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Sy's Top Rated Players For Day 2

robbieballs2003 : 4/26/2024 12:09 am
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Gr Rk Pos Last First Ht Wt School
86 1 G/C Powers-Johnson Jackson 6’3" 328 Oregon
85 1 S DeJean Cooper 6’1" 203 Iowa
83 1 DT Orhorhoro Ruke 6’4" 294 Clemson
83 3 CB McKinstry Kool-Aid 5’11" 194 Alabama
82 1 RB Benson Trey 6’0" 216 Florida St.
82 5 WR McConkey Ladd 6’0" 186 Georgia
82 6 WR Mitchell Adonai 6’2" 205 Texas
82 2 DT Newton Jer’Zhan 6’3" 296 Illinois
82 5 CB Sainristil Mike 5’9" 182 Michigan
82 6 CB Melton Max 5’11" 187 Rutgers
82 2 S Bullard Javon 5’10" 198 Georgia
81 1 LB Cooper Edgerrin 6’2" 230 Texas A&M
81 3 S Nubin Tyler 6’1" 205 Minnesota
81 4 S Bishop Cole 6’2" 206 Utah
80 4 G/C Frazier Zach 6’3" 313 West Virginia
80 8 OT Suamataia Kingsley 6’5" 326 BYU
80 2 RB Brooks Jonathon 6’0" 216 Texas
80 9 WR Franklin Troy 6’2" 176 Oregon
80 5 Edge Trice Bralen 6’3" 245 Washington
80 2 LB Wilson Payton 6’4" 233 North Carolina St.
80 3 LB Colson Junior 6’2" 238 Michigan
80 7 CB Newton Josh 5’11" 190 TCU
79 5 G/C Haynes Christian 6’3" 317 Connecticut
79 6 G/C Nourzad Hunter 6’3" 317 Penn St.
79 2 TE Sinnott Ben 6’4" 250 Kansas St.
79 10 WR Wilson Roman 5’11" 185 Michigan
79 4 DT Fiske Braden 6’4" 292 Florida St.
79 5 DT Lovett Sr. Fabien 6’4" 314 Florida St.
79 8 CB Abrams-Draine Kris 5’11" 179 Missouri
79 9 CB Phillips Andru 5’11" 190 Kentucky
79 10 CB Pritchett Nehemiah 6’0" 190 Auburn
79 5 S Taylor-Demerson Dadrion 5’10" 197 Texas Tech
79 6 S Hampton Dominique 6’2" 213 Washington
78 7 G/C Limmer Beaux 6’5" 302 Arkansas
78 3 TE Sanders Ja’Tavion 6'4" 245 Texas
78 4 TE Johnson Theo 6’6" 259 Penn St.
78 11 WR Corley Malachi 5’11" 207 Western Kentucky
78 12 WR Coleman Keon 6’3" 213 Florida St.
78 13 WR Baker Javon 6’1" 202 Central Florida
78 7 Edge Braswell Chris 6’3" 259 Alabama
78 6 DT Hall Jr. Michael 6’3" 290 Ohio St.
78 7 DT Jenkins Kris 6’3" 299 Michigan
78 11 CB Hart Cam 6’3" 202 Notre Dame
78 7 S Hicks Jaden 6’2" 211 Washington St.
77 8 G/C Beebe Cooper 6’3" 322 Kansas St.
77 9 G/C Bortolini Tanor 6’4" 303 Wisconsin
77 10 G/C Robinson Layden 6’3" 302 Texas A&M
77 9 OT Paul Patrick 6’7" 331 Houston
77 10 OT Rosengarten Roger 6’5" 308 Washington
77 11 OT Amegadjie Kiran 6’5" 323 Yale
77 5 TE Wilson Johnny 6’6" 231 Florida St.
77 3 RB Corum Blake 5’8" 205 Michigan
77 4 RB Lloyd Marshawn 5’9" 220 USC
77 5 RB Davis Ray 5’8" 211 Kentucky
77 6 RB Irving Bucky 5’9" 192 Oregon
77 7 RB Estime Audric 5’11" 221 Notre Dame
77 8 RB Wright Jaylen 5’10" 210 Tennessee
77 14 WR Washington Malik 5’8" 191 Virginia
77 8 Edge Elliss Jonah 6’2" 248 Utah
77 9 Edge Kneeland Marshawn 6’3" 267 Western Michigan
77 12 CB Rakestraw Jr. Ennis 5’11" 183 Missouri
77 13 CB Tampa TJ 6’1" 194 Iowa St.
77 14 CB Brownlee Jr. Jarvis 5’10" 194 Louisville
77 15 CB Green Renardo 6’0" 186 Florida St.
77 8 S Bullock Calen 6’2" 188 USC


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RE: A shout out to Robbieballs2003  
KeoweeFan : 4/26/2024 9:20 am : link
In comment 16490054 Gregorio said:
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who painstakenly organizes Sy's data and presents it to us so well. It's another immense value of reading BBI every day. Thank you for all you do.

