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Is Nabers a better prospect coming out than Jamar Chase?

NJBlueTuna : 4/18/2024 12:22 pm
I know Chase was more of a physical player with top end athleticism, but Nabers seems to have very shifty moves which he can make at full throttle through his breaks. Nabers is maybe a tad faster.

Curious if any of the scouts or more professionally trained eyes have an opinion on this?

Thx
I think Chase was more highly regarded by a smidge  
Strahan91 : 4/18/2024 12:29 pm : link
but it's hard to say because Chase only really played 1 full season as a starter
I think Chase had the benefit of playing better comp which puts him up  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 12:33 pm : link
even though he had only played 2 years and then opt'ed out for the covid year.

his age 19 2019 season was an all timer and a big reason why they won the national championship. in the NC game he faced 2019 clemson corners derion kendrick and aj terrell, safetyies kavon wallace/isaiah simmons. 2019 UGA was an all NFL defense. he put up 221 yards vs clemson and 226 vs OU. 140 against a bama team with diggs and surtain at CB and mckinney at S. He checked every box.

Odunze and Nabers are on his level but i think harrison is the only one with an argument that he's maybe a better prospect.

I've got a better question  
Dave on the UWS : 4/18/2024 12:44 pm : link
Is he a better prospect than OBJ?
RE: I've got a better question  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16473812 Dave on the UWS said:
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Is he a better prospect than OBJ?


yes - however beckham had stand out traits that were better than nabers as a prospect, and those were the traits that ended up catapulting him as a pro. his ball skills (look at his hand/arm sizes), body control, and run after catch (elite shuttle/ 3 cone times) were elite even if he didnt have tyreek hill long speed or overwhelming physicality.

Nabers is more comparable to Chase, who despite being a better prospect than beckham probably still hasnt been as good of a pro (very close though).

Chase was more polished as a receiver  
JonC : 4/18/2024 12:55 pm : link
had more pop in his game, physically stronger, and Eric beat me to his slightly better RAS.
RE: Chase was more polished as a receiver  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16473830 JonC said:
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had more pop in his game, physically stronger, and Eric beat me to his slightly better RAS.


id consider them generally equivalent athletes based on their results, but chase gets a bump for having done shuttles/3 cone and performed well in them. those are very important drills for wr.

at the splitting hairs level it would be nice to see what nabers did in those drills, though it doesnt stop me from feeling confident he is a very similar athlete to chase.
is Odunze better than both of them?  
Victor in CT : 4/18/2024 1:01 pm : link
I think so.
Would agree they're plenty close enough, it's splitting hairs  
JonC : 4/18/2024 1:02 pm : link
The only thing Chase might have lacked was ideal height/size.
RE: is Odunze better than both of them?  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16473844 Victor in CT said:
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I think so.


i think odunze and nabers are functionally equivalent and both on the chase level (see thread below).

id have probably taken chase over both of them because of the reasons i stated above re nabers, but they are on that level so its possible something could have swayed me.



MHJ may be above that level because he has size none of them have. If you believe the GPS times he may also have the best long speed. Not a lot of public info on him though, his verified HS times are not great (but neither was Nabers, Odunze's were).
the insane athleticism of nabers/odunze - ( New Window )
RE: Would agree they're plenty close enough, it's splitting hairs  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16473850 JonC said:
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The only thing Chase might have lacked was ideal height/size.


Odunze and Harrison have size on Chase, Nabers is the same.

harrison was 6'3 209 with 31 7/8 arms 9 1/2 hands at combine.

honestly all 4 have arguments in the "best WR prospect since calvin johnson". if they miss on qb i will be thrilled with any of the 3, though id prefer both harrison or odunze to nabers slightly.
Nabers is 3rd for me as well  
JonC : 4/18/2024 1:14 pm : link
Good problem to have if no QB.
RE: Nabers is 3rd for me as well  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 1:21 pm : link
In comment 16473868 JonC said:
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Good problem to have if no QB.


totally agree. the only disappointing outcome for me would be if they dont end up with 1 of the 7 (4qbs/3 wrs).

id have no issue picking Alt or any OL if they think there's a day 1 impact guy, but it also basically confirms Neal as a bust which would be an adjacent disappointing outcome.
Getting any of these three guys would be foundational  
The Mike : 4/18/2024 1:25 pm : link
Every time I look at these RAS scores, I am blown away with the level of talent we are talking about here. I would be great with any one of the three. Added to Hyatt, Slayton and Robinson, we would finally have a legitimate WR corps that would be cost controlled for years.
Yup exactly what I'm thinking  
GuzzaBlue : 4/18/2024 2:18 pm : link
These 3 receivers are elite blue chip talents and most years a WR talent like any of these does not make it to 6. Something about Odunze just jumps off the page with me. He didn't like his cone time at the combine so he stayed and worked on his time with no one there. When a guy like that is paired with his skill-set, its a no brainer at maybe the biggest position of need. Can we please get guys like this in the building. This will substantially help any young QB we bring in the next 2 years
RE: Getting any of these three guys would be foundational  
JonC : 4/18/2024 2:20 pm : link
In comment 16473895 The Mike said:
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Every time I look at these RAS scores, I am blown away with the level of talent we are talking about here. I would be great with any one of the three. Added to Hyatt, Slayton and Robinson, we would finally have a legitimate WR corps that would be cost controlled for years.


And demonstrated football talent on gamedays, not just workout warriors with little film to back it up. Three elite players who have the package to excel in the NFL.
First of all it is a close  
Amtoft : 4/18/2024 2:41 pm : link
Even though it is close it would be MHj, Chase, Nabers, Odunze.... Each super close to each other.
RE: RE: Getting any of these three guys would be foundational  
The Mike : 4/18/2024 3:04 pm : link
In comment 16473989 JonC said:
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In comment 16473895 The Mike said:


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Every time I look at these RAS scores, I am blown away with the level of talent we are talking about here. I would be great with any one of the three. Added to Hyatt, Slayton and Robinson, we would finally have a legitimate WR corps that would be cost controlled for years.



And demonstrated football talent on gamedays, not just workout warriors with little film to back it up. Three elite players who have the package to excel in the NFL.


Exactly right. Very rare to see three players with the football talent and off the chart measurables at one position in a single draft.
10 yard split is likely the most important number  
gersh : 4/18/2024 3:22 pm : link
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interesting comment from albright today  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 9:19 pm : link
he said he hasnt talked to any team that has odunze ahead of nabers or mhj. says teams he's heard from have him closer to the next tier of brian thomas types than the first tier (nabers/mhj).

that runs counter to some other credible reporters (jeremiah, feldman) and just in terms of the eye test i dont see it that way personally. as jonc said, on the field forgetting any testing times these guys all look like studs to me.
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