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Entertainah has a good summary of the NYG position

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 7:30 am
at the #6 spot. Listen starting around the 5 minute mark.
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Excellent take  
Rjanyg : 4/22/2024 8:16 am : link
There is opportunity to move back, you have to consider it. I would hate losing out on a blue chip player though if you get too I can imagine moving back with MN getting 11 & 23, then move up to 9 to draft Odunze ( or Nabers ) and giving Chicago our 3rd round pick. They only have 4 picks the entire draft, 2 first rounders.

Thursday will be very interesting!
Great discussion  
Mayo2JZ : 4/22/2024 8:40 am : link
He really presents a strong case for his picks. I would be thrilled with a draft like that.
we don't need quantity  
crooza172 : 4/22/2024 8:41 am : link
We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.
RE: we don't need quantity  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 8:45 am : link
In comment 16478850 crooza172 said:
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We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.


That's not the only consideration. If you don't get the QB this year, you have to get him next year. And if Denver offers their 2025 #1, that has a good chance to be a top 10 pick (as does our pick).
RE: RE: we don't need quantity  
crooza172 : 4/22/2024 8:50 am : link
In comment 16478858 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16478850 crooza172 said:


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We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.



That's not the only consideration. If you don't get the QB this year, you have to get him next year. And if Denver offers their 2025 #1, that has a good chance to be a top 10 pick (as does our pick).


Right but is next year another Kenny Pickett/Malik Willis class? Or maybe the Daniel Jones/Dwayne Haskins class. That top pick could be worthless if we are doing it for a QB. Also, what's to say we end up with 4 and the top 3 teams need a QB again? We are picking in the top 6 in a strong QB class. Go get the QB.
crooza172  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 8:52 am : link
You're acting emotionally, not logically.

The top three QBs in this draft are already out of reach.
RE: we don't need quantity  
blueblood : 4/22/2024 8:54 am : link
In comment 16478850 crooza172 said:
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We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.


Giants fans needs to stop doing this.. " The last time " was Gettleman and his crew. They are long gone. What happened then doesnt apply to now.

And if the draft has shown us ANYTHING is that it is unpredictable. Guaranteed " blue chippers" can be busts.. and so called " busts " can be top notch players..

we're  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 8:57 am : link
acting like there are no QB prospects in 2025 too... Shedeur Sanders, Quinn Ewers, Drew Allar... not to mention there are always guys who come out of nowhere.
RE: RE: we don't need quantity  
crooza172 : 4/22/2024 8:58 am : link
In comment 16478880 blueblood said:
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In comment 16478850 crooza172 said:


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We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.



Giants fans needs to stop doing this.. " The last time " was Gettleman and his crew. They are long gone. What happened then doesnt apply to now.

And if the draft has shown us ANYTHING is that it is unpredictable. Guaranteed " blue chippers" can be busts.. and so called " busts " can be top notch players..


Due respect, Joe's track record so far hasn't been the best either.....not epically bad but not great either.
I really, really am  
section125 : 4/22/2024 9:02 am : link
moving toward getting the extra pick with a move to between 9-13. If with Minnesota could take Thomas or Penix at 11 and one of the top DTs/CBs at 23 ...
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section125 : 4/22/2024 9:03 am : link
In comment 16478886 crooza172 said:
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In comment 16478850 crooza172 said:


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We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.



Giants fans needs to stop doing this.. " The last time " was Gettleman and his crew. They are long gone. What happened then doesnt apply to now.

And if the draft has shown us ANYTHING is that it is unpredictable. Guaranteed " blue chippers" can be busts.. and so called " busts " can be top notch players..




Due respect, Joe's track record so far hasn't been the best either.....not epically bad but not great either.


We will disagree. I think it has been good, not great.
RE: I really, really am  
BigBlueinDE : 4/22/2024 9:05 am : link
In comment 16478891 section125 said:
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moving toward getting the extra pick with a move to between 9-13. If with Minnesota could take Thomas or Penix at 11 and one of the top DTs/CBs at 23 ...


Same here.
Maye is their guy. It's been hidden lately, but if you look closely,  
Optimus-NY : 4/22/2024 9:08 am : link
it's always been there. Get him if you can. I'd be willing to give up next year's #1 to do it. If he's gone at 3, then obviously things change. I like McCarthy and would be happy to have him as well, but not paying through the nose to get him. The key is New England at 3: What do they do? The Giants can effect that to a certain extent, but ultimately it's out of their control. If the Giants were picking 5th instead of 6th, then things would be different, but it is what it is.
My son mentioned the other day  
crooza172 : 4/22/2024 9:09 am : link
this could potentially yield us Odunze and Penix. I would definitely not hate that....just not sure how they would handle Neal being his blind side tackle.
RE: we're  
bw in dc : 4/22/2024 9:13 am : link
In comment 16478883 Eric from BBI said:
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acting like there are no QB prospects in 2025 too... Shedeur Sanders, Quinn Ewers, Drew Allar... not to mention there are always guys who come out of nowhere.


Corrected for accuracy.

(Which Allar doesn't have, btw)
RE: we don't need quantity  
BigBlueinDE : 4/22/2024 9:17 am : link
In comment 16478850 crooza172 said:
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We need quality. The last time we traded down, Micah Parsons was sitting there and we took Toney. If you can't get the QB, get the blue chip player!!!!!! We currently have zero of those on offense.


Yes, and the GM responsible for that decision is no longer here. Secondly, there are some tidbits coming from Dallas indicating that the issues regarding Parsons discussed at the time appear to be resurfacing. Is it true? Who knows, but it is a factor.
RE: RE: we're  
GoDeep13 : 4/22/2024 9:19 am : link
In comment 16478913 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16478883 Eric from BBI said:


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acting like there are no QB prospects in 2025 too... Shedeur Sanders, Quinn Ewers, Drew Allar... not to mention there are always guys who come out of nowhere.



Corrected for accuracy.

(Which Allar doesn't have, btw)
Carson Beck can be interesting. But the thought of Drew Allar makes me throw up in my mouth a lil.
RE: RE: RE: we're  
bw in dc : 4/22/2024 9:31 am : link
In comment 16478926 GoDeep13 said:
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acting like there are no QB prospects in 2025 too... Shedeur Sanders, Quinn Ewers, Drew Allar... not to mention there are always guys who come out of nowhere.



Corrected for accuracy.

(Which Allar doesn't have, btw)

Carson Beck can be interesting. But the thought of Drew Allar makes me throw up in my mouth a lil.


Try being a Penn State fan... ;)

Beck is interesting. He had a lot of protection with that Georgia OL. They were a top ten pass blocking unit.

But I think Beck can spin it pretty well and he has ideal size.

The guy to watch, IMO, is Jalen Milroe. He's a potential monster if he can iron out some passing issues. A physical specimen who can run like a tailback and really spin it. Just a lot of fat to trim...


Clearly it comes down to how teams  
Rudy5757 : 4/22/2024 10:56 am : link
Feel about Maye/McCarthy. I’m not a McCarthy fan so at 6 I would trade down if 2 of the 3WRs are there. I think one Wr would then make it to 11 or 12 so you could trade down
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