Schoen has a tendency to check needs at non-premium positions on Day 2. Grabbed the likely starting nickel here after grabbing a starter at safety last round. JMS last year and slot WR his first draft.
replace Flott in th slot. He's a complete liability in run support, and you just can't have that with your slot corner. This guy has the build to support the run and it certainly seems like he is unfraid to stick his nose in things. Huge upgrade if he replaces Flott
Size screams nickel but I’m reports that say he can play some outside too. Nickel is really a starting position in today’s NFL anyway.
I feel like we are always looking for someone who can play inside. Hopefully this is the guy. At 5’10” he may be too small to play outside consistently.
Schoen has a tendency to check needs at non-premium positions on Day 2. Grabbed the likely starting nickel here after grabbing a starter at safety last round. JMS last year and slot WR his first draft.
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Joe Schoen said Andru Phillips is "sticky." He has versatility to play inside and outside, but he'll likely begin in the slot.
Schoen has a tendency to check needs at non-premium positions on Day 2. Grabbed the likely starting nickel here after grabbing a starter at safety last round. JMS last year and slot WR his first draft.
CB is a premium position
He’s probably an inside corner although some think he can play outside.
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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1m
Andru Philips will have inside/outside flex and will begin his career in slot. Sounds like Cor'Dale Flott may get first shot at boundary, from talking to Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. #NYGIants
Too early for the Darnay Holmes Appreciation Thread?
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Schoen said the Giants have a young corps on defense that can now grow together. "I do think we have pieces in place."
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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1m
Andru Philips will have inside/outside flex and will begin his career in slot. Sounds like Cor'Dale Flott may get first shot at boundary, from talking to Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. #NYGIants
Flott can cover, but I hope he improves his tackling
Clearly the new staff prioritizes physicality in secondary
In the case of Nubin, I think he plays with incredible toughness yet intelligence and technique. Phillips to me is physical but grabby and looks for contact rather than taking the best angle.
LOVE Nubin, not a fan at all of Phillips. Which probably means Nubin will bust and Phillips will be a star. It's all a crapshoot. To hell with my evaluations lets hope they're both studs.
Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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1m
Andru Philips will have inside/outside flex and will begin his career in slot. Sounds like Cor'Dale Flott may get first shot at boundary, from talking to Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. #NYGIants
Flott can cover, but I hope he improves his tackling
Wuth Flott's size he's jjust never going to tackle well or support the run well
Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
i dont really care if corners get a ton of picks. what did banks have 1 last year and he was still really good? the way the game is now they are so disadvantaged by the rules they just need to stay attached.
RE: Wonder if this means they plan to play Flott outside.
we draft them every year. None are ever any good .
Think before you post
Tae Banks says hello
You should change your handle to Perpetually Miserable
Not talking about our first rd pick. We drafted 3 db last year two the year before and two the year before that. Why do we still need a db ?
Maybe you should think .
Because you look to upgrade all positions every year. Jackson left. McKinney left. Two starting players left, so they need replacements.
Not rocket science really. Perhaps Flott is not what they thought he'd be. Hawkins and Owens were later round pickups.
Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
i dont really care if corners get a ton of picks. what did banks have 1 last year and he was still really good? the way the game is now they are so disadvantaged by the rules they just need to stay attached.
He gave up 38 catches on 57 attempts for 434 yards with 3 TDs and zero picks on 422 coverage snaps last year. That means they threw his way over 25% of the time and had success doing it. Sorry I hope I am wrong.
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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3m
The Giants are viewing Andru Phillips as a slot CB first, but they will also have him play outside as well. GM Joe Schoen said they also view Cordell Flott as a CB that will play inside and out.
Versatility is something Schoen said is more of a focus under new DC Shane Bowen.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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7m
Phillips has versatility, but Schoen said he'll likely start out working the slot. Would make sense to put him there and flip Flott outside since Bowen's defense puts an emphasis on run D from the slot.
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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3m
The Giants are viewing Andru Phillips as a slot CB first, but they will also have him play outside as well. GM Joe Schoen said they also view Cordell Flott as a CB that will play inside and out.
Versatility is something Schoen said is more of a focus under new DC Shane Bowen.
That is interesting because he can tackle. That makes more sense.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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7m
Phillips has versatility, but Schoen said he'll likely start out working the slot. Would make sense to put him there and flip Flott outside since Bowen's defense puts an emphasis on run D from the slot.
meant this for this quote... That is interesting because he can tackle. That makes more sense.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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7m
Phillips has versatility, but Schoen said he'll likely start out working the slot. Would make sense to put him there and flip Flott outside since Bowen's defense puts an emphasis on run D from the slot.
Flott has flashed but needs consistency. Hopefully a third year is the charm.
Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
i dont really care if corners get a ton of picks. what did banks have 1 last year and he was still really good? the way the game is now they are so disadvantaged by the rules they just need to stay attached.
He gave up 38 catches on 57 attempts for 434 yards with 3 TDs and zero picks on 422 coverage snaps last year. That means they threw his way over 25% of the time and had success doing it. Sorry I hope I am wrong.
He gave up 38 catches on 57 attempts for 434 yards with 3 TDs and zero picks on 422 coverage snaps last year. That means they threw his way over 25% of the time and had success doing it. Sorry I hope I am wrong.
57 out of 422 is about 13 percent.
Oh crap... Did my math wrong... That is much better then. Still don't like him hahaha
Schoen has a tendency to check needs at non-premium positions on Day 2. Grabbed the likely starting nickel here after grabbing a starter at safety last round. JMS last year and slot WR his first draft.
CB is a premium position
He’s probably an inside corner although some think he can play outside.
I’m more than ok if he’s inside only, that’s a tough position to play and hard to find good ones.
but how can you pass on Cooper Beebe. Guess they figure their offseason patchwork of the OL will make it ok. And to make things worse Beebe goes to F'in Dallas!
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Taking a guard in the 3rd round….we don’t have the best history with those.
The team hasn't had good 3rd round picks since they chose Tuck. Hopefully Phillips changes that.
Hopefully Hyatt changed that. I'm not giving up on last year yet.
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of young CB's with Banks, Hawkins III, Flott, McCloud, Phillips, and possibly Aaron Robinson if he can make a full reovery.
Well stocked at nickel, but who starts outside, opposite Banks? Hawkins? Or McCloud?
Whoever wins the job.
Think before you post
Tae Banks says hello
You should change your handle to Perpetually Miserable
While the offense continues to average less than 15 PPG...
Yes, they will need to rely on the defense. Again.
They need more playmakers.
I feel like we are always looking for someone who can play inside. Hopefully this is the guy. At 5’10” he may be too small to play outside consistently.
Sy mentioned an arrest in 2021
CB is a premium position
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To see a bottom tier 10-yard split with top tier vert and broad.
Makes me think he got a bad start in his 40 and probably runs faster than the 4.48.
You don't often see that combo as both are explosion metrics related to the lower half.
I was just about to reply to Eric in Li to say that his 10y split was 1.51 not 1.6, per nfl.com.
i dont put the times in the RAS database i just post the cards lol.
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That need to be checked on include???
Sy mentioned an arrest in 2021
Arrested for burglary, but cleared by a grand jury, and suing the police.
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Do you think he can play outside?
@Dan_Salomone
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5m
Joe Schoen said Andru Phillips is "sticky." He has versatility to play inside and outside, but he'll likely begin in the slot.
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Schoen has a tendency to check needs at non-premium positions on Day 2. Grabbed the likely starting nickel here after grabbing a starter at safety last round. JMS last year and slot WR his first draft.
CB is a premium position
He’s probably an inside corner although some think he can play outside.
@art_stapleton
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1m
Andru Philips will have inside/outside flex and will begin his career in slot. Sounds like Cor'Dale Flott may get first shot at boundary, from talking to Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. #NYGIants
@wanda1erobinson
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gone be jus like old times😂😂
@AndruPhillips
@Dan_Salomone
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Schoen said the Giants have a young corps on defense that can now grow together. "I do think we have pieces in place."
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He can be really good but when things aren’t going right he can unravel. But I think this confirms Melton was their top option at 47.
Do you think he can play outside?
I don’t because of the size
@art_stapleton
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1m
Andru Philips will have inside/outside flex and will begin his career in slot. Sounds like Cor'Dale Flott may get first shot at boundary, from talking to Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. #NYGIants
Flott can cover, but I hope he improves his tackling
LOVE Nubin, not a fan at all of Phillips. Which probably means Nubin will bust and Phillips will be a star. It's all a crapshoot. To hell with my evaluations lets hope they're both studs.
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They'll need to heavily lean on the defense this year.
While the offense continues to average less than 15 PPG...
Yes, they will need to rely on the defense. Again.
They need more playmakers.
Guess you missed pick 6
Should they ignore other needs on the roster ?
Some of you people must be a real blast at parties
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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1m
Andru Philips will have inside/outside flex and will begin his career in slot. Sounds like Cor'Dale Flott may get first shot at boundary, from talking to Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll. #NYGIants
Flott can cover, but I hope he improves his tackling
Wuth Flott's size he's jjust never going to tackle well or support the run well
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we draft them every year. None are ever any good .
