So many want the Giants to have a “conviction “ but if that conviction is for McCarthy they will be upset
If you are talking about my post, I would not be upset. I said it will take me longer to be on the same page as them with McCarthy. That doesn't mean I don't want them doing it if they believe the kid can be special. I just don't hold that view right now.
So I don't know if he was reporting that's what he was hearing, or just speculation. But I figured it worth posting given it lines up with our asshats.
So I don't know if he was reporting that's what he was hearing, or just speculation. But I figured it worth posting given it lines up with our asshats.
Also the note was us with Maye and NE with JJ
This reeks of that 3-way trade deal posted by stars and stripes.
Raanan on the Michael Kay show just now said that he's hearing
So I don't know if he was reporting that's what he was hearing, or just speculation. But I figured it worth posting given it lines up with our asshats.
Also the note was us with Maye and NE with JJ
This reeks of that 3-way trade deal posted by stars and stripes.
The ultimate asshat hit coming from a guy getting hammered at some party would be fucking awesome
But Boston sports radio has at least one person now saying NE to trade down to 6 and then back up to 4.
Interesting, if Schoen gives up a king's ransom while providing them with the deal with AZ to get JJM knowing they wanted JJM I'm going to be a bit disappointed. I'm hoping this means he negotiated this all very wisely by first establishing a deal with AZ to get JJM at 4 then passing that deal along to NE so it's essentially a 3 team trade and he can get it done for traditional trade chart value which would be pick 6, 70, 107 and 2035 2nd. That would be winning.
Yes he did. And that's what I was told some time ago.
GoDeep thinks the deal is about done, but he threw McCarthy's name in there.
meaning it's a possibility that McCarthy is the pick at #3?
Confirmation Eric.
GoDeep13 : 3:25 pm : link : reply
It seems inevitable now that the Giants will be on the board @3. My source contends though that the Giants still really like McCarthy.
RE: Raanan on the Michael Kay show just now said that he's hearing
I can ultimately get my head around it because I love the player. But that is a vicious price to pay for a guy who had a very disappointing year in 2023.
If this is for McCarthy, the next five years will make the DJ Era seem like a paradise in the Alps. It will easily go down as the worst draft day decision in Giants history, and that is saying a lot given the ignominious track record of this franchise on draft day.
I still say the best thing for this team is to stay pat and let the draft come to us. We are at ground zero of the "Post DJ Era" rebuild. Giving up so many assets for a low floor high ceiling guy is a massive bet on a kid who will be anointed instantly as the savior of this franchise. Heavy shall be the head of Mr. Maye....
I will never root against the Giants during the game, but that "win" is going to hurt.
What hurt was failing to trade Barkley for a medium Pepsi to the Ravens or Texans before the deadline. The near wins and near losses canceled out. The failure to trade Barkley was plain dumb.
I can ultimately get my head around it because I love the player. But that is a vicious price to pay for a guy who had a very disappointing year in 2023.
If this is for McCarthy, the next five years will make the DJ Era seem like a paradise in the Alps. It will easily go down as the worst draft day decision in Giants history, and that is saying a lot given the ignominious track record of this franchise on draft day.
I still say the best thing for this team is to stay pat and let the draft come to us. We are at ground zero of the "Post DJ Era" rebuild. Giving up so many assets for a low floor high ceiling guy is a massive bet on a kid who will be anointed instantly as the savior of this franchise. Heavy shall be the head of Mr. Maye....
If you prefer staying put and you hate JJ, then you're basically saying you'd like more DJ.
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If NE wants JJM and we have a deal in place to get from 6 to 4 which we could pass along to NE in the trade from 6 to 3, then we aren't competing with Minnesota and it would be stupid to cave to NE's demands. Make them trade with Minnesota or take JJM at 3 then.
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If NE wants JJM and we have a deal in place to get from 6 to 4 which we could pass along to NE in the trade from 6 to 3, then we aren't competing with Minnesota and it would be stupid to cave to NE's demands. Make them trade with Minnesota or take JJM at 3 then.
I think Arizona is taking Harrison. Rumor is they gave him a promise if he's on the board at 4 which would align with how he's handled the pre-draft process.
