I hope to hear more stories like this! Can you imagine heling pull your family out of poverty as a teenager.
In an ideal world, that’s what would be happening. Sadly, it’s nothing like that.
Won’t name the state or school. But there’s a national championship baseball program that already gets transfers from far away. And these kids conveniently get well paying no show jobs.
Once this becomes “legal”, can you imagine the money and gifts HS kids will be showered with as part of college recruiting?? Beyond what they ALREADY are getting.
The goal used to be to go pro. Now it’s college, and get paid. Next is do what it takes to get noticed in middle school to get paid in HS.
This along with gambling - the brutal end to sports. It will take a while, but it’s done by the ne t generation.
I hope to hear more stories like this! Can you imagine heling pull your family out of poverty as a teenager.
In an ideal world, that’s what would be happening. Sadly, it’s nothing like that.
Won’t name the state or school. But there’s a national championship baseball program that already gets transfers from far away. And these kids conveniently get well paying no show jobs.
Once this becomes “legal”, can you imagine the money and gifts HS kids will be showered with as part of college recruiting?? Beyond what they ALREADY are getting.
The goal used to be to go pro. Now it’s college, and get paid. Next is do what it takes to get noticed in middle school to get paid in HS.
This along with gambling - the brutal end to sports. It will take a while, but it’s done by the ne t generation.
I hope to hear more stories like this! Can you imagine heling pull your family out of poverty as a teenager.
In an ideal world, that’s what would be happening. Sadly, it’s nothing like that.
Won’t name the state or school. But there’s a national championship baseball program that already gets transfers from far away. And these kids conveniently get well paying no show jobs.
Once this becomes “legal”, can you imagine the money and gifts HS kids will be showered with as part of college recruiting?? Beyond what they ALREADY are getting.
The goal used to be to go pro. Now it’s college, and get paid. Next is do what it takes to get noticed in middle school to get paid in HS.
This along with gambling - the brutal end to sports. It will take a while, but it’s done by the ne t generation.
It won't be the end of high school, college, or professional sports but it will the end of the current American model. Teens are already paid in Europe to play for the youth teams of soccer clubs.
As for the US, we can already see college football coalescing into two super conferences where the schools that want to play in the big leagues will end up. It's not a coincidence that FSU and Clemson are both suing the ACC to leave. This type of reorganization will continue in all sports until it reaches an equilibrium.
There's no worry about kids not wanting to go pro. That's still where the real money is, college NIL deals aren't ever going to make going pro obsolete.
I hope to hear more stories like this! Can you imagine heling pull your family out of poverty as a teenager.
That's the ideal and it would be amazing, yes. But these stories are gonna be rife with kids getting taken advantage of and family struggles. There are myriad reasons for poverty, both internal and external, and there will be situations where a bag of money is the absolute worst thing you can hand some of these kids.
Did I read that in here? But, it does make the early jump for the draft in football and basketball less likely and less necessary for a lot of kids.
For example, without NIL, a kid like Sanders may have entered the draft this year. But, he makes so much via NIL that it pays for him to stay, hone his skills and have a shot at going in the top 5 in 2025, which would not have been the case this year.
for decades already. Anybody not know a school that conveniently has star athletes relocate to their district, Daddy has a nice new job or the kid stays with "relatives". I can think of a former football powerhouse in central PA notorious for that.
NIL deals should be held in a trust and provided to the student athlete only upon graduating high school IMO. At least that's my old man yells at cloud knee jerk reaction.
HS sports are not like college - in most places (maybe you have Texas HS football or Minnesota hockey, but those are exceptions and not close to the same $$$ being generated by college programs). I cannot believe HS teams are using HS students name, image, or likeness to make a profit. Especially not track athletes like was mentioned in the OP.
That was the rationale behind NIL to begin with. Colleges were profiting off players and not sharing in the profits, and it was just wrong.
If it's happening to the same extent in high school I'd be very surprised. Again, especially for track which isn't really a spectator sport, and I doubt there is a big TV/broadcast market for it.
Also, as a memorabilia aficionado I notice some HS athlete though already have NIL deals - for example Ju Ju Lewis has an NIL deal as one of the top rated quarterback prospects in the 2025 HS recruiting class (USC commit).
Air Noland had an NIL deal before committing to Ohio State.
But these types of deals with HS students change the intent and rationale/justification that made NIL make sense IMO.
NIL deals should be held in a trust and provided to the student athlete only upon graduating high school IMO. At least that's my old man yells at cloud knee jerk reaction.
HS sports are not like college - in most places (maybe you have Texas HS football or Minnesota hockey, but those are exceptions and not close to the same $$$ being generated by college programs). I cannot believe HS teams are using HS students name, image, or likeness to make a profit. Especially not track athletes like was mentioned in the OP.
That was the rationale behind NIL to begin with. Colleges were profiting off players and not sharing in the profits, and it was just wrong.
If it's happening to the same extent in high school I'd be very surprised. Again, especially for track which isn't really a spectator sport, and I doubt there is a big TV/broadcast market for it.
