Maybe it’s PTSD from our last SEC first round receiver, but I am concerned. When Toney was drafted and I listened to his first couple interviews and presser, I immediately wondered if he’d have the mental makeup to be successful, especially in NY. I’ve heard Nabers is a good kid and hard worker, but honestly if my job was on the line and it was between him and Odunze ( with everything that’s been said about his character and work-ethic , etc) there’d probably be a lean towards the character of Odunze.
Anyone else have similar hesitation?
If we proactively look for reasons to eliminate great talent becaise of perceived *character issues*, we will wind up with a team of Daniel Joneses. Nice guys, vanilla, boring, milquetoast, and likely bad at football.
It is hard enough to have a chance to select game changing talent. Players who are truly franchise-altering. If you also insist they are without any perceived blemishes, you'll always fail.
Malik Nabers and Toney are not in the same stratosphere in terms of talent.
So one should be wary of drafting explosive players because they might get hurt?
HUH?
So post them and state facts.
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Until we have a competent offensive line we will have more of the same.
Bowling alleys? No thanks. Cesspools filled with thugs and fat uncles. Not on my team, comrade.
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Bowling alleys? No thanks. Cesspools filled with thugs and fat uncles. Not on my team, comrade.
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Also, his DJ comments were taken out of context, and even if they weren't, so what? He's just saying what we all already know and see with our own eyes. About time someone said it out loud for the Giants brass to hear.
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What did he say that bothered you?
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There’s been other interviews and pressers recently.
What did he say that bothered you?
I keep asking in all these threada but have yet to hear anything substantial.
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Bowling alleys? No thanks. Cesspools filled with thugs and fat uncles. Not on my team, comrade.
and guys named "pal"
i'd also be fine picking the best OT or best pass rusher in the class. anything that raises the level of talent on this team.
it may be nothing (there were some concerns with kayvon) or it may be something. we dont know the answer but it can still be something that's concerning.
Also, his DJ comments were taken out of context, and even if they weren't, so what? He's just saying what we all already know and see with our own eyes. About time someone said it out loud for the Giants brass to hear.
This is the biggest problem this organization has.
Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I've watched everything I can find on Nabers and I haven't seen anything on video that would lead me to believe he has character concerns.
I'd love to see the interview in question.
This is what's so ridiculous about stooges like Pauline spreading rumors about young people on the Internet.
He's the most explosive. Harrison has the highest floor but maybe the lowest ceiling of the 3. Odunze has the height and dominant WR traits. I think all 3 are studs and I'd be happy with either but I think Nabers will be the best of the 3 and the biggest Diva.
Also, his DJ comments were taken out of context, and even if they weren't, so what? He's just saying what we all already know and see with our own eyes. About time someone said it out loud for the Giants brass to hear.
Having the energy to make the argument but not support it seems endemic around draft time. But I have the time today so I watched the pro day presser, which I've linked below. Right out the gate I know we had a problem when Nabers admitted he'd been up since 5am because it was going to be a special day. And it's only downhill from there. Lowlights include discussing the chip on his shoulder, complimenting his teammates, appearing to genuinely like Brian Daboll, and talking about trying to keep his teammates engaged and pumped.
Just put down the shovel buddy. You sound silly.
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Them for your satisfaction, robbie. Go watch a few if you haven’t. For me, especially where we are as a team, if two players are closely rated i would take the one without a single red flag. It seems like people love to put their flag in the sand without being able to substantiate why this could possibly be a concern taking a top pick. Go no watch some of his interviews recently. Go watch his presser after the pro day and tell me you see a humble, hard worker. Or tell me if you see a kid that struggles articulating points, made comments that were far from humble, including the DJ comment ( which just wasn’t smart regardless of it being true). It all remains to be seen what any of these players become, but considering the history of this franchise and WRs in this league of late, I think it worth considering as a dynamic.
Having the energy to make the argument but not support it seems endemic around draft time. But I have the time today so I watched the pro day presser, which I've linked below. Right out the gate I know we had a problem when Nabers admitted he'd been up since 5am because it was going to be a special day. And it's only downhill from there. Lowlights include discussing the chip on his shoulder, complimenting his teammates, appearing to genuinely like Brian Daboll, and talking about trying to keep his teammates engaged and pumped.
