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Stapleton on who knows the NYG Draft Plans

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/20/2024 8:49 am
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton

Who is privy to Joe Schoen's thinking regarding #NYGiants draft plans?

Here's my best guess at his inner circle, and I'm not even sure he will have shared exact details with this entire group (not in specific order):

John Mara
Brandon Brown
Tim McDonnell
Dennis Hickey
Brian Daboll
Ryan Cowden

Yeah, that's it for me. There are others very involved in the process. But as far as what Joe shares, I don't think it'd go beyond that group.
He needs to elimate a few from that list  
ZogZerg : 4/20/2024 8:52 am : link
He being, Schoen.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2024 8:53 am : link
He forgot PrettyRicky.
Tim McDonnell  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/20/2024 8:55 am : link
rubs me the wrong way, especially since the Patriots fiasco.
RE: …  
GFAN52 : 4/20/2024 8:56 am : link
In comment 16476402 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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He forgot PrettyRicky.


And GoDeep13
RE: Tim McDonnell  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2024 8:58 am : link
In comment 16476408 Eric from BBI said:
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rubs me the wrong way, especially since the Patriots fiasco.


Ah, the good ole ‘Nephew’ who will be running the Giants one day. Charlie Weis thinks highly of him, if I recall correctly.
Kafka  
Biteymax22 : 4/20/2024 9:07 am : link
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I don't care who knows  
David B. : 4/20/2024 9:08 am : link
As long as they keep their pie holes shut. The one refreshing thing about this tortuous runup to this years draft is that SO FAR, nobody knows wtf they're thinking. It's been 100% speculation.

And I like that.

After Leonard Floyd, DeVonta Smith, etc. I REALLY like that. They've been a leaky bucket for years.
This is true  
Sammo85 : 4/20/2024 9:14 am : link
And why folks need to be careful about asshats here.
RE: Kafka  
UberAlias : 4/20/2024 9:15 am : link
In comment 16476422 Biteymax22 said:
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They'll take input from coordinators and Kafka will be in the room on draft day. But this far out it's going to be a small, controlled circle.
I'd  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/20/2024 9:15 am : link
love to know how much influence Cowden has now. I've already speculated for some time that Hickey doesn't get enough attention.
RE: Kafka  
Mike from Ohio : 4/20/2024 9:17 am : link
In comment 16476422 Biteymax22 said:
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I think Kafka has had substantial input into the scouting and ranking of guys and fit for scheme, but probably not final grades and plans to move up or down.
RE: This is true  
Sean : 4/20/2024 9:18 am : link
In comment 16476434 Sammo85 said:
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And why folks need to be careful about asshats here.

This. I've heard teams give incorrect information to the larger groups and then speak the truth when the smaller group. It's only multiplied with QB imo.
this morning  
Y28 : 4/20/2024 9:20 am : link
we learned that PrettyRickey213 has a sense of humor

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RE: RE: This is true  
Sammo85 : 4/20/2024 9:21 am : link
In comment 16476445 Sean said:
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And why folks need to be careful about asshats here.


This. I've heard teams give incorrect information to the larger groups and then speak the truth when the smaller group. It's only multiplied with QB imo.


Yup. The Burns lead and leaking was out there because his agents had been talking to teams with Panthers for weeks since season ended.

The draft is much murkier and complex. Lot of moving parts and dependencies with players and other teams alike.
RE: RE: Kafka  
Biteymax22 : 4/20/2024 9:24 am : link
In comment 16476437 UberAlias said:
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They'll take input from coordinators and Kafka will be in the room on draft day. But this far out it's going to be a small, controlled circle.



He’s assistant head coach and Shane Bowen was on the list
RE: RE: RE: This is true  
Biteymax22 : 4/20/2024 9:27 am : link
In comment 16476451 Sammo85 said:
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And why folks need to be careful about asshats here.


This. I've heard teams give incorrect information to the larger groups and then speak the truth when the smaller group. It's only multiplied with QB imo.



Yup. The Burns lead and leaking was out there because his agents had been talking to teams with Panthers for weeks since season ended.

The draft is much murkier and complex. Lot of moving parts and dependencies with players and other teams alike.



I’m going to echo this sentiment. I think all the reliable info so far has came from agents/agencies. Nothing against our regular asshats who have been correct in the past, but I think Schoen has done a good job of keeping draft plans and who we like close to his vest. Even making himself harder to predict by giving top 30’s to so many QBs.

I’d be wary of any insight about who we’re drafting/who we like and if we’re trading up or down until you see it happen Thursday night.
I don’t get the “be careful” posts  
UConn4523 : 4/20/2024 9:29 am : link
are people betting their homes on who we take?
RE: RE: RE: Kafka  
UberAlias : 4/20/2024 9:31 am : link
In comment 16476458 Biteymax22 said:
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They'll take input from coordinators and Kafka will be in the room on draft day. But this far out it's going to be a small, controlled circle.




