Sounds weird to say but I never thought the neck stuff was a long term issue
Nothing weird about this take at all.
When a pro athlete has a concerning back or neck injury you will know about it. The team will release real tangible info that is vetted and legit. Not some ass clown with the usual horse shit take of "sources tell me DJ's neck is a concern."
BULLSHIT. Know the difference.
I'm not sure why you are attacking the asshats on this board that have said this. Two things can be true at once: the neck can be find right now and healed, but there is longer term concern given the number of neck injuries that it may not hold up to the wear and tear of a season.
But that wasn't the case.....a few weeks back and some in his circle were concern.
Now, Jones had no doubt he would be 100% for the seaon on both fronts.....neck and knee. He never wavered.....and like usual.....works very hard and is very driven to succeed.
You can complain about his play.....but if you are fan of egg the Giants....you should all be proud of his grit.
Jones in 2024 and Maye in 2025 would be ideal. Maye could use the time.
And if DJ has a season ending injury, we are likely on the hook for 41.6 million in 2025. That would be a great way to build around a rookie QB with no 1st (and potentially no 2nd) in 2025 draft. We will need all the cap room we can get if we make that trade for Maye.
Let go of the fucking pearls and pull the sticks out of your asses. They are going to draft a QB and that QB is going to have to win the job over the guy that knows the offense and has earned the respect of those in the building. Jones will get a chance to play and prove it. If they land him a true number 1 at 6 Jones might play very well.
I think Jones gets injured in 2024 and it ends his career. Just another dumb opinion. I know that.
If Jones playing well scares you.
You care far too much about your opinion than your opinion deserves.
You might as well tattoo asshole on your forehead, it would save everyone time.
‘It feels different. It's not the same injury," Jones said.
He added: "[The MRI] wasn't negative necessarily.
That was from Ranaan on 10/11/23.
What does that mean, not negative? FYI for those who have not had MRIs before - they aren’t negative or positive results. You have to read the whole report and go through all kinds of abnormalities etc.
So he said it was different. But he also had a neck surgery which he said was unrelated as well
‘Jones, 25, was adamant the procedure was not related to the neck problem that sidelined him for the final six games of last season.
"I had a non-football-related procedure done on my neck,' Jones said. "I saw there was something about it. It was completely unrelated, but I feel good.”
Jones suffered a neck injury in Week 12 of last season. The Giants eventually placed him on injured reserve, and he didn't play again because of what sources said was a "disc injury."
This is from Ranaan in Aug 2022
There have been 3 neck things with Jones and all he says unrelated.
RE: RE: RE: Im sorry but why is he saying this now
As oppossed to when he was asked a billion times during the season about it?
Because the draft is less than two weeks away.
Exactly. He is trying to influence our draft pick. And please remember this kind of stuff when he everyone sings his praises on how making he is.
He is acting in his own self interest.
That was not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting the Giants had him say it to lessen the perception that he won't be able to play this week, thus making them even more desperate to pick a QB.
Is this a bad day for you? Do you want his career to be over and are you so sure that Lock is better? I don't think him being healthy changes what the Giants are going to do one bit. If they want a QB and can get one they'll do that wether he's hurt or healthy. If they get one you're likely going to have to hold your nose for at least a few weeks cause Jones will likely start the season. If they don't get a rookie you may have to hold your nose all year. There still the Giants though and the team of the vast majority of this board so each Sunday we root for a W no matter who wears the jersey, yes?
If Jones indeed is the starter - for a 6th time - it should be a bad day for the entire fan base.
I don't know if Lock is better, but I'd like to find out. And, yes, I want Jones cut as a post-June 1st casualty.
However, I have said a number of times this off-season that I am not convinced Schoen is moving on from Jones. If we read/listen to Schoen's words carefully, he said they need to address the QB situation. Very vague.
So, that could mean anything. And by adding Lock as a back-up (since TT left), you could make the case that Schoen has satisfied the QB situation already. Now it's just how fast Jones can be ready for 2024.
While I cede the point there has been a lot of exploration on these QB draft prospects, that could just easily be viewed as GM-due-diligence-101/subterfuge and the real goal is to bring in more pieces for Jones.
I want to be 100% wrong on this and moving on from Jones is coming.
But until it actually happens, I am standing firm that Jones is still the odds-on favorite to be the QB of the future. Unfortunately.
all of that time spent with the QBs was subterfuge. They are actively scouting QBs because they are in play at the top of the draft. That doesn't meant they will take one, but the interest is absolutely genuine...or these guys have a ton of free time that should be better put to use.
RE: Every snap Jones takes as a Giant is a mistake
all of that time spent with the QBs was subterfuge. They are actively scouting QBs because they are in play at the top of the draft. That doesn't meant they will take one, but the interest is absolutely genuine...or these guys have a ton of free time that should be better put to use.
