Raanan: Giants looking to trade up for Maye

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It is time!

its gonna happen....


The reports were cloudy before we pretty much knew daniels was going 2. now that its been like widely reported, im sure NE is more inclined to move out of 3. hence the more rumors flooding with NE wanting out and teams wanting in.

and they want McCarthy. You know.. a winner.

I'm curious - what will folks tweet out tomorrow?

I also tend to think QBs go off the board 1, 2, and 3 and ultimately theres nothing we can do about it. My question is how do they really feel about McCarthy. That's harder to parse out. If he's(JJM) available at 6 its going to be incredibly interesting to see if they pull the trigger or trade down.

I'm not expecting trades in the top 5, but if JJM makes it to 6 Denver and Minnesota become very interesting potential trade partners. Especially if Denver is really willing to part with Surtain. Of all he scenarios we've speculated about that is te one that grabs me bc it's a short road to an identity.

In comment 16481478 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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and they want McCarthy. You know.. a winner.

I'd certainly be fine with Maye, but of the two I would prefer McCarthy...

anything the week of the draft?

point to Maye being the QB the Giants covet (given that Williams and Daniels will be off the board).

Can they get it done? That's not a given.

In comment 16481485 ZogZerg said:

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I'm curious - what will folks tweet out tomorrow?

Giants are at least listening to offers to trade down.

giants, pats, and cards makes a lot of sense for all 3 parties.

Pats want JJM
Giants want Maye
Cardinals want an elite WR and compensated to moved dowm.

This also boxes out a team like Minnesota from trading up.\

Now this all is predicated on Pats liking JJM over Maye (which is possible) and the Cardinals turning down a lucrative offer from the Vikings because they know they can't fall back too far knowing Giants and Pats will pick QB's and they will get either MHjr or Nabers.

In comment 16481491 Eric from BBI said:

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point to Maye being the QB the Giants covet (given that Williams and Daniels will be off the board). Can they get it done? That's not a given.

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In comment 16481491 Eric from BBI said:

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point to Maye being the QB the Giants covet (given that Williams and Daniels will be off the board). Can they get it done? That's not a given.

all they can do is try. If NE won't move and wants to draft Maye there is little we can do other than make them an incredible offer that would get it done if they were not set on taking Maye. If they think Maye is their QB of the future, there probably is nothing we can do.

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In comment 16481478 LawrenceTaylor56 said: Quote: and they want McCarthy. You know.. a winner. I'd certainly be fine with Maye, but of the two I would prefer McCarthy...

I definitely prefer JJM, but there's a lot of smoke behind JJM to NE for there to be no fire. I'd make a move for Maye if no JJM. I wouldn't trade the farm for either of them, but I'd trade a reasonable package to AZ or potentially the 3 team maneuver.

In comment 16481491 Eric from BBI said:

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point to Maye being the QB the Giants covet (given that Williams and Daniels will be off the board). Can they get it done? That's not a given.

I was pretty much in line with if Washington went Daniels then NE would be more amenable to moving back. Daniels was the difference maker to me for Mayo.

Let's get this done..

In comment 16481497 Essex said:

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In comment 16481491 Eric from BBI said: Quote: point to Maye being the QB the Giants covet (given that Williams and Daniels will be off the board). Can they get it done? That's not a given. all they can do is try. If NE won't move and wants to draft Maye there is little we can do other than make them an incredible offer that would get it done if they were not set on taking Maye. If they think Maye is their QB of the future, there probably is nothing we can do.

If I had to guess, NE does not love Maye…there’s been way too much smoke around them moving the pick. You don’t do that if you believe a franchise QB is going to be on the board (and your starter as of the moment is Brisset).

to where he got the info.....BBI

And 70. Steep price, especially considering that next years 1 will likely be in the top half of the draft — but worth it if Maye is as good as I believe he is.

I’m all for it. I think he has all the requisite for a franchise QB, size, mobility, and cannon arm. Of course he has flaws, poor footwork and decision making, but I think with proper coaching his upside can be reached.

I don’t want to give up next year’s first, but if it has to be done it should be done. Also if it were for McCarthy, I would not support a trade up. I firmly believe his ceiling isn’t anywhere near as highs.

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In comment 16481495 mphbullet36 said:

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giants, pats, and cards makes a lot of sense for all 3 parties. Pats want JJM Giants want Maye Cardinals want an elite WR and compensated to moved dowm. This also boxes out a team like Minnesota from trading up.\ Now this all is predicated on Pats liking JJM over Maye (which is possible) and the Cardinals turning down a lucrative offer from the Vikings because they know they can't fall back too far knowing Giants and Pats will pick QB's and they will get either MHjr or Nabers.

