Yes. Take ANY quarterback. In fact, teams that don’t have their “qb of the future” on their roster in any given season shouldn’t even be allowed to play. What’s the point in even having a football team if you have not identified your “qb of the future.” It’s all that matters. The other 52 guys on the roster are simply window dressing. The good news is the “qb of the future” can be literally any qb you draft who has not stepped on the field yet. He’s a mystery box. Why take cold hard cash when you can have a chance at the mystery box? That’s what the giants front office didn’t understand when they made this terrible pick of the best athlete in the draft.
if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
c'mon dude .... I know it is hard to communicate humor and
satire and sarcasm with just text but, the whole post was tongue in cheek. Even if he ends up being a great college QB - the chances of the Giants getting him are probably near zero. Things just don't work out that way.
I don't care. Not funny.
lol ... "not Funny" You are killing me.
Are you the humor/sarcasm police for BBI? Should run everything by you before we post?
How funny it was is not the point. The post was not to be taken serious. I thought people would get that with the Yaahoo and the lol.
post your email and I will submit any future posts to you before I post them to BBI.
RE: I think if Alt had been on the board, Giants would have taken him
If it's an average year there are maybe 2 QBs at the top. Say we're at pick 9. Lots of teams need QBs. We're desperate and trading 3 FRPs to get in there if anyone is willing to deal?
Who we trading up for? Fucking Carson Beck? Riley Leonard? This is what I mean about Schoen/Daboll being QB starved in 2025. They can seriously fuck this thing bad. I’d rather both be fired.
Beck and Leonard are already much more highly rated than Daniels was last spring.
It's funny to me that people who bitch that they reached for Jones are now pissed they didn't reach for a QB that has a windup that at times looks like a baseball pitcher.
Maybe McCarthy ends up being good, but I'll wager right now that Nabers ends up a much better WR than McCarthy is as a QB. But people keep saying McCarthy's a winner. Well, so was Geno Torretta. So was Johnny Manziel. Kellen Moore was 50-3.
You qb or bust guys should try crying harder. Nabers is an absolute beast and at least half of these qbs who were just drafted are gonna be in the xfl before too long.
“Nabers is an electric playmaker and arguably this class’ most dangerous ball carrier in space. An incredibly smooth and explosive athlete with great ball skills, Nabers was an instant contributor in the SEC for LSU and made 161 catches (playing with Jayden Daniels) the last two seasons. There were some scouts who had Nabers ranked ahead of Harrison — he’s that good.”
“The Giants have questions about Daniel Jones, to be sure. But they still have so much work to do that bringing a first-round QB in to compete for the job wouldn’t have made much sense. Nabers is an awesome talent and will instantly make one of the slowest offenses faster. This is a sensible, efficient and potentially explosive draft pick.”
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
Giants clearly tried to trade up for Maye who was the QB they loved. Not sure what else you guys want. They ain’t have conviction on McCarthy being worth that pick at 6. I imagine Minnesota might have offered a trade up but maybe not, they might have thought Giants would take receiver regardless.
The 'guy who developed Josh Allen' didn't believe the QB was worth taking.
If you believe he's a good QB coach you should trust he knows whether a QB can be good.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
You qb or bust guys should try crying harder. Nabers is an absolute beast and at least half of these qbs who were just drafted are gonna be in the xfl before too long.
This.
The QB or bust crowd are 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The thing is, we have other draft picks in this draft. If it's "any QB will do, just draft one", then maybe we get our guy in the 2nd or 3rd round and he'll have Nabers to throw to.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
The Panthers are almost assuredly picking #1 overall next year.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Don't be so sure. Carson Beck has the prototype franchise QB body, over 72% passing, 24-6 TD-INT, just shy of 4000 yards passing.
Let's see how it plays out, if they are picking 1.1, then you only need one stud QB prospect in the class.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
You qb or bust guys should try crying harder. Nabers is an absolute beast and at least half of these qbs who were just drafted are gonna be in the xfl before too long.
This.
