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Schefter on McAfee: NYG & MIN most active trying to move up

Sean : 4/22/2024 12:28 pm
I'll try to find the clip.
I dunno if it’s Maye or McCarthy  
Chris684 : 4/22/2024 12:31 pm : link
But it’s pretty clear now NYG and Minny want the same guy.
All signs point to their trying to get their QB  
UberAlias : 4/22/2024 12:32 pm : link
And yet if it doesn't work out the way they hope, there are many who will ignore the evidence and declare it about their commitment to Jones.
And I think they both know it  
Chris684 : 4/22/2024 12:32 pm : link
so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:32 pm : link
he's saying the same as Pelissero.
I will  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:33 pm : link
say this...I've seen Schefter talk a lot this past week and it's obvious (up until at least now) he doesn't have a clue what is going to happen.
Here  
leatherneck570 : 4/22/2024 12:34 pm : link
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RE: I dunno if it’s Maye or McCarthy  
BillT : 4/22/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16479412 Chris684 said:
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But it’s pretty clear now NYG and Minny want the same guy.

And I wouldn’t doubt it’s the same guy NE wants.
RE: I will  
Four Aces : 4/22/2024 12:38 pm : link
In comment 16479418 Eric from BBI said:
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say this...I've seen Schefter talk a lot this past week and it's obvious (up until at least now) he doesn't have a clue what is going to happen.


No clue
Based on that clip  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:39 pm : link
I still think Schefter doesn't know.
The Giants have a clear advantage moving up  
Breeze_94 : 4/22/2024 12:39 pm : link
Because AZ pick is ahead of LAC, and AZ does not want to miss out on their WR1.

The Giants can absolutely get a QB in the top 4. Now it’s a matter of whether they think the price is right for the final of the big 4 QB on the board. This trade likely would not happen until NE turns in their card at #3.

Right now, my brain and logic says that NE takes Maye. But my gut tells me they go McCarthy because he seems to embody the “Patriots Way” mantra, has the Michigan ties, played college ball in the inclement weather more than Maye, and is a guy who fits what a defensive minded HC and Org would look for.
I'll keep saying this until I am blue in the face  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:40 pm : link
We don't have any influence at all on where the first three quarterbacks go as long as all three teams really want quarterbacks.

Giants fans need to understand that before getting too bent out of shape.

If the Pats want Maye or McCarthy, we're can't change that.
 
ryanmkeane : 4/22/2024 12:41 pm : link
Schefter is good at pretending to know things.
I was just told not to be shocked if  
Big Rick in FL : 4/22/2024 12:44 pm : link
JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.
RE: I was just told not to be shocked if  
ryanmkeane : 4/22/2024 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16479448 Big Rick in FL said:
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JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.

That would be very ideal.
RE: I'll keep saying this until I am blue in the face  
JohnG in Albany : 4/22/2024 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16479440 Eric from BBI said:
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We don't have any influence at all on where the first three quarterbacks go as long as all three teams really want quarterbacks.

Giants fans need to understand that before getting too bent out of shape.

If the Pats want Maye or McCarthy, we're can't change that.


I'm sure everyone will remain very calm if things break that way.
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Big Rick in FL : 4/22/2024 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16479441 ryanmkeane said:
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Schefter is good at pretending to know things.


Schefter is really good at knowing things. The dudes been one of the top if not the top NFL insider for what 15-20 years now?
I think he knows MN and NYG  
UberAlias : 4/22/2024 12:46 pm : link
Are trying to trade up. I think he knows Commanders are leaning towards Daniels.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:49 pm : link
In comment 16479454 Big Rick in FL said:
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Schefter is good at pretending to know things.



Schefter is really good at knowing things. The dudes been one of the top if not the top NFL insider for what 15-20 years now?


That's true, but he seems to be guessing right now. His 30 minute interview with Leonard was painfully uninformative. The way he spoke in that clip, it can be interpreted as his opinion with respect to the Giants.

(Sidenote: if the Giants don't want McCarthy, they are doing a good job).
RE: I was just told not to be shocked if  
UberAlias : 4/22/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16479448 Big Rick in FL said:
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JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.


Other than Maye falling to us outright, this would be my #1 favorite outcome.
JohnG  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:50 pm : link
it's hopeless, isn't it?
RE: I was just told not to be shocked if  
Sean : 4/22/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16479448 Big Rick in FL said:
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JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.

Interesting. The JJM betting odds have changed too with him going to WSH.
RE: I was just told not to be shocked if  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:51 pm : link
In comment 16479448 Big Rick in FL said:
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JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.


