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NFT: NBA Play-in Tournament

Stu11 : 4/16/2024 3:13 pm
We start tonight with Lakers-Pels then Sac-GS as the nightcap. Pretty damn good doubleheader for a play-in. A lot of thought out there that Lebron and the Lakers may tank this one because they'd rather be the 8 seed and play OKC as opposed to the 7 and have to play Denver who they've lost 9 straight to, knowing they have a home game waiting vs GS/Sac if they lose. Anthony Davis is questionable as ususal but he has been for just about every game this year and plays most of the time. Will be interesting to see. Sac and GS have developed an interesting rivalry the past few seasons with the playoffs last year and that great game to make the quarters of the in-season tourney this year. Should be a fun watch.
Pels  
jestersdead : 4/16/2024 3:15 pm : link
just lost to LAL on Sunday, I have the Pels with a bounce back win and the Kings pulling out a close one vs GSW. Then GSW going into LA and upsetting the Lakers
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 3:17 pm : link
I think LAL & Golden State make it out of this tournament.
DDV ineligible for MIP  
ajr2456 : 4/16/2024 3:19 pm : link
Despite playing 81 games because it doesn’t count as playing in a game if you played less than 20 minutes. For awards he’s only played in 62 games.
The Pels have to be one of the weirdest teams in the NBA  
Stu11 : 4/16/2024 3:20 pm : link
They check a lot of boxes lineup wise and have a ton of talent but then just when you start believing in them they lay a complete egg like the in-season tourney championship and the other day vs the Lakers after winning multiple big games last week leading up to it.
RE: DDV ineligible for MIP  
widmerseyebrow : 4/16/2024 3:24 pm : link
In comment 16470978 ajr2456 said:
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Despite playing 81 games because it doesn’t count as playing in a game if you played less than 20 minutes. For awards he’s only played in 62 games.


Does that include his near misses?

"To receive credit for a game for purposes of award eligibility, a player must have been credited with at least 20 minutes played. However, two "near misses", in which the player appeared for 15 to 19 minutes, can be included in the 65-game count."

He'd still be one game short though...brutal.
Terry Rozier out for tomorrow's game  
shyster : 4/16/2024 3:41 pm : link
@ Sixers.

Neck injury. He killed the Knicks last time they played the Heat: 34 points, 8-11 from 3.
I'm seriously at a loss  
Spider43 : 4/16/2024 3:54 pm : link
About whether I'd like to play the Sixers or the Heat on Saturday. If Embiid is 'compromised', gimme' the Sixers. Otherwise, IDK.
RE: DDV ineligible for MIP  
Heisenberg : 4/16/2024 3:59 pm : link
In comment 16470978 ajr2456 said:
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Despite playing 81 games because it doesn’t count as playing in a game if you played less than 20 minutes. For awards he’s only played in 62 games.


hahaha, how dumb. He's top 50 in the league in minutes played
RE: Pels  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16470970 jestersdead said:
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just lost to LAL on Sunday, I have the Pels with a bounce back win and the Kings pulling out a close one vs GSW. Then GSW going into LA and upsetting the Lakers


If GSW loses to the kings - they’re done. Kings win and Lakers loss means they play each other.
Go Pelicans and Warriors  
UConn4523 : 4/16/2024 4:18 pm : link
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Knicks will murder the Sixers in my view  
djm : 4/16/2024 4:19 pm : link
Gimme the Sixers. I swear I can actually hear the groans from Philly when the Knicks wipe them out. Embid will get his. Maxey will too. Everyone else on Philly will be shut down.

I want no part of Miami and that's not a knock on the Knicks as much as just praise for Miami. Sixers don't have any pelts let alone the pelts that Miami boasts. Fuck Miami. Go the fuck away.

PS--Miami will beat Philly so buckle up.
RE: I'm seriously at a loss  
Optimus-NY : 4/16/2024 4:38 pm : link
In comment 16471009 Spider43 said:
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About whether I'd like to play the Sixers or the Heat on Saturday. If Embiid is 'compromised', gimme' the Sixers. Otherwise, IDK.


Gimmee the Sixers. I want no part of the Heat.
Lots of blather about "Oh the Knicks can't beat Philly with Embiid"  
Greg from LI : 4/16/2024 4:42 pm : link
The one time Embiid suited up against the Knicks this season, the Knicks beat the piss outta Philly, winning by 36 in their building.
I dont think Embiid is anywhere close to 100  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2024 5:26 pm : link
If you watch him he really cant move, everything is from 15 feet and out, he hasnt even dunked since he has been back and the Sixers played nobody...He is a force no matter what but Brunson is going to be able attack him at will..