The QB or bust crowd are 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Odell and Saquon were beasts too. Who cares? Maybe we can waste this guy’s prime years too and complete the trifecta.
You can’t pick a qb without the resources to make him successful. Nabers is special. We will see if Jones or Lock have what it takes to run this offense with him. We will also see if the line has been fixed. If not, we still have our picks. Great pick!
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
I'll rely on the professionals to decide whether there are QBs worth drafting next year.
and the offense had 50% more effect on a game than defense.
If they had taken that pass rushing DT that Eric spoke highly of, then four legit pass rushers and three if they rotate. Plus Simmons could sneak up and have a free run at the quarterback a couple of times a game.
That would have given me something to look forward to.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
I'll rely on the professionals to decide whether there are QBs worth drafting next year.
But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
I'll rely on the professionals to decide whether there are QBs worth drafting next year.
Many have already said it’ll be a down year.
And those same many has Daniels nowhere near the top two at this time last year.
...won't be on the roster next year. Thankfully. But anyone furious about this pick because of its relationship to Jones shouldn't be trusted to plan Monday's sales dept lunch.
This coach has had a QB take him to the playoffs with absolute trash at WR and then get hurt after 5 games. This with the worst OL in the NFL while he was the QB
Maybe said coach believes in QB with a better cast around him. If OL just plays avg Jones can get the ball to Nabers
There is a WR defenses will have to respect - DCs don’t care about Slayton or Hyatt and despite the promise of Wandale he is not threatening people all over the field - Nabers does that
This coach has had a QB take him to the playoffs with absolute trash at WR and then get hurt after 5 games. This with the worst OL in the NFL while he was the QB
Maybe said coach believes in QB with a better cast around him. If OL just plays avg Jones can get the ball to Nabers
There is a WR defenses will have to respect - DCs don’t care about Slayton or Hyatt and despite the promise of Wandale he is not threatening people all over the field - Nabers does that
The good teams will rarely respect them because the QB you are so desperatley trying to put on a pedestal is no longer the QB he was.
Clearly the Giants didn’t like McCarthy. Some people had Nabers #1 overall.
McCarthy was the 5th QB taken and not many thought Penix was even a thought.
Don’t reach for players, this was a great pick.
The Pats probably wanted way more than the Giants were willing to pay.
Think of the speed & quickness we have at WR now, it’s crazy.
How do they get the ball? I’ve asked this at least 3 times on this thread and have not received a response.
Improved OL, Better WRs by getting a #1 and moving everyone down one slot where they belong. People talk like DJ can’t throw, he can if he has time and not laying on his back within 2 seconds. He is not a top 5 QB and if he’s as bad as you think the Giants will have the opportunity to take a QB next year and get rid of his contract.
Obviously the Giants feel that DJ and Nabers was better than picking the 4th QB. The team is better than it was and hour ago. When you get a chance to take an elite talent you take him. If you can’t be happy about getting a top talent I’m sorry for you. It’s not like they drafted Thomas Lewis.
Trading up to 3 was not an option.
TThe problem is Rudy is that your post mirrors Mara year-over-year-over-year. All the while you remain oblivious that QB is very important. If you really feel the QB is so important than how can you give Jones any type of conviction a fan?
I understand if they don't have conviction - they can't take him. But your homerism for Jones is just like Mara-- your post is embarrassment.
I will say - which you may agree- they aren't doomed for the future yet- if they could finally hit on some draft picks coming up and hit on the FA OL with guys like Neal and JMS coming through.
But your point about Jones is s off-base. So -- 1.) Ignore that he has not really shown to be a good passing QB.2.) Ignore how what we heard is probably true with his throwing motion. 3.) Ignore That his legs which was a huge part of his game is probably seriously diminished. 4.) Ignore that he has been injury prone.
With all of this combined - how can you believe in Jones if you are to be fair?