McCarthy #2?!

Whoa.
RE: RE: I was just told not to be shocked if  
Big Rick in FL : 4/22/2024 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16479465 Sean said:
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In comment 16479448 Big Rick in FL said:


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JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.


Interesting. The JJM betting odds have changed too with him going to WSH.


Have they? How much have they changed?
JJM to the ‘manders  
leatherneck570 : 4/22/2024 12:52 pm : link
Would be awesome. I hope the Rickey knob Slobbing ends with that pick.
The Giants have done a good job in keeping everyone puzzled  
Reese's Pieces : 4/22/2024 12:52 pm : link
as to what they will do with the sixth pick. I think that the one piece of solid evidence that points toward whom they will draft is all the meetings they had with the quarterbacks. But whether they are ready to move up by trading next year’s number one is very uncertain.

McCarthy over the last two months, has sharply moved up into seemingly inclusion in the first tier of quarterbacks. But I think many GM’s still have their doubts about him, and he and/or one of the others will be available to the Giants at six, if they want to use it on McCarthy.
RE: RE: RE: I was just told not to be shocked if  
leatherneck570 : 4/22/2024 12:53 pm : link
In comment 16479469 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 16479448 Big Rick in FL said:


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JJM goes #2 to the Skins
Jayden #3 to the Pats
Maye #4 to the NYG

My friend said he's heard the JJM rumor for a couple of days now, but it's really picked up today among people He speaks to. He said the above order is what his team is expecting to happen as of this moment.


Interesting. The JJM betting odds have changed too with him going to WSH.



Have they? How much have they changed?


Yesterday: +2000
Today: +1100
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Schefter quote  
shyster : 4/22/2024 12:54 pm : link
"The Vikings, who have expressed the most interest in coming up to number 3, and the Giants, who have expressed some, as well."

Draws a distinction, and it's going to take a lot of motivation to get to 3.
Schefter  
AcidTest : 4/22/2024 12:55 pm : link
didn't say anything that hasn't been widely speculated by many for weeks, namely that the Commanders take Daniels at #2 and the Patriots will take a QB at #3.

I don't see the Commanders taking JJM at #2, but at this point, who really knows?

I do agree that if Maye gets to #4, he will likely be a Giant unless Arizona asks for our #1 next year.
RE: JJM to the ‘manders  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/22/2024 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16479470 leatherneck570 said:
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Would be awesome. I hope the Rickey knob Slobbing ends with that pick.


Rickey is against the ropes... taking huge punches.
RE: RE: JJM to the ‘manders  
BleedBlue46 : 4/22/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16479479 Eric from BBI said:
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Would be awesome. I hope the Rickey knob Slobbing ends with that pick.



Rickey is against the ropes... taking huge punches.


Or the media is making a story out of a nothing burger just because JD's agent liked tweets that were critical of the Commanders' actions.
I have been saying this for a while  
jvm52106 : 4/22/2024 1:02 pm : link
I think NE wants Daniels BUT, if he moves off two and the Raiders come call with a boat load of picks (Raiders want Daniels too), the Pats could set themselves up VERY nicely going foward..

Either way it is getting interesting. I have heard two other folks mention JJM to Washington...
Daniels could drop to us in all reality!  
Simms11 : 4/22/2024 1:02 pm : link
Think about that for a moment.
RE: Schefter  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/22/2024 1:03 pm : link
In comment 16479477 AcidTest said:
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didn't say anything that hasn't been widely speculated by many for weeks, namely that the Commanders take Daniels at #2 and the Patriots will take a QB at #3.

I don't see the Commanders taking JJM at #2, but at this point, who really knows?

I do agree that if Maye gets to #4, he will likely be a Giant unless Arizona asks for our #1 next year.


I agree, but what would that trade look like without the 2025 first rounder?

Getting picks and still getting a top 3 receiver has to be attractive for the Cards.
RE: RE: Schefter  
jvm52106 : 4/22/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16479493 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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didn't say anything that hasn't been widely speculated by many for weeks, namely that the Commanders take Daniels at #2 and the Patriots will take a QB at #3.

I don't see the Commanders taking JJM at #2, but at this point, who really knows?

I do agree that if Maye gets to #4, he will likely be a Giant unless Arizona asks for our #1 next year.



I agree, but what would that trade look like without the 2025 first rounder?

Getting picks and still getting a top 3 receiver has to be attractive for the Cards.


