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Is Daniel Jones set up for success?

ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:07 pm
Finally rid of a bust RB who was always hurt

Finally has a #1 WR.

3rd year in a QB friendly system

Is this a make or break year for Danny?
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Define success  
The_Boss : 4/25/2024 10:08 pm : link
30 td’s? In one season?
Nobody has done  
McNally's_Nuts : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
less with more than Daniel Jones
This is it  
Giantsbigblue : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
He has the physical talent. Now it's time for him to put up or shut up and prove he isn't too beat up mentally.
...  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:10 pm : link
Only four QBs threw for 30+ tds last year. Its probably unfair to put that pressure on him.
Did I Miss Were He Got  
MojoEd : 4/25/2024 10:10 pm : link
a clean bill of health?
I think  
Woodstock : 4/25/2024 10:11 pm : link
Drew Lock starts
How we soon forget  
stoneman : 4/25/2024 10:11 pm : link
He did win a playoff game :) He does have his moments - good or bad.
Are we really doing this again?  
RDJR : 4/25/2024 10:11 pm : link
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Only if they’ve fixed the OL  
BillT : 4/25/2024 10:11 pm : link
They get no leeway. They’ve failed so far.
RE: ...  
Darwinian : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16489096 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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Only four QBs threw for 30+ tds last year. Its probably unfair to put that pressure on him.


You're right. Don't want to pressure our $100M QB too much. He should take his time.
RE: Are we really doing this again?  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16489105 RDJR said:
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Doing what? Hoping that our QB has success?
Coming off of the  
darren in pdx : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
leg injury we don't know if he can run like he used to, his only elite trait, and defenses already figured out how to defend that last season. Add on the neck injuries and he's a ticking time bomb with that injury settlement.
If it doesn't work out this year  
Jerry in_DC : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
The 2025 will really be his prove it year. Until...
Year 6 : make or break year for DJ  
ThomasG : 4/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
The question alone is disheartening.
RE: RE: ...  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16489114 Darwinian said:
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Only four QBs threw for 30+ tds last year. Its probably unfair to put that pressure on him.



You're right. Don't want to pressure our $100M QB too much. He should take his time.


$100 million is a bargain for a starting NFL QB. Don't let DJ Derangement syndrome cloud your assessment.
No we won't really be able to tell until we get a top RB,  
PatersonPlank : 4/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
a better #3 WR, a TE, and a swing tackle
RE: How we soon forget  
bwitz : 4/25/2024 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16489104 stoneman said:
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He did win a playoff game :) He does have his moments - good or bad.


And that majority of those moments are bad.

One irrelevant game won in the playoffs. Why people hold onto that like he won the Super Bowl all by himself, I’ll never get.
Jones  
TyreeHelmet : 4/25/2024 10:15 pm : link
You think losing Saquon will help Jones? Hmmm

In all my years following sports I have never seen a player treated like Jones has before. It boggles my mind. Strange phenomenon.
Set up for?  
CV36 : 4/25/2024 10:15 pm : link
Should be a better team. Will he succeed? No.
Daniel Jones is going to be successful  
Scooter185 : 4/25/2024 10:15 pm : link
At getting a 3rd HC and 2nd GM fired
He has a better supporting cast than previously, sure  
j_rud : 4/25/2024 10:16 pm : link
I dont think this means he's gonna see the end of his contract here, I think they still want to move on. We know they tried to trade up. But theyre not gonna make a move they dont believe in to move on from Jones this minute. Wish it worked out with Maye but I'm not gonna murder Schoen/Daboll for it.
Yes this is a make or break year  
Biteymax22 : 4/25/2024 10:16 pm : link
We tried to trade up to replace him already this year
It is fair to ask how long Schoen and Mara  
Mike from Ohio : 4/25/2024 10:16 pm : link
Will keep rolling Jones out there. It is fair to ask the question about whether or not they see what the rest of the world sees.

They may both believe he could still be a top QB in this league.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Darwinian : 4/25/2024 10:16 pm : link
In comment 16489140 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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Only four QBs threw for 30+ tds last year. Its probably unfair to put that pressure on him.



You're right. Don't want to pressure our $100M QB too much. He should take his time.



$100 million is a bargain for a starting NFL QB. Don't let DJ Derangement syndrome cloud your assessment.


He was the 32nd best starter in 2023. Worse than Zach Wilson. He's godawful. But for you he's a bargain at $100M. You must be Daniel's mom. I have bad news for you. Lock will beat him out
RE: Jones  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16489157 TyreeHelmet said:
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You think losing Saquon will help Jones? Hmmm

In all my years following sports I have never seen a player treated like Jones has before. It boggles my mind. Strange phenomenon.


Saquon was always hurt and let Jones down when it mattered most. He wasn't a winning player. He's Philly's problem now.
RE: Daniel Jones is going to be successful  
j_rud : 4/25/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16489161 Scooter185 said:
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At getting a 3rd HC and 2nd GM fired


I think if they felt Jones playing poorly this year would get them canned they'd have been a lot looser with that 2025 1st rounder.
Not yet  
rsjem1979 : 4/25/2024 10:17 pm : link
They need Mike Webster at center and Gene Upshaw at guard, and Mark Bavaro to come play tight end. Only then can we evaluate him.
Giants  
mdthedream : 4/25/2024 10:18 pm : link
have addressed the real issue the Offensive line. They gave up 85 sacks last year. We added a top WR and its not over yet we can add players still in free agency and the rest of the draft. I am glad we didn't give up this years picks and next years to move up.
RE: RE: Jones  
Darwinian : 4/25/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16489180 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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You think losing Saquon will help Jones? Hmmm

In all my years following sports I have never seen a player treated like Jones has before. It boggles my mind. Strange phenomenon.



