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widmerseyebrow : 4/25/2024 4:25 pm
I've been keeping notes in my BBI profile, but I think I'm done at this point. Feel free to post corrections/additions.

If I'm not too lazy after the draft, I might do a post-draft scorecard. Although you can see the asshat reports have started to merge as we inch closer to the draft. I really should have dated the notes but oh well. Profile links included so you can see the latest activity.


Here it is:


GoDeep13:

  • NYG will move up to #3
  • NYG loves JJM
  • NYG willing to trade up, but will not surrender 2025 1st. They really want to keep #47. They would part with #70 and a day 2 pick in 2025 or player.
  • NYG wants to trade down for CB Mitchell or DT Newtown/Murphy if JJM, Nabers, and MHJ are gone at #6
  • NYG Daboll loves Nabers, will take Nabers at #6
  • NYG would pass on Maye at #6, use him as trade down bait
  • NYG would look to trade down if Odunze is there at #6
  • NYG will not trade up from #47 to take Nix, but might for Penix if they go WR at #6.
  • NYG will get a QB in the first round or not at all
  • NYG will trade for a veteran WR if they get a QB in the draft
  • NYG likes Ladd McConkey
  • CHI takes Williams at #1, WAS takes Daniels at #2
  • Pats like Williams, Daniels, Penix, Nix in that order
  • MIN wants to trade with NE at #3 to take JJM over Maye
  • NE prefers MIN picks over NYG picks in a trade
  • MIN likes Maye, just not as much as JJM
  • LAC wants Joe Alt or JC Latham in a slight trade back


Rico:

  • NYG Maye at #3
  • NYG has a deal in place with ARI to move to #4
  • NYG originally believed to be going for Maye or Daniels, but JJM is now a possibility
  • NYG is NOT sticking with Jones and trading back to fill more roster holes


hitdog42:




GiantGrit:

  • NYG wants Maye if he gets to #3
  • NYG wants Odunze, not JJ at #6
  • NYG leaning Odunze over Nabers at #6


Peppers:

  • NYG JJM is "a real wild card"


Rickey213 (new but proven hits):

  • NYG is moving up to take a QB
  • WAS takes Daniels at #2
  • NYG talked to SF about Aiyuk
  • NE 100% takes Maye or JJM, will only trade down if they can be assured of still getting one or the other.
  • NE will either take JJM or trade down


Woodstock (new):

  • NYG wants Maye, do not want JJM


Sky King (new) https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=5&handle=Sky+King:

  • MIN all in on Maye
  • MIN fallback is Penix, not JJM
  • NYG views Nabers as a potential problem personality ala OBJ


Stars_and_stripes (new):

  • NYG and MIN prefer Maye
  • NE prefers JJM, lukewarm on Maye
  • NYG and MIN both trying to trade up with NE at #3, NYG has the upper hand (see below)
  • ARI will be involved somehow in the trade to ensure NE can land JJM after trade down. ARI targeting a receiver.
  • NYG surprise player may be included in the three way trade somehow.
  • Burns trade was consummated knowing NE's needs in a trade up scenario
  • NYG likes JJM too and would move up to #4 if Maye goes #3.


Giants1986 (new):

  • NYG Daboll prefers Penix
I fucking love this site  
TommytheElephant : 4/25/2024 4:32 pm : link
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RE: I fucking love this site  
solarmike : 4/25/2024 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16486955 TommytheElephant said:
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Agreed!
So Woodstock and 1986  
Jaenyg : 4/25/2024 4:36 pm : link
Have no actual hits yet?
I think the only guarantee we have right now is that we will draft a  
GiantBlue : 4/25/2024 4:36 pm : link
human man tonight...................

Someone will be a Giant tonight that wasn't a Giant before.
I'm hoping hitdog checks in  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2024 4:37 pm : link
his information is pretty accurate.
RE: I'm hoping hitdog checks in  
John in NC : 4/25/2024 4:41 pm : link
In comment 16486966 GFAN52 said:
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his information is pretty accurate.


I think he announced that he retired from asshattery a few years ago — that it was too much work — but he was awesome.
Thanks, widmerseyebrow...  
KingBlue : 4/25/2024 4:41 pm : link
Nice work!! Kind of all over the place... but we devour every asshat nugget we are fed.

Gotta love BBI!!!
kudos to  
NYGiantFL007 : 4/25/2024 4:43 pm : link
you sir!
I'm pretty confident  
WeekendLife56 : 4/25/2024 4:47 pm : link
.....one of the said bulletpoints is in fact going to happen.
RE: So Woodstock and 1986  
widmerseyebrow : 4/25/2024 4:48 pm : link
In comment 16486963 Jaenyg said:
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Have no actual hits yet?


By "new" I just mean new this year, or at least to me. Some of them line up pretty well to what we're hearing from the proven guys, but I'm just waiting until the draft is over.