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Bold young athlete…
Been a lot of those that have destroyed their franchises in recent memory, buddy. But we forget all that trying to make a point versus having a discussion of personality or intelligence traits that might not translate. This is why this board get insufferable. Can’t have a discussion without attacking.
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Them for your satisfaction, robbie. Go watch a few if you haven’t. For me, especially where we are as a team, if two players are closely rated i would take the one without a single red flag. It seems like people love to put their flag in the sand without being able to substantiate why this could possibly be a concern taking a top pick. Go no watch some of his interviews recently. Go watch his presser after the pro day and tell me you see a humble, hard worker. Or tell me if you see a kid that struggles articulating points, made comments that were far from humble, including the DJ comment ( which just wasn’t smart regardless of it being true). It all remains to be seen what any of these players become, but considering the history of this franchise and WRs in this league of late, I think it worth considering as a dynamic.
Having the energy to make the argument but not support it seems endemic around draft time. But I have the time today so I watched the pro day presser, which I've linked below. Right out the gate I know we had a problem when Nabers admitted he'd been up since 5am because it was going to be a special day. And it's only downhill from there. Lowlights include discussing the chip on his shoulder, complimenting his teammates, appearing to genuinely like Brian Daboll, and talking about trying to keep his teammates engaged and pumped.
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Bold young athlete…
Been a lot of those that have destroyed their franchises in recent memory, buddy. But we forget all that trying to make a point versus having a discussion of personality or intelligence traits that might not translate. This is why this board get insufferable. Can’t have a discussion without attacking.
What are you talking about lol? You said you don't like his attitude in interviews. You were asked which interviews. You said you were too tired to link them (you must be EXHAUSTED), but encouraged we watch the pro day presser.
So I did. And it includes nothing you've talked about. Then you whine about being attacked. What are you talking about?
Watch the 7 minute presser. The one you told us to watch that you CLEARLY didn't. Then te us what the issue is. Please. Pretty please. With sugar on top. No attacks. Just hugs and kisses.
I didn't start the thread, you did. We're trying to understand what you're talking about but the mob mentality seems to be taking over.
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may not be perfect choir boys for Mara. Toney was a bad pick beyond just his personality questions. This isn't the same thing.
Also, his DJ comments were taken out of context, and even if they weren't, so what? He's just saying what we all already know and see with our own eyes. About time someone said it out loud for the Giants brass to hear.
Agreed.
+2. As a matter fact, I'd appreciate if more players expressed concern about our QB situation and actually motivated the team to stop being so passive about it.
You don't like him which, whatever, you do you. But don't pull a reason out of your ass and then tap dance when called on it.
150 bowler??? He isn't on my board anymore. Not even UDFA.
Bowling is his love. Football is just his job. Stay clear.
You don't like him which, whatever, you do you. But don't pull a reason out of your ass and then tap dance when called on it.
I already stated my reasons. How are you blindly neglecting the history of this organization with guys that have not been smart humans, and come in a fall apart here????
First we heard that we shouldn’t take a QB until we get the OL fixed, now we shouldn’t take ANY skill position player until we get the lines fixed? I’m glad you’re not the GM.
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I agree. It does make you fearful that you could end up with another Toney. Or the fact the Giants are going WR again in the 1st? You really have to make sure you’re getting the safest pick here. Especially in the condition the Giants are currently in. Plus, extremely explosive players tend to get injured more often. Look at the trend. Odell, Toney, and even Wan’Dale.
First we heard that we shouldn’t take a QB until we get the OL fixed, now we shouldn’t take ANY skill position player until we get the lines fixed? I’m glad you’re not the GM.
You keep drafting nothing but Olinemen until you have a season where they allow no sacks. Then you are free to build out the rest of the roster.
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If you don't like someone, if he rubs you the wrong way, just say that. There's nothing in the pro day presser, and likely not elsewhere, where he exhibits poor "intelligence and personality traits".
You don't like him which, whatever, you do you. But don't pull a reason out of your ass and then tap dance when called on it.
I already stated my reasons. How are you blindly neglecting the history of this organization with guys that have not been smart humans, and come in a fall apart here????
You actually haven’t. You’ve made incomplete statements and haven’t given us any reasons for your statements. He is not smart?! Why do you EXACTLY think that?