Think before you post
Tae Banks says hello
You should change your handle to Perpetually Miserable
Not talking about our first rd pick. We drafted 3 db last year two the year before and two the year before that. Why do we still need a db ?
Maybe you should think .
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
That's gold Jerry. Gold!"
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Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
i dont really care if corners get a ton of picks. what did banks have 1 last year and he was still really good? the way the game is now they are so disadvantaged by the rules they just need to stay attached.
I wonder that as well.
Good to hear all the positive comments from prognosticators about Phillips.
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we draft them every year. None are ever any good .
Think before you post
Tae Banks says hello
You should change your handle to Perpetually Miserable
Not talking about our first rd pick. We drafted 3 db last year two the year before and two the year before that. Why do we still need a db ?
Maybe you should think .
Because you look to upgrade all positions every year. Jackson left. McKinney left. Two starting players left, so they need replacements.
Not rocket science really. Perhaps Flott is not what they thought he'd be. Hawkins and Owens were later round pickups.
Charged with first-degree burglary (August 2021) in connection with an incident at a fraternity house party. Grad Jury dismissed.
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Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
i dont really care if corners get a ton of picks. what did banks have 1 last year and he was still really good? the way the game is now they are so disadvantaged by the rules they just need to stay attached.
He gave up 38 catches on 57 attempts for 434 yards with 3 TDs and zero picks on 422 coverage snaps last year. That means they threw his way over 25% of the time and had success doing it. Sorry I hope I am wrong.
@JordanRaanan
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3m
The Giants are viewing Andru Phillips as a slot CB first, but they will also have him play outside as well. GM Joe Schoen said they also view Cordell Flott as a CB that will play inside and out.
Versatility is something Schoen said is more of a focus under new DC Shane Bowen.
@DDuggan21
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7m
Phillips has versatility, but Schoen said he'll likely start out working the slot. Would make sense to put him there and flip Flott outside since Bowen's defense puts an emphasis on run D from the slot.
@JordanRaanan
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3m
The Giants are viewing Andru Phillips as a slot CB first, but they will also have him play outside as well. GM Joe Schoen said they also view Cordell Flott as a CB that will play inside and out.
Versatility is something Schoen said is more of a focus under new DC Shane Bowen.
That is interesting because he can tackle. That makes more sense.
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we draft them every year. None are ever any good .
Think before you post
Tae Banks says hello
You should change your handle to Perpetually Miserable
Not talking about our first rd pick. We drafted 3 db last year two the year before and two the year before that. Why do we still need a db ?
Maybe you should think .
Because Hawkins is still developing and Jackson left
Has Belton not contributed ?
Has Flott not flashed?
But we needed a nickel and got one
But go on complaining about nonsense
@DDuggan21
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7m
Phillips has versatility, but Schoen said he'll likely start out working the slot. Would make sense to put him there and flip Flott outside since Bowen's defense puts an emphasis on run D from the slot.
meant this for this quote... That is interesting because he can tackle. That makes more sense.
@DDuggan21
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7m
Phillips has versatility, but Schoen said he'll likely start out working the slot. Would make sense to put him there and flip Flott outside since Bowen's defense puts an emphasis on run D from the slot.
Flott has flashed but needs consistency. Hopefully a third year is the charm.
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Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN
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17m
Had several scouts tell me Andru Phillips was one of the best interviews they conducted pre-draft. Very heady player.
Bruce Feldman
@BruceFeldmanCFB
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20m
Giants grab Kentucky DB Andru Phillips. The coaches/scouts I spoke to were big fans of his. Really smart. Can play nickel. "I’ve got love for him. I think he’s got some of the best change of direction in the draft."
I mean he is loved by a lot of people that review this stuff, but man... He is sticky, but can't get hands on the ball at all?
i dont really care if corners get a ton of picks. what did banks have 1 last year and he was still really good? the way the game is now they are so disadvantaged by the rules they just need to stay attached.
He gave up 38 catches on 57 attempts for 434 yards with 3 TDs and zero picks on 422 coverage snaps last year. That means they threw his way over 25% of the time and had success doing it. Sorry I hope I am wrong.
57 out of 422 is about 13 percent.
He gave up 38 catches on 57 attempts for 434 yards with 3 TDs and zero picks on 422 coverage snaps last year. That means they threw his way over 25% of the time and had success doing it. Sorry I hope I am wrong.
57 out of 422 is about 13 percent.
Oh crap... Did my math wrong... That is much better then. Still don't like him hahaha
mccloud vs hawkins vs flott.
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Schoen has a tendency to check needs at non-premium positions on Day 2. Grabbed the likely starting nickel here after grabbing a starter at safety last round. JMS last year and slot WR his first draft.
CB is a premium position
He’s probably an inside corner although some think he can play outside.