There are a lot of discussions about the signals that we are drafting a QB in round 1 tomorrow. But WR1 is an afterthought and has not looked into closely.
Since JS became the GM 2 years ago, he made a lot of decisions.
QB: spent a year evaluating DJ and gave out a large contract. Signed 2 veteran QBs in FA market. You may not like his decisions. But you can't deny his effors and investments.
OL: one 1st round, one 2nd round, one 3rd round, plus multiple FA signings. A lot of investment.
DE and DB: 1 1st round each.
RB: to Giants this was a high value position due to the history of drafting SB. JS did give a big contract at the high end of what he believed the position value is. Even though it didn't work out, JS spent time and prepared to invest heavily.
But what about the 2nd most valuable position: WR? Giants have one of the worst WR roster and what JS did is one 2nd round and one 3rd round, with very little FA signings.
Even more, in the past few months:
- Darius Slayton, the current fill the gap WR1, is asking for contract discussion and Giants are not engaging;
- Darren Waller who could cover part of the WR1 role is potentially retiring
- No activitiy in FA markets
So the thin and low performing WR roster could be even (much) worse next season.
Another fact: Giants brough 4 WRs to the 30 visits, 3 round 1 candidates and the other one is probably a round 7 candidate. Nobody in the middle rounds. That means if Giants either draft an WR in round 1 or not at all.
Put everything together, if JS drafts a QB in round 1, he is basically ignoring the 2nd most valuable position that Giants desperately need and will get worse next season for 3 years.
As analytical and smart a person as JS is, he is probably screening every position based on value and need 100 times every day and build the strategy and make efforts accordingly. I can't explain how he could just ignore WR1 like that, which is why I think more likely he will pick WR1 tomorrow.
Jefferson is about to get paid and he was a first rounder, but he was the fifth WR picked in his draft.
WRs are easy to find relative to other positions.
Jefferson is about to get paid and he was a first rounder, but he was the fifth WR picked in his draft.
WRs are easy to find relative to other positions.
Funny how WR's get found (added to teams) that have established QB's. How many WR's have been found with shit at QB?
It's not like this is year 1 of the regime. This is year 3. The Giants would have gone 3 years in this regime with no resolution at QB and nowhere closer to competing than they were when hired.
My stance is status quo at QB means this regime would need to make the playoffs at minimum to keep their jobs.
Fortunately, the college system keeps manufacturing and producing them at a high rate both in quality and quantity.
So, it makes sense to grab one later rather than sooner, especially this year.
Daniel Jones won that game by himself. Where's Gatorade Dunk to post the image of the banners?
I mean they also won that same game with Jones at QB…
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with Slayton and a bunch of dudes playing WR.
I mean they also won that same game with Jones at QB…
Says a lot about that Vikings team.
In comment 16484035 bw in dc said:
Fortunately, the college system keeps manufacturing and producing them at a high rate both in quality and quantity.
So, it makes sense to grab one later rather than sooner, especially this year.
Jefferson is about to get paid and he was a first rounder, but he was the fifth WR picked in his draft.
WRs are easy to find relative to other positions.
This is such an important point and easy to forget in the hysteria of the draft. The Giants need to find a Qb. Take a chance. If it doesn't work. Take another chance. But don't let fear of failure drive decision making.
Jefferson is about to get paid and he was a first rounder, but he was the fifth WR picked in his draft.
WRs are easy to find relative to other positions.
Just listened to him say WSH should go McCarthy at 2 and the more he watches Maye the less he likes him.
I agree about his point about connectivity at QB. Players seem to love playing for McCarthy and Penix.
I absolutely love Nabers, but I'd much rather see what Slayton, Robinson, and Hyatt can do with a new quarterback.
I would say, not fixing the QB room is worse. As stated earlier, later round WR especially in this draft, can become your elite stud. With a better QB, Wandale and Hyatt could become elite. Even Slayton will seem improved. Improve the circumstances for those Wr's.
Sometimes the market lags and it takes a while to catch up. It certainly did with RBs. Not saying WRs will become that commoditized, but it may happen.
Frankly, I wouldn't mind paying a great WR we drafted a big second contract if we had a legit battery mate.
Until we solve the biggest problem, however, this seems like we are putting the cart (WR) before the horse (QB).
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Then why WRs are getting such big contracts? It's all about supply and demand. If the college system is producing a lot of great WRs every year, there should be plenty of great WRs in the market. And their price should be surpressed.
Sometimes the market lags and it takes a while to catch up. It certainly did with RBs. Not saying WRs will become that commoditized, but it may happen.
Frankly, I wouldn't mind paying a great WR we drafted a big second contract if we had a legit battery mate.
Until we solve the biggest problem, however, this seems like we are putting the cart (WR) before the horse (QB).
agreed. As I said in another spot (here or other thread), what WR has been found (later on) or even taken high for a team with a shit QB? Great WR's can only elevate a QB so much- contested passes being caught, breaking tackles and taking it to the house etc., they can't help the QB actually throw it to them, near them or throw it at all..
1. What they think Giants/JS SHOULD do
2. What they think Giants/JS WILL do
For #1, everyone has repeating their opinions thousands of times. It's loud and clear.
But what I'm trying to discuss in the post is #2. And my prediction is based on what JS said and did, and his personality. It's not based on what I think JS should do.
I would say, not fixing the QB room is worse. As stated earlier, later round WR especially in this draft, can become your elite stud. With a better QB, Wandale and Hyatt could become elite. Even Slayton will seem improved. Improve the circumstances for those Wr's.
+1
This .... OL and QB is 1 and 2 priority wise for the offense in that order.
How do you know who he is evaluating? They do look at players outside of the 30 who visit.
The main action he took in FA was on the OL, which outside of the QB is the weakest part of the team.