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Waller info I heard

Cliffy : 4/26/2024 12:18 pm
Hello BBI, I am a long time lurker but I do get some intel every now and then so I just wanted to let you know that I heard Waller is 100% done. So I will share the random nuggets I get if the hit rate stays high.

I know that prettyrickey shared something like this and it isn’t necessarily ground breaking but like I said I heard 100% done with football on Waller.

Side note, also was told many in the league view Nabers as a better talent than MHJ but has some Rashee Rice like character vibes. He finds himself in fishy situations but could have Tyreek type upside. Was told NYG kept things super tight (which is good) and that Maye and Nabers were the 2 names he was thinking for NYG. This is not from a NYG source.

So nothing earth shattering but that is what I got.

I hope everyone enjoys night 2!
Thanks Cliffy!  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2024 12:24 pm : link
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Keep an eye on Theo Johnson  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2024 12:25 pm : link
In around 3-4 range.
Heard the same yesterday, along with some other  
Saos1n : 4/26/2024 12:26 pm : link
Disturbing rumors

As reported, he’s getting divorced from Kelsey Plum. The reason why is since he got dealt to NY, he cheated on her a ton of times, including a few males. I’m not being sarcastic. My buddy grew up in the same town as Kelsey and is good friends with some in her circle.

Dudes battled some demons for a long time. I’m concerned about his future
I am so fatigued  
IchabodGiant : 4/26/2024 12:26 pm : link
from "asshat information" that I just can't. Totally not your fault, it's on me, but I just can't with the inside information right now.

I'll get over it, though. So, thanks for sharing!
not surprising  
WestCoastGFan : 4/26/2024 12:27 pm : link
he looked cooked last year
Thanks  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2024 12:27 pm : link
Agree that Waller is done. He isn't returning to NJ.
I expect him to retire but 100% doesn’t seem accurate  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 12:28 pm : link
given that he himself said he still hasn’t made up his mind about 20 minutes ago. From Duggan:
“ Just caught up with Darren Waller. Still no decision on his future. Why is he taking so long to make a decision?

“It’s just evaluating my overall commitment level. I don’t feel like it’s fair to my teammates, fair to the franchise, fair to people that support it to have somebody out there that isn’t 100% committed to the entire journey from April to February,”

Waller said he’s still training at the level necessary if he decides to play.

Waller participated in a roundtable today about his battle with addiction at Carrier Clinic, which is Hackensack Meridian Health's flagship behavioral health campus. It was really powerful to listen to Waller be so open about his personal journey.”
RE: not surprising  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/26/2024 12:29 pm : link
In comment 16491493 WestCoastGFan said:
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he looked cooked last year


Exactly. He’s doing us a favor by not returning.
There has been some social media hints  
Mike in Prescott : 4/26/2024 12:31 pm : link
that Waller relapsed sometime in the last year, which appears to be a primary factor in his divorce.

I do want to note that the Giants have a history of being very patient and discreet in supporting players who seek help with addictions. That would support the lack of comments by the Giants FO. If Waller is trying/getting clean and sober again, I would expect continued patience with him. Not cutting him while not commenting might indicate they are working with him to help get his life back on track (presuming the social media posts are accurate).

Just speculation on my part.
RE: There has been some social media hints  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16491509 Mike in Prescott said:
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that Waller relapsed sometime in the last year, which appears to be a primary factor in his divorce.

I do want to note that the Giants have a history of being very patient and discreet in supporting players who seek help with addictions. That would support the lack of comments by the Giants FO. If Waller is trying/getting clean and sober again, I would expect continued patience with him. Not cutting him while not commenting might indicate they are working with him to help get his life back on track (presuming the social media posts are accurate).

Just speculation on my part.

With no confirmation from anyone that even resembles a reliable source, that’s really not something you should just speculate about
RE: I am so fatigued  
FranknWeezer : 4/26/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16491491 IchabodGiant said:
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from "asshat information" that I just can't. Totally not your fault, it's on me, but I just can't with the inside information right now.

