schoen is on the phone with Wolf up in Foxboro.
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just makes sense that the Giants would draft Maye if given the chance. Same with Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze. And they have spent a ton of time with all four.
The Giants have spent a lot of time with McCarthy too. The question obviously is would they draft him in the top 6? Or is this misdirection?
Jayden Daniels is scheduled to visit the Giants again this coming week, so I'd include him as well as player they could consider.
He has warts, too, just like Maye does. It all depends how Schoen views and ranks these players on his board and what happens at 2 and 3.
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just makes sense that the Giants would draft Maye if given the chance. Same with Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze. And they have spent a ton of time with all four.
The Giants have spent a lot of time with McCarthy too. The question obviously is would they draft him in the top 6? Or is this misdirection?
Jayden Daniels is scheduled to visit the Giants again this coming week, so I'd include him as well as player they could consider.
He has warts, too, just like Maye does. It all depends how Schoen views and ranks these players on his board and what happens at 2 and 3.
+1. Depends on how the first 2 or 3 picks fall. If the cost isn't prohibitive to move up and get one of the players they want, do it. If the price is too rich, stand pat, see teams ahead of them will do with the clock winding down. QB & WR with first 2 picks, either one being the 1st.
Some have even linked McCarthy with WSH. I'm confident Schoen likes 4 QBs, does he trade up for McCarthy is the big question. I think he'd trade up for Maye. I also think he'd take McCarthy at 6.
Again, fwiw, Ourlads Mock has JJM available at 6, but no trades up that high iirc.
There have only been two drafts ever with four quarterbacks selected in the top 10, and they occurred nearly 70 years apart: 1949 and 2018. 1949 had Frank Tripucka taken at No. 9 and 2018 had Josh Rosen taken at 10. So a fourth QB being worthy of a top 10 selection is historically rare --trading up that high for QB4 is completely unprecedented.
Me personally --I'm all over it if it's for Maye. His upside easily justifies this. If it's for JJM, to me that's more of a reach for need. I get it, some evaluators don't feel that way. That's just how I feel about JJ --he seems like a guy who could be a fine QB to win games, but lacks any elite traits unlike nearly all the league's best QBs.
I am willing to be wrong here but I will say there is NO way Washington goes Maye after taking Howell from NC three years ago and with Magic Johnson involved they will want a "splash" pick and that is Daniels..
New England to me is the wildcard here. I think they could look to accumulate picks and take a Nix, Penix or JJM (after a move back). They have more glaring holes than we do.
Keeping in mind the strength of this draft is too heavy QB talent and a very deep WR draft. Understanding this, it seems ideal to get your QB at 6 or 4 with a trade up, hopefully keeping 47 to get help at WR.
If Schoen can come away on the first 2 days with QB, WR I will be pretty happy, assuming he gets Maye or McCarthy.
If somehow McCarthy drops to us at 6, I can see WR like Coleman in round 2 and Melton in round 3.
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True. I keep getting caught up in the fact that it is assumed Daniels with go #2. But that's not a given. We have no idea what Washington will do. Some still think they will take Maye.
I am willing to be wrong here but I will say there is NO way Washington goes Maye after taking Howell from NC three years ago and with Magic Johnson involved they will want a "splash" pick and that is Daniels..
New England to me is the wildcard here. I think they could look to accumulate picks and take a Nix, Penix or JJM (after a move back). They have more glaring holes than we do.
That was a completely different ownership, GM and coach that drafted Howell. You could make the same case against taking Daniels because of their prior RGIII experience (similar Heisman winner and running QB). I don't think either prior QB experience will play into their decision on drafting Maye or Daniels.
Now, I'm not sure what to think because I have a feeling Schoen is just intentionally leaking all sorts of contradictory info and it gets out to everyone via the media and even our asshats. We haven't had any good asshat leaks in any of Schoen's drafts, unless I'm mistaken?
I'd be fine if they took Odunze over JJM. I feel like Nabers has the higher ceiling, but the way he plays I think will lead to more injuries and a shorter career. Odunze plays so smooth and smart, my gut tells me he will be good for a very long time and stay healthy. Nabers definitely has more explosiveness, YAC and separation ability while Odunze has more contested catch ability, red zone/3rd down potential, tracks the ball better. Odunze is a classic X, Nabers is a classic Z.
Currently, my dream picks would be Odunze pick 6 and Penix via trade up into the back of rd1 (pick 47 2025 and 2025 2nd or so). I'd be thrilled with JJM st 6 and Teoy Franklin or Adonai Mitchell (via trade up) or Xavier Leggette too.
It's good to study all these guys thoroughly and keep your mind open to different possibilities. Don't get to stuck on one idea whether it's to take a player or to avoid a player.
Sit tight and hope one drops, or draft the next Larry Fitzgerald or Ja'Marr Chase.
Maye will be there at 6.
Maye will be there at 6.
That would be a huge draft surprise. I tend to think GMs fall in love with high upside QBs, often ignoring the bust factor while enamored with the hope of boom.
I do agree with you in that JJM seems like a much safer pick.
I agree, I would only make that move for Daniels as well.
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True. I keep getting caught up in the fact that it is assumed Daniels with go #2. But that's not a given. We have no idea what Washington will do. Some still think they will take Maye.
Man, if Daniels sneaks past WFT...I hope Schoen is on the phone with Wolf up in Foxboro.
I like Daniels much much more then Maye. I do not see it with Maye