Lombardi recently said what many of us have been saying. You don't take quarterbacks out to dinner and have private workouts with them unless you have serious interest. Same with bringing in Russell Wilson.
This is aside from the 30 Visits, Combine meetings, Pro Day attendance in force, etc.
Mara probably got fed up reading the threads on BBI
he's a total dunce about his neck injury.
A "stinger" is a compression around a nerve which causes, short AND potentially long term injury to the nerve.
Its the SECOND neck injury (involving a nerve), he's had.
If he had a clue (which apparently he doesn't), he should retire NOW. The area is weakened, will never be 100%- despite the stupid comment he made today, and the possibility of hurting it again, MUCH more seriously, will be ever present.
Schoen and his staff have not been putting all this work into another QB for nothing.
If they don't draft a QB, its not for lack of trying.
Sounds weird to say but I never thought the neck stuff was a long term issue
Nothing weird about this take at all.
When a pro athlete has a concerning back or neck injury you will know about it. The team will release real tangible info that is vetted and legit. Not some ass clown with the usual horse shit take of "sources tell me DJ's neck is a concern."
BULLSHIT. Know the difference.
I'm not sure why you are attacking the asshats on this board that have said this. Two things can be true at once: the neck can be find right now and healed, but there is longer term concern given the number of neck injuries that it may not hold up to the wear and tear of a season.
I am not attacking anyone? WTF are you talking about. I said know the difference between rumor and what is actually real.
RE: RE: Every snap Jones takes as a Giant is a mistake
Selfie of Terps, SF, Scooter, MikefrOh, Producer, ThomasG, etc. any time there is evidence of the slightest positive news, positive BBI discussion (or even the SLIGHTEST inkling of him potentially playing in 2024) of Daniel Jones:
At least, it's not a positive if you care about whether or not the Giants win or lose.
That has been clear since 2020. Posters like Johnny5, djm, ryanmkeane, grateful, and the like have either been too stupid or too willfully ignorant to accept it.
Enough already. No one cares that you bought his jersey. The guy stinks. It's done. It's over.
I'd bet Jones can't wait to be gone. Outside of the money this has been a disaster for him. He needs a change of scenery. Until then he's just cashing a paycheck that he isn't earning.
I’m sick and fucking tired of watching subpar QB play from him. It’s now six fucking years.
I get it, I'm just breaking balls. I just put it as much or more on the supporting cast. At the end of the day I don't give a shit who is taking snaps from center I want them to win and I root for every Giants player to succeed.
And you have to admit, that img is pretty phucquing funny lol
Can we have two competing thoughts at the same time
Yes Jones is not the answer at QB but I hope he plays great this year. If there is a QB they really love go do whatever to get him even parting with next year's #1. Which is something I"m not thrilled about doing. I think it is about time something good happens to this franchise. Real Giant fans always root for the man in Giant blue even if we swore he stunk.
RE: Can we have two competing thoughts at the same time
Yes Jones is not the answer at QB but I hope he plays great this year. If there is a QB they really love go do whatever to get him even parting with next year's #1. Which is something I"m not thrilled about doing. I think it is about time something good happens to this franchise. Real Giant fans always root for the man in Giant blue even if we swore he stunk.
Rooting for Daniel Jones is like watching a plane fly into a mountain. We hope everyone is ok, but we know they aren't.
How about we start rooting for the plane to avoid the mountain?
RE: Can we have two competing thoughts at the same time
Yes Jones is not the answer at QB but I hope he plays great this year. If there is a QB they really love go do whatever to get him even parting with next year's #1. Which is something I"m not thrilled about doing. I think it is about time something good happens to this franchise. Real Giant fans always root for the man in Giant blue even if we swore he stunk.
We all hope that if they play Jones that he plays well. But it is sort of like saying "if they put Ezeudu in, let's hope he plays well and locks down a G spot!" We all want that, but most of us realize you are hoping for something that isn't likely to happen.
Yes Jones is not the answer at QB but I hope he plays great this year. If there is a QB they really love go do whatever to get him even parting with next year's #1. Which is something I"m not thrilled about doing. I think it is about time something good happens to this franchise. Real Giant fans always root for the man in Giant blue even if we swore he stunk.
Rooting for Daniel Jones is like watching a plane fly into a mountain. We hope everyone is ok, but we know they aren't.
How about we start rooting for the plane to avoid the mountain?
Imagine if you had this type of fervor when discussing the offensive line play from last season (ESPECIALLY before Thomas came back).
RE: Daniel Jones playing quarterback isn't a positive
At least, it's not a positive if you care about whether or not the Giants win or lose.
That has been clear since 2020. Posters like Johnny5, djm, ryanmkeane, grateful, and the like have either been too stupid or too willfully ignorant to accept it.