As for Miami it will be interesting if they win how they guard Brunson, last year they were able to play zone and easily help and pack the paint because the Knicks didnt have shooters, this year they do, that strategy wont work..
Tanking the play-in doesn’t make any sense  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/16/2024 5:48 pm : link
LAL would have to play another game just to make it to the first round. They are also an old team - the playoff grind is hard enough without the extra games.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 5:52 pm : link
‘Tanking’ is idiotic AF in the play in tournament.
RE: DDV ineligible for MIP  
Strahan91 : 4/16/2024 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16470978 ajr2456 said:
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Despite playing 81 games because it doesn’t count as playing in a game if you played less than 20 minutes. For awards he’s only played in 62 games.

Same for Hartenstein who very well could've made an all-defense team if that wasn't the case. Complete BS
RE: ...  
BigBlueShock : 4/16/2024 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16470975 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think LAL & Golden State make it out of this tournament.

Really goin out on a limb huh? 😂
RE: RE: ...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16471177 BigBlueShock said:
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I think LAL & Golden State make it out of this tournament.


Really goin out on a limb huh? 😂


Haha. Oh yeah. And if Stern was still alive, you could take those two making it into the playoffs to the bank.
RE: Lots of blather about  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/16/2024 7:07 pm : link
In comment 16471057 Greg from LI said:
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The one time Embiid suited up against the Knicks this season, the Knicks beat the piss outta Philly, winning by 36 in their building.


The dumbest take I saw today was from Nick Wright with Cowherd saying the Knicks will get upset because they play at such a high level already they can't raise their game any higher. WTF does that even mean???
Thx for the reminder.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 7:09 pm : link
I love playoff basketball.
RE: RE: Lots of blather about  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2024 7:11 pm : link
In comment 16471190 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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The one time Embiid suited up against the Knicks this season, the Knicks beat the piss outta Philly, winning by 36 in their building.



The dumbest take I saw today was from Nick Wright with Cowherd saying the Knicks will get upset because they play at such a high level already they can't raise their game any higher. WTF does that even mean???


It means that he doesnt think the Knicks have the talent and that they played above their heads in the regular season
RE: RE: RE: Lots of blather about  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/16/2024 7:14 pm : link
In comment 16471199 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16471057 Greg from LI said:


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The one time Embiid suited up against the Knicks this season, the Knicks beat the piss outta Philly, winning by 36 in their building.



The dumbest take I saw today was from Nick Wright with Cowherd saying the Knicks will get upset because they play at such a high level already they can't raise their game any higher. WTF does that even mean???



It means that he doesnt think the Knicks have the talent and that they played above their heads in the regular season


Welp we shall see
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 7:18 pm : link
76ers don’t scare me. Miami does, to a degree …they seem to be another team come the playoffs.
People still not giving the Knicks their due  
steve in ky : 4/16/2024 7:19 pm : link
This Knicks team are a special bunch that seemed destined for a good run at it. It’s going to be a fun ride
RE: …  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/16/2024 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16471204 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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76ers don’t scare me. Miami does, to a degree …they seem to be another team come the playoffs.


Neither scares me. This isn't last year's Heat & Butler didn't end the season well. Embiid disappears in the playoffs plus he's still not healthy. He's not moving well and I don't expect him to hustle. If he were healthy another story
I don’t really care which of the two the Knicks face  
steve in ky : 4/16/2024 7:24 pm : link
I just want them to beat the snot out of each other for the privilege of playing the Knicks. Double OT would be nice
Larry.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 7:30 pm : link
Heat didn’t finish all too hot last season before making a run to the Finals.
RE: Larry.  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/16/2024 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16471221 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Heat didn’t finish all too hot last season before making a run to the Finals.


I wish I knew who said the stat but the heat are at the bottom of clutch plays with Detroit and DC. Last year they were in the top half. Butler has also not been on his game. I'll take playoff Brunson.... We shall see
Pelicans coach  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 8:13 pm : link
Is acting like this game 55 of the year. You can’t have two of Ingram, Zion, and Mcculom on the bench at any time.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 8:17 pm : link
Go Pels!
RE: …  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16471273 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Go Pels!


Don’t get your hopes up. Their inexperience is showing. Taking a ton of bad shots this quarter.
Welp  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 8:33 pm : link
Time to root for the Nuggets
RE: DDV ineligible for MIP  
TyreeHelmet : 4/16/2024 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16470978 ajr2456 said:
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Despite playing 81 games because it doesn’t count as playing in a game if you played less than 20 minutes. For awards he’s only played in 62 games.


