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Duggan posted Feldman's 2022 intel on Evan Neal

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/13/2024 2:54 pm
Interesting, one thought I had is maybe NE likes Neal?  
BleedBlue46 : 4/13/2024 2:57 pm : link
Perhaps we trade up for Maye with pick 6, 2025 3rd and Neal? Then go Beebe rd2? I could see another team liking Neal more than we do and he still has 2 years left on the cheap.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/13/2024 2:57 pm : link
I still think Neal can have a William Roberts like career, where he's moved to guard & excels. Probable? I wouldn't put $ on it, but it wouldn't shock me if that went down. & the dude needs to remain on the field too...people are going to get on his performance- & rightly so-but he's missed significant time in both '22 & '23.
Oops,  
BleedBlue46 : 4/13/2024 3:00 pm : link
I meant pick 6, 2025 1st and Neal
I'm confused  
River Mike : 4/13/2024 3:01 pm : link
He says Neal is more of a guard than Tackle, and then he closes with He'll be an excellent Left Tackle.
River Mike.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/13/2024 3:02 pm : link
I think those are 3 different coaches in those 3 separate paragraphs. But I might be wrong?
RE: I'm confused  
River Mike : 4/13/2024 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16467664 River Mike said:
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He says Neal is more of a guard than Tackle, and then he closes with He'll be an excellent Left Tackle.


Excuse me, a very good Left Tackle
Neal is a guard.  
The Mike : 4/13/2024 3:03 pm : link
The sooner he is put there the sooner he will have the opportunity to play for a second contract. It is pure futility playing him at tackle.
RE: River Mike.  
River Mike : 4/13/2024 3:04 pm : link
In comment 16467666 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think those are 3 different coaches in those 3

separate paragraphs. But I might be wrong?


You could be right and I thought about that but I didn't see any indication of that in the text.
I think he could  
jvm52106 : 4/13/2024 3:10 pm : link
Be part of trade- thus preserving our draft picks..
I love Neal at G too.  
mittenedman : 4/13/2024 3:17 pm : link
I think he's got Pro Bowl G written all over him.

He's lost his confidence at T, and it's sad.

Let him stop worrying about playing in space and he's going to dominate people.

The one thing I'd still worry about is picking up stunts and twists, that seems like more of a vision/communication thing.
RE: I love Neal at G too.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/13/2024 3:19 pm : link
In comment 16467687 mittenedman said:
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I think he's got Pro Bowl G written all over him.

He's lost his confidence at T, and it's sad.

Let him stop worrying about playing in space and he's going to dominate people.

The one thing I'd still worry about is picking up stunts and twists, that seems like more of a vision/communication thing.


Maybe he would be better at that if he was more comfortable and confident not worrying about being on a island in space? I think Eleumanor wins the RT job in camp if it's an open competition as it should be.
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christian : 4/13/2024 3:24 pm : link
The Giants have to make a 5th year option decision after this season. If they intend on moving him to guard, now is the time. I think it's a little silly to project any kind of future for him. Right now he's a disappointment, and has faced both injury and performance issues. Hopefully he can rebuild his value at guard.
I think it is a little shortsighted to move him to guard now  
robbieballs2003 : 4/13/2024 3:26 pm : link
without letting the new coach work with him. He's more valuable to us at OT so he should be given the opportunity to fail before being moved. Our entire OL sucked last year and the year before outside of Andrew Thomas.
"Good center of balance"  
Blueworm : 4/13/2024 3:35 pm : link
Uh, nope.
Feldman?  
pjcas18 : 4/13/2024 3:38 pm : link
he's crazier than a shit house rat.

RE: I'm confused  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/13/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16467664 River Mike said:
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He says Neal is more of a guard than Tackle, and then he closes with He'll be an excellent Left Tackle.


They are all different college coaches.

If you go back and re-read the Athletic's draft preview, they LOVED Neal at tackle, including left tackle.
Guard it is!!!  
Grey Pilgrim : 4/13/2024 3:50 pm : link
Couldn't hurt.
RE: Feldman?  
robbieballs2003 : 4/13/2024 4:06 pm : link
In comment 16467714 pjcas18 said:
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he's crazier than a shit house rat.



Loony!
RE: Feldman?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/13/2024 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16467714 pjcas18 said:
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he's crazier than a shit house rat.



‘Now what he said was ‘Sic’em boy!’ But what I heard was ‘Chopper! Sic balls!’
RE: RE: Feldman?  
robbieballs2003 : 4/13/2024 4:43 pm : link
In comment 16467737 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16467714 pjcas18 said:


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he's crazier than a shit house rat.





‘Now what he said was ‘Sic’em boy!’ But what I heard was ‘Chopper! Sic balls!’


Probably my most memorable movie growing up.
Praying that our smart coaches  
5BowlsSoon : 4/13/2024 4:54 pm : link
Will be able to analyze and then decide to slot in Neal where he can be the most successful that would best help the Giants offense.

I know we have at least two OL coaches….I hope we have a smart consultant on the sideline to advise as well.
I'd like to see Neal at LG  
Paulie Walnuts : 4/13/2024 5:07 pm : link
I think he would pair well with Thomas and JMS
RE: Neal is a guard.  
Optimus-NY : 4/13/2024 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16467668 The Mike said:
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The sooner he is put there the sooner he will have the opportunity to play for a second contract. It is pure futility playing him at tackle.