The Giants1986 one I'm actually not even sure if he's an asshat or just talking. He said it matter-of-factly and did not elaborate.
Thanks widmer's eyebrow  
Optimus-NY : 4/25/2024 4:53 pm : link
I saw that on your profile when you mentioned it the other day Brilliant idea! Thanks for compiling this info btw!

Love your handle too, lol. I do remember Widmer's unibrow!
Well, NE and NYG ...  
BronxBob : 4/25/2024 4:54 pm : link
... have done a pretty good job of concealing what they actually most want to do while making it clear they might be prepared to do any of several things (the latter just amounting to doing their job, of course).
Nicely done  
JerseyCityJoe : 4/25/2024 5:43 pm : link
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Great thread  
uncledave : 4/25/2024 5:48 pm : link
Thanks for the hard work! Hope you do this annually
Thanks OP  
HomerJones45 : 4/25/2024 6:56 pm : link
and a special thanks to all our "field operatives" who add too much value to be called asshats, as time honored a moniker as it is around here ;0)
To all asshats  
SleepyOwl : 4/25/2024 7:28 pm : link
Work done is work done. Surviving opinions from idiots is never comforting; however surviving opinions from wisemen is trippy. Keep on prophetically estimating because when you’re right we all call coincidence but those that know; know.
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Named Later : 4/25/2024 7:44 pm : link
Very nicely done Widmer !!

I'm looking forward to the After Action Report tomorrow.
If Maye gets picked,  
Rico : 4/25/2024 7:45 pm : link
we probably won't trade up.
RE: If Maye gets picked,  
BleedBlue46 : 4/25/2024 7:48 pm : link
In comment 16487601 Rico said:
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we probably won't trade up.


Deal with NE at 3 off then? Good. Call their bluff if they aren't being reasonable.
RE: If Maye gets picked,  
Roto_Wizard : 4/25/2024 7:51 pm : link
In comment 16487601 Rico said:
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we probably won't trade up.


I thought we had a deal in place for #3? Or did that now completely fall through?
RE: RE: If Maye gets picked,  
BleedBlue46 : 4/25/2024 8:04 pm : link
In comment 16487629 Roto_Wizard said:
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In comment 16487601 Rico said:


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we probably won't trade up.



I thought we had a deal in place for #3? Or did that now completely fall through?


Either NE got cold feet about missing out on a QB or they are upset with getting much less than they were hoping and playing up their hand until the last minute..imp
Deconstruction  
Rico : 4/25/2024 9:34 pm : link
We clearly wanted Maye. JJ was a smokescreen. Not sure how the deal with NE was on and then off again, but once they took Maye, there was no reason to trade up with AZ.

This is consistent with Schoen's history of targeting specific players and not position groups.

The big winner is Daniel Jones!
RE: Deconstruction  
GFAN52 : 4/25/2024 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16488643 Rico said:
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We clearly wanted Maye. JJ was a smokescreen. Not sure how the deal with NE was on and then off again, but once they took Maye, there was no reason to trade up with AZ.

This is consistent with Schoen's history of targeting specific players and not position groups.

The big winner is Daniel Jones!


Appreciate the info even if it didn't pan out.
Or is the big winner Drew Lock?  
arniefez : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link
this will probably be his last shot at being a starter once Jones gets hurt or is benched so he doesn't get hurt.

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Named Later : 4/26/2024 9:50 am : link
A quick scan of the asshat predictions shows that only GoDeep had Nabers on his list. But he predicted about 20 things.

Every other 'hat' was a big swing and a miss.

If you're going to predict the future.....do it often.
I, for one, am happy to see  
jhibb : 4/26/2024 10:27 am : link
such a crazy low hit rate here.

Not because I didn't like the idea of some of those things happening, but because I don't like the idea of accurate inside information about the Giants preferences and plans being known before the draft.
RE: ..  
jhibb : 4/26/2024 10:31 am : link
In comment 16490822 Named Later said:
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A quick scan of the asshat predictions shows that only GoDeep had Nabers on his list. But he predicted about 20 things.

Every other 'hat' was a big swing and a miss.

If you're going to predict the future.....do it often.


Yup. And if you're more interested in getting some right than risking going for 100%, then make sure some of your predictions directly contradict some of your others. :-)
RE: RE: RE: If Maye gets picked,  
BleedBlue46 : 4/26/2024 11:33 am : link
In comment 16487696 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16487629 Roto_Wizard said:


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In comment 16487601 Rico said:


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we probably won't trade up.



I thought we had a deal in place for #3? Or did that now completely fall through?



Either NE got cold feet about missing out on a QB or they are upset with getting much less than they were hoping and playing up their hand until the last minute..imp


Or Kraft overrode the trade perhaps fearing he would miss out on JJM with the smoke from Minnesota and Denver?
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