The NBA is so poorly run in certain aspects. This is a joke.
These refs love LeBron and co.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 8:37 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 8:38 pm : link
LAL came to play in the second quarter.

LBJ is amazing. He isn’t MJ, but he’s top 5 all time.
RE: These refs love LeBron and co.  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 8:47 pm : link
In comment 16471295 BleedBlue46 said:
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16-4 free throws. Scott Foster is in this game for a reason
RE: RE: These refs love LeBron and co.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2024 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16471309 JT039 said:
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16-4 free throws. Scott Foster is in this game for a reason



As Stern would say, ideal Finals matchup would be Lakers vs. Lakers.
Reggie Miller, after Zion went coast to coast  
shyster : 4/16/2024 8:51 pm : link
"This is a guy six three, six four . . ."

Where did that come from? Zion officially measured at 6'6" when he came into the league, after Duke listed him at 6'7".

And making him shorter wouldn't make his ball handling more impressive, which was the tone of the remark.
What the hell are the pelicans doing  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/16/2024 9:02 pm : link
It's like they never played together before
I rewatched that play where reeves and LJ "saved" it  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:03 pm : link
From ob a few times, LJ touched the ball with his right foot out of bounds 100%
Lebron's antics with the refs  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:09 pm : link
Are beyond annoying. He thinks every single call is supposed to go his way, instead of just the vast majority. Cmonn LeBron they gotta make it at least believable
If the Lakers games are reffed this way  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 9:12 pm : link
Everyone is playing for 2nd.

It’s beyond annoying. All they do is bitch ans complain and have the highest disparity in free throws in the league.
RE: If the Lakers games are reffed this way  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:17 pm : link
In comment 16471342 JT039 said:
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Everyone is playing for 2nd.

It’s beyond annoying. All they do is bitch ans complain and have the highest disparity in free throws in the league.


I can imagine as an opposing player it would be hard to not let then get into your head and affect your play too
No replay on that foul on ad cuz it wasn't a foul  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:20 pm : link
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Zion's like wow yall really like that  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:24 pm : link
After goaltending on his last attempt and no foul called there
Finally a foul call for Zion  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:25 pm : link
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Lakers free throws  
jestersdead : 4/16/2024 9:32 pm : link
It’s absolutely ridiculous how many more free throws they shoot than the opponent. Free throw differential is like +350 this year and +800 that last three years.

Hard to beat a team in the playoffs when they shoot more free throws than you
Pelicans aren't helping jacking up 3s when Zion is the  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:36 pm : link
Core of their offense and he's playing well.
I have to retract  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 9:51 pm : link
My statement on Willie Green.

McCollum was straight ass tonight and is sticking with what’s working and that’s Ingram and CJ on the bench.

Zion has been insane tonight.
LeBron gets rewarded for pushing off  
UConn4523 : 4/16/2024 9:55 pm : link
terrible
Even Reggie didn't like that call LeBron got.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:55 pm : link
..
And Zion is hurt  
shyster : 4/16/2024 9:55 pm : link
Cursed.
And another one  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:56 pm : link
...on a clean steal
RE: And Zion is hurt  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16471417 shyster said:
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Cursed.


Ya really sad his body can't hold up
Alvarado talks to much  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2024 10:00 pm : link
just play man, talk shit after a great pass then proceed to turn it over which the Lakers get an Alley oop then the guy you talk shit to hits a 3
Nevermind  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 10:01 pm : link
Nevermind
JT039 : 10:00 pm : link : reply
Green puts in Dyson Daniels who gives up a wide open 3 by leaving ball side corner. Who leaves Russell to guard Austin Reeves of all people.

These coaches overthink too much.
Gotta feel for Zion  
larryflower37 : 4/16/2024 10:02 pm : link
Just can't stay healthy.
And Scott foster  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 10:05 pm : link
With the game ending call.