I'd be pleased to choose any of these O or D linemen at 47:

86 1 G/C Powers-Johnson Jackson 6’3" 328 Oregon
83 1 DT Orhorhoro Ruke 6’4" 294 Clemson
82 2 DT Newton Jer’Zhan 6’3" 296 Illinois
80 8 OT Suamataia Kingsley 6’5" 326 BYU
80 4 G/C Frazier Zach 6’3" 313 West Virginia
79 4 DT Fiske Braden 6’4" 292 Florida S


Yup, Ruke Orhorhoro would look pretty good next to Sexy Dex.
RE: there  
MNP70 : 4/26/2024 9:28 am : link
In comment 16489853 Eric from BBI said:
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are some really good players still there.


Christian Haynes OG from UCONN is still there. #1 rated guard that's still available. I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants trade up to get him.
A CB falling to 47  
Biteymax22 : 4/26/2024 9:42 am : link
would be great. After that I'm still seeing a lot of OL and DL I like.

I don't care that we signed 5 veteran OL, keep shoring up the trenches until we're pushing around Philly/Dallas and not vice versa.
CB - I would love Kool-aid if he lasts  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2024 9:43 am : link
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I'd love one of the DTs  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/26/2024 9:50 am : link
make a strength a strength. Let's see how Jayden Daniels looks behind a rebuilt bobby Johnson O line.
I think it's a bit of a knock  
Giantsfan79 : 4/26/2024 9:54 am : link
On the top secondary players that none of them are 6 feet tall. It would be nice to get a taller DB in the room for those bigger receivers. Could be a reason to look at another position here
RE: RE: Look at those WRs  
Everyone Relax : 4/26/2024 9:57 am : link
In comment 16490631 BlueHurricane said:
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And not a QB to be found



Talk to us 4 years when 4/5 of the 6 QB’s bust

There are 5+ WRs on a team and 1 QB. How strange there are more WRs in the draft
My hope for today  
GiantsFan84 : 4/26/2024 9:59 am : link
Edgerrin cooper and benson
RE: I'd love one of the DTs  
robbieballs2003 : 4/26/2024 10:00 am : link
In comment 16490824 Ned In Atlanta said:
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make a strength a strength. Let's see how Jayden Daniels looks behind a rebuilt bobby Johnson O line.


I'm not saying DT at all costs here but I agree wthat getting another presence on the interior DL could make our front 4/5 legit. I'm a big fan of Fiske but there are multiple DTs that could fit in this system.
I get we all use Sy's grades  
Everyone Relax : 4/26/2024 10:01 am : link
as the barometer, but how is Braden Fiske not one of the top choices here! He's the perfect DT for this team right now and adds another pass rusher up the middle.
RE: I get we all use Sy's grades  
robbieballs2003 : 4/26/2024 10:05 am : link
In comment 16490869 Everyone Relax said:
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as the barometer, but how is Braden Fiske not one of the top choices here! He's the perfect DT for this team right now and adds another pass rusher up the middle.


He is. Grades have many different components to them. Fiske is smaller with smaller arms that is a huge negative for a lot of teams. Still, I love him. But that is why his grade is lower but he still has a second round grade.
RE: RE: I get we all use Sy's grades  
Everyone Relax : 4/26/2024 10:12 am : link
In comment 16490877 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 16490869 Everyone Relax said:


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as the barometer, but how is Braden Fiske not one of the top choices here! He's the perfect DT for this team right now and adds another pass rusher up the middle.



He is. Grades have many different components to them. Fiske is smaller with smaller arms that is a huge negative for a lot of teams. Still, I love him. But that is why his grade is lower but he still has a second round grade.

I see we overlapped with our posts for him. A guy with his athleticism and his absolute love of football (and rave reviews as a teammate) make this a very desirable pick if hes there at 47
CB, S, DT, RB  
JonC : 4/26/2024 10:13 am : link
Grab two of them today.
RE: CB, S, DT, RB  
UberAlias : 4/26/2024 10:20 am : link
In comment 16490902 JonC said:
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Grab two of them today.


Two at those positions to go along with Nabers and Burns sounds good to me.
RE: RE: Would 47 and slayton  
EJNNJ : 4/26/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16490330 AcidTest said:
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Get us pick 33 from schoen's buddy Beane??



No way. But I am not adverse to shopping Slayton and/or Ojulari to try and move up.


