Dianna Russini: NYG ownership reluctant to move up for QB.

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Figuring out how to win with Jones is like trying to figure out how to pass the bar exam without going to law school…

they are.

we wait and see what happens. We're only a couple of days away at this point.

Next we are bringing Eli out of retirement.

In comment 16481052 Darwinian said:

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why, because this person says so???

With the first sentence if ownership is trying to prove you can win with DJ. We have seen enough to know that you can’t especially with how Tommy DeVito looked better than him with the same limitations around him.

That being said, the overall state of the roster has not built up any clout for Schoen to say that we should trade already limited capital for a coin flip. Even if it is a QB that the scouts and coaches all think can succeed in the NFL, there are still lots of holes on this team and that is Schoen’s fault.

who is Dianna Russini?

In comment 16481059 Eric from BBI said:

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we wait and see what happens. We're only a couple of days away at this point.

agreed..

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In comment 16481052 Darwinian said: Quote: . why, because this person says so???

Thursday can't get here fast enough

In comment 16481059 Eric from BBI said:

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we wait and see what happens. We're only a couple of days away at this point.

Yep. Two day window is prime grain of salt season.

and I didn't have the right to do whatever I wanted with the first draft choice, I would resign before Round 2

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

YEP, my thinking as well. If you are on the edge and ready to kill Giant ownership and management at the drop of the hat then this report is for you. But, this seems HIGHLY guessing and possibly done very specifically (maybe someone's agent, ahem DJ) etc...

But if Russini has a better source on this than Mara, I guess she's right.

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

lol. No idea. Someone who's being used to muddy the waters.

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Russini isn’t some quack. She used to work for ESPN and now The Athletic. I have no clue if she’s dialed in, but this isn’t some Twitter account with 10 followers.

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

Just someone else with an opinion they write as fact.

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

Former ESPN sideline reporter and semi insider. I believe she's moved onto the Athletic now. I also beloeve she's from NJ so she's provided intel on Jets and Giants.

In comment 16481082 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Russini isn’t some quack. She used to work for ESPN and now The Athletic. I have no clue if she’s dialed in, but this isn’t some Twitter account with 10 followers.

Ha, I like your summary better than mine.

when she said Kraft was interfering:

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You see right there? djm : 4/22/2024 3:09 pm : link : reply That is when you know the owner is heavily involved in personnel decisions. When do you know? When reporters are literally saying, “the owner is heavily involved in personnel decision-making.” And how would reporters know this? Because owners can’t lie in the shadows quietly pulling strings, that’s why. Ego.

For intellectual consistency, I do hope this same poster will admit know that there is proof that Mara is involved in determining draft strategy.

but would not pay a premium to draft a good QB prospect. Happy to see that the Giants ownership is reluctant to trade up.

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

Russini is a trusted NFL insider, who worked at ESPN and now works at the Athletic. She’s not some random Twitter expert.

And the hits just keep on coming with this thing.

(No QB). Yikes.

I linked the full discussion, starts at the 20:20 minute mark.

Mays slammed this way of thinking as saying it's a reason bad teams stay bad. He outlines a very real scenario:

-NYG drafts Nabers at 6
-The team improves slightly and goes 8-9 in 2024
-Now you enter 2025 with Jones costing $47M against the cap

Drafting a QB here actually gives you a better chance to win in the next 2-3 years since you are resetting the QB clock.

Bad teams stay bad when they don't admit mistakes. As an aside, I don't think Russini has any idea what NYG is thinking.

Rapaport said yesterday NYG was trying to trade up. Sounds like Russini is working with old information.
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Not as many holes on the roster as some think. Clearly, there are holes, some have been plugged in FA. What they need is a good draft to address the major holes and add depth.

Maras are going to let Schoen run the draft. Schoen knows what he's doing. Bit of a gamble on the Jones' contract though and he lost. Doesn't mean Jones is entirely worthless. He's just not the future.

It's like having a week long game thread, lol.

File this under: Information I agree with is true. Information I don't agree with is false.

now works for The Atlantic. She goes good work, very personable and easy on the eyes in person too.

They're not even sure DJ will have a successful rehab. Schoen himself has said they will take a QB. I think this "they have to win with DJ" is bullshit

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File this under: Information I agree with is true. Information I don't agree with is false.

Yep. This story will literally confirm what everyone believes, regardless of what they believe. People who agree with me are proof, people who don't are stupid, and or making stuff up for clicks.

see some of you get put in a true pressure situation. Blowing up because some reporter makes a quip statement is beyond foolish. Click bait reports that are against the grain are the only way to get people to look and share at this late stage of the pre-draft hoopla.

It is 100% correct that the owners would "balk" at moving up after giving a huge contract - that doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. They would actually be stupid to not at least be questioning.

Look I believe nothing I hear right now.

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

She is one of those insiders who over exaggerates everything..

For example she said Rodgers gave the Jets a list of players that he wanted them to sign, in reality the Jets probably asked him who he likes that is available...

I am guessing she heard Giants Ownership said they dont want to kverpay for a QB because they still have jones and overexaggerated the story to make headlines

she was told what she said.

I think it’s obvious at this point that the main target in this draft is Drake Maye. While his footwork is flawed, he has the making of a franchise QB with his size, arm, and play making ability. The issue is that you aren’t getting him unless you give up next year’s first and more. This is a thin roster, and giving away picks and Maye being a disappointment could lead the franchise into further despair. (I.e the Carolina Panthers). I’m sure that’s the last thing Mara wants.