Pelicans never had a chance with this cheat in the game.
Looked like a non-contact injury  
shyster : 4/16/2024 10:05 pm : link
when he took the hard jab step at the top of his move. Finished it off but damage done.
Get a quick 2  
jestersdead : 4/16/2024 10:07 pm : link
And extend the game
This sums up this game  
JT039 : 4/16/2024 10:11 pm : link
Fouls
Pelicans 23
Lakers 12

Free throws
Lakers - 29
Pelicans - 15
Reggie Miller is a moron.  
bceagle05 : 4/16/2024 10:14 pm : link
Shouldn’t be anywhere near a microphone in big games. Yeah let’s miss a FT on purpose and open the door to a game-tying three instead of making it, going up four, and ending the game. Tough call there.
Knicks play Saturday at 6pm.  
bceagle05 : 4/16/2024 10:28 pm : link
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RE: Reggie Miller is a moron.  
Larry in Pencilvania : 4/16/2024 11:06 pm : link
In comment 16471438 bceagle05 said:
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Shouldn’t be anywhere near a microphone in big games. Yeah let’s miss a FT on purpose and open the door to a game-tying three instead of making it, going up four, and ending the game. Tough call there.


Miller sounds like a fool. He's almost 60 and uses phrases a 25 to would use so he sounds hip.
RE: This sums up this game  
larryflower37 : 4/16/2024 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16471435 JT039 said:
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Fouls
Pelicans 23
Lakers 12

Free throws
Lakers - 29
Pelicans - 15

They have an insane amount of free throws this season like 200 more than the Next team. ..
I can't wait until James retires.
RE: Looked like a non-contact injury  
BleedBlue46 : 4/16/2024 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16471430 shyster said:
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when he took the hard jab step at the top of his move. Finished it off but damage done.


Yep, feel bad for him. His game is great just can't hold up
Sacramento blowing out Golden State.  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2024 12:26 am : link
Another ringless season for CP3. Poor thing.
I hope Sac beats NO  
Stu11 : 4/17/2024 1:12 am : link
I love that playoff atmosphere in Sac. Plus OKC vs Sac would be a really fun series.
Warriors should consider blowing it up and trading Curry while  
Metnut : 4/17/2024 9:20 am : link
he has value. Instead, they'll keep chasing the play-in for the next 3-5 years while Curry and the rest continue to decline.

I understand there's value to having Curry spend his entire career in a GSW uniform, so that's all fine, but there's a price to pay for that. The price to pay for that is 3-5 of irrelevance, followed by a lengthy rebuild afterward.

OKC is the gold standard for a rebuild, but few teams have the vision to pull something like that off.
RE: Warriors should consider blowing it up and trading Curry while  
nygiants16 : 4/17/2024 9:33 am : link
In comment 16471658 Metnut said:
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he has value. Instead, they'll keep chasing the play-in for the next 3-5 years while Curry and the rest continue to decline.

I understand there's value to having Curry spend his entire career in a GSW uniform, so that's all fine, but there's a price to pay for that. The price to pay for that is 3-5 of irrelevance, followed by a lengthy rebuild afterward.

OKC is the gold standard for a rebuild, but few teams have the vision to pull something like that off.


Curry would have to go to GS and be like can you please trade me
is it saturday yet?  
nygiants16 : 4/17/2024 9:59 am : link
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If all that matters was the court than trading Curry  
UConn4523 : 4/17/2024 10:07 am : link
would make sense. Be he’s responsible for so much revenue for that team that I don’t see how they can do it. If I were a Warriors fan I’d be thankful for the titles and would want curry to retire a Warrior. If a shitty rebuild happens after, so be it.
RE: If all that matters was the court than trading Curry  
nygiants16 : 4/17/2024 10:12 am : link
In comment 16471786 UConn4523 said:
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would make sense. Be he’s responsible for so much revenue for that team that I don’t see how they can do it. If I were a Warriors fan I’d be thankful for the titles and would want curry to retire a Warrior. If a shitty rebuild happens after, so be it.


The money and revenue is only going to last for so long, if they stink and are constantly losing the brand will start to lose its luster regardless of if Curry is on the team..

Maybe they get lucky and Kuminga keeps improving but they have missed on draft picks, Thompson and Green are both done and Thompson wont be on the team next year, their bench is trash and Paul who was probably their best bench piece is gone..

If they have 30 wins next year the money and revenue is not going to be there
But who could trade for Curry  
JT039 : 4/17/2024 10:15 am : link
Without gutting the team?

Milwaukee is probably the ideal fit but GS won’t want Lillard. A team like Atlanta? Trading Young and a bunch of picks? The ideal team would be probably the Magic but Paolo is off the table and Wagner, Suggs, and a shit ton of picks won’t be enough either.
I'd imagine if the Warriors were to entertain trading Curry  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 10:18 am : link
it would only happen if he wanted to go elsewhere and they'd probably let him essentially choose his destination which will soften the return. I actually think it might be more likely that Lebron wins up in GS if/when the Lakers lose in the first round.
RE: But who could trade for Curry  
Metnut : 4/17/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16471820 JT039 said:
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Without gutting the team?

