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Fowler: "I really think Giants will be movers and shakers"

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/15/2024 10:15 am
on draft day...

BTW, I'm going to be on Scout's Honor podcast on Wednesday and I'm going to have a recommendation for the Giants that will piss off a lot of fans.
Twitter/X Video of Jeremy Fowler talking Giants - ( New Window )
!!  
The Dude : 4/15/2024 10:18 am : link
Looking forward to being pissed off. No worries Eric, I'm used to it! Knock em out.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/15/2024 10:20 am : link
Art Stapleton
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Judging by 30 visits and how they've conducted pre-draft business, it's pretty clear that #NYGiants are covering themselves if board doesn't fall their way and someone comes with a Godfather offer to move back.

I'm on record saying I wouldn't, but Joe Schoen staying flexible
For Maye, I would agree  
UberAlias : 4/15/2024 10:22 am : link
I also don't think MN will be as aggressive as most assume. I don't see either getting aggressive for JJM.
RE: ...  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2024 10:24 am : link
In comment 16469132 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
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Judging by 30 visits and how they've conducted pre-draft business, it's pretty clear that #NYGiants are covering themselves if board doesn't fall their way and someone comes with a Godfather offer to move back.

I'm on record saying I wouldn't, but Joe Schoen staying flexible


the only way i see it is if they have an elite grade on a few guys we aren't expecting - like terrion arnold/quinyon mitchell or more than 1 OL, or more than 4 QBs, or a pass rusher.

i dont see them trading back outside whatever their equivalent of "we have 6 guys we are hoping for 2 at 5/7". like rico said i think they've just shown too much specificity in who they target both years.

this is a strong top of draft though so it could be 10, 11 or 12. if they like all 7 qbs/wrs that's only alt and a few other players.
I tend to agree with this  
Chris684 : 4/15/2024 10:25 am : link
It seems obvious to me Schoen and Daboll are aware how fast things in this league change and you can go from hero to zero in a year's time. I think Schoen is pissed and is ready to be bold.
Prediction - Eric will recommend  
Section331 : 4/15/2024 10:30 am : link
trading down, and given the right circumstances, I’d be all for it.
I'm ALLL for a trade down for more picks  
Festina Lente : 4/15/2024 10:30 am : link
1) There are tooooo many needs on this team and we are likely too far away to nab one of the qbs they really like at 6. The worst of all worlds is is they reach again at 6 at a not special qb due to need. If they can trade up to get their #1 guy fine, but i don't see it as probable in the least, given the needs of other teams.

2)as an aside, in a draft that is this deep with good Wrs and OL (2 positions of need) one could argue the best strategy is to drop just low enough to still pick one of the better rated ones on their board whilst being able to shore up other positions. One could argue that bad on availability it is wise to first pick the best at positions that are less deep in talent (e.g. corner, DT, edge) and then area the other ones as long as you are not too far behind to do so.
So: Is making plans when you have no control of events  
ConsistentGiantFan : 4/15/2024 10:30 am : link
exerting control of events?

Football philosophers would like to know!
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Put whatever spin you want on it but  
HardTruth : 4/15/2024 10:33 am : link
If the Giants season is once again over before Halloween and there is no real hope in a rookie QB on this roster (1 of these 6) the blowback from fans & media will be unlike any we have ever seen here
RE: Prediction - Eric will recommend  
BigBlueShock : 4/15/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16469152 Section331 said:
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trading down, and given the right circumstances, I’d be all for it.

I believe this is exactly what he’s going to say. His recent posts seem to have him skeptical that any of the top 3 QBs are falling and there is very little chance of moving up
Draft Day could be real exciting  
ZogZerg : 4/15/2024 10:33 am : link
We will see.
Don't care how the sausage is made  
56goat : 4/15/2024 10:41 am : link
as long as it tastes great!
As  
AcidTest : 4/15/2024 10:48 am : link
I've said, I'm generally not a fan of trading down out of a top 10 pick. That is even more true this year since we might get on of the "big four" QBs at #6, and can definitely get one of the "big three" WRs, at #6. But I do agree the Giants should listen to offers and I could see it happening. My sense though is that they would much prefer to move up for Maye or stand pat, in that order, before trading down.
RE: Draft Day could be real exciting  
MotownGIANTS : 4/15/2024 11:00 am : link
In comment 16469165 ZogZerg said:
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We will see.


Yeah part of me does not want to go downtown so I can have full internet access ...
Say the Giants wanted Penix  
kelsto811 : 4/15/2024 11:05 am : link
But also one of the top 5 or 6 receivers, that would probably work with a trade down (extra picks, draft Penix mid 1st and WR early 2nd) easier than it would a trade up (draft nabers/odunze than try to trade back into mid-late 1st)...a trade down also would potentially provide extra picks later on. Trade down, depending on how the first 5 picks go, I think is a real possibility
RE: RE: Prediction - Eric will recommend  
Milton : 4/15/2024 11:06 am : link
In comment 16469164 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16469152 Section331 said:


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trading down, and given the right circumstances, I’d be all for it.