Saquon was always hurt and let Jones down when it mattered most. He wasn't a winning player. He's Philly's problem now.


Up is down. Black is white.
RE: Define success  
steve in ky : 4/25/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16489074 The_Boss said:
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30 td’s? In one season?


I’d say lead them to a playoffs would matter more
RE: Jones  
j_rud : 4/25/2024 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16489157 TyreeHelmet said:
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You think losing Saquon will help Jones? Hmmm

In all my years following sports I have never seen a player treated like Jones has before. It boggles my mind. Strange phenomenon.


He says, unironically.
RE: RE: Daniel Jones is going to be successful  
Scooter185 : 4/25/2024 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16489182 j_rud said:
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At getting a 3rd HC and 2nd GM fired



I think if they felt Jones playing poorly this year would get them canned they'd have been a lot looser with that 2025 1st rounder.


Fan sentiment will turn fast when the seasons over by Halloween again, regardless of anything Mara has told them since the end of last season.

Ranaan said on TMKS "when fan sentiment turns coaches get fired"
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Mike from Ohio : 4/25/2024 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16489179 Darwinian said:
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Only four QBs threw for 30+ tds last year. Its probably unfair to put that pressure on him.



You're right. Don't want to pressure our $100M QB too much. He should take his time.



$100 million is a bargain for a starting NFL QB. Don't let DJ Derangement syndrome cloud your assessment.



He was the 32nd best starter in 2023. Worse than Zach Wilson. He's godawful. But for you he's a bargain at $100M. You must be Daniel's mom. I have bad news for you. Lock will beat him out


I don’t think there is an open contest. If Daniel can find the field and cross over the white lines, he will start. He is the Giants QB and it is his job until he doesn’t want it any longer.
Well most of these responses...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/25/2024 10:20 pm : link
... Put emotion in front of reflection, at the end of the day he has been a bad quarterback.

He is likely in a much better position this coming season but I would have preferred that the Giants selected JJ.
Unfortunately  
Jerry in_DC : 4/25/2024 10:21 pm : link
The title of this thread is also the mission statement of the New York Giants franchise
Until the OL has proven it is fixed ....  
short lease : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link

No QB will be very successful on this team (imo).
maybe this is laughable, but  
FranknWeezer : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link
we can only hope that all of this quarterback pursuit will light a big fire under his ass
RE: RE: Define success  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16489196 steve in ky said:
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30 td’s? In one season?



I’d say lead them to a playoffs would matter more


He's already done that so if that is the baseline, then he's already suceeded and also went above and beyond by actually winning a playoff game
RE: Unfortunately  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 4/25/2024 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16489223 Jerry in_DC said:
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The title of this thread is also the mission statement of the New York Giants franchise


Yeah because supporting your best player is somehow a bad thing
RE: I think  
4xchamps : 4/25/2024 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16489101 Woodstock said:
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Drew Lock starts


ZERO chance if DJ is healthy.
RE: RE: RE: Define success  
steve in ky : 4/25/2024 10:27 pm : link
In comment 16489249 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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30 td’s? In one season?



I’d say lead them to a playoffs would matter more



He's already done that so if that is the baseline, then he's already suceeded and also went above and beyond by actually winning a playoff game


So if the Giants go to the playoffs it wouldn’t be successful season?
DJ who?????  
OBJRoyal : 4/25/2024 10:27 pm : link
Hopefully this is for Lock
He is not as bad as people make him out to be  
NY-Fan : 4/25/2024 10:32 pm : link
His injuries are a concern and I was a bit shocked by how he started off last season. This could go many ways. He could possibly not be ready for the season due to injuries. He could start, but look as unproductive as last year. He could also look more like he did in 2022 and with an improved O-line and more weapons play better than expected. We just have to wait and see.
If the OL is improved yes  
Walker Gillette : 4/25/2024 10:32 pm : link
He'll have the best receiving group he's ever had and the most time to throw to them. No more Ezedu playing LT, Shane Lemieux at LG and a turn style Neal. Seemed easier for Tyrod and Cutlets when they had Thomas, Pugh and Phillips replacing those guys.
whether you like Barkley or notqYou lose any credibility calling him  
Matt M. : 4/25/2024 10:35 pm : link
a bust. He has been a top 5 RB when healthy.

I am certainly curious to see what Jones does...if he even starts the season. I don't have much faith in him, but he is being set up the way his supporters have been clamoring for. It's 100% on him.
Unless he has an incredible year as soon as he can be replaced  
Blue21 : 4/25/2024 10:38 pm : link
I believe he will be. And by that I mean by someone they feel is better and no longer than the end of this year.
RE: How we soon forget  
HardTruth : 4/25/2024 11:04 pm : link
In comment 16489104 stoneman said:
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He did win a playoff game :) He does have his moments - good or bad.


he does have his moment.
Wait, I thought losing Saquon to injury was a reason  
HardTruth : 4/25/2024 11:05 pm : link
Why he was bad this season? Now, he will be better without him?
It looks like Schoen...  
bw in dc : 4/25/2024 11:09 pm : link
has done even more this offseason not to screw up Daniel Jones's chance to be a great QB.
RE: It looks like Schoen...  
christian : 4/25/2024 11:11 pm : link
In comment 16489613 bw in dc said:
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has done even more this offseason not to screw up Daniel Jones's chance to be a great QB.


Watch that video of the press conference.

Schoen texted Jones before the pick was announced to let him know.
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