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Dan Orlovsky on Drake Maye

GFAN52 : 4/25/2024 8:49 am
Dan Orlovsky
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If I were the Giants or the Vikings I would be trying to desperately get up to 3 to draft Drake Maye

And I don’t think I would move off 3 if I was New England unless I got a minimum of (3) #1 picks



Three #1's? OK thanks but no thanks.
That's at least one reason why Giants won't do it. Cost too much  
Blue21 : 4/25/2024 8:54 am : link
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If I was the Patriots  
section125 : 4/25/2024 8:56 am : link
I don't move off that pick because I use it to get my QB, whom ever it is.....
There  
AcidTest : 4/25/2024 8:58 am : link
was a report in one of the threads that the Patriots wouldn't move off #3 for less than three #1 picks. They know that in any other draft Maye would be QB #1, and want an offer that reflects that fact. That is why I think the Giants have pivoted to JJM.
Not sure  
upnyg : 4/25/2024 8:59 am : link
I would trust his decision making, he did run out of the back of the endzone and try to throw a pass.
NE  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 9:01 am : link
will be hell for Maye. Zero chance with that staff and roster.
RE: If I was the Patriots  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 9:05 am : link
In comment 16485411 section125 said:
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I don't move off that pick because I use it to get my QB, whom ever it is.....


I think they’re an organization that’s really in bit of chaos. Roster is bad, real bad and they know it. The coaching staff is not looking too great and may just be biding time for 2-3 yrs for another turnover, plus there’s issues of ownership meddling and front office “tryouts” conflicting with visions of how to rebuild.
RE: NE  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2024 9:05 am : link
In comment 16485431 Sammo85 said:
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will be hell for Maye. Zero chance with that staff and roster.


I agree, of all the teams for a rookie QB to develop, the Patriots are not high on my list.
Three 1st Rounders?!? LoL good luck with that  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/25/2024 9:11 am : link
…Minny can have him at that price. Stay at #6 and draft a future all-pro at WR or trade down and draft a future all-pro at DT/CB. Or trade down and draft Penix.
RE: Not sure  
BigTymer : 4/25/2024 9:12 am : link
In comment 16485425 upnyg said:
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I would trust his decision making, he did run out of the back of the endzone and try to throw a pass.

Orlovsky was a below average QB at UCONN. Find it funny he's now an "authority figure" for NFL coverage...

"3 #1's" is a ridiculous statement as its way too vague. Not all #1 picks are created equal as covered in other threads.
RE: RE: Not sure  
Dankbeerman : 4/25/2024 9:24 am : link
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I would trust his decision making, he did run out of the back of the endzone and try to throw a pass.


Orlovsky was a below average QB at UCONN. Find it funny he's now an "authority figure" for NFL coverage...

"3 #1's" is a ridiculous statement as its way too vague. Not all #1 picks are created equal as covered in other threads.
3 1'S Is what it would take for Minn to come from 11. From 6 its more like 2 1's
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jestersdead : 4/25/2024 9:32 am : link
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I would trust his decision making, he did run out of the back of the endzone and try to throw a pass.


Orlovsky was a below average QB at UCONN. Find it funny he's now an "authority figure" for NFL coverage...

"3 #1's" is a ridiculous statement as its way too vague. Not all #1 picks are created equal as covered in other threads.

These kind of comments crack me up. The guy played in the NFL, studies a ton of film, especially the QB position. Has connections to all the teams in the league but lets knock him for his comment.

If Sy made this comment its taken as God's words. Whats the difference between Sy and Dan O or Chris Simms? They're all doing the same thing
This years Zach Wilson  
averagejoe : 4/25/2024 9:39 am : link
His skills and legend are growing every hour. I really don't see it. They have never seen a big strong Dummy QB before ? Sure hope Pats save Giants from themselves .
RE: This years Zach Wilson  
Mbavaro : 4/25/2024 9:53 am : link
In comment 16485534 averagejoe said:
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His skills and legend are growing every hour. I really don't see it. They have never seen a big strong Dummy QB before ? Sure hope Pats save Giants from themselves .