This coach has had a QB take him to the playoffs with absolute trash at WR and then get hurt after 5 games. This with the worst OL in the NFL while he was the QB
Maybe said coach believes in QB with a better cast around him. If OL just plays avg Jones can get the ball to Nabers
There is a WR defenses will have to respect - DCs don’t care about Slayton or Hyatt and despite the promise of Wandale he is not threatening people all over the field - Nabers does that
Would you afgree then - that if said coach believes as you say - and it winds up either Jones gets hurt yet again or is trash regardless- then that said coach is a probable moron because even many non-expert fans could see what he was too blind to see?
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Malik Nabers will be going to the New York Giants..
"There's so much to like about Nabers and he's very very tough to cover" ~ Bill Belichick https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1783661708302561443 - ( New Window )
Probably looking forward to coaching him next year.
Pat McAfee
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Malik Nabers will be going to the New York Giants..
"There's so much to like about Nabers and he's very very tough to cover" ~ Bill Belichick https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1783661708302561443 - ( New Window )
Probably looking forward to coaching him next year.
🤞
I'm ready for a new approach.
RE: You're a defensive coordinator facing the Giants.
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Guru who developed Josh Allen wanted the WR.
They made their own bed.
And what would you suggest they do?
Draft a QB they don’t have conviction on?
Yes. Take ANY quarterback. In fact, teams that don’t have their “qb of the future” on their roster in any given season shouldn’t even be allowed to play. What’s the point in even having a football team if you have not identified your “qb of the future.” It’s all that matters. The other 52 guys on the roster are simply window dressing. The good news is the “qb of the future” can be literally any qb you draft who has not stepped on the field yet. He’s a mystery box. Why take cold hard cash when you can have a chance at the mystery box? That’s what the giants front office didn’t understand when they made this terrible pick of the best athlete in the draft.
1. The leaks out kc NYG central have stopprd.
2. Schoen doesnf cave to fan oressure
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In comment 16488719 short lease said:
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if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
c'mon dude .... I know it is hard to communicate humor and
satire and sarcasm with just text but, the whole post was tongue in cheek. Even if he ends up being a great college QB - the chances of the Giants getting him are probably near zero. Things just don't work out that way.
I don't care. Not funny.
lol ... "not Funny" You are killing me.
Are you the humor/sarcasm police for BBI? Should run everything by you before we post?
How funny it was is not the point. The post was not to be taken serious. I thought people would get that with the Yaahoo and the lol.
post your email and I will submit any future posts to you before I post them to BBI.
The OL could give all the time in the world and it will still be sucko Jones or, even worse, Lock throwing to him
Gonna be great seeing Nabers cook the defense only for Jones to check down because he’s incapable of reading a defense
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If it's an average year there are maybe 2 QBs at the top. Say we're at pick 9. Lots of teams need QBs. We're desperate and trading 3 FRPs to get in there if anyone is willing to deal?
Who we trading up for? Fucking Carson Beck? Riley Leonard? This is what I mean about Schoen/Daboll being QB starved in 2025. They can seriously fuck this thing bad. I’d rather both be fired.
Beck and Leonard are already much more highly rated than Daniels was last spring.
It's funny to me that people who bitch that they reached for Jones are now pissed they didn't reach for a QB that has a windup that at times looks like a baseball pitcher.
Maybe McCarthy ends up being good, but I'll wager right now that Nabers ends up a much better WR than McCarthy is as a QB. But people keep saying McCarthy's a winner. Well, so was Geno Torretta. So was Johnny Manziel. Kellen Moore was 50-3.
This.
The QB or bust crowd are 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
“Nabers is an electric playmaker and arguably this class’ most dangerous ball carrier in space. An incredibly smooth and explosive athlete with great ball skills, Nabers was an instant contributor in the SEC for LSU and made 161 catches (playing with Jayden Daniels) the last two seasons. There were some scouts who had Nabers ranked ahead of Harrison — he’s that good.”
“The Giants have questions about Daniel Jones, to be sure. But they still have so much work to do that bringing a first-round QB in to compete for the job wouldn’t have made much sense. Nabers is an awesome talent and will instantly make one of the slowest offenses faster. This is a sensible, efficient and potentially explosive draft pick.”
