If there is a trade up to #4,

Daniels to me has some flaws, but I would trust the process. JJ I think is a significant reach, but again would trust the process.

For Maye or JJM, I'd be more skeptical.

The one thing Daboll and co. have shown consistently in their Giants tenure, is getting the most out of QBs.

All of the big four prospects are more talented than Jones, so the ceiling will be higher.

There's nothing more valuable than a top 3rd QB, so if it takes a trade up, great.

In comment 16475020 JonC said:

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Daniels to me has some flaws, but I would trust the process. JJ I think is a significant reach, but again would trust the process.

This is exactly sentiment

In comment 16475027 Anakim said:

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In comment 16475020 JonC said: Quote: Daniels to me has some flaws, but I would trust the process. JJ I think is a significant reach, but again would trust the process. This is exactly sentiment

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In comment 16475020 JonC said:

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Daniels to me has some flaws, but I would trust the process. JJ I think is a significant reach, but again would trust the process.

This is where I am too

Not just any QB is worth trading up for. Of the three available (Williams isn’t really in play) the chances Schoen, or any other GM, likes them all is probably near zero. And the chances one of those he likes is the one available at 4 is probably pretty slim though not impossible. I don’t have a clue who he likes or who is a good choice but “passing” on a QB at 4 isn’t an indictment of Schoen or Mara or a statement on DJ. It’s just the way it goes.

Daniels scares me, but people seem to love him so I'd be open. McCarthy, I just feel like he's a little reach. The intangible stuff is nice, but I'm a little leery when that's the first thing you start talking about with a guy. Giving picks to get him would have me very nervous, but I'd support their going after any guy they had a conviction for. I'm not going to pound the table declaring I'm right and the experts are wrong. We have far too much of that around here.

If they move up.....I want a top 5 NFL QB.

If they stand pat....I will be fine with a top 10 QB on a rookie contract at 6
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If they trade down....I would be fine with a starting NFL QB on a rookie deal.

No.

I'm not gung-ho for dealing up for a QB or taking one just to take one. But I'm also not going to pretend I have any ability to project a QB's success in the NFL.

I'd be fine with it. This is from Sy's review of McCarthy:

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I thought (and still think) he was best suited to return to school and be the unquestioned #1 overall guy in 2025.

So, we'd be trading for someone who could have gone #1 next year.

In comment 16475031 BillT said:

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Not just any QB is worth trading up for. Of the three available (Williams isn’t really in play) the chances Schoen, or any other GM, likes them all is probably near zero. And the chances one of those he likes is the one available at 4 is probably pretty slim though not impossible. I don’t have a clue who he likes or who is a good choice but “passing” on a QB at 4 isn’t an indictment of Schoen or Mara or a statement on DJ. It’s just the way it goes.

I think most get it, and if it doesn't happen it is what is. Worthy consolation prize awaits at #6, just don't fook it up.

This team is not close and my fear is that we also don't have the talent foundation for a young QB to be successful. Now, perhaps that is mitigated with a Maye/JJM assuming they have them sit this year. But if we have them sit AND trade a 2025 #1 then we are really screwed next year as well in terms of draft capital (albeit with $ back for FA).

I want to trust JS as I love the Giants and he has impressed me thus far. So I'll be "ok" with whatever we do but if it were me I'd draft Nabers/MHJ, be very careful with DJ to not get him hurt and have injury guarantee kick in, more or less resign myself that 2024 will be a bad season and run it back on QB dilemma next offseason with a very high pick. Having Nabers/Wandale/Hyatt gives weapons that defenses need to consider and a better set of tools on offense for a young QB. But we still need a better OL as well before I want to put a young QB back there.

People have critiqued the idea of a WR1 as its icing without the cake. My counter is that you can't even sign true WR1s in FA so this isn't just 5 years of a rookie contract with Naber/MHJ but also a likely extension thereafter.

then you do it.

Daniels and Maye.

JJ is ok at 6 not worth additional cost.

Not a fan of McCarthy even at #6.

If they do draft McCarthy I will do an about face and hope I was wrong about him.

Do they trade this year's and next year's 1st round pick to move up to 4? That is the cost according to another thread. Schoen had better be right about the QB if he pays that price.

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then you do it.

+1. Plain and simple.

trade up for Daniels and would pass on him at 6. I am good moving up for McCarthy. Didn't see Maye enough to make a give a fair opinion on him.

I will support whatever the Giants do and hope for the best.

Interesting to see in the McGinn write ups, a scout believes Chicago might go Daniels at one. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

In comment 16475023 Ira said:

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For Maye or JJM, I'd be more skeptical.

When it comes to Jayden Daniels I agree with you 100%. I think that kid is going to be an outstanding NFL QB, and I'd rather have him wearing the Giants uniform rather than an opponent, especially within the division.
He's the type of player who'll bring people to MetLife, right now the Giants don't possess a QB who will do that.

But I love Jayden Daniels, so I guess a trade up for him would be just fine. Don’t feel that way at all for Drake Maye or JJ McCarthy.

Opinions are like assholes.. everyone's got one. Not only on this site but amongst the experts as well. This is about the QB's. The receivers on the other hand (the top three) are universally liked

For any QBs other than Daniels.

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In comment 16475074 Optimus-NY said: Quote: then you do it. +1. Plain and simple.

+2.

but NYG drafts them, so be it, powerless to combat it.

*I would give up whatever was needed to draft Williams or Daniels
*I would probably be okay with trading up for Maye but try to do less of an overpay
*I would not trade up for Penix but would seriously consider him later in Rd 1 or early Rd 2 if available
*I would not be interested at all in JJM or Nix until Day 3

In comment 16475105 Danny Kanell said:

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In comment 16475074 Optimus-NY said: Quote: then you do it. +1. Plain and simple.

I completely agree.
This is the year to make it happen. It's hard to imagine that Schoen & Daboll haven't identified at least one of Maye/Daniels/JJ as a guy that would *greatly* improve the future outlook of the team. If they have, they need to make the move to 1.03 or 1.04 and get their guy. A QB room of Jones, Lock & Cutlets doesn't bode well for their future.

without conviction, the guy is anything special. Hate the thought of bypassing Nabers just to pick anyone who plays QB. Not a believer in these QBs.

I would trust the Giants if they liked either one of them at 6. I just don't think either is special enough to give up anything this year or next.

However, if Daniels somehow doesn't go #2, I do think he is worthy of at least serious consideration for a deal.

That’s it.