Enough already. No one cares that you bought his jersey. The guy stinks. It's done. It's over.
OR we acknowledge 1000 times now a new drafted QB would be a good thing but we don't regurgitate the same shit every day.
You do know I want a QB drafted if possible, right? Nah, post about mountains.
If a starter on the Oline gets injured in training camp
and a journeyman backup has to start the season, we all hope they play well. However, you are going to have a lot of posters looking for a way to get someone better in.
It is the same thing with Jones. Nobody wants him to fail, but we know he likely can't help us and we just want someone better to plug in.
I honestly hope he doesn’t truly believe that shit.
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Sounds weird to say but I never thought the neck stuff was a long term issue
Nothing weird about this take at all.
When a pro athlete has a concerning back or neck injury you will know about it. The team will release real tangible info that is vetted and legit. Not some ass clown with the usual horse shit take of "sources tell me DJ's neck is a concern."
BULLSHIT. Know the difference.
I'm not sure why you are attacking the asshats on this board that have said this. Two things can be true at once: the neck can be find right now and healed, but there is longer term concern given the number of neck injuries that it may not hold up to the wear and tear of a season.
I honestly hope he doesn’t truly believe that shit.
That is beyond embarrassing.
Now, Jones had no doubt he would be 100% for the seaon on both fronts.....neck and knee. He never wavered.....and like usual.....works very hard and is very driven to succeed.
You can complain about his play.....but if you are fan of egg the Giants....you should all be proud of his grit.
And if DJ has a season ending injury, we are likely on the hook for 41.6 million in 2025. That would be a great way to build around a rookie QB with no 1st (and potentially no 2nd) in 2025 draft. We will need all the cap room we can get if we make that trade for Maye.
I think Jones gets injured in 2024 and it ends his career. Just another dumb opinion. I know that.
If Jones playing well scares you.
You care far too much about your opinion than your opinion deserves.
You might as well tattoo asshole on your forehead, it would save everyone time.
Agreed, both Maye/JJM could use a year learning.
WTF? Who the fuck cares? Maybe we should try the novel concept of starting the best QB for a change.
Because the draft is less than two weeks away.
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As oppossed to when he was asked a billion times during the season about it?
Because the draft is less than two weeks away.
Exactly. He is trying to influence our draft pick. And please remember this kind of stuff when he everyone sings his praises on how making he is.
He is acting in his own self interest.
‘It feels different. It's not the same injury," Jones said.
He added: "[The MRI] wasn't negative necessarily.
That was from Ranaan on 10/11/23.
What does that mean, not negative? FYI for those who have not had MRIs before - they aren’t negative or positive results. You have to read the whole report and go through all kinds of abnormalities etc.
So he said it was different. But he also had a neck surgery which he said was unrelated as well
‘Jones, 25, was adamant the procedure was not related to the neck problem that sidelined him for the final six games of last season.
"I had a non-football-related procedure done on my neck,' Jones said. "I saw there was something about it. It was completely unrelated, but I feel good.”
Jones suffered a neck injury in Week 12 of last season. The Giants eventually placed him on injured reserve, and he didn't play again because of what sources said was a "disc injury."
This is from Ranaan in Aug 2022
There have been 3 neck things with Jones and all he says unrelated.
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In comment 16469656 HardTruth said:
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As oppossed to when he was asked a billion times during the season about it?
Because the draft is less than two weeks away.
Exactly. He is trying to influence our draft pick. And please remember this kind of stuff when he everyone sings his praises on how making he is.
He is acting in his own self interest.
That was not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting the Giants had him say it to lessen the perception that he won't be able to play this week, thus making them even more desperate to pick a QB.
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Stroud, 4x, Shamrocks, etc?
Big day for the DJFC.
Is this a bad day for you? Do you want his career to be over and are you so sure that Lock is better? I don't think him being healthy changes what the Giants are going to do one bit. If they want a QB and can get one they'll do that wether he's hurt or healthy. If they get one you're likely going to have to hold your nose for at least a few weeks cause Jones will likely start the season. If they don't get a rookie you may have to hold your nose all year. There still the Giants though and the team of the vast majority of this board so each Sunday we root for a W no matter who wears the jersey, yes?
If Jones indeed is the starter - for a 6th time - it should be a bad day for the entire fan base.
I don't know if Lock is better, but I'd like to find out. And, yes, I want Jones cut as a post-June 1st casualty.
However, I have said a number of times this off-season that I am not convinced Schoen is moving on from Jones. If we read/listen to Schoen's words carefully, he said they need to address the QB situation. Very vague.
So, that could mean anything. And by adding Lock as a back-up (since TT left), you could make the case that Schoen has satisfied the QB situation already. Now it's just how fast Jones can be ready for 2024.
