Give up 6 and 70 for Aiyuk. But he wanted to stay with DJ.
Not sure it makes sense to trade for Aiyuk if we trade our #1. Players get traded for much less these days. If we get him for our 3rd that would be great, other than that trading away more picks and paying the high salary is not a good long term plan
That would be absolute GM malpractice to give up 6 for Aiyuk. That could be one of the worst trades of all time.
How crazy would it be if we have Maye throwing to Aiyuk this season?
Even if they draft Maye I doubt you seeing him throw passes until 2025.
If DJ and/or Lock are playing poorly and the team gets off to a 2-5 start, and people are calling for Daboll's head, hard to see how Maye (or any other qb they draft) stays on the bench all season
Aiyuk. He's elite. 2nd highest PFF grade amongst WR's last year (behind only Tyreek Hill), 7th in receiving yards in 16 games on far fewer targets than the guys above him, only 2 drops on catchable targets, highest yards per target in the NFL of receivers with a minimum of 50 targets.
Aiyuk. He's elite. 2nd highest PFF grade amongst WR's last year (behind only Tyreek Hill), 7th in receiving yards in 16 games on far fewer targets than the guys above him, only 2 drops on catchable targets, highest yards per target in the NFL of receivers with a minimum of 50 targets.
Totally, Aiyuk is a legit #1 and dangerous with every route ran. Also, his injury history is nice. He seems to stay pretty healthy and the way he moves is good to avoid lower body injuries. He has a great attitude too. Maye or JJM rd 1, Aiyuk for pick 70 and 2025 2nd or pick 47 and 2025 3rd that could escalate to 2nd? Sign me up!
If we trade a first for him and draft a QB at six then net/net we save money by having the ability to cut Jones next year as he makes more than Aiyuk will be making. Whether we draft a QB or WR at six they’ll be playing on a rookie contract for 4 years. I wouldn’t mind this though it can’t be decided in a vacuum. I’m for it if one of the top 4 QBs are available. Not a fan of Pennix or Nix.
why would the Giants trade their 6th pick this year
for Aiyuk. If you want a receiver, just draft a cost contained one for four years. If you want to draft a QB, you are not giving up that 6th pick for Aiyuk. There is no way, the 6th pick can be on the table.
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He would get an extension and if we got him his 2024 contract would be low. Money would begin to hit in 2025 and big hits would begin 2026 with DJ completely off the books.
for Aiyuk. If you want a receiver, just draft a cost contained one for four years. If you want to draft a QB, you are not giving up that 6th pick for Aiyuk. There is no way, the 6th pick can be on the table.
Pugh has no clue, we would not trade 6 for aiyuk lol
to give up in any deal. We better win some games next year if we do it. I’d hate to deliver San Fran a top 10 pick - they have enough talent.
Look at the Tyreek Hill trade. The 2025 1st would be in the trade for Maye. No chance it would be for Aiyuk.
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Strongly disagree. I don't see a world where Aiyuk is traded for a package that doesn't include a 1st round pick. Hill, AJ Brown, Davante Adams, original Diggs trade, and even Marquise Brown all had a 1st in the deal
Rickey213 said he was not posting on Twitter, that it was someone else.
Pretty sure that was one of the Rickey copycat accounts (was Rickey212 or Rickey214) he was referring to when someone asked him if it was him that reported the Giants and NE having a deal in place for 3
if we get a QB in the 1st round, we can trade for Ayuk.
A rookie QB contract with a high salary ED and WR makes sense. (Even if we pay DJ a lot this year.)
I guess this is contingency plan just in case we don't get a QB in the 1st rd. I'm still curious why the Giants didn't do 30 visits with 2nd-tier WR. Maybe they want to pair a rookie QB with a veteran WR.
Makes me think they either have their QB trade worked out. The rumors were New England might look to trade down if Daniels wasn’t on the clock. It now seems like Daniel’s goes 2.
If that’s the case I can see the move to try and get aiyuk. Aiyuk is very good. Make the environment as friendly as possible for the young qb.
