Does Daniel Jones have any trade value?

i mean...if you eat most of his salary, then i could see a shit team like broncos sending a 4th. we hate on jones here but he is better than everyone BY FAR in that QB room...

you can also part with him after this season so...

no

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I don't hate him like some here who act like he fucked their mom but his injury history alone makes me want him gone. Never mind he's a runner first. Just not a good enough Qb. Once that contract is gone he's a BU type at best.

as a study or dissection subject but what are you going to ask for in return.

You'd be lucky coming off an injury to get a 6

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he is injury prone....bad combination

And he wouldn't have enough protection or weapons to be successful. Just cut him as soon as he passes a physical and end this disastrous chapter of Giants history.

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and a starting QB for a contender goes down for 4-5 games. A team like the Lions might call if Goff goes down for a stretch.

Certainly nothing to count on.

No.

No.

Maybe we could get a 7th. But remember too that he's just a rental because he's overpaid by 30M in 25

A) He passes his physical and is cleared to play and passes the trading teams physical.

B) They/DJ remove the injury guarantee in his contract.

C) The Giants eat most of the contract (if that’s possible)

Even after all of that you’re probably at most getting a swap of late round picks.
If the Broncos got nothing for Russell Wilson, what can you possibly expect the Giants to get for DJ?

the sooner the Giants can move from him the better for all parties.

If that's a trade, cool. If it meana a Post 6/1 release once he clears medical, also cool.

Nabers @ 6..

Should not confuse this scenario with Giants getting OBJ.. OBJ had Eli and that was a Huge factor in his early success..

Daniel Jones will not be to Nabers what Eli was to OBJ, just won't be..

He does not.

he does.

He has value to all those teams out there looking for a mid to slightly worse injury prone QB with a bloated contract.

The key is for Schoen to find all those teams who have that in mind with what they're looking for.

he's injured. Any trade would be 7th round plus NYG eating some of the money.

If we add our 2nd round pick and pay most of this years salary he has trade value.

does that accelerate the injury guarantee? Or is the next team stuck with it?

That's what makes the contract an albatross.

In comment 16486306 logman said:

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the sooner the Giants can move from him the better for all parties. If that's a trade, cool. If it meana a Post 6/1 release once he clears medical, also cool.

He's not getting cut this year. That would be cap crippling.

The short answer is yes he has trade value.

The long answer is he would most certainly have to restructure and forego his injury guarantee, and the Giants would have to eat all but the minimum of his 2024 salary.

In a scenario like that he might fetch a conditional late round pick.

In comment 16486472 christian said:

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The short answer is yes he has trade value. The long answer is he would most certainly have to restructure and forego his injury guarantee, and the Giants would have to eat all but the minimum of his 2024 salary. In a scenario like that he might fetch a conditional late round pick.

What possible trade value could he have? He was the very worst starting QB in 2023. Worse than Zach Wilson.

In comment 16486489 Darwinian said:

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The short answer is yes he has trade value. The long answer is he would most certainly have to restructure and forego his injury guarantee, and the Giants would have to eat all but the minimum of his 2024 salary. In a scenario like that he might fetch a conditional late round pick. What possible trade value could he have? He was the very worst starting QB in 2023. Worse than Zach Wilson.

It would be a massive cap hit if we traded him now, the same as if we cut him.

Look at what the Bears got for a much cheaper Justin Fields.

Now add a big contract to that and massive injury concerns + the fact that everyone and their brother knows he's going to get cut.

the players on their team that they don't want anymore because their contract is much higher than their production have some level of trade value. Why that is, I don't know.

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can try but I doubt teams are interested in that contract with the injury clause. I think Jones will prefer to just be cut and then he can choose his path.

He’s injured. You can’t trade a player on IR. Plus he would have to pass a physical with the new team. In addition he has an injury clause, if the Giants want to cut him they would have to come to an injury settlement. So then it’s really not a good idea to draft a QB with a trade up. You would be giving up picks and have DJs high salary this year and next. So the rookie savings is wasted.

Stay at 6 and either get a QB or WR. I prefer WR.

eat a bunch of salary. He’s coming off 2 significant injuries in an otherwise dreadful year, AND he has an injury guarantee. What team is going to give up an asset for him knowing if he gets hurt they’re on the hook? Even if he agreed to waive that guarantee, what would the return be?

Let’s say the Giants agreed to eat the rest of his guaranteed money (I’m not even sure they could do that), I don’t see any team giving up more than a 6th.

But it requires that poster Jack Stroud to become an NFL Owner or General Mgr of one of the 31 other teams.

If Jones passes a physical at the optimistic end of the recovery range, that's the end of July. Unless he agrees to not pursue any grievance (which would light the NFLPA on fire) -- that's the earliest he can be cut.

Getting cut benefits Jones because it frees him from the injury guarantee and it places 36M in his checking account.

It also makes him a free agent coming off a torn ACL, without access to an NFL medical or training staff, 5 weeks before the season begins.

A better alternative might be restructure his deal to remove the injury guarantee, rehab with the Giants with the understanding he won't be playing, but can showcase his recovery, and work towards finding a trade partner during the pre-season.

Any trade the Giants make they will eat all but the minimum of his salary, as they are in the hook for that if he's cut.

I'd love to see him dealt, especially if the Giants get picks in return.
I wish Schoen could make that happen.

Is the Giants. They have always been higher on him then everyone else

Even if there was a team out there that loved Jones, his entire signing bonus would get accelerated into our cap. It's massive a hit to take this year. We can't trade him until next year, for the same reason we can't cut him until next season.

Revisit this discussion next off-season.

And I'm not even joking. The Giants would have to add draft assets to get someone to take him.

once he passes his physical. Despite what some say, once a team in the playoff hunt has it's starting QB hurt, Jones will be a target.
But as of right now, no, nobody would want him as he would cost too much.

In comment 16486797 christian said:

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If Jones passes a physical at the optimistic end of the recovery range, that's the end of July. Unless he agrees to not pursue any grievance (which would light the NFLPA on fire) -- that's the earliest he can be cut. Getting cut benefits Jones because it frees him from the injury guarantee and it places 36M in his checking account. It also makes him a free agent coming off a torn ACL, without access to an NFL medical or training staff, 5 weeks before the season begins. A better alternative might be restructure his deal to remove the injury guarantee, rehab with the Giants with the understanding he won't be playing, but can showcase his recovery, and work towards finding a trade partner during the pre-season. Any trade the Giants make they will eat all but the minimum of his salary, as they are in the hook for that if he's cut.

I wonder if the niners would have interest as a backup to Purdy.