So basically you didn’t watch any 2022 tape of Maye then have an understanding why 2023 was uneven
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averagejoe : 4/25/2024 10:18 am : link
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His skills and legend are growing every hour. I really don't see it. They have never seen a big strong Dummy QB before ? Sure hope Pats save Giants from themselves .



So basically you didn’t watch any 2022 tape of Maye then have an understanding why 2023 was uneven


The 2023 tape scared me off. Watched 3 games and didn't see anything impressive. He looks easily confused and inaccurate and very shaky when pressured. I would really be happy to be wrong if we get him but what I saw was not good .
You also have to consider  
Beer Man : 4/25/2024 10:22 am : link
that there is a good chance the Giants will be picking in the top-10 again next season.
RE: RE: RE: This years Zach Wilson  
Mbavaro : 4/25/2024 10:27 am : link
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His skills and legend are growing every hour. I really don't see it. They have never seen a big strong Dummy QB before ? Sure hope Pats save Giants from themselves .



So basically you didn’t watch any 2022 tape of Maye then have an understanding why 2023 was uneven



The 2023 tape scared me off. Watched 3 games and didn't see anything impressive. He looks easily confused and inaccurate and very shaky when pressured. I would really be happy to be wrong if we get him but what I saw was not good .


The reason why 2023 looked different than 2022 was that he had a new OC and literally lost his entire receiving core from 2022….therefore a ton of inexperience at the position

Look at 2022 and you’ll have a bit of a different take
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AcidTest : 4/25/2024 10:33 am : link
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His skills and legend are growing every hour. I really don't see it. They have never seen a big strong Dummy QB before ? Sure hope Pats save Giants from themselves .



So basically you didn’t watch any 2022 tape of Maye then have an understanding why 2023 was uneven



The 2023 tape scared me off. Watched 3 games and didn't see anything impressive. He looks easily confused and inaccurate and very shaky when pressured. I would really be happy to be wrong if we get him but what I saw was not good .



The reason why 2023 looked different than 2022 was that he had a new OC and literally lost his entire receiving core from 2022….therefore a ton of inexperience at the position

Look at 2022 and you’ll have a bit of a different take


Those are the same excuses that almost everyone here has rightly rejected for Jones. Maye was subpar in 2023. A potential franchise QB would have played much better despite having a new OC, a bad OL, and losing most of his WRs from the previous year. Franchise QBs overcome those problems and win anyway. He's not a franchise QB if everything has to be perfect around him for him to succeed.

His 2022 season means he's worth taking at #6, but his at best mediocre 2023 season means that the Giants should not give up a ton of draft capital and possibly players to trade up to get.
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Mbavaro : 4/25/2024 10:48 am : link
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His skills and legend are growing every hour. I really don't see it. They have never seen a big strong Dummy QB before ? Sure hope Pats save Giants from themselves .



So basically you didn’t watch any 2022 tape of Maye then have an understanding why 2023 was uneven



The 2023 tape scared me off. Watched 3 games and didn't see anything impressive. He looks easily confused and inaccurate and very shaky when pressured. I would really be happy to be wrong if we get him but what I saw was not good .



The reason why 2023 looked different than 2022 was that he had a new OC and literally lost his entire receiving core from 2022….therefore a ton of inexperience at the position

Look at 2022 and you’ll have a bit of a different take



Those are the same excuses that almost everyone here has rightly rejected for Jones. Maye was subpar in 2023. A potential franchise QB would have played much better despite having a new OC, a bad OL, and losing most of his WRs from the previous year. Franchise QBs overcome those problems and win anyway. He's not a franchise QB if everything has to be perfect around him for him to succeed.

His 2022 season means he's worth taking at #6, but his at best mediocre 2023 season means that the Giants should not give up a ton of draft capital and possibly players to trade up to get.


We can agree to disagree
As those facts are not an excuses and a very legitimate reason for the uneven performance

I don’t know about talent,  
Reese's Pieces : 4/25/2024 11:42 am : link
But Drake Maye has the best name for a future HOF QB.

Way better than “Penix.”
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