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Giants talking to the Niners about Aiyuk

Rickey213 : 4/17/2024 10:47 am
Expect he gets traded soon, not sure to who though. Other teams interested as well.
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RE: This is why NYG haven't had mid 2nd round WR in for visits maybe?  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:11 am : link
In comment 16472000 Rjanyg said:
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Go QB in round 1

Trade for Vet WR with 2nd round pick.

This is smart football moves if you ask me.


Pick 47 and conditional 2025 pick, I'm guessing they would want 2 2nds or a 2nd and 3rd at least.
I think compensation could  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2024 11:14 am : link
Be less this year and more next year, making this even better for us..
RE: RE: Pugh stated this on his draft video  
gersh : 4/17/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16472001 Essex said:
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In comment 16471993 Rudy5757 said:


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Give up 6 and 70 for Aiyuk. But he wanted to stay with DJ.

Not sure it makes sense to trade for Aiyuk if we trade our #1. Players get traded for much less these days. If we get him for our 3rd that would be great, other than that trading away more picks and paying the high salary is not a good long term plan



That would be absolute GM malpractice to give up 6 for Aiyuk. That could be one of the worst trades of all time.

+1
Can't be
RE: RE: Not sure I believe this but...  
DaveInTampa : 4/17/2024 11:15 am : link
In comment 16471964 GFAN52 said:
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How crazy would it be if we have Maye throwing to Aiyuk this season?



Even if they draft Maye I doubt you seeing him throw passes until 2025.


If DJ and/or Lock are playing poorly and the team gets off to a 2-5 start, and people are calling for Daboll's head, hard to see how Maye (or any other qb they draft) stays on the bench all season
This is our same Rickey  
Matt in SGS : 4/17/2024 11:15 am : link
who broke the Burns trade here. So Eric is right, Rickey, you are on the cusp of Asshat Hall of Fame stuff here!
Seems like some people on this thread are really underrating  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 11:16 am : link
Aiyuk. He's elite. 2nd highest PFF grade amongst WR's last year (behind only Tyreek Hill), 7th in receiving yards in 16 games on far fewer targets than the guys above him, only 2 drops on catchable targets, highest yards per target in the NFL of receivers with a minimum of 50 targets.
RE: I think compensation could  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 11:17 am : link
In comment 16472011 jvm52106 said:
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Be less this year and more next year, making this even better for us..

Agreed. I would think the main piece to a deal would be the 2025 1st
reeks of a '70s era Giants panic move.  
Victor in CT : 4/17/2024 11:17 am : link
they don't have enough players, so trade picks for and expensive WR who will be leaving a great team to come to a shit team.

Will be fun though to predict who will be the Randy White to Aiyuk's Craig Morton ;-)
RE: This is our same Rickey  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/17/2024 11:18 am : link
In comment 16472015 Matt in SGS said:
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who broke the Burns trade here. So Eric is right, Rickey, you are on the cusp of Asshat Hall of Fame stuff here!


Same poster.

However, I was also told of the Burns trade by another BBI behind the scenes days earlier.

 
christian : 4/17/2024 11:18 am : link
I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.
What his CAP number for this season?  
US1 Giants : 4/17/2024 11:19 am : link
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I’ve always had a gut feeling he’d end up here.  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2024 11:19 am : link
Perfect complement to Wan’dale, Slayton and Hyatt too.
RE: Seems like some people on this thread are really underrating  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:20 am : link
In comment 16472017 Strahan91 said:
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Aiyuk. He's elite. 2nd highest PFF grade amongst WR's last year (behind only Tyreek Hill), 7th in receiving yards in 16 games on far fewer targets than the guys above him, only 2 drops on catchable targets, highest yards per target in the NFL of receivers with a minimum of 50 targets.