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
They made their own bed.
The 'guy who developed Josh Allen' didn't believe the QB was worth taking.
If you believe he's a good QB coach you should trust he knows whether a QB can be good.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
I don't care. Not funny.
lol ... "not Funny" You are killing me.
Are you the humor/sarcasm police for BBI? Should run everything by you before we post?
How funny it was is not the point. The post was not to be taken serious. I thought people would get that with the Yaahoo and the lol.
post your email and I will submit any future posts to you before I post them to BBI.
Hey, keep digging...
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
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You qb or bust guys should try crying harder. Nabers is an absolute beast and at least half of these qbs who were just drafted are gonna be in the xfl before too long.
This.
The QB or bust crowd are 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The thing is, we have other draft picks in this draft. If it's "any QB will do, just draft one", then maybe we get our guy in the 2nd or 3rd round and he'll have Nabers to throw to.
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
The Panthers are almost assuredly picking #1 overall next year.
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Don't be so sure. Carson Beck has the prototype franchise QB body, over 72% passing, 24-6 TD-INT, just shy of 4000 yards passing.
Let's see how it plays out, if they are picking 1.1, then you only need one stud QB prospect in the class.
Time for Jones to deliver in his 6th attempt to be a franchise QB.
Expectations?
30+ TDs, 8+ YPA, 66% comp%, and 3,600+ passing yards.
At least...
This is fair...DJ needs to perform.
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
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You qb or bust guys should try crying harder. Nabers is an absolute beast and at least half of these qbs who were just drafted are gonna be in the xfl before too long.
This.
The QB or bust crowd are 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Odell and Saquon were beasts too. Who cares? Maybe we can waste this guy’s prime years too and complete the trifecta.
I liked Williams, Maye, and Nabers. I'm very happy with Nabers at 6.
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In comment 16489019 allstarjim said:
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
I'll rely on the professionals to decide whether there are QBs worth drafting next year.
If they had taken that pass rushing DT that Eric spoke highly of, then four legit pass rushers and three if they rotate. Plus Simmons could sneak up and have a free run at the quarterback a couple of times a game.
That would have given me something to look forward to.
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In comment 16489052 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16489019 allstarjim said:
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
I'll rely on the professionals to decide whether there are QBs worth drafting next year.
Many have already said it’ll be a down year.
They must not have had the conviction on JJ.
Gotta trust the process.
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In comment 16489052 The_Boss said:
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But I'm fine with the pick. This is going to be an exciting WR group.
I think this pick was about timing and economics. They are paying DJ this year. They will have some dead money on DJ after 2024 but it will be a lot better getting a rookie QB next year and have a lot of flexibility to build the team further around him.
I believe the Giants are going to lose a lot in 2024. But they will also have a tremendous base from which to get better quickly when they get their man at QB.
I say it every year, the draft is not about the immediate season. It's clear this is a build year. This is a plan that requires patience.
But in this division, you have Hurts, Dak, and now Jayden Daniels at QB. The Giants can legitimately go 0-6 in the division next year. And they can easily be drafting higher next year. And I won't be upset, either. Because if they have that guy slotted at their pick next year, the Giants will be viewed as a really great destination to turn things around quickly.
So if the theme is to build out this team for the future, 2nd round should be Trey Benson, a DT that drops, or CB. More likely one of the latter two positions.
The draft is fun. I'm going to be optimistic about the build, laying the foundation, and then go for broke on QB next season...hell, they could be picking first overall, while having an envious roster with just one major hole, albeit the most important one.
That’ll be so typical: the NYG earn the #1 pick in a year where the QB’s are substandard.
Sure. We know for a fact that the six bozos who were just drafted are all gonna be great and we also already know for a fact that there are no good quarterbacks available to be drafted next year. Makes sense.
If I’m wrong I’ll own up to it. There is not one QB projected to be draft eligible in 2025 that I want. Ewers, Leonard, Beck, Sanders, DJ, Dart, Ward, etc.
I'll rely on the professionals to decide whether there are QBs worth drafting next year.