The key to the idea of the 3 team trade is Arizona.

They have 13 picks in the draft including 2 first round picks. I have to believe that the want to get quality as well as quantity. If they like Nabers just as much as MHJ then I can see this happening. The Chargers are a massive wild card at this point, which is why NYG would try to create this scenario with NE and AZ.

Gosh I can't wait until Thursday night!

still don't know who the Commanders are taking however.

a basketball school. Maybe we got the bad luck out of the way with Dave Brown and Jones? Third times a charm as they say.

In comment 16481517 eric2425ny said:

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a basketball school. Maybe we got the bad luck out of the way with Dave Brown and Jones? Third times a charm as they say.

Well, North Carolina has been good to us.

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In comment 16481522 Sean said:

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Sounds like he is reading BBI.

In comment 16481495 mphbullet36 said:

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giants, pats, and cards makes a lot of sense for all 3 parties. Pats want JJM Giants want Maye Cardinals want an elite WR and compensated to moved dowm. This also boxes out a team like Minnesota from trading up.\ Now this all is predicated on Pats liking JJM over Maye (which is possible) and the Cardinals turning down a lucrative offer from the Vikings because they know they can't fall back too far knowing Giants and Pats will pick QB's and they will get either MHjr or Nabers.

Wolf pulling a Ossenfort last year and trading down to 6 and then moving up to 4 to land JJ, might be possible. Of course they can just stay at 3 and draft JJ, but I’m sure they would want another 1st for next year if they would trade down.

Any of these four quarterbacks for NYG would be fully endorsed by me, but Maye is the one that scares me the most.
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100%

We see you Mr. Raanan!

In comment 16481515 Eric from BBI said:

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still don't know who the Commanders are taking however.

They are taking Daniels. Everything else is a smoke screen.

Maye coming into focus. Cards Pats Giants. Could be 3 team, could be double trade up. Whatever the way they execute it Giants at 3, Pats 4 and Cards 6 maximizes what each team wants most while minimizes interference from other teams in between each pick.

Giants @3- their new face of franchise QB who checks both Dabolls and ownership boxes for what they look for in a QB
Pats@4 -McCarthy who Kraft wants, picks and possibly extra player what Wolf wants
Cards@6- extra picks while still getting choice of at least 2 of the 3 blue-chip WRs

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Names Jordan Raanan has heard for RB’s that the Giants have looked at:

Audric Estime
Marshawn Lloyd
Jaylen Wright
Trey Benson (who came in for a visit)
Ray Davis

Names Jordan Raanan has heard for TE’s that the Giants have looked at:

Ben Sinnott
Jared Wiley
Theo Johnson
Tip Reiman

Jordan Raanan notes that the Giants are looking for a pass catching TE





I like all of those guys, but what about my RB1 Jonathon Brooks!?!

looking to trade up a Joe Schoen smoke screen? In which case, maybe he is trying to bait Minnesota (or Denver? or Las Vegas?) to trade up for a QB to ensure two of the three top-end WRs are sitting there for the Giants at 6.

In comment 16481532 JoeyBigBlue said:

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In comment 16481515 Eric from BBI said: Quote: still don't know who the Commanders are taking however. They are taking Daniels. Everything else is a smoke screen.

You can opine all you want. But we don't know.

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In comment 16481495 mphbullet36 said: Quote: giants, pats, and cards makes a lot of sense for all 3 parties. Pats want JJM Giants want Maye Cardinals want an elite WR and compensated to moved dowm. This also boxes out a team like Minnesota from trading up.\ Now this all is predicated on Pats liking JJM over Maye (which is possible) and the Cardinals turning down a lucrative offer from the Vikings because they know they can't fall back too far knowing Giants and Pats will pick QB's and they will get either MHjr or Nabers. Wolf pulling a Ossenfort last year and trading down to 6 and then moving up to 4 to land JJ, might be possible. Of course they can just stay at 3 and draft JJ, but I’m sure they would want another 1st for next year if they would trade down.

I don't think it would be NE moving down. I think it would be either a true 3 team trade at once or we would move up to 4 then to 3.

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In comment 16481495 mphbullet36 said: Quote: giants, pats, and cards makes a lot of sense for all 3 parties. Pats want JJM Giants want Maye Cardinals want an elite WR and compensated to moved dowm. This also boxes out a team like Minnesota from trading up.\ Now this all is predicated on Pats liking JJM over Maye (which is possible) and the Cardinals turning down a lucrative offer from the Vikings because they know they can't fall back too far knowing Giants and Pats will pick QB's and they will get either MHjr or Nabers. Wolf pulling a Ossenfort last year and trading down to 6 and then moving up to 4 to land JJ, might be possible. Of course they can just stay at 3 and draft JJ, but I’m sure they would want another 1st for next year if they would trade down.