Totally, Aiyuk is a legit #1 and dangerous with every route ran. Also, his injury history is nice. He seems to stay pretty healthy and the way he moves is good to avoid lower body injuries. He has a great attitude too. Maye or JJM rd 1, Aiyuk for pick 70 and 2025 2nd or pick 47 and 2025 3rd that could escalate to 2nd? Sign me up!
RE: RE: This is our same Rickey  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 11:20 am : link
In comment 16472020 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16472015 Matt in SGS said:


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who broke the Burns trade here. So Eric is right, Rickey, you are on the cusp of Asshat Hall of Fame stuff here!



Same poster.

However, I was also told of the Burns trade by another BBI behind the scenes days earlier.

On twitter Rickey broke some other news during FA before anyone else including the Calvin Ridley deal which seemed to come out of nowhere
RE: I’ve always had a gut feeling he’d end up here.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:21 am : link
In comment 16472024 bceagle05 said:
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Perfect complement to Wan’dale, Slayton and Hyatt too.


Agreed, I was going to say that. He would be a perfect #1 to pair with them.
RE: RE: This is our same Rickey  
Rickey213 : 4/17/2024 11:21 am : link
In comment 16472020 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16472015 Matt in SGS said:


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who broke the Burns trade here. So Eric is right, Rickey, you are on the cusp of Asshat Hall of Fame stuff here!



Same poster.

However, I was also told of the Burns trade by another BBI behind the scenes days earlier.


Eric is a legend. When everyone called me a troll in that thread, he backed me up and said he heard the same thing. Re2pect.
RE: …  
mphbullet36 : 4/17/2024 11:21 am : link
In comment 16472022 christian said:
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I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.


acquiring Aiyuk is not going to be leaps and bounds more expensive then acquiring Burns. Especially with you have to pay Aiyuk top dollar.

If someone was offering a 2nd and a 1st rounder Aiyuk would have been traded months ago.

Looking past 2024  
Dang Man : 4/17/2024 11:21 am : link
If we trade a first for him and draft a QB at six then net/net we save money by having the ability to cut Jones next year as he makes more than Aiyuk will be making. Whether we draft a QB or WR at six they’ll be playing on a rookie contract for 4 years. I wouldn’t mind this though it can’t be decided in a vacuum. I’m for it if one of the top 4 QBs are available. Not a fan of Pennix or Nix.

why would the Giants trade their 6th pick this year  
Essex : 4/17/2024 11:22 am : link
for Aiyuk. If you want a receiver, just draft a cost contained one for four years. If you want to draft a QB, you are not giving up that 6th pick for Aiyuk. There is no way, the 6th pick can be on the table.
RE: What his CAP number for this season?  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:22 am : link
In comment 16472023 US1 Giants said:
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He would get an extension and if we got him his 2024 contract would be low. Money would begin to hit in 2025 and big hits would begin 2026 with DJ completely off the books.
A 2025 first rounder would be painful  
bceagle05 : 4/17/2024 11:23 am : link
to give up in any deal. We better win some games next year if we do it. I’d hate to deliver San Fran a top 10 pick - they have enough talent.
RE: What his CAP number for this season?  
christian : 4/17/2024 11:23 am : link
In comment 16472023 US1 Giants said:
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He's on his 5th option at ~14M. The Giants would obviously extend and restructure.
RE: why would the Giants trade their 6th pick this year  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:23 am : link
In comment 16472036 Essex said:
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for Aiyuk. If you want a receiver, just draft a cost contained one for four years. If you want to draft a QB, you are not giving up that 6th pick for Aiyuk. There is no way, the 6th pick can be on the table.


Pugh has no clue, we would not trade 6 for aiyuk lol
RE: A 2025 first rounder would be painful  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:24 am : link
In comment 16472038 bceagle05 said:
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to give up in any deal. We better win some games next year if we do it. I’d hate to deliver San Fran a top 10 pick - they have enough talent.


Look at the Tyreek Hill trade. The 2025 1st would be in the trade for Maye. No chance it would be for Aiyuk.