Many have already said it’ll be a down year.
And those same many has Daniels nowhere near the top two at this time last year.
Irrelevant.
Look beyond the length of your nose.
Malik Nabors lost the trophy by one vote in 2923 (to Marvin Harrison). Two young studs that will torment the NFL for a long time.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/malik-nabers/32004e41-4240-0459-a77d-033b6932cbbb - ( New Window )
0 for 2.
Maybe said coach believes in QB with a better cast around him. If OL just plays avg Jones can get the ball to Nabers
There is a WR defenses will have to respect - DCs don’t care about Slayton or Hyatt and despite the promise of Wandale he is not threatening people all over the field - Nabers does that
Maybe said coach believes in QB with a better cast around him. If OL just plays avg Jones can get the ball to Nabers
There is a WR defenses will have to respect - DCs don’t care about Slayton or Hyatt and despite the promise of Wandale he is not threatening people all over the field - Nabers does that
The good teams will rarely respect them because the QB you are so desperatley trying to put on a pedestal is no longer the QB he was.
Without getting the QB-- it's a wasted year.
Thanks for the laugh.
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Clearly the Giants didn’t like McCarthy. Some people had Nabers #1 overall.
McCarthy was the 5th QB taken and not many thought Penix was even a thought.
Don’t reach for players, this was a great pick.
The Pats probably wanted way more than the Giants were willing to pay.
Think of the speed & quickness we have at WR now, it’s crazy.
How do they get the ball? I’ve asked this at least 3 times on this thread and have not received a response.
Improved OL, Better WRs by getting a #1 and moving everyone down one slot where they belong. People talk like DJ can’t throw, he can if he has time and not laying on his back within 2 seconds. He is not a top 5 QB and if he’s as bad as you think the Giants will have the opportunity to take a QB next year and get rid of his contract.
Obviously the Giants feel that DJ and Nabers was better than picking the 4th QB. The team is better than it was and hour ago. When you get a chance to take an elite talent you take him. If you can’t be happy about getting a top talent I’m sorry for you. It’s not like they drafted Thomas Lewis.
Trading up to 3 was not an option.
TThe problem is Rudy is that your post mirrors Mara year-over-year-over-year. All the while you remain oblivious that QB is very important. If you really feel the QB is so important than how can you give Jones any type of conviction a fan?
I understand if they don't have conviction - they can't take him. But your homerism for Jones is just like Mara-- your post is embarrassment.
I will say - which you may agree- they aren't doomed for the future yet- if they could finally hit on some draft picks coming up and hit on the FA OL with guys like Neal and JMS coming through.
But your point about Jones is s off-base. So -- 1.) Ignore that he has not really shown to be a good passing QB.2.) Ignore how what we heard is probably true with his throwing motion. 3.) Ignore That his legs which was a huge part of his game is probably seriously diminished. 4.) Ignore that he has been injury prone.
With all of this combined - how can you believe in Jones if you are to be fair?
Maybe said coach believes in QB with a better cast around him. If OL just plays avg Jones can get the ball to Nabers
There is a WR defenses will have to respect - DCs don’t care about Slayton or Hyatt and despite the promise of Wandale he is not threatening people all over the field - Nabers does that
Would you afgree then - that if said coach believes as you say - and it winds up either Jones gets hurt yet again or is trash regardless- then that said coach is a probable moron because even many non-expert fans could see what he was too blind to see?
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Malik Nabers will be going to the New York Giants..
"There's so much to like about Nabers and he's very very tough to cover" ~ Bill Belichick https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1783661708302561443 - ( New Window )
Probably looking forward to coaching him next year.
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Malik Nabers will be going to the New York Giants..
"There's so much to like about Nabers and he's very very tough to cover" ~ Bill Belichick https://x.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1783661708302561443 - ( New Window )
Probably looking forward to coaching him next year.
🤞
I'm ready for a new approach.
Simple, don't cover the hot read and Jones will dump off to him every time.
I imagine it will be fairly easy by NFL standards.