I don't think at this point its a surprise on who the teams want or at least what they are trying to do...if the Giants are having convos with Pats they obviously are talking about iterations about who they will pick.

If Giants know pats like JJM more and pats know Giants like Drake Maye more they obviously can execute a trade.

Also if the Giants and Pats know the Cardinals want to secure one of the top WR's...that means they really can't trade much past #6...

so basically by divulging all this info to each other pats and cards get the players they want and get extra draft capital to do it. Giants get there QB...and they box out the Vikings from trading up.

other news, water is wet.

That the Giants have been trying to move up for Maye has been known for weeks.

In comment 16481547 BleedBlue46 said:

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In comment 16481528 JoeyBigBlue said: Quote: In comment 16481495 mphbullet36 said: Quote: giants, pats, and cards makes a lot of sense for all 3 parties. Pats want JJM Giants want Maye Cardinals want an elite WR and compensated to moved dowm. This also boxes out a team like Minnesota from trading up.\ Now this all is predicated on Pats liking JJM over Maye (which is possible) and the Cardinals turning down a lucrative offer from the Vikings because they know they can't fall back too far knowing Giants and Pats will pick QB's and they will get either MHjr or Nabers. Wolf pulling a Ossenfort last year and trading down to 6 and then moving up to 4 to land JJ, might be possible. Of course they can just stay at 3 and draft JJ, but I’m sure they would want another 1st for next year if they would trade down. I don't think it would be NE moving down. I think it would be either a true 3 team trade at once or we would move up to 4 then to 3.

Yeah I think all 3 teams (after the first two picks go - pretty much locked to be Williams and Daniels).

Once that happens the wheels can start turning. I don't think Pats agree to a trade down without basically guaranteeing they get JJM. The only way that woudl happen is if they knew they could only move down to #4 with Cardinals out of fear Vikings or DEN could trade up with Cardinals...

So all 3 teams would have to agree on the deal and the Giants basically have to tell pats they won't pick JJM.

the Giants really want to do this, then they should only deal directly with NE. I would offer Neal, Ojulari, and our #1 next year. Might throw in Slayton.

In comment 16481563 AcidTest said:

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the Giants really want to do this, then they should only deal directly with NE. I would offer Neal, Ojulari, and our #1 next year. Might throw in Slayton.

Having a hard time believing Evan Neal and Azzez Ojulari represent much of an enticement.

I think it means it's 100% truth. Whether it's for Maye remains to be seen, I could still see teams not being forthright about the player they want, nor do I see teams even disclosing the player they may want, but a trade up in the works? You can't really hide those intensions. I do believe NYG are trying to move up. And it's obviously for a QB.

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In comment 16481491 Eric from BBI said:

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point to Maye being the QB the Giants covet (given that Williams and Daniels will be off the board). Can they get it done? That's not a given.

It's weird that GoDeep got fed false info, if so.

In comment 16481509 JoeyBigBlue said:

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I’m all for it. I think he has all the requisite for a franchise QB, size, mobility, and cannon arm. Of course he has flaws, poor footwork and decision making, but I think with proper coaching his upside can be reached. I don’t want to give up next year’s first, but if it has to be done it should be done. Also if it were for McCarthy, I would not support a trade up. I firmly believe his ceiling isn’t anywhere near as highs.

Going from 6 to 3 isn't "quite" the same as going from 4 to 1, but it does require hopping over 3 slots and it does involve a QB at 3, so essentially it's pretty damn close to what NYG did for Eli. And we you all know we paid the future first.

NO way in hell should we give up 24 second rounder AND a future first, that's over the line in my view. One or the other, and mid round picks and let's go to work. If NE was smart they'd probably take the 2025 first.

In comment 16481524 Eric from BBI said:

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Exactly

In comment 16481549 Sy'56 said:

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I assume this is to the people who think all signs point to Maye?

In comment 16481563 AcidTest said:

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the Giants really want to do this, then they should only deal directly with NE. I would offer Neal, Ojulari, and our #1 next year. Might throw in Slayton.

I think the cost could be cheaper if you make the move as a 3 team trade or first go up to pick 4 then to pick 3.

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In comment 16481549 Sy'56 said: Quote: . I assume this is to the people who think all signs point to Maye?

My guess is he's just laughing at Raanan reporting obvious stuff and potentially using BBI as his source lol