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Hill was traded to Miami for five draft picks — 2022 first-, second-, and fourth-round picks as well as 2023 fourth- and sixth-round picks —
RE: A 2025 first rounder would be painful  
Sean : 4/17/2024 11:24 am : link
In comment 16472038 bceagle05 said:
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to give up in any deal. We better win some games next year if we do it. I’d hate to deliver San Fran a top 10 pick - they have enough talent.

It would be, but it's an aggressive build.

QB at 6
Burns for 39
Aiyuk for a 2025 first
RE: …  
gersh : 4/17/2024 11:26 am : link
In comment 16472022 christian said:
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I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.

A 2025 1st is likely to be to be a top 5 pick
Trading this years second to get and pay Burns - ok?
Next year's 1st to pay Aiyuk? No, please no.
I believe  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/17/2024 11:27 am : link
Rickey213 said he was not posting on Twitter, that it was someone else.
RE: RE: …  
JonC : 4/17/2024 11:27 am : link
In comment 16472046 gersh said:
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I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.


A 2025 1st is likely to be to be a top 5 pick
Trading this years second to get and pay Burns - ok?
Next year's 1st to pay Aiyuk? No, please no.


I don't like it one bit either if that's the scope, holy overpay.
RE: RE: A 2025 first rounder would be painful  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 11:27 am : link
In comment 16472043 BleedBlue46 said:
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to give up in any deal. We better win some games next year if we do it. I’d hate to deliver San Fran a top 10 pick - they have enough talent.



Look at the Tyreek Hill trade. The 2025 1st would be in the trade for Maye. No chance it would be for Aiyuk.



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Hill was traded to Miami for five draft picks — 2022 first-, second-, and fourth-round picks as well as 2023 fourth- and sixth-round picks —


Strongly disagree. I don't see a world where Aiyuk is traded for a package that doesn't include a 1st round pick. Hill, AJ Brown, Davante Adams, original Diggs trade, and even Marquise Brown all had a 1st in the deal
any  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/17/2024 11:28 am : link
#1 pick for Aiyuk given the state of this team seems questionable.
What makes Aiyuk  
compton : 4/17/2024 11:28 am : link
worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.
RE: any  
gersh : 4/17/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16472051 Eric from BBI said:
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#1 pick for Aiyuk given the state of this team seems questionable.

If by questionable - you mean insane, I agree.
RE: I believe  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16472048 Eric from BBI said:
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Rickey213 said he was not posting on Twitter, that it was someone else.

Pretty sure that was one of the Rickey copycat accounts (was Rickey212 or Rickey214) he was referring to when someone asked him if it was him that reported the Giants and NE having a deal in place for 3
this  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/17/2024 11:29 am : link
would also throw into question about Schoen's repeated statements about the commitment to build this team through the draft.
RE: any  
JonC : 4/17/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16472051 Eric from BBI said:
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#1 pick for Aiyuk given the state of this team seems questionable.


Ultra aggressive and win-now focused. Aiyuk's not consistently shown to be that caliber of player or personality.
RE: What makes Aiyuk  
gersh : 4/17/2024 11:30 am : link
In comment 16472053 compton said:
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worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.

Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/17/2024 11:30 am : link
Giving up a 1 for him would be idiotic, thus I fully expect us to do it.
gersh  
JonC : 4/17/2024 11:30 am : link
Exactly.
Just remember  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/17/2024 11:30 am : link
from Bono to Bozo can happen in just a snap

this guy likes attention
Ricky is an asshat  
leatherneck570 : 4/17/2024 11:31 am : link
he posts without rebuke
Made lots of calls
But hope he’s right about Aiyuk
This doesn't make sense for the Giants  
ZogZerg : 4/17/2024 11:31 am : link
Highly doubt this happens.
RE: RE: …  
ajr2456 : 4/17/2024 11:32 am : link
In comment 16472046 gersh said:
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I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.