I agree with you completely. I think they wanna give the new OL Coach the chance to work with him there w little though before making that transition.
RE: I think he could  
GFAN52 : 4/13/2024 5:21 pm : link
In comment 16467678 jvm52106 said:
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Be part of trade- thus preserving our draft picks..


Very doubtful.
RE: Neal is a guard.  
4xchamps : 4/13/2024 5:21 pm : link
In comment 16467668 The Mike said:
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The sooner he is put there the sooner he will have the opportunity to play for a second contract. It is pure futility playing him at tackle.


Yes coach...
so his slow feet and balance issues  
kelly : 4/13/2024 6:13 pm : link
didn't show up in college?

I’m just never  
lugnut : 4/13/2024 8:08 pm : link
Gonna understand how you can graduate from IMG Academy, be a huge, dominant RT for 2 years on an absolutely blue chip college program - including winning a national championship - then come to the pros and be utterly incapable of playing.
RE: RE: RE: Feldman?  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/13/2024 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16467757 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 16467737 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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In comment 16467714 pjcas18 said:


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he's crazier than a shit house rat.





‘Now what he said was ‘Sic’em boy!’ But what I heard was ‘Chopper! Sic balls!’



Probably my most memorable movie growing up.
I watched it again pretty recently. Still holds up - great flick.
RE: so his slow feet and balance issues  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/13/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16467802 kelly said:
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didn't show up in college?
From the limited games I could find from his freshman year, no. He looked a lot better at G where the D has to come to him.

If he doesn’t have to cover a lot of ground then he can keep his balance and really use his great size and strength.
RE: I’m just never  
FStubbs : 4/13/2024 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16467870 lugnut said:
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Gonna understand how you can graduate from IMG Academy, be a huge, dominant RT for 2 years on an absolutely blue chip college program - including winning a national championship - then come to the pros and be utterly incapable of playing.


It's a little easier when you're Evan Neal's size and you're going up against guys who would never come close to even making the XFL.
RE: RE: I’m just never  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/13/2024 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16467946 FStubbs said:
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In comment 16467870 lugnut said:


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Gonna understand how you can graduate from IMG Academy, be a huge, dominant RT for 2 years on an absolutely blue chip college program - including winning a national championship - then come to the pros and be utterly incapable of playing.



It's a little easier when you're Evan Neal's size and you're going up against guys who would never come close to even making the XFL.


You do realize that Neal played in the SEC, right?
I remain concerned  
mfjmfj : 4/14/2024 6:55 am : link
that Neal's height makes him ill suited to be a guard.
I remain hopeful that the primary problem was coaching. He has played about one season of total games. If he can stay healthy and get good coaching maybe he can become an adequate to good RT.
They should have moved Neal to guard last season  
JerrysKids : 4/14/2024 8:57 am : link
it is painfully obvious the man can't play tackle in the NFL full stop. Now we have to waste more time trying to see if he is salvagable at guard. Neal's trade value is zero guys wake up.
RE: I’m just never  
JerrysKids : 4/14/2024 9:03 am : link
In comment 16467870 lugnut said:
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Gonna understand how you can graduate from IMG Academy, be a huge, dominant RT for 2 years on an absolutely blue chip college program - including winning a national championship - then come to the pros and be utterly incapable of playing.


The jump from Alabama to the NFL is huge. Every player in the NFL was a great player in college.
It wasn't a stupid pick.  
Gruber : 4/14/2024 9:38 am : link
It's a pick that hasn't worked out.
All teams have them.
Let’s see, in this thread we  
Dave on the UWS : 4/14/2024 10:08 am : link
have a bunch of arm chair “know it alls” who are proclaiming that Neal IS a guard with certainty.

Yet our GM wen back and looked at EVERY snap Neal took at Bama for all 3 years and concluded “he’s a tackle”

I wonder who we should trust more? Hmmm
Let the new coach  
blueblood : 4/14/2024 10:10 am : link
see what he can do with Neal.. EVERYONE was bad in Bobby Johnson except Andrew Thomas
I have never seen someone say  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 4/14/2024 3:37 pm : link
Neal has good balance, that's the only negative I remember pre draft

He was definitely the obvious pick there to me and I'm hopeful CB can fix our guys but that's a weird thing to read
RE: I have never seen someone say  
BleedBlue46 : 4/14/2024 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16468485 Jint Fan in Buc Land said:
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Neal has good balance, that's the only negative I remember pre draft

He was definitely the obvious pick there to me and I'm hopeful CB can fix our guys but that's a weird thing to read


Eric didn't think it was an obvious pick, he was prophetically against taking a RT at 7.
He is always injured  
xman : 4/15/2024 12:13 am : link
he has been terrible as a Tackle
He might be terrible as a Guard
Give him another second to pretend he is a Tackle
If he fails hope you can salvage him as Guard
Keep fingers crossed

He gets injured because he struggles with his balance and trying to  
gpat1031 : 4/15/2024 10:09 am : link
make blocks.
Let Bricillo re-evaluate Neal, Let him make the determination whether he can cut it and be coached up to tackle or move him to guard.
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