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Desperate vs opportunistic

Milton : 4/26/2024 9:36 am
The rumors of trading up for Maye, but passing on Penix, JJM, and Nix tells me that their pursuit of a QB was more about opportunism given the 6 position than desperation to replace Jones.

When it comes to the QB position, I'm a big believer in being opportunistic regardless of the current starter and I applaud Atlanta for drafting Penix despite having Cousins on a brand new, big money deal. The difference between the Giants and Falcons may have come down to their evaluation of Penix or maybe it was simply that Atlanta didn't have Nabers as such an attractive alternative (and didn't have nearly the same need at the WR position as had the Giants).
I think you’re overthinking it.  
Section331 : 4/26/2024 9:39 am : link
If they didn’t want to replace Jones, why would they offer the moon to NE to move up? They wanted to replace Jones, but none of the QB’s left moved the needle for them. That says more about how the FO felt about the remaining QB’s than it says about how they feel about Jones. If they thought he was all that, they wouldn’t have mortgaged 4 high picks to replace him.
RE: I think you’re overthinking it.  
WhoCares : 4/26/2024 9:42 am : link
In comment 16490766 Section331 said:
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If they didn’t want to replace Jones, why would they offer the moon to NE to move up? They wanted to replace Jones, but none of the QB’s left moved the needle for them. That says more about how the FO felt about the remaining QB’s than it says about how they feel about Jones. If they thought he was all that, they wouldn’t have mortgaged 4 high picks to replace him.


You guys are saying the same thing
RE: RE: I think you’re overthinking it.  
Section331 : 4/26/2024 9:44 am : link
In comment 16490780 WhoCares said:
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In comment 16490766 Section331 said:


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If they didn’t want to replace Jones, why would they offer the moon to NE to move up? They wanted to replace Jones, but none of the QB’s left moved the needle for them. That says more about how the FO felt about the remaining QB’s than it says about how they feel about Jones. If they thought he was all that, they wouldn’t have mortgaged 4 high picks to replace him.



You guys are saying the same thing


Maybe I’m misreading Milton’s post, but I don’t think targeting Maye was about opportunity. In fact, giving up that many picks bordered on desperation. It would have been a tough pill to swallow, but I would have supported it.
I'm confused  
Milton : 4/26/2024 9:48 am : link
I thought they drafted Nabers and now you're telling me they gave up a bunch of picks to trade up for Maye? Please provide a link to this news because everything I see tells me that NE drafted Maye and the Giants took Nabers.
p.s.--we know the Giants looked into trading up and trading down  
Milton : 4/26/2024 10:23 am : link
We have no idea what offers they made and what offers they turned down. According to Schoen, there wasn't any substantive discussion on Thursday about trading up, only trading down.

If the Vikings had traded in front of the Giants to get JJM, I'm sure there would be somebody in the media or on BBI saying the Giants were actively trying to trade up for JJM, but couldn't match what Minnesota offered.

So this idea that they offered the moon for Maye because they were desperate, but turned up their nose at Penix, JJM, and Nix because they didn't like them at all simply doesn't ring true.
That is correct  
Mike from Ohio : 4/26/2024 10:25 am : link
The Giants appear open to moving on from Jones, and it may even be a priority, but it isn't critical.
IMHO  
Beer Man : 4/26/2024 11:19 am : link
The team saw 3-QBs they felt worthy of a 1st round (or maybe top-6) grade. Unfortunately, the 1st three teams in the draft were also QB hungry and took them; shit happens. At that point JS could have reached for a QB at 6 that he wasn't comfortable with, or he could spend the pick on a top-2/3, explosive player. Not the QB many wanted, but its hard not to be happy that Nabers is a Giant.
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