A 2025 1st is likely to be to be a top 5 pick
Trading this years second to get and pay Burns - ok?
Next year's 1st to pay Aiyuk? No, please no.


What if it’s not though? What if they got Maye and Aiyuk and had a season like the Texans?
I'm all for it  
Rave7 : 4/17/2024 11:32 am : link
if we get a QB in the 1st round, we can trade for Ayuk.
A rookie QB contract with a high salary ED and WR makes sense. (Even if we pay DJ a lot this year.)
I guess this is contingency plan just in case we don't get a QB in the 1st rd. I'm still curious why the Giants didn't do 30 visits with 2nd-tier WR. Maybe they want to pair a rookie QB with a veteran WR.
Couple thoughts  
GiantsFan84 : 4/17/2024 11:33 am : link
Makes me think they either have their QB trade worked out. The rumors were New England might look to trade down if Daniels wasn’t on the clock. It now seems like Daniel’s goes 2.

If that’s the case I can see the move to try and get aiyuk. Aiyuk is very good. Make the environment as friendly as possible for the young qb.

But with that being said I don’t know if I love the idea of trading for aiyuk. I just don’t think this team is a contender with or without aiyuk. I’d prefer to try and draft one and use my cap money elsewhere
RE: RE: What makes Aiyuk  
Strahan91 : 4/17/2024 11:33 am : link
In comment 16472058 gersh said:
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In comment 16472053 compton said:


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worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.


Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?

The idea would almost certainly be that they plan to use 6 to get a QB, not trade 6 for Aiyuk
What’s he worth?  
armstead98 : 4/17/2024 11:35 am : link
A 3rd or 4th?
Trade up for Maye  
JonC : 4/17/2024 11:36 am : link
get the WR later.
Several thoughts  
rich in DC : 4/17/2024 11:37 am : link
One- People always overestimate the trade cost for a guy a team is willing to trade because of contract demands. Just look at Burns- the Panthers got a second and had to like it. The 49er will not get a 1st rounder for him unless its a very bottom of the 1st pick. Most likely he gets dealt for a 2nd rounder and a pick next year.

Two- if the Giants traded their second round pick, we have to consider the possibility that this would mean that they plan to trade down from #6. They might have something lined up where they know they can move down and get several picks for #6 to offset the loss of the second rounder. I suspect that the Giants would be unwilling to make a deal and go into the draft with only 5 picks, and 4 of them in the 3rd round and after.

Three- I would note that pretty rickey is saying they are talking, not that a deal is imminent. However, if the Giants DO make the deal, taken together with the lack of top 30 visits by WR, the Giants might be signaling no WR picks. if that's the case, a move down from 6 looks wise. I suspect that if the Giants signal they are willing to move down, hypothetically Atlanta or the Jets might want to get ahead of Tenn. to get a shot at Alt.

That could allow the Giants to maximize the value of that pick and then move down again to the high teens. For example, if Penix is on the board, would the Raiders or Denver move up to 8 or 10 to get him?


RE: RE: RE: What makes Aiyuk  
gersh : 4/17/2024 11:37 am : link
In comment 16472070 Strahan91 said:
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worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.


Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?


The idea would almost certainly be that they plan to use 6 to get a QB, not trade 6 for Aiyuk

Agreed
But its a safe bet that next year's 1st is going to be a similar spot. Paying top dollar for a player and also lose a top of the draft pick? No thank you.
Thinking in terms of 5 year windows  
Rjanyg : 4/17/2024 11:38 am : link
Burns locked up for 5 years
Trade for Aiyuk, sign him for 5 years
Trade up to 3 for Maye Giants have control for 5 years.

Jones is gone after this year.

Thomas, Dex signed long term.

This is not as crazy an idea as some here think.

It will cost some draft picks which can flame out. Acquiring viable NFL talent is sometimes the safest way to go.
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