They will get a bigger haul, but they will need to use more resources to get back up to #4 for a QB, or not get one of the top 4 QBs at all.
Going from #6 to #4 is a lot easier than #11 to #4.
I don't know about a bigger haul. I'd imagine Minnesota's best offer is their 2 1sts this year and 1st next year. If Raanan's price is accurate, the Giants offer has slightly more value
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
#6, #47, and our #1 next year is what a lot of us thought would be the minimum to get this done. Way too much for Maye IMO. But NE is even dumber for not insisting on a lot more.
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I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If NE wants JJM and we have a deal in place to get from 6 to 4 which we could pass along to NE in the trade from 6 to 3, then we aren't competing with Minnesota and it would be stupid to cave to NE's demands. Make them trade with Minnesota or take JJM at 3 then.
I think Arizona is taking Harrison. Rumor is they gave him a promise if he's on the board at 4 which would align with how he's handled the pre-draft process.
I've seen that said, but no link or anything. Any idea? Why would Rico say we had a deal in place with AZ if they are guaranteeing MHJ? Also, if they trade down and MHJ isn't on the board then that technically doesn't break their promise lol
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But Boston sports radio has at least one person now saying NE to trade down to 6 and then back up to 4.
If you are talking about my post, I would not be upset. I said it will take me longer to be on the same page as them with McCarthy. That doesn't mean I don't want them doing it if they believe the kid can be special. I just don't hold that view right now.
Also the note was us with Maye and NE with JJ
Me, but idk if I could hold out to Saturday in the old format at this point.
LOL!!!
Also the note was us with Maye and NE with JJ
This reeks of that 3-way trade deal posted by stars and stripes.
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So I don't know if he was reporting that's what he was hearing, or just speculation. But I figured it worth posting given it lines up with our asshats.
Also the note was us with Maye and NE with JJ
This reeks of that 3-way trade deal posted by stars and stripes.
The ultimate asshat hit coming from a guy getting hammered at some party would be fucking awesome
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reading what "BleedBlue46" wrote and going back through my messages, I would not completely discount the possibility of McCarthy at #3.
The assumption was it was for Maye. But that was an assumption based on earlier information.
Imagine if the Pats get a haul from us and then take Maye at 6
Or trade down with the Vikings for a bigger haul.
And everything they get, if it happens, is all because their shitty kicker missed a 27 yard FG against us...
GoDeep thinks the deal is about done, but he threw McCarthy's name in there.
meaning it's a possibility that McCarthy is the pick at #3?
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Interesting, if Schoen gives up a king's ransom while providing them with the deal with AZ to get JJM knowing they wanted JJM I'm going to be a bit disappointed. I'm hoping this means he negotiated this all very wisely by first establishing a deal with AZ to get JJM at 4 then passing that deal along to NE so it's essentially a 3 team trade and he can get it done for traditional trade chart value which would be pick 6, 70, 107 and 2035 2nd. That would be winning.
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Yes he did. And that's what I was told some time ago.
GoDeep thinks the deal is about done, but he threw McCarthy's name in there.
meaning it's a possibility that McCarthy is the pick at #3?
Confirmation Eric.
GoDeep13 : 3:25 pm : link : reply
It seems inevitable now that the Giants will be on the board @3. My source contends though that the Giants still really like McCarthy.
If Maye is a franchise QB, this price is cheap. Take your shot Schoen.
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…I guess I hope Schoen and Daboll do.
Not those of us on the west coast 😊
Although I’m not doing shit now other than wearing out the refresh button…
GoDeep thinks the deal is about done, but he threw McCarthy's name in there.
My buddy who works for an NFL team said he heard it's Maye & it's been Maye the entire time.
I mean, trolling the Vikings would be worth it alone
…I guess I hope Schoen and Daboll do.
Exactly how I feel.
They know more football than I do.......just hope they are right.
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it'll take 6, 47 and our 2025 1st to get to 3
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If this is for McCarthy, the next five years will make the DJ Era seem like a paradise in the Alps. It will easily go down as the worst draft day decision in Giants history, and that is saying a lot given the ignominious track record of this franchise on draft day.