The main point is that Schoen and Daboll have to be 200% certain they can make Maye work. They have to have a plan that makes sense and can be executed without certainty. We’ll have to wait and see come Thursday.

to not believe anything I hear within 7 days of the draft

I really wonder if they keep Jones on the roster. Having Maye and Jones on the roster would not ideal, as the fans and media will pressure the Giants to start Maye as soon as Jones makes a mistake. You also risk the injury guarantee for 2025 if you play Jones. I would not be surprised if Jones is cut as a post June 1st cut, and the Giants take his cap hits over 2 seasons.

The plan would then be to start Drew Lock, until Maye is ready midway through the season.

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they are.

If ownership thinks we can still win with Jones we are doomed. This report just seems like speculation though.

have, indeed, heard what they say they've heard. That does not speak to its accuracy in either direction

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but would not pay a premium to draft a good QB prospect. Happy to see that the Giants ownership is reluctant to trade up.

dear god- you have NO idea who is Elite..

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she was told what she said.

Quite likely, as I doubt they'll outspend the Vikes to trade up.

Ill be honest I looked these up expecting her to be accurate

2018
Dianna Russini: Giants going QB or RB tomorrow night
BeckShepEli (4/25/2018 2:39 pm

Just because we want more rumors. She was just on ESPN NFL Live. She said Team sources tell Dianna Russini that the Giants will select QB or RB tomorrow night. She also reports scouts an
d assistants dont even know who will be drafted as they havent been told.

2019

Dianna Russini: Giants will not draft Haskins, no QB at 6

3/12/2019 9:13 am
take it for what it's worth, but she was just on ESPN New York saying from team sources she has heard, QB is not in play for them this year, and they'll continue to bolster the defense through th
e draft, especially DL, with emphasis on OL as well if the value is there.

2022

Dianna Russini: Jones deal 50/50, Barkley talks have stalled
No1MDGiantsFan am

“ The Giants are working towards getting a long-term contract done with Daniel Jones. As of this now, sources share “it’s truly 50/50…if a deal isn’t struck by today’s deadline, he will be tagged
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As for Saquon Barkley, I’m told negotiations started but have been stalled”

2022



“ Saquon Barkley has made it clear the franchise tag is undesirable. I’m told his availability for Week 1 against the Dallas Cowboys will be in serious question if he does not get a long-term deal from the Giants.” - Russini

2023

Dianna Russini: Giants are "not done"
GiantGrit
3/14/2023 3:51 pm
adding skill players. Said WR is up next. Did not mention trade or FA but I think the healthy bet
is trade. Eyes on Jeudy with some unsubstantiated twitter noise on Aiyuk

In comment 16481064 Eric from BBI said:

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who is Dianna Russini?

Exactly my thoughts. She knows this how?

but i have a hard time believing that ownership told her what their preference is in the draft.

don't think Maye or JJM are worth trading a ton of draft capital and players to move up and get, but I would be more comfortable doing so if the roster was otherwise in better shape. But it isn't, and that's on Schoen. After two full offseasons, he really hasn't improved it much. I'm willing to give him more time, but the simple truth is that many of his player personnel decisions have so far not worked out well. And that includes being at least partially responsible for giving Jones that idiotic contract. He therefore hasn't earned the right to give up a lot of draft capital and players to move up for anyone. His track record simply isn't good enough right now.

but it so are others and I don’t really take their opinion at face value the week of the draft either.

but if they were to draft another disruptive player to add to the defensive front seven, there really are not many hole left in that defense. With three or four legit pass rushers to occupy the other team's offense, Simmons could probably sneak up to the line and have a couple of free runs at the QB, and he closes fast. Corner the main problem left.

Everyone is so offense-oriented. Many here I suppose were not engaged with the Giants back in that watershed year of 1981.

In comment 16481138 HardTruth said:

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Ill be honest I looked these up expecting her to be accurate 2018 Dianna Russini: Giants going QB or RB tomorrow night BeckShepEli (4/25/2018 2:39 pm Just because we want more rumors. She was just on ESPN NFL Live. She said Team sources tell Dianna Russini that the Giants will select QB or RB tomorrow night. She also reports scouts an d assistants dont even know who will be drafted as they havent been told. 2019 Dianna Russini: Giants will not draft Haskins, no QB at 6 3/12/2019 9:13 am take it for what it's worth, but she was just on ESPN New York saying from team sources she has heard, QB is not in play for them this year, and they'll continue to bolster the defense through th e draft, especially DL, with emphasis on OL as well if the value is there. 2022 Dianna Russini: Jones deal 50/50, Barkley talks have stalled No1MDGiantsFan am “ The Giants are working towards getting a long-term contract done with Daniel Jones. As of this now, sources share “it’s truly 50/50…if a deal isn’t struck by today’s deadline, he will be tagged .” As for Saquon Barkley, I’m told negotiations started but have been stalled” 2022 “ Saquon Barkley has made it clear the franchise tag is undesirable. I’m told his availability for Week 1 against the Dallas Cowboys will be in serious question if he does not get a long-term deal from the Giants.” - Russini 2023 Dianna Russini: Giants are "not done" GiantGrit 3/14/2023 3:51 pm adding skill players. Said WR is up next. Did not mention trade or FA but I think the healthy bet is trade. Eyes on Jeudy with some unsubstantiated twitter noise on Aiyuk

no offense but she didn't break any of that news- many people were reporting those things. The tea leaves on Barkley were there after the midseason unable to get a deal done and we didn't trade him (2022), thus Jones getting his deal was FAR more likely to happen and a necessity for "ownership" to keep Barkley..

That is the one blame I will squarely lay at Mara's feet, he wanted Barkley to stay no matter what and the only way they could (Schoen and Dabs) could do that was get Jones signed (bigger numbers but left themselves an out) and tag Barkley.. I hate it but that is what it is...