But with that being said I don’t know if I love the idea of trading for aiyuk. I just don’t think this team is a contender with or without aiyuk. I’d prefer to try and draft one and use my cap money elsewhere
One- People always overestimate the trade cost for a guy a team is willing to trade because of contract demands. Just look at Burns- the Panthers got a second and had to like it. The 49er will not get a 1st rounder for him unless its a very bottom of the 1st pick. Most likely he gets dealt for a 2nd rounder and a pick next year.
Two- if the Giants traded their second round pick, we have to consider the possibility that this would mean that they plan to trade down from #6. They might have something lined up where they know they can move down and get several picks for #6 to offset the loss of the second rounder. I suspect that the Giants would be unwilling to make a deal and go into the draft with only 5 picks, and 4 of them in the 3rd round and after.
Three- I would note that pretty rickey is saying they are talking, not that a deal is imminent. However, if the Giants DO make the deal, taken together with the lack of top 30 visits by WR, the Giants might be signaling no WR picks. if that's the case, a move down from 6 looks wise. I suspect that if the Giants signal they are willing to move down, hypothetically Atlanta or the Jets might want to get ahead of Tenn. to get a shot at Alt.
That could allow the Giants to maximize the value of that pick and then move down again to the high teens. For example, if Penix is on the board, would the Raiders or Denver move up to 8 or 10 to get him?
worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.
Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?
The idea would almost certainly be that they plan to use 6 to get a QB, not trade 6 for Aiyuk
Agreed
But its a safe bet that next year's 1st is going to be a similar spot. Paying top dollar for a player and also lose a top of the draft pick? No thank you.
Trade for Vet WR with 2nd round pick.
This is smart football moves if you ask me.
Pick 47 and conditional 2025 pick, I'm guessing they would want 2 2nds or a 2nd and 3rd at least.
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Give up 6 and 70 for Aiyuk. But he wanted to stay with DJ.
Not sure it makes sense to trade for Aiyuk if we trade our #1. Players get traded for much less these days. If we get him for our 3rd that would be great, other than that trading away more picks and paying the high salary is not a good long term plan
That would be absolute GM malpractice to give up 6 for Aiyuk. That could be one of the worst trades of all time.
+1
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How crazy would it be if we have Maye throwing to Aiyuk this season?
Even if they draft Maye I doubt you seeing him throw passes until 2025.
If DJ and/or Lock are playing poorly and the team gets off to a 2-5 start, and people are calling for Daboll's head, hard to see how Maye (or any other qb they draft) stays on the bench all season
Agreed. I would think the main piece to a deal would be the 2025 1st
Will be fun though to predict who will be the Randy White to Aiyuk's Craig Morton ;-)
Same poster.
However, I was also told of the Burns trade by another BBI behind the scenes days earlier.
Totally, Aiyuk is a legit #1 and dangerous with every route ran. Also, his injury history is nice. He seems to stay pretty healthy and the way he moves is good to avoid lower body injuries. He has a great attitude too. Maye or JJM rd 1, Aiyuk for pick 70 and 2025 2nd or pick 47 and 2025 3rd that could escalate to 2nd? Sign me up!
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who broke the Burns trade here. So Eric is right, Rickey, you are on the cusp of Asshat Hall of Fame stuff here!
Same poster.
However, I was also told of the Burns trade by another BBI behind the scenes days earlier.
On twitter Rickey broke some other news during FA before anyone else including the Calvin Ridley deal which seemed to come out of nowhere
Agreed, I was going to say that. He would be a perfect #1 to pair with them.
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who broke the Burns trade here. So Eric is right, Rickey, you are on the cusp of Asshat Hall of Fame stuff here!
Same poster.
However, I was also told of the Burns trade by another BBI behind the scenes days earlier.
Eric is a legend. When everyone called me a troll in that thread, he backed me up and said he heard the same thing. Re2pect.
acquiring Aiyuk is not going to be leaps and bounds more expensive then acquiring Burns. Especially with you have to pay Aiyuk top dollar.
If someone was offering a 2nd and a 1st rounder Aiyuk would have been traded months ago.
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He would get an extension and if we got him his 2024 contract would be low. Money would begin to hit in 2025 and big hits would begin 2026 with DJ completely off the books.
He's on his 5th option at ~14M. The Giants would obviously extend and restructure.