I still say the best thing for this team is to stay pat and let the draft come to us. We are at ground zero of the "Post DJ Era" rebuild. Giving up so many assets for a low floor high ceiling guy is a massive bet on a kid who will be anointed instantly as the savior of this franchise. Heavy shall be the head of Mr. Maye....
That is a UNC Chapel Hill fit.
Okay, he needs to be docked a few dollars from the kangaroo court on that one.
What hurt was failing to trade Barkley for a medium Pepsi to the Ravens or Texans before the deadline. The near wins and near losses canceled out. The failure to trade Barkley was plain dumb.
If this is for McCarthy, the next five years will make the DJ Era seem like a paradise in the Alps. It will easily go down as the worst draft day decision in Giants history, and that is saying a lot given the ignominious track record of this franchise on draft day.
I still say the best thing for this team is to stay pat and let the draft come to us. We are at ground zero of the "Post DJ Era" rebuild. Giving up so many assets for a low floor high ceiling guy is a massive bet on a kid who will be anointed instantly as the savior of this franchise. Heavy shall be the head of Mr. Maye....
If you prefer staying put and you hate JJ, then you're basically saying you'd like more DJ.
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Yep
That is a UNC Chapel Hill fit.
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Yes he did. And that's what I was told some time ago.
GoDeep thinks the deal is about done, but he threw McCarthy's name in there.
My buddy who works for an NFL team said he heard it's Maye & it's been Maye the entire time.
Like I've been saying, I've heard it was Maye since February/March. That's colored my take on the we're moving to #3.
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it'll take 6, 47 and our 2025 1st to get to 3
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If NE wants JJM and we have a deal in place to get from 6 to 4 which we could pass along to NE in the trade from 6 to 3, then we aren't competing with Minnesota and it would be stupid to cave to NE's demands. Make them trade with Minnesota or take JJM at 3 then.
Going from #6 to #4 is a lot easier than #11 to #4.
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it'll take 6, 47 and our 2025 1st to get to 3
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If NE wants JJM and we have a deal in place to get from 6 to 4 which we could pass along to NE in the trade from 6 to 3, then we aren't competing with Minnesota and it would be stupid to cave to NE's demands. Make them trade with Minnesota or take JJM at 3 then.
I think Arizona is taking Harrison. Rumor is they gave him a promise if he's on the board at 4 which would align with how he's handled the pre-draft process.
Going from #6 to #4 is a lot easier than #11 to #4.
I don't know about a bigger haul. I'd imagine Minnesota's best offer is their 2 1sts this year and 1st next year. If Raanan's price is accurate, the Giants offer has slightly more value
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Yes he did. And that's what I was told some time ago.
GoDeep thinks the deal is about done, but he threw McCarthy's name in there.
My buddy who works for an NFL team said he heard it's Maye & it's been Maye the entire time.
Yep. We can only hope (I speak only for myself).
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it'll take 6, 47 and our 2025 1st to get to 3
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
#6, #47, and our #1 next year is what a lot of us thought would be the minimum to get this done. Way too much for Maye IMO. But NE is even dumber for not insisting on a lot more.
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it'll take 6, 47 and our 2025 1st to get to 3
I'd prefer to keep #47 and give up #70 and another pick next year, but if this is the price to get the guy at #3, do it.
Me too but if Minnesota is offering their 2 1sts and a 1st next year I suppose this is what it'll take to top that
If NE wants JJM and we have a deal in place to get from 6 to 4 which we could pass along to NE in the trade from 6 to 3, then we aren't competing with Minnesota and it would be stupid to cave to NE's demands. Make them trade with Minnesota or take JJM at 3 then.
I think Arizona is taking Harrison. Rumor is they gave him a promise if he's on the board at 4 which would align with how he's handled the pre-draft process.
I've seen that said, but no link or anything. Any idea? Why would Rico say we had a deal in place with AZ if they are guaranteeing MHJ? Also, if they trade down and MHJ isn't on the board then that technically doesn't break their promise lol
Going from #6 to #4 is a lot easier than #11 to #4.
If they go to #11, they're likely not going to try and get back up to #4. They will likely draft Nix instead.
They don't know their ass from a hat... that WR ship has sailed.
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Still heavily favor giants first pick at WR
They don't know their ass from a hat... that WR ship has sailed.
If I could bet in my state I would've already.