Let’s say the draft goes 1. Williams, 2. Daniels, 3. Maye. The Cardinals are interested in trading back. Would you be comfortable trading Picks 6, 47, and next year’s 2nd for McCarthy? I think this is a real possibility as the Cardinals would still get Harrison or Nabers at 6 and get 2 second rounders. Now are you as the GM of the Giants, comfortable making f this deal?
I wouldn’t either. If it was Maye, 100% yes. I’d risk my job on his ceiling. McCarthy is a nice kid, but his ceiling is not anywhere near as high as I’d like.
But stating the obvious, if they have significant doubt, you don't.
2nd round picks are valuable to NFL GMs. No way the Cardinals make that trade.
But stating the obvious, if they have significant doubt, you don't.
This.
The exercise is silly because people have such a bias with QB. That price is pretty cheap if NYG has a conviction on McCarthy.
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Then flip 47 and a conditional 2025 4th/3rd for Aiyuk.
2nd round picks are valuable to NFL GMs. No way the Cardinals make that trade.
I wouldn't say no way. The most accurate nfl draft prognosticators said pick 107 and 2025 2nd for pick swap with AZ, GoDeep said pick 70 and 2025 2nd. This is assuming Minnesota isn't all in on JJM to get pick 4 for a reasonable cost. If it's Maye at 4, then I would imagine the cost would go up a lot as I think Minnesota is all in on Maye and would trade pick 11, 23 and 2025 1st or more for him.
If they select Rome or Nabers?
Unless it’s Caleb or Daniels, I’m not comfortable trading next year’s first.
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saying no had better not be proposing giving away next year's #1 to move to take Penix. But that makes even less sense.
Does it.
If they select Rome or Nabers?
If I have McCarthy clearly ranked over Penix, then you take the QB who you have more faith in.
Aside from that, does Penix even get in range again (i.e., past the Raiders and Broncos in the first round)?
But, if the Giants really like Penix and have an opportunity to get him after making a different pick at 6, well, it all depends upon how they really feel about the QB.
Which QB are the Giants saving that 2025 first round pick for? Or are we ok, looking to 2026 draft to grab a QB? Or do you like Dak in free agency?
If NYG doesn't select a QB in the lottery, the reaction of Team Jones is going to be like Brian Drew's family when Sonny passed on Bo Callahan with the #1 pick.
But stating the obvious, if they have significant doubt, you don't.
Would get creative to land one of the other tier 2 guys though just to finally move on from DJ and take a swing.
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at this point I don't have a choice. It would not be my ideal, but if JJM turns into a top 15 QB it will be worth it.
If NYG doesn't select a QB in the lottery, the reaction of Team Jones is going to be like Brian Drew's family when Sonny passed on Bo Callahan with the #1 pick.
Who is Team Jones? Even Jones himself has to know his NFL career as a starter is over. Schoen not getting a QB has nothing to do with having continued, misplaced faith in Jones. It will just signal he hasn't yet identified any way to fix it. A problem that he made demonstrably worse since he got here.
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at this point I don't have a choice. It would not be my ideal, but if JJM turns into a top 15 QB it will be worth it.
If NYG doesn't select a QB in the lottery, the reaction of Team Jones is going to be like Brian Drew's family when Sonny passed on Bo Callahan with the #1 pick.
I like JJM... Is he worth two extra 2nds? I agree if we don't get a top 6 QB it is going to be a mad house here. Will you hear the Team Jones people over just Go Terps alone?
either a qb, nabers, and/or mhj will be there at 6. two generational talents at wr or a qb worthy of a top 6 pick. just stay put.
Nope. But I'm not Joe Schoen or Brian Daboll. If they love this guy, they would agree with me.
If this is remotely possible, trading 6,47 and a 2025 2nd round pick seems like a fair deal.
They don't want to pay the price for the 4th QB... they want one of the top 3 guys. If you asked 6 plus 2 2nd rounders for Maye you would probably have a lot more people wanting it. Daniels you would have people willing to give up a 1st and Caleb some would give up multiple 1sts.
If you think McCarthy can become one of the six best QBs in your conference, two extra 2nd rounders is nothing.
2. If that trade is the only way the Giants walk from this draft with a QB I'd rather do that than draft a WR at 6. It's a dumb "full bloom love" method of operating but with this ownership it's become clear we have to hope for good outcomes resulting from shitty inputs.
The other side of the coin is the intangibles, which we all know are through the roof. Kid told recruits to go somewhere else if they wanted to party and chase girls, bc his class was gonna restore Michigan football. Then he went 3-0 vs OSU and won a national title. So bet against the kid at your own risk.
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But stating the obvious, if they have significant doubt, you don't.
That's what it is. I know how much we love the draft, but in the grand scheme os things, if the Giants think he's the guy, and they hit, are we going to be sad about 2 second rounders?