Milwaukee is probably the ideal fit but GS won’t want Lillard. A team like Atlanta? Trading Young and a bunch of picks? The ideal team would be probably the Magic but Paolo is off the table and Wagner, Suggs, and a shit ton of picks won’t be enough either.


The Sixers could make sense to try and make a run with Embiid. They'd have to offer a huge amount of picks and swaps just to get the ball rolling.
RE: But who could trade for Curry  
nygiants16 : 4/17/2024 10:26 am : link
In comment 16471820 JT039 said:
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Without gutting the team?

Milwaukee is probably the ideal fit but GS won’t want Lillard. A team like Atlanta? Trading Young and a bunch of picks? The ideal team would be probably the Magic but Paolo is off the table and Wagner, Suggs, and a shit ton of picks won’t be enough either.


Curry would pick the team and it would most likely be a young player, salary filler and drsft picks
I don’t see Curry asking out  
ajr2456 : 4/17/2024 10:34 am : link
He’s won enough. He doesn’t really have anything to prove .
RE: RE: If all that matters was the court than trading Curry  
UConn4523 : 4/17/2024 10:42 am : link
In comment 16471805 nygiants16 said:
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would make sense. Be he’s responsible for so much revenue for that team that I don’t see how they can do it. If I were a Warriors fan I’d be thankful for the titles and would want curry to retire a Warrior. If a shitty rebuild happens after, so be it.



The money and revenue is only going to last for so long, if they stink and are constantly losing the brand will start to lose its luster regardless of if Curry is on the team..

Maybe they get lucky and Kuminga keeps improving but they have missed on draft picks, Thompson and Green are both done and Thompson wont be on the team next year, their bench is trash and Paul who was probably their best bench piece is gone..

If they have 30 wins next year the money and revenue is not going to be there


I dont agree, his brand is almost bulletproof and his value to GS even in a losing season is immense. Trading him (what can they even get) may not even work out and now you are in a rebuild and have no star power. I don’t really think NBA trades work that well, you basically are collecting future assets and hoping that the incoming class is good. Look how long it’s taken the timberwolves.

I just don’t see it unless he wants out. It’s smart business for both parties to stay as is IMO.
RE: RE: RE: If all that matters was the court than trading Curry  
nygiants16 : 4/17/2024 11:04 am : link
In comment 16471907 UConn4523 said:
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would make sense. Be he’s responsible for so much revenue for that team that I don’t see how they can do it. If I were a Warriors fan I’d be thankful for the titles and would want curry to retire a Warrior. If a shitty rebuild happens after, so be it.



The money and revenue is only going to last for so long, if they stink and are constantly losing the brand will start to lose its luster regardless of if Curry is on the team..

Maybe they get lucky and Kuminga keeps improving but they have missed on draft picks, Thompson and Green are both done and Thompson wont be on the team next year, their bench is trash and Paul who was probably their best bench piece is gone..

If they have 30 wins next year the money and revenue is not going to be there



I dont agree, his brand is almost bulletproof and his value to GS even in a losing season is immense. Trading him (what can they even get) may not even work out and now you are in a rebuild and have no star power. I don’t really think NBA trades work that well, you basically are collecting future assets and hoping that the incoming class is good. Look how long it’s taken the timberwolves.

I just don’t see it unless he wants out. It’s smart business for both parties to stay as is IMO.


I agree they wont trade him unless he asks out
RE: RE: If all that matters was the court than trading Curry  
TyreeHelmet : 4/17/2024 12:41 pm : link
In comment 16471805 nygiants16 said:
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would make sense. Be he’s responsible for so much revenue for that team that I don’t see how they can do it. If I were a Warriors fan I’d be thankful for the titles and would want curry to retire a Warrior. If a shitty rebuild happens after, so be it.



The money and revenue is only going to last for so long, if they stink and are constantly losing the brand will start to lose its luster regardless of if Curry is on the team..

Maybe they get lucky and Kuminga keeps improving but they have missed on draft picks, Thompson and Green are both done and Thompson wont be on the team next year, their bench is trash and Paul who was probably their best bench piece is gone..

If they have 30 wins next year the money and revenue is not going to be there


That ownership and Bob Myers etc are highly overrated. They inherited the splash brothers, get credit for Durant but got insanely lucky how that broke down and have completely missed on some very high draft picks.
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