I'd trade #47, Slayton and a '25(5th?) pick to LAC for #37 if Powers is there
Sure wish  
Joe Beckwith : 4/26/2024 10:30 am : link
we still had #37.
About 5 guys in the top 12 I’d like us to have, especially the CBs.
If  
Toth029 : 4/26/2024 10:34 am : link
There's any trade up, it is for Cooper Dejean. I feel like he'd thrive in Bowen's defense.
I'll go with WR Adonai Mitchell  
Marty in Albany : 4/26/2024 10:38 am : link
Adonai is Hebrew for "God" and clearly, the Giants need God's help this season.

I'm not big on DT Ruke Orhorhoro. His name sounds like somebody coughing up phlegm. At 294 pounds, that's a lot of phlegm.
It seems the value is there  
Danny Kanell : 4/26/2024 10:44 am : link
I would love another legitimate receiver.

Strengthen strengths, especially at premium positions.
 
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2024 10:50 am : link
Sy’s top 3 out of 4 DTs are still available. Would love that in round 2.
I'd love to get Melton and Benson or Wright today  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 10:52 am : link
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We have needs  
George : 4/26/2024 10:57 am : link
At every position on this list (aside maybe WR, but an argument can be made that we’re not done there yet either). I would be happy with basically any two of the people on this list, which just goes to show how crappy our roster is right now.
DeJean  
Mike in NJ : 4/26/2024 11:05 am : link
I wonder if most team's agree with Sy's assessment that DeJean projects more to safety rather than corner, and that could be why he dropped out of round 1.

If teams look at him as a safety, positional value probably says you wait until round 2 to grab him.
RE: I'll go with WR Adonai Mitchell  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/26/2024 11:06 am : link
In comment 16491001 Marty in Albany said:
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Adonai is Hebrew for "God" and clearly, the Giants need God's help this season.

I'm not big on DT Ruke Orhorhoro. His name sounds like somebody coughing up phlegm. At 294 pounds, that's a lot of phlegm.


You do realize for BBI thats actually a better reason that many give? Sy level IMO Bravo
RE: RE: I'll go with WR Adonai Mitchell  
Everyone Relax : 4/26/2024 11:19 am : link
In comment 16491131 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 16491001 Marty in Albany said:


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Adonai is Hebrew for "God" and clearly, the Giants need God's help this season.

I'm not big on DT Ruke Orhorhoro. His name sounds like somebody coughing up phlegm. At 294 pounds, that's a lot of phlegm.



You do realize for BBI thats actually a better reason that many give? Sy level IMO Bravo

His name actually sounds like a dog barking, which I love.
DB feels most likely  
RCPhoenix : 4/26/2024 11:24 am : link
The great thing about 14 players on offense going in the first 14 picks is the number of DBs who likely had first round grades that got pushed out of the first round.
I like Sanstrill at #47...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/26/2024 11:26 am : link
...and Jordan Travis at #70.
Would love Powers-Johnson  
bigblueny : 4/26/2024 11:27 am : link
as a cherry on top of the OL fortification, but this team needs corner help too. Either position would be great at 47.
RE: I like Sanstrill at #47...  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16491246 Brown_Hornet said:
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...and Jordan Travis at #70.

Way too high for Jordan Travis. He'll be there on day 3
RE: …  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16491044 ryanmkeane said:
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Sy’s top 3 out of 4 DTs are still available. Would love that in round 2.


I’m sort of there as well, DT/CB look optimal.
Edgerrin Cooper  
GiantsFan84 : 4/26/2024 11:47 am : link
This guy would really bring this defense to the next level

Excellent range, tackler and blitzer. Excellent at coverage. With him and Okereke each in charge of half the field in the box / flat this front 7 would be killer.

Imagine a better version of okereke playing next to okereke.

This guy is my dream in round 2
Could see Powers-Johnson falling like Torrence last year  
widmerseyebrow : 4/26/2024 11:51 am : link
I think teams like to go elsewhere in the top half of the 2nd.
We pick 15th, so here is my Top 15  
BigBlue7 : 4/26/2024 11:54 am : link
Cooper DeJean
Johnny Newton
Kool-Aid McKinstry
Max Melton
Ennis Rakestraw Jr
TJ Tampa
Andru Phillips
Jackson Powers Johnson
Jaden Hicks
Kamari Lassiter
Javon Bullard
Jonathon Brooks
DJ James
Trey Benson
Blake Corum

A different perspective of Sys best remaining  
Shecky : 4/26/2024 11:57 am : link
Made a post the other day about running Sys 24 grades and comparing the previous drafts. Then where guys were selected vs his grades. In simplicity, it takes into affect Sys grades, positional value, where they got picked, and the drft value chart.

Putting it all together with Sys 24 grades. This is the "best draft value" of Sys picks of who is left for round



24 players are worthy of the 47th overall pick, according to Sy's grades and the system. Three are WR, so I will remove them.

That leaves us with 21 players with 15 picks to go. Meaning we could easily drop several slots and still get a worthy player and pick up a later pick.