Also, as a memorabilia aficionado I notice some HS athlete though already have NIL deals - for example Ju Ju Lewis has an NIL deal as one of the top rated quarterback prospects in the 2025 HS recruiting class (USC commit).
Air Noland had an NIL deal before committing to Ohio State.
But these types of deals with HS students change the intent and rationale/justification that made NIL make sense IMO.
Excellent point about the intent of the NIL deal in NCAA.
In an ideal world, that’s what would be happening. Sadly, it’s nothing like that.
Won’t name the state or school. But there’s a national championship baseball program that already gets transfers from far away. And these kids conveniently get well paying no show jobs.
Once this becomes “legal”, can you imagine the money and gifts HS kids will be showered with as part of college recruiting?? Beyond what they ALREADY are getting.
The goal used to be to go pro. Now it’s college, and get paid. Next is do what it takes to get noticed in middle school to get paid in HS.
This along with gambling - the brutal end to sports. It will take a while, but it’s done by the ne t generation.
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I hope to hear more stories like this! Can you imagine heling pull your family out of poverty as a teenager.
In an ideal world, that’s what would be happening. Sadly, it’s nothing like that.
Won’t name the state or school. But there’s a national championship baseball program that already gets transfers from far away. And these kids conveniently get well paying no show jobs.
Once this becomes “legal”, can you imagine the money and gifts HS kids will be showered with as part of college recruiting?? Beyond what they ALREADY are getting.
The goal used to be to go pro. Now it’s college, and get paid. Next is do what it takes to get noticed in middle school to get paid in HS.
This along with gambling - the brutal end to sports. It will take a while, but it’s done by the ne t generation.
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I hope to hear more stories like this! Can you imagine heling pull your family out of poverty as a teenager.
In an ideal world, that’s what would be happening. Sadly, it’s nothing like that.
Won’t name the state or school. But there’s a national championship baseball program that already gets transfers from far away. And these kids conveniently get well paying no show jobs.
Once this becomes “legal”, can you imagine the money and gifts HS kids will be showered with as part of college recruiting?? Beyond what they ALREADY are getting.
The goal used to be to go pro. Now it’s college, and get paid. Next is do what it takes to get noticed in middle school to get paid in HS.
This along with gambling - the brutal end to sports. It will take a while, but it’s done by the ne t generation.
It won't be the end of high school, college, or professional sports but it will the end of the current American model. Teens are already paid in Europe to play for the youth teams of soccer clubs.
As for the US, we can already see college football coalescing into two super conferences where the schools that want to play in the big leagues will end up. It's not a coincidence that FSU and Clemson are both suing the ACC to leave. This type of reorganization will continue in all sports until it reaches an equilibrium.
There's no worry about kids not wanting to go pro. That's still where the real money is, college NIL deals aren't ever going to make going pro obsolete.
That's the ideal and it would be amazing, yes. But these stories are gonna be rife with kids getting taken advantage of and family struggles. There are myriad reasons for poverty, both internal and external, and there will be situations where a bag of money is the absolute worst thing you can hand some of these kids.
For example, without NIL, a kid like Sanders may have entered the draft this year. But, he makes so much via NIL that it pays for him to stay, hone his skills and have a shot at going in the top 5 in 2025, which would not have been the case this year.
HS sports are not like college - in most places (maybe you have Texas HS football or Minnesota hockey, but those are exceptions and not close to the same $$$ being generated by college programs). I cannot believe HS teams are using HS students name, image, or likeness to make a profit. Especially not track athletes like was mentioned in the OP.
That was the rationale behind NIL to begin with. Colleges were profiting off players and not sharing in the profits, and it was just wrong.
If it's happening to the same extent in high school I'd be very surprised. Again, especially for track which isn't really a spectator sport, and I doubt there is a big TV/broadcast market for it.
Also, as a memorabilia aficionado I notice some HS athlete though already have NIL deals - for example Ju Ju Lewis has an NIL deal as one of the top rated quarterback prospects in the 2025 HS recruiting class (USC commit).
Air Noland had an NIL deal before committing to Ohio State.
But these types of deals with HS students change the intent and rationale/justification that made NIL make sense IMO.
HS sports are not like college - in most places (maybe you have Texas HS football or Minnesota hockey, but those are exceptions and not close to the same $$$ being generated by college programs). I cannot believe HS teams are using HS students name, image, or likeness to make a profit. Especially not track athletes like was mentioned in the OP.
That was the rationale behind NIL to begin with. Colleges were profiting off players and not sharing in the profits, and it was just wrong.
If it's happening to the same extent in high school I'd be very surprised. Again, especially for track which isn't really a spectator sport, and I doubt there is a big TV/broadcast market for it.
Also, as a memorabilia aficionado I notice some HS athlete though already have NIL deals - for example Ju Ju Lewis has an NIL deal as one of the top rated quarterback prospects in the 2025 HS recruiting class (USC commit).
Air Noland had an NIL deal before committing to Ohio State.
But these types of deals with HS students change the intent and rationale/justification that made NIL make sense IMO.