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Nick Falato...Make the case: Drake Maye or J.J. McCarthy?

KingBlue : 4/20/2024 9:18 am
For Nick...it's Drake Maye

Maye has a higher upside than McCarthy, with theoretically fixable tendencies on tape. Daboll could be the perfect coach to help him improve his footwork and break the bad habits that may have developed due to his time in the air raid system.

There aren’t many quarterbacks that enter the NFL draft with - at least - the upside to eventually develop into a top-five NFL quarterback. I have no idea if Maye will develop into that type of player, but I know he has the requisite top-level arm talent and confidence that quarterbacks of that ilk possess. For that, I have to go with Drake Maye.

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there  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/20/2024 9:19 am : link
is two ways to read GoDeep13's thread.
There's two ways to read everything  
UberAlias : 4/20/2024 9:29 am : link
at this point.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/20/2024 9:33 am : link
I can see the upside he's talking about with Drake & I would like to see Dabs work with a talented QB & see how he could mold him. Hell, I thought he did an admirable job with DeVito.
RE: there  
Biteymax22 : 4/20/2024 9:37 am : link
In comment 16476447 Eric from BBI said:
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is two ways to read GoDeep13's thread.


Very straight forward, he prefaced it by saying the Giants were throwing smoke around the QBs. I fully believe that and its why I’m taking any “I heard they like X” comments with a grain of salt, even if from reliable sources.

I believe the fact that we’re hearing so many conflicting reports is a good thing. We no longer have a Marc Ross type telling everyone what is going on in our war room.
pretty sure the Giants have a wide margin  
dd in Mass : 4/20/2024 9:44 am : link
between Maye and JJM. The coach thinks Maye has big time upside.
Their  
Toth029 : 4/20/2024 9:52 am : link
Breakdown of Maye was pretty damn good. Not simply showing his good plays, but showed the misses and ways the Giants can look into fixing him. Also showed several passes where his receiver drops it or catches it and immediately fumbling it. Essentially playing with not so great talent around him outside of Hampton.

I feel he likes Maye 2nd after Caleb. He's shown hesitation with Daniels and didn't like Penix much at all.
RE: there  
Mike from Ohio : 4/20/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16476447 Eric from BBI said:
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is two ways to read GoDeep13's thread.


RE: there  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2024 10:49 am : link
In comment 16476447 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
is two ways to read GoDeep13's thread.


I hear you, I hear you.
I totally agree with the assessment that  
Section331 : 4/20/2024 11:23 am : link
JJM has the higher floor, and Maye the higher ceiling, so which one you take depends on some projection and a willingness to accept risk. Risk that JJM will be nothing more than a high-end game manager, or risk that Maye’s issues can’t be fixed.

If we’re in a position to make that choice (I highly doubt we will be), I’d swing for the fence’s on Maye’s upside.
I think they prefer Maye  
j_rud : 4/20/2024 11:47 am : link
I like McCarthy a lot, love his attitude and think he'll be able to answer a lot of the questions folks have re: can't do vs wasn't asked to do.

But if I had to guess, I'll bet Daboll would prefer Maye's skill set and upside. A. , bhaide. I don't think he's interested in tailoring his offense around the limitations of his QB. Maye is inconsistent and there's a lot to clean up, and the bit in GD13s post about Maye vs Allen in terms of still having those issues with superior coaching is an interesting one. But ultimately I think Daboll prefers the one who has flashed the ability to do it all.
Always risky  
56goat : 4/20/2024 4:03 pm : link
to draft a QB with a high pick knowing you have to fix him.
Maye absolutely  
section125 : 4/20/2024 4:51 pm : link
scares the shit out of me.
Maye has what you can’t coach  
Rjanyg : 4/20/2024 7:46 pm : link
He has shown the ability to make unreal throws.

McCarthy seems to have impressed at the combine and in meetings, as well as his pro day.

I have to believe most teams have Maye ahead of McCarthy on their board.

RE: I totally agree with the assessment that  
BleedBlue46 : 4/20/2024 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16476591 Section331 said:
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JJM has the higher floor, and Maye the higher ceiling, so which one you take depends on some projection and a willingness to accept risk. Risk that JJM will be nothing more than a high-end game manager, or risk that Maye’s issues can’t be fixed.

If we’re in a position to make that choice (I highly doubt we will be), I’d swing for the fence’s on Maye’s upside.


I'd take either one for the proposed trade to 4. Neither for the king's ransom.
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