While I cede the point there has been a lot of exploration on these QB draft prospects, that could just easily be viewed as GM-due-diligence-101/subterfuge and the real goal is to bring in more pieces for Jones.
I want to be 100% wrong on this and moving on from Jones is coming.
But until it actually happens, I am standing firm that Jones is still the odds-on favorite to be the QB of the future. Unfortunately.
Muhahaha
It’s the elephant in the room that needs to be discussed more.
Lombardi recently said what many of us have been saying. You don't take quarterbacks out to dinner and have private workouts with them unless you have serious interest. Same with bringing in Russell Wilson.
This is aside from the 30 Visits, Combine meetings, Pro Day attendance in force, etc.
Muhahaha
Lol
Muhahaha
LOL, that's why it's surprising you want to move on from Jones, he's a cash cow for the site!
Oh...shit.
A "stinger" is a compression around a nerve which causes, short AND potentially long term injury to the nerve.
Its the SECOND neck injury (involving a nerve), he's had.
If he had a clue (which apparently he doesn't), he should retire NOW. The area is weakened, will never be 100%- despite the stupid comment he made today, and the possibility of hurting it again, MUCH more seriously, will be ever present.
Schoen and his staff have not been putting all this work into another QB for nothing.
If they don't draft a QB, its not for lack of trying.
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Sounds weird to say but I never thought the neck stuff was a long term issue
Nothing weird about this take at all.
When a pro athlete has a concerning back or neck injury you will know about it. The team will release real tangible info that is vetted and legit. Not some ass clown with the usual horse shit take of "sources tell me DJ's neck is a concern."
BULLSHIT. Know the difference.
I'm not sure why you are attacking the asshats on this board that have said this. Two things can be true at once: the neck can be find right now and healed, but there is longer term concern given the number of neck injuries that it may not hold up to the wear and tear of a season.
I am not attacking anyone? WTF are you talking about. I said know the difference between rumor and what is actually real.
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If and when he gets hurt and the Giants are on the hook for the injury guarantee, they deserve all the criticism they get.
It’s the elephant in the room that needs to be discussed more.
lol. It does not need to be discussed more. But feel free.
Big day for the DJFC.
lol
OK I'll play
Selfie of Terps, SF, Scooter, MikefrOh, Producer, ThomasG, etc. any time there is evidence of the slightest positive news, positive BBI discussion (or even the SLIGHTEST inkling of him potentially playing in 2024) of Daniel Jones:
https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1779954157467615723 - ( New Window )
That has been clear since 2020. Posters like Johnny5, djm, ryanmkeane, grateful, and the like have either been too stupid or too willfully ignorant to accept it.
Enough already. No one cares that you bought his jersey. The guy stinks. It's done. It's over.
I get it, I'm just breaking balls. I just put it as much or more on the supporting cast. At the end of the day I don't give a shit who is taking snaps from center I want them to win and I root for every Giants player to succeed.
And you have to admit, that img is pretty phucquing funny lol
Rooting for Daniel Jones is like watching a plane fly into a mountain. We hope everyone is ok, but we know they aren't.
How about we start rooting for the plane to avoid the mountain?
We all hope that if they play Jones that he plays well. But it is sort of like saying "if they put Ezeudu in, let's hope he plays well and locks down a G spot!" We all want that, but most of us realize you are hoping for something that isn't likely to happen.
‘He might be okay.’
(Car explodes)
‘Well, no. Probably not now.’
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Yes Jones is not the answer at QB but I hope he plays great this year. If there is a QB they really love go do whatever to get him even parting with next year's #1. Which is something I"m not thrilled about doing. I think it is about time something good happens to this franchise. Real Giant fans always root for the man in Giant blue even if we swore he stunk.
Rooting for Daniel Jones is like watching a plane fly into a mountain. We hope everyone is ok, but we know they aren't.
How about we start rooting for the plane to avoid the mountain?
Imagine if you had this type of fervor when discussing the offensive line play from last season (ESPECIALLY before Thomas came back).
That has been clear since 2020. Posters like Johnny5, djm, ryanmkeane, grateful, and the like have either been too stupid or too willfully ignorant to accept it.
Enough already. No one cares that you bought his jersey. The guy stinks. It's done. It's over.
OR we acknowledge 1000 times now a new drafted QB would be a good thing but we don't regurgitate the same shit every day.
You do know I want a QB drafted if possible, right? Nah, post about mountains.
It is the same thing with Jones. Nobody wants him to fail, but we know he likely can't help us and we just want someone better to plug in.
Really...no personal animosity at all.
Just sayin', you never know.........
Just sayin', you never know.........
Schrödinger's Cat
OPEN THE DAMN BOX!
Face of the franchise:
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Face-of-the-franchise move.
Face of the franchise:
He didn't say WHY his neck felt great!