Cards won't trade with anyone past 6- they would lose out on bhoth MHJ and Nabers. They have a ton of picks, they don't need picks they need imapct players. Trading with us is like gravy for them. Trading with Minnesota would be like getting a side chicken at Thanksgiving..
I saw in vegas  
Carl in CT : 4/22/2024 1:08 pm : link
Jm over/under was pick 5.5
Hmm, Falcons tampering with Cousins penalty  
jvm52106 : 4/22/2024 1:09 pm : link
could be announced this week. Could involve draft picks.
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RE: RE: JJM to the ‘manders  
bigblue5611 : 4/22/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16479479 Eric from BBI said:
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Would be awesome. I hope the Rickey knob Slobbing ends with that pick.



Rickey is against the ropes... taking huge punches.


Speaking of...


Rickey
@prettyrickey213
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1h
Not much has changed but teams know that Jayden will be the pick at 2.
I still expect the Pats to stay put and pick at 3 (sounds like they prefer Maye over JJMC).
Vikings and Cardinals have had productive discussions for the fourth pick. Broncos are also a team to watch here
RE: I will  
djm : 4/22/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16479418 Eric from BBI said:
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say this...I've seen Schefter talk a lot this past week and it's obvious (up until at least now) he doesn't have a clue what is going to happen.


How do any of these talkies or reporters know anything? They don't. lol. It's fun to speculate but no one knows shit and even if they did know shit it's impossible to tell fact from fiction when there is so much noise. The truth will be lost until Friday.
that said  
djm : 4/22/2024 1:14 pm : link
I do think these reports of teams trying to move up are true. No player names involved, you can probably believe takes like this especially when so many are corroborating the same take. NO players named? Believe it. Players named? Horse shit.

If teams like NE or Zona are saying teams are asking them to move up, it's probably true. Why would they lie and why would any team like NYG actively try and cover that up? They have nothing to lose by disclosing a desire to move up. What they won't disclose is players they want to draft.
I see a lot of chalk on Thursday  
Carl in CT : 4/22/2024 1:18 pm : link
First 3 will be QBs they all need and will draft one. Arizona will not trade past the giants. They want MHJR..could settle for namers. Chargers have 10 min. Will be taking calls from us, Denver, raiders and Minn. I find it hard to get a deal done. They might have to pick. I would stay put as there will be a lot of lying by them to get a quick deal. Ours is easy flop one pick and they still get their guy that is if ours is available.
Schefter is a corporate guy  
MojoEd : 4/22/2024 1:20 pm : link
The sense I have gotten from him is that his main directive for the draft is to boost public interest and promote the entertainment value of the draft. I feel all of his “scoops” are inside feeds that are timed for release to best satisfy that directive. I expect he will tease rumors all the way up until the draft but not “break” anything before the show.
If people are finding out  
Ron Johnson : 4/22/2024 1:21 pm : link
that the Giants are looking to trade up, it means the Giants want someone to jump them so they can take Nabers.
If a team jumps us for a qb  
Carl in CT : 4/22/2024 1:24 pm : link
It locks in Nabers or MHJR
Also Denv  
Carl in CT : 4/22/2024 1:26 pm : link
Doesn’t have a 2nd round pick so 2025 #1 and a player would have to be involved.
I'd put good money  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 4/22/2024 1:28 pm : link
That the Commanders are already negotiating contract with Daniels and that any JJM talk is media driven to get people to tune in on Thurs.
Schefter  
auxelectric : 4/22/2024 1:30 pm : link
Keeps on hinting at the idea that NE could jump around in the first round implying that they could do what Arizona did last year after trading out of 3 and they'd do it for a QB.

Don't know why he'd keep banging that drum if there wasn't a thought that could happen.
RE: I'd put good money  
Mbavaro : 4/22/2024 1:32 pm : link
In comment 16479554 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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That the Commanders are already negotiating contract with Daniels and that any JJM talk is media driven to get people to tune in on Thurs.


Why would they be negotiating if their salaries are already slotted?
RE: RE: I'd put good money  
jvm52106 : 4/22/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16479569 Mbavaro said:
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That the Commanders are already negotiating contract with Daniels and that any JJM talk is media driven to get people to tune in on Thurs.



Why would they be negotiating if their salaries are already slotted?


Yeah, the only thing you could be pushing is to get him signed early- but the money is fairly locked in.
RE: If a team jumps us for a qb  
ryanmkeane : 4/22/2024 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16479543 Carl in CT said:
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It locks in Nabers or MHJR

Odunze
RE: JohnG  
JohnG in Albany : 4/22/2024 2:45 pm : link
In comment 16479463 Eric from BBI said:
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it's hopeless, isn't it?


Don't think of it as hopeless, think of it as comfortably dependable.
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