Three players, all at a position of need, JUMP OUT. If they are there, you can't trade down - you must take them
- G/C Powers-Johnson, DT Orhorhoro (plus, it's fun to say), and DB Cooper DeJean

Positions available that prvide 'value" at 47
1 OL, 2 DT, 7 S, 7 CB, 2 RB, 2 Edge.

Unless there is a run on S/CB's - I could see us trading down and selecting the best remaining one.
RE: RE: I like Sanstrill at #47...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/26/2024 12:00 pm : link
In comment 16491316 Strahan91 said:
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...and Jordan Travis at #70.


Way too high for Jordan Travis. He'll be there on day 3
He might be.
But, he might not.
RD3 has not been a sweet spot for NY and Travis is worthy of a shot.
RE: RE: RE: I like Sanstrill at #47...  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 12:08 pm : link
In comment 16491406 Brown_Hornet said:
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In comment 16491316 Strahan91 said:


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In comment 16491246 Brown_Hornet said:


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...and Jordan Travis at #70.


Way too high for Jordan Travis. He'll be there on day 3

He might be.
But, he might not.
RD3 has not been a sweet spot for NY and Travis is worthy of a shot.

I'd bet a lot of money he's available in the 4th/5th/6th. I think the only QB who'll get drafted today is Rattler
Benson...  
bklynGman : 4/26/2024 12:13 pm : link
Would be ideal for what we need at RB.
we need a te as well  
Essex : 4/26/2024 12:15 pm : link
especially if Waller retires.
RE: I'll go with WR Adonai Mitchell  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2024 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16491001 Marty in Albany said:
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Adonai is Hebrew for "God" and clearly, the Giants need God's help this season.

I'm not big on DT Ruke Orhorhoro. His name sounds like somebody coughing up phlegm. At 294 pounds, that's a lot of phlegm.


There is something funny going on regarding Mitchell and is has dropped like a rock on teams boards. Rumors about him not taking care of his diabetes (or something like that).
RE: Benson...  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16491448 bklynGman said:
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Would be ideal for what we need at RB.

I think they’d take Benson if he was there in the 3rd. Don’t think in the 2nd though unless they moved down later in the round
RE: we need a te as well  
GiantsFan84 : 4/26/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16491454 Essex said:
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especially if Waller retires.


They are more than fine at tight end. Bellinger and the two guys we signed is more than enough
Verse would be a good pick  
kelly : 4/26/2024 12:53 pm : link
can't have too many pass rushers. He has the size to be interior rusher on passing downs
RE: Verse would be a good pick  
BigBlue7 : 4/26/2024 12:55 pm : link
In comment 16491579 kelly said:
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can't have too many pass rushers. He has the size to be interior rusher on passing downs


You mean the guy the Rams took at 19 overall?
RE: RE: Verse would be a good pick  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2024 1:14 pm : link
In comment 16491586 BigBlue7 said:
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can't have too many pass rushers. He has the size to be interior rusher on passing downs



You mean the guy the Rams took at 19 overall?


Yes him, LOL. He'd be great for us at 47
I wouldn't look at RB until the third round  
Anakim : 4/26/2024 1:28 pm : link
There are still so many quality DL and CB options available....and some really good OL options as well.


Not including WRs or O-Linemen, my top-11 are:


1) DT Johnny Newton - Illinois
2) CB/S Cooper DeJean - Iowa
3) CB Kool-Aid McKinstry - Alabama
4) CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr. - Missouri
5) DT Kris Jenkins Jr. - Michigan
6) LB Edgerrin Cooper - Texas A&M
7) DT Braden Fiske - Florida State
8) DT Ruke O - Clemson
9) LB Payton Wilson - NC State
10) CB Max Melton - Rutgers
11) CB Mikey Sainristil - Michigan

I hate drafting solely for need, but the Giants need a corner tonight.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/26/2024 1:28 pm : link
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RE: RE: we need a te as well  
RCPhoenix : 4/26/2024 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16491572 GiantsFan84 said:
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especially if Waller retires.



They are more than fine at tight end. Bellinger and the two guys we signed is more than enough


The TE position is addition by subtraction without Waller - he was invisible last year.

My best guess is CB at #47.
RE: I hate drafting solely for need, but the Giants need a corner tonight.  
gary_from_chester : 4/26/2024 3:49 pm : link
In comment 16491706 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Size may knock him off Giants board, but love Sainristil.
Excited about DL the most  
giantstock : 4/26/2024 4:46 pm : link
Can build up a potential elite Defense at some point this year or next if that DL hits.

Also I'd love CB and OL.

**Please resist desire to take RB in Day 2 if you can get DL/CB/OL near value.
RE: It seems the value is there  
McNally's_Nuts : 4/26/2024 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16491013 Danny Kanell said:
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I would love another legitimate receiver.

Strengthen strengths, especially at premium positions.


Plus, you know more weapons for Jones.
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