I'll get over it, though. So, thanks for sharing!


Go back to sleep, Ichybod!
RE: RE: There has been some social media hints  
Mike in Prescott : 4/26/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16491514 Strahan91 said:
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With no confirmation from anyone that even resembles a reliable source, that’s really not something you should just speculate about


The comments on Twitter by his friends and soon to be ex-wife are out there. Take it for what they may or may not be worth.
This is going to sound  
pjcas18 : 4/26/2024 12:38 pm : link
really insensitive, but IDGAF, would it be better for NYG from a salary cap standpoint if Waller retires or enters substance abuse program or no difference?

I hope we never see him again.  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/26/2024 12:39 pm : link
This franchise has a ton of other issues than worrying about this dumbass.
Charlie Weiss and Bob Papa said the other day on Sirius  
Dr. D : 4/26/2024 12:39 pm : link
once you start talking retirement, you're done.

Of course there are some exceptions, like Brady and Favre, who talked about retirement for years but kept playing.
RE: RE: RE: There has been some social media hints  
Strahan91 : 4/26/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16491523 Mike in Prescott said:
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In comment 16491514 Strahan91 said:


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With no confirmation from anyone that even resembles a reliable source, that’s really not something you should just speculate about



The comments on Twitter by his friends and soon to be ex-wife are out there. Take it for what they may or may not be worth.

I don’t know about the friends you’re referencing but his wife said nothing of the sort
Asshats or  
Silver Spoon : 4/26/2024 12:40 pm : link
assholes?
RE: This is going to sound  
UConn4523 : 4/26/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16491530 pjcas18 said:
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really insensitive, but IDGAF, would it be better for NYG from a salary cap standpoint if Waller retires or enters substance abuse program or no difference?


I initially though it did but I don’t believe so, so I don’t care how it ends up either at this point.
RE: I expect him to retire but 100% doesn’t seem accurate  
Shecky : 4/26/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16491504 Strahan91 said:
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given that he himself said he still hasn’t made up his mind about 20 minutes ago. From Duggan:
“ Just caught up with Darren Waller. Still no decision on his future. Why is he taking so long to make a decision?

“It’s just evaluating my overall commitment level. I don’t feel like it’s fair to my teammates, fair to the franchise, fair to people that support it to have somebody out there that isn’t 100% committed to the entire journey from April to February,”

Waller said he’s still training at the level necessary if he decides to play.

Waller participated in a roundtable today about his battle with addiction at Carrier Clinic, which is Hackensack Meridian Health's flagship behavioral health campus. It was really powerful to listen to Waller be so open about his personal journey.”


Thanks for that

Sounds like he knows he's checked out and done, but not closing the door completely - in case the "fire in the belly to compete" returns.
I'm done with asshat info  
Jim in Tampa : 4/26/2024 12:49 pm : link
(No offense.)

I also think that it's completely possible that Waller's thoughts about retirement may have stemmed from his pending divorce, and that his intentions may change as he works through his personal issues.
just posted  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 12:56 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Just spoke with Darren Waller a few minutes ago as he finished up an event here in New Jersey as the mental health ambassador for Hackensack Meridian Health.
Shared his story at the opening of the Carrier Clinic in Montgomery.

Waller said he has not finalized his decision regarding retirement, but was adamant that the decision has everything to do with whether he feels he can give 100 percent of himself to the team and the game.
I asked specifically if it has anything to do with the roster here or his experience last season. Waller insisted no. #NYGiants
if that quote of Waller's from Duggan is accurate,  
ColHowPepper : 4/26/2024 12:57 pm : link
there's an enormous contradiction. It's sad, but he just doesn't seem to be grounded.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 12:57 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Just caught up with Darren Waller. Still no decision on his future. Why is he taking so long to make a decision?

“It’s just evaluating my overall commitment level. I don’t feel like it’s fair to my teammates, fair to the franchise, fair to people that support it to have somebody out there that isn’t 100% committed to the entire journey from April to February,”

Waller said he’s still training at the level necessary if he decides to play.