Pugh has no clue, we would not trade 6 for aiyuk lol
Look at the Tyreek Hill trade. The 2025 1st would be in the trade for Maye. No chance it would be for Aiyuk.
It would be, but it's an aggressive build.
QB at 6
Burns for 39
Aiyuk for a 2025 first
A 2025 1st is likely to be to be a top 5 pick
Trading this years second to get and pay Burns - ok?
Next year's 1st to pay Aiyuk? No, please no.
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I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.
A 2025 1st is likely to be to be a top 5 pick
Trading this years second to get and pay Burns - ok?
Next year's 1st to pay Aiyuk? No, please no.
I don't like it one bit either if that's the scope, holy overpay.
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to give up in any deal. We better win some games next year if we do it. I’d hate to deliver San Fran a top 10 pick - they have enough talent.
Look at the Tyreek Hill trade. The 2025 1st would be in the trade for Maye. No chance it would be for Aiyuk.
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Strongly disagree. I don't see a world where Aiyuk is traded for a package that doesn't include a 1st round pick. Hill, AJ Brown, Davante Adams, original Diggs trade, and even Marquise Brown all had a 1st in the deal
If by questionable - you mean insane, I agree.
Pretty sure that was one of the Rickey copycat accounts (was Rickey212 or Rickey214) he was referring to when someone asked him if it was him that reported the Giants and NE having a deal in place for 3
Ultra aggressive and win-now focused. Aiyuk's not consistently shown to be that caliber of player or personality.
Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?
this guy likes attention
Made lots of calls
But hope he’s right about Aiyuk
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I'd trade 47 and 2025 1st round for him.
A 2025 1st is likely to be to be a top 5 pick
Trading this years second to get and pay Burns - ok?
Next year's 1st to pay Aiyuk? No, please no.
What if it’s not though? What if they got Maye and Aiyuk and had a season like the Texans?
A rookie QB contract with a high salary ED and WR makes sense. (Even if we pay DJ a lot this year.)
I guess this is contingency plan just in case we don't get a QB in the 1st rd. I'm still curious why the Giants didn't do 30 visits with 2nd-tier WR. Maybe they want to pair a rookie QB with a veteran WR.
If that’s the case I can see the move to try and get aiyuk. Aiyuk is very good. Make the environment as friendly as possible for the young qb.
But with that being said I don’t know if I love the idea of trading for aiyuk. I just don’t think this team is a contender with or without aiyuk. I’d prefer to try and draft one and use my cap money elsewhere
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worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.
Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?
The idea would almost certainly be that they plan to use 6 to get a QB, not trade 6 for Aiyuk
Two- if the Giants traded their second round pick, we have to consider the possibility that this would mean that they plan to trade down from #6. They might have something lined up where they know they can move down and get several picks for #6 to offset the loss of the second rounder. I suspect that the Giants would be unwilling to make a deal and go into the draft with only 5 picks, and 4 of them in the 3rd round and after.
Three- I would note that pretty rickey is saying they are talking, not that a deal is imminent. However, if the Giants DO make the deal, taken together with the lack of top 30 visits by WR, the Giants might be signaling no WR picks. if that's the case, a move down from 6 looks wise. I suspect that if the Giants signal they are willing to move down, hypothetically Atlanta or the Jets might want to get ahead of Tenn. to get a shot at Alt.
That could allow the Giants to maximize the value of that pick and then move down again to the high teens. For example, if Penix is on the board, would the Raiders or Denver move up to 8 or 10 to get him?
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worth a first round pick? Is it potential or past performances? My opinion, at this time he is not worth a top 20 first round pick.
Aiyuk, MHJ, Nabers or Rome?
Now add in the salary.
Who would ever choose Aiyuk?
The idea would almost certainly be that they plan to use 6 to get a QB, not trade 6 for Aiyuk
Agreed
But its a safe bet that next year's 1st is going to be a similar spot. Paying top dollar for a player and also lose a top of the draft pick? No thank you.
Trade for Aiyuk, sign him for 5 years
Trade up to 3 for Maye Giants have control for 5 years.
Jones is gone after this year.
Thomas, Dex signed long term.
This is not as crazy an idea as some here think.
It will cost some draft picks which can flame out. Acquiring viable NFL talent is sometimes the safest way to go.