I believe this is exactly what he’s going to say. His recent posts seem to have him skeptical that any of the top 3 QBs are falling and there is very little chance of moving up
My prediction: Eric will recommend taking Penix with the 6th overall pick.
RE: Prediction - Eric will recommend  
ajr2456 : 4/15/2024 11:15 am : link
In comment 16469152 Section331 said:
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trading down, and given the right circumstances, I’d be all for it.
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It’ll be cutting jones
Eric,  
River Mike : 4/15/2024 11:23 am : link
really going out on a limb there predicting what you say will piss off a lot of BBI posters. We all know that WHATEVER you say will piss off a lot of BBI posters ... except me of course.
River Mike - lol  
Angus : 4/15/2024 11:35 am : link
Truth. I hope Eric is going strong on Qb. Love Malik Nabors, but it is easier to get a WR 1 lower (say 2025) than Qb. I say stay at 6 and take Penix.
If Maye is their guy,  
LW_Giants : 4/15/2024 11:43 am : link
go get him!
More speculation from folks who know nothing  
BillT : 4/15/2024 11:52 am : link
Could be right, could be wrong. Got to say something.
RE: Say the Giants wanted Penix  
BleedBlue46 : 4/15/2024 12:35 pm : link
In comment 16469243 kelsto811 said:
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But also one of the top 5 or 6 receivers, that would probably work with a trade down (extra picks, draft Penix mid 1st and WR early 2nd) easier than it would a trade up (draft nabers/odunze than try to trade back into mid-late 1st)...a trade down also would potentially provide extra picks later on. Trade down, depending on how the first 5 picks go, I think is a real possibility


Good point. BTJ and Penix maybe? Or Penix and Adonai Mitchell or Troy Franklin maybe?
RE: River Mike - lol  
averagejoe : 4/15/2024 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16469288 Angus said:
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Truth. I hope Eric is going strong on Qb. Love Malik Nabors, but it is easier to get a WR 1 lower (say 2025) than Qb. I say stay at 6 and take Penix.


Totally agree. Don't move. Don't shake. Take Penix a six and WR in second round and get to work >
RE: RE: River Mike - lol  
BleedBlue46 : 4/15/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16469443 averagejoe said:
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In comment 16469288 Angus said:


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Truth. I hope Eric is going strong on Qb. Love Malik Nabors, but it is easier to get a WR 1 lower (say 2025) than Qb. I say stay at 6 and take Penix.



Totally agree. Don't move. Don't shake. Take Penix a six and WR in second round and get to work >


It's looking like there might be 14-15 wrs taken in the top 50. We could have slim pickings at 47
RE: Don't care how the sausage is made  
Adirondack GMen : 4/15/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16469193 56goat said:
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as long as it tastes great!

You better care how they make the sausage….without casing you got mush! So, they can the best ingredients but without the stuff that holds it together it’s not sausage…=OL is my casing to successfully making sausage.. grill on!🤞
RE: More speculation from folks who know nothing  
Dr. D : 4/15/2024 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16469337 BillT said:
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Could be right, could be wrong. Got to say something.


RE: RE: RE: River Mike - lol  
averagejoe : 4/15/2024 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16469449 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16469288 Angus said:


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Truth. I hope Eric is going strong on Qb. Love Malik Nabors, but it is easier to get a WR 1 lower (say 2025) than Qb. I say stay at 6 and take Penix.



Totally agree. Don't move. Don't shake. Take Penix a six and WR in second round and get to work >



It's looking like there might be 14-15 wrs taken in the top 50. We could have slim pickings at 47


Would rather risk that than losing Penix trading down
It takes two to tango  
Dang Man : 4/15/2024 1:20 pm : link
The visits don’t make them any more or less likely to trade out of the sixth spot. It’s all due diligence. Trades always sound great, but the deal has to fall into place. Can’t force another team to trade.
Trade back far enough to still get Nix or Penix and land that 2nd  
Blue21 : 4/15/2024 1:24 pm : link
Round pick they traded for Burns. Then get a WR and a CB
I think Eric has finally realized that WR  
Rudy5757 : 4/15/2024 1:52 pm : link
is the best way to go and that will be his big surprise. It's eather that or a trade down to get QB 5.
RE: Put whatever spin you want on it but  
djm : 4/15/2024 2:03 pm : link
In comment 16469161 HardTruth said:
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If the Giants season is once again over before Halloween and there is no real hope in a rookie QB on this roster (1 of these 6) the blowback from fans & media will be unlike any we have ever seen here


Ok, popular take here lately and one that means fuck all. What are the Giants supposed to do? Force the pick?

Every team is under pressure. You draft talent. Not positions. Maybe if the Giants can field a roster with more good than bad, maybe they can compete through a season despite the QB not being up to the standards of some. It's happened before, more than you think.

You don't draft to avoid a fan meltdown. You draft talent. You can't reach.
fact  
djm : 4/15/2024 2:05 pm : link
the worst case scenario is not landing a good or great player in this draft, notably at 6. Actually that is the 2nd worst. The very worst case scenario is drafting the wrong QB within the first 2 rounds and losing with that failed QB over the next 2-3 seasons.

Above all else, you need to get this pick right.
Eric's prediction  
jestersdead : 4/15/2024 2:07 pm : link
will be JMM available @ 6, Giants trade down with Minn for 11 & 23. Take a WR @ 11 and Nix @ 23
Get your QB.  
Optimus-NY : 4/15/2024 3:16 pm : link
Pay what you need to to get him.
here's the whole quote  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/15/2024 3:37 pm : link
in the interview -- there's a lot to unpack in there not just Giants will be movers and shakers
Link - ( New Window )
Maye the force  
jvm52106 : 4/15/2024 3:43 pm : link
be with us!
Not drinking the kool aide  
gpat1031 : 4/15/2024 4:25 pm : link
What does that mean?
They have 1 pick in the 1st round, so how much movin and shaking can they do?
Don't try to get cute, grab the BPA at 6 which should be of the top 3 wides and focus on building this roster,...unless Maye or Daniels somehow falls to 6.
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