Waller participated in a roundtable today about his battle with addiction at Carrier Clinic, which is Hackensack Meridian Health's flagship behavioral health campus. It was really powerful to listen to Waller be so open about his personal journey.
really a shame  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/26/2024 12:58 pm : link
he is uber talented - but uber crazy
RE: Charlie Weiss and Bob Papa said the other day on Sirius  
Beer Man : 4/26/2024 1:00 pm : link
In comment 16491537 Dr. D said:
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once you start talking retirement, you're done.

Of course there are some exceptions, like Brady and Favre, who talked about retirement for years but kept playing.
Agree, its a indication that a players heart may not be in the game anymore.
I hope he's ok and selfishly  
arniefez : 4/26/2024 1:00 pm : link
I hope he's done with football. I'd rather the Giants use his money on younger players who are all in.

It was Bill Parcells who said once a player starts thinking about retiring he's retired. Charlie Weis is just repeating it. Weis. One "s" not two.

There are some rumors posted above that are pretty salacious for an anonymous public forum. They sounds like the actions of a person in a lot of turmoil and pain. I hope he gets help if he needs it and and finds some inner peace.
RE: really a shame  
christian : 4/26/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16491599 gidiefor said:
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he is uber talented - but uber crazy


Say what?
Another victory  
Adam G in Big D : 4/26/2024 1:02 pm : link
for the New York Giants scouting department.
RE: really a shame  
GF1080 : 4/26/2024 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16491599 gidiefor said:
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he is uber talented - but uber crazy


Not really.
RE: Keep an eye on Theo Johnson  
Angus : 4/26/2024 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16491487 Sammo85 said:
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In around 3-4 range.


Start of third would be awesome.
RE: I hope he's ok and selfishly  
Angus : 4/26/2024 1:11 pm : link
In comment 16491606 arniefez said:
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I hope he's done with football. I'd rather the Giants use his money on younger players who are all in.

It was Bill Parcells who said once a player starts thinking about retiring he's retired. Charlie Weis is just repeating it. Weis. One "s" not two.

There are some rumors posted above that are pretty salacious for an anonymous public forum. They sounds like the actions of a person in a lot of turmoil and pain. I hope he gets help if he needs it and and finds some inner peace.


I have always attributed it to Marv Levy, but I have heard a few times more recently attributed to Parcells.
He looked done to me last year  
gpat1031 : 4/26/2024 1:11 pm : link
He really is a shell of his former self who doesn't want to run thru contact or put himself in harms way to make plays anymore.
That's what he played like to me. If your thinking of retirement, it means he has 1 foot out the door anyway, better off just retiring now.
He's a game player ...  
Manny in CA : 4/26/2024 1:36 pm : link

1. Figures he doesn't retire before the draft, so they won't draft his replacement.

2. Figures he sticks around collecting his check (while not playing), knowing full-well no other team wants him because he's damaged goods.

3. Plays "good guy", local boy who is grateful to come home

Yada, yada, yada. ....

Enough, let him go.

RE: just posted  
gersh : 4/26/2024 1:45 pm : link
In comment 16491591 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Just spoke with Darren Waller a few minutes ago as he finished up an event here in New Jersey as the mental health ambassador for Hackensack Meridian Health.
Shared his story at the opening of the Carrier Clinic in Montgomery.

Waller said he has not finalized his decision regarding retirement, but was adamant that the decision has everything to do with whether he feels he can give 100 percent of himself to the team and the game.
I asked specifically if it has anything to do with the roster here or his experience last season. Waller insisted no. #NYGiants


My guess
He’s trying to be classy about it
Schoen asked him to wait til the draft is done to not give any more info to other teams.
So  
Cliffy : 4/26/2024 2:00 pm : link
I was told he is definitely done, I can’t speak to any of the other things going on in his life. This particular source has been correct the last few times that I received intel so I figured I would just start sharing Gmen related info until he is wrong.
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