He’s assistant head coach and Shane Bowen was on the list
Bowen isn't on the list. At lest not what's posted in this thread.
RE: I don’t get the “be careful” posts  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2024 9:32 am : link
In comment 16476468 UConn4523 said:
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are people betting their homes on who we take?


Not only my house, but my first born, my marriage, & my signed 'GIANTS' helmet from members of the '93 team that signed it when I went to a couple of practices of training camp @ Fairleigh Dickinson that summer.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Kafka  
Biteymax22 : 4/20/2024 9:39 am : link
In comment 16476470 UberAlias said:
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They'll take input from coordinators and Kafka will be in the room on draft day. But this far out it's going to be a small, controlled circle.




He’s assistant head coach and Shane Bowen was on the list

Bowen isn't on the list. At lest not what's posted in this thread.


Apologies, don’t know why I thought I saw his name.

Still, if Kafak doesn’t have insight, the assistant head coach title was legitimately just symbolic after the Wink drama and him flirting with Seattle.
They need to disable the texting on Tim McDonnel's iphone  
ThomasG : 4/20/2024 9:41 am : link
otherwise that list will grow quickly.
RE: They need to disable the texting on Tim McDonnel's iphone  
Mike from Ohio : 4/20/2024 9:55 am : link
In comment 16476481 ThomasG said:
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otherwise that list will grow quickly.


“Ooops. Meant to text out top 10 to John Mara but sent it to Art Stapleton instead. Damn! Now I sent it to ESPN. Hold on…I’ll get this…”
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2024 9:58 am : link
Somewhat surprised-in a good way!-that Chris Mara wasn't on Art's list.
This whole list  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 10:00 am : link
could be a lie, a ruse to make you think these people know, it's all lies.

I also find the "be careful" and "we're not paying enough attention to..." posts kind of funny. Because if we're not careful about what we read of believe to be true about the NFL draft like we don't already know the risk about what could happen to us and our families. And if we don't pay enough attention to someone...well I'm not even going to get into that one but we all know those consequences will not be good.
its very hard if not impossible  
BigBlueCane : 4/20/2024 10:07 am : link
for old guys and dogs to learn new tricks.

Like running a successful misinformation campaign.
 
christian : 4/20/2024 10:10 am : link
Cousin Greg, er, Tim would definitely be voted most likely to mess this up, in the yearbook.
Some folks are getting way too bent out of shape  
Mike from Ohio : 4/20/2024 10:12 am : link
About this draft stuff. The information and speculation are fun, but nobody should need to be careful in putting too much weight on one nugget or another. But this is BBI, so there will be people melting down on draft night and feeling lied to like they just found their wife in bed with the neighbor.
The only person  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 10:15 am : link
who should know is Tisch, because he's probably the one responsible for throwing the draft day party and after party and he needs a theme.
RE: The only person  
Mike from Ohio : 4/20/2024 10:22 am : link
In comment 16476516 pjcas18 said:
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who should know is Tisch, because he's probably the one responsible for throwing the draft day party and after party and he needs a theme.


There are really only two themes to have at the ready:

1) If QB - “Goodbye, Daniel Jones”
2) If non-QB - “Daniel’s future’s so bright I have to wear shades”
RE: Tim McDonnell  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2024 10:26 am : link
In comment 16476408 Eric from BBI said:
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rubs me the wrong way, especially since the Patriots fiasco.


Very much so.
RE: this morning  
DeVito32 : 4/20/2024 10:29 am : link
In comment 16476450 Y28 said:
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we learned that PrettyRickey213 has a sense of humor

@Art Stapleton
reply

Rickey
@prettyrickey213
·
59m
I believe
@WesSteinberg
is part of the brain trust


Orrrrrr maybe prettyricky IS Wes Steinberg! LOL
RE: …  
Section331 : 4/20/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16476509 christian said:
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Cousin Greg, er, Tim would definitely be voted most likely to mess this up, in the yearbook.


OK, Tim McDonnell as Cousin Greg made me LOL.
All I’m saying is  
Sammo85 : 4/20/2024 10:34 am : link
Wash your hands, wear a mask, and keep at least six feet distance with these rumors. Stay safe and healthy.
RE: Some folks are getting way too bent out of shape  
AcidTest : 4/20/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16476513 Mike from Ohio said:
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About this draft stuff. The information and speculation are fun, but nobody should need to be careful in putting too much weight on one nugget or another. But this is BBI, so there will be people melting down on draft night and feeling lied to like they just found their wife in bed with the neighbor.


+1.
I would think  
Dave on the UWS : 4/20/2024 10:57 am : link
Steve Tisch knows, since he owns like 50% of the team.
I always picture Tim McDonnell  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 4/20/2024 11:34 am : link
As Fredo.

Schoen (Mike Corleone) and Daboll (Moe Green) need to keep him in the room but probably try to distract him with menial tasks.
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