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Former coach Charlie Weiss:
“I visited with Bo Nix at the combine, went back and looked at all his film. He has the “it” factor that coaches look for.”
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I still think this is a guy who we are not paying enough attention too. It would not surprise me if he ends up being one of the better QBs coming out of this draft.
Eric, you seem to be leaning toward the Giants trying to get somebody ( Vikings ) to move up to 6, NYG would get the 2 first rounders and a pick next year.
NYG then could draft Nix, Brian Thomas Jr. and keep the rest of their picks, this year and next.
Am I warm with this assumption?
I see Nix to the Broncos as very real and if they pass, a team like LA can grab him to start developing behind Stafford.
Penix to the Raiders just feels right, though the OC has a west coast background, I can see Davis being enamored by the idea of a high flying deep passsing attack ran by Penix.
Eric, you seem to be leaning toward the Giants trying to get somebody ( Vikings ) to move up to 6, NYG would get the 2 first rounders and a pick next year.
NYG then could draft Nix, Brian Thomas Jr. and keep the rest of their picks, this year and next.
Am I warm with this assumption?
I wish the darn podcast was up! Yeah, I covered this in detail on there. If they can't trade up for the QB they want, the odds are they stay put and take the WR. However, if someone comes to me with a really good deal, I trade down.
In a nutshell, I firmly believe the Giants need a QB this year or next. In order to do that, they most likely have to maneuver up or down.
I also have a different take on the team needs than most. I think the Giants are one really good 3-technique defensive tackle away from having an elite front.
Eric, you seem to be leaning toward the Giants trying to get somebody ( Vikings ) to move up to 6, NYG would get the 2 first rounders and a pick next year.
NYG then could draft Nix, Brian Thomas Jr. and keep the rest of their picks, this year and next.
Am I warm with this assumption?
In this scenario, the Giants end up with both a 2nd tier QB and 2nd tier WR … who both could turn out to be as good as some of the so-called 1st tier. But why wouldn’t the Vikes just sit tight and do the same?
(assuming Denver takes Penix at 12, which is dangerous of course)
Eric, you seem to be leaning toward the Giants trying to get somebody ( Vikings ) to move up to 6, NYG would get the 2 first rounders and a pick next year.
NYG then could draft Nix, Brian Thomas Jr. and keep the rest of their picks, this year and next.
Am I warm with this assumption?
Nix and Thomas would be a good haul for day 1 of the draft.
I am ok with Nix. Bowers is a remote thrower. PJ had a great post yesterday on the Sy thread about how no TE picked in the first round since Mike Ditka has amounted to anything.
Bowers is a different player - and very good - but the positional value is not there for a team with gaping holes at critical positions.
I don't see elite but with enough of a team around him (and it doesn't have to be great) you can win a lot of games with him
with the right coaching/scheme imv.
Trade up then…
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... the Giants are higher on Nix than anyone realizes. I just don't think he will be available at 47, and not sure if our draft positions align with where they would want to take him.
Trade up then…
Of course, maybe... my point is we don't know how much they actually value him and where that trade would actually put them (and what spot is he worth). The unknowns are really making this draft interesting. I think the Giants have their board set and will let the draft come to them, make decisions/adjustments as the draft unfolds.
2023 William V. Campbell Trophy winner (it is awarded by the National Football Foundation to the American college football player with the best combination of academics, community service, and on-field performance; Associated Press Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Year; Sports Illustrated All-America second team
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I want a guy who is an athlete , yes, but at the pro level, I want a guy who can THINK. That's what made Tom Brady the GOAT.
https://goducks.com/sports/football/roster/bo-nix/11083
Just my take with Nix. I suspect that he will be drafted by Denver otherwise.
Trading with Minnesota, you can get pick 11 and 23.
Nix at 11. Get your WR with pick 23, maybe Thomas will be there, or McConkey or AD Mitchell.
We have to keep in mind that what all the draft guides, podcasters and talking heads start getting fixated that a player isn't worth this pick or this player was overdrafted.
How much in reality separates Maye from Nix or McCarthy from Maye?
How much separates Thomas from Nabers?
If you can get a QB and WR that you really like as opposed to getting just 1 of them, make it happen.
Nix, who has grown on me, played in college for a long, long time. So, he got comfortable with the speed, and things clearly slowed down. That's probably what's being mistaken for the "it" factor.
The good news is Nix is a more talented version of Jones. But like the Jones draft, where is the best spot to get the right value?
Denver Broncos
2/3
(-150)
Minnesota Vikings
9/2
(+450)
Las Vegas Raiders
6/1
New York Giants
7/1
New Orleans Saints
18/1
New England Patriots
20/1
Los Angeles Rams
22/1
Seattle Seahawks
22/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
40/1
Atlanta Falcons
50/1
Dallas Cowboys
50/1
New York Jets
50/1
Tennessee Titans
50/1
Washington Commanders
50/1
Detroit Lions
66/1
Miami Dolphins
66/1
Arizona Cardinals
80/1
Chicago Bears
80/1
Philadelphia Eagles
80/1
Pittsburgh Steelers
80/1
San Francisco 49ers
80/1
Baltimore Ravens
100/1
Buffalo Bills
100/1
Carolina Panthers
100/1
Cincinnati Bengals
100/1
Cleveland Browns
100/1
Green Bay Packers
100/1
Indianapolis Colts
100/1
Jacksonville Jaguars
100/1
Kansas City Chiefs
100/1
Los Angeles Chargers
100/1
Houston Texans
150/1
Las Vegas Raiders
13/4
(+325)
Minnesota Vikings
17/4
(+425)
Denver Broncos
5/1
Seattle Seahawks
7/1
New York Giants
8/1
New England Patriots
9/1
Los Angeles Rams
14/1
New Orleans Saints
16/1
Miami Dolphins
20/1
Atlanta Falcons
25/1
Dallas Cowboys
33/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
40/1
Tennessee Titans
40/1
Detroit Lions
50/1
Washington Commanders
50/1
Arizona Cardinals
66/1
New York Jets
66/1
Pittsburgh Steelers
66/1
Carolina Panthers
80/1
Chicago Bears
80/1
Los Angeles Chargers
80/1
Philadelphia Eagles
80/1
Baltimore Ravens
100/1
Buffalo Bills
100/1
Then read the scouting reports.
I think Bo Nix will be the best QB in this draft
I'll help you out with Sy's opinion.
Charlie Weiss has been pontificating about Nix for a while now, I don't agree with him. This isn't Nix's agent though.
Joe Montana was drafted in the third round for the very same reason.