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Giants signed cornerback David Long Jr

mofti : 5/1/2024 4:29 pm
Per giants.com
I thought he was a LB  
KDavies : 5/1/2024 4:35 pm : link
I looked it up. Apparently there are two David Long Jr's in the NFL
I searched his name  
All4giants : 5/1/2024 4:35 pm : link
in google and it says he was a linebacker with the Dolphins? Listed at 5'11" 227lbs. Also played for the Titans in 2019.
RE: I searched his name  
DanMetroMan : 5/1/2024 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16502859 All4giants said:
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in google and it says he was a linebacker with the Dolphins? Listed at 5'11" 227lbs. Also played for the Titans in 2019.


Different guy
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DanMetroMan : 5/1/2024 4:36 pm : link
David Long

David Long Jr.

Position: CB

5-11, 196lb (180cm, 88kg)

Born: February 6, 1998 in Los Angeles, CA (Age: 26-085d)

College: Michigan (College Stats)

Weighted Career AV (100-95-...): 6 (10278th overall since 1960)

High School: Loyola (CA)

Draft: Los Angeles Rams in the 3rd round (79th overall) of the 2019 NFL Draft.
both David Long Jr's  
KDavies : 5/1/2024 4:37 pm : link
were drafted in 2019, making it even more confusing
did a whole thread on veteran corners and missed david long  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 4:38 pm : link
gotta take an L there i guess.

outside corner who has bounced around, 12 starts, 66 games played, played for 4 different teams (3 last year). started 6 games for the 2021 SB winning rams, including 1 playoff game (appeared in all 4).

looks like he has tackled pretty well as a pro so that's one positive. I remember him being a popular name in the draft.



i'd have signed someone more proven like witherspoon but this isnt too far off. has only given up 4 touchdowns in his whole coverage career, also only 11 missed tackles and 6 penalties. has played 950 snaps outside and 150 at slot.

Thanks Dan  
All4giants : 5/1/2024 4:38 pm : link
The David Long Jr we signed played for 3 different teams last year. Makes me think it's a camp body signing but who knows.
RE: Thanks Dan  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 4:41 pm : link
In comment 16502865 All4giants said:
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The David Long Jr we signed played for 3 different teams last year. Makes me think it's a camp body signing but who knows.


in terms of general level he is similar to darnay holmes.

midround pick who made through his full 4 year rookie deal with LAR as an occasional starter (just like Holmes here).

after that contract expired he got a 1.5m deal last year from Vegas, similar to holmes this offseason, then got cut a few times. it looks like he got cut right when AP took over so that's a little bit of a flag.
Sy was a big fan of his in 2019  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 4:43 pm : link
he ended up going round 3 to the Rams.

7: David Long – Michigan – 5’11/196

Grade: 79

Summary: Junior entry with two years of starting experience. A First Team All Big 10 defender that may not have the ball-production that some look for, but Long is one of the best pure cover corners in the class. His ability to minimize separation between himself and the receiver on all levels of the route tree is something that will translate to the league right away. His hips are fluid and his feet are light. Long also plays with a pitbull-mentality. He wants to fight his man and shows no hesitation when it comes to mixing it up and playing physical. There is a combination of positive traits here that can really turn in to something at the next level. Quarterbacks rarely want to throw in his direction.

*Kind of the complete opposite from Williams above. Long doesn’t have the most attractive highlight tape but a big part of that is the fact QBs did not want to throw his way. He may be a top 3 man-cover corner in this class and he brings the baller mentality to the table. I believe most have Long as a day 3 pick but if you do end up getting him there, it might be the steal of the draft.

NFL Comparison: Stephon Gilmore / NE
Nope...he is a Wolverine  
AROCK1000 : 5/1/2024 4:46 pm : link
I kid...
I actually was hoping we would grab Sainristil
Wisconsin/Michigan wounds never fully heal.
On Wisconsin!!

He’s a JAG  
Breeze_94 : 5/1/2024 4:51 pm : link
Probably direct competition for Holmes though I think he can possibly play outside?
He actually played  
Breeze_94 : 5/1/2024 4:53 pm : link
Quite a bit and was a big part of Rams SB run..looks like he is stronger as a nickel/slot
He's the DB  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2024 5:25 pm : link
he scored in the Arizona playoff game... one of Kyler's worst moments.
remember this?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2024 5:27 pm : link
ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPvdoxMa8o0 - ( New Window )
RE: remember this?  
GFAN52 : 5/1/2024 5:31 pm : link
In comment 16502935 Eric from BBI said:
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ha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPvdoxMa8o0 - ( New Window )


I never watched that game. What an ugly play by Murray.
Fits the Bowen bill  
Joey in VA : 5/1/2024 5:33 pm : link
Physical and aggressive CB who can tackle.
RE: Fits the Bowen bill  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16502940 Joey in VA said:
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Physical and aggressive CB who can tackle.


also sticky coverage > ball skills.

seems like bowen's corners are going to be about limiting separation and playing physical while his safeties are the ball skills guys creating turnovers.
RE: remember this?  
Mike from Ohio : 5/1/2024 5:44 pm : link
In comment 16502935 Eric from BBI said:
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ha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPvdoxMa8o0 - ( New Window )


What a phenomenal decision by Murray. What could be worse than a safety?
RE: He actually played  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2024 6:02 pm : link
In comment 16502899 Breeze_94 said:
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Quite a bit and was a big part of Rams SB run..looks like he is stronger as a nickel/slot


Yup, he's another nickel/slot corner.

Giants really want to nail that down.
he has mostly played outside not slot fwiw  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 6:07 pm : link
i posted the screenshot from PFF above but it was hard to read. each row is a year with most recent on top so the SB year in LA was 407 snaps outside, 74 in the slot - though he did play more slot in the postseason than the regular season that year when some other DBs got hurt:

Eric on Li  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2024 6:09 pm : link
Weird... a bunch of articles came up on him and playing slot CB for the Rams.
draft review  
Hilary : 5/1/2024 6:13 pm : link
Very positive review.Analysts reported a little short 5-10 with short arms but great speed and agility. Ony 34% passes against completed at Michigan
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I presume  
BigBlueinDE : 5/1/2024 6:13 pm : link
that Flott is going to play on the outside? McCloud, I'd think, they'd want to keep on ST primarily, but am uncertain.
i think mccloud / phillips / flott are all competing for cb2/cb3  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 6:29 pm : link
holmes is a backup slot option.
long is a backup outside option.

id have signed a more starter outside option but i do think all 3 of mccloud/phillips/flott deserve a shot.

mccloud has looked good every time he's been pressed into action.

flott is still only 22 and has flashed.

phillips is a rookie so who knows. he could be an unexpected stud right away or a depth/st guy.
RE: i think mccloud / phillips / flott are all competing for cb2/cb3  
bigbluewillrise : 5/1/2024 6:33 pm : link
In comment 16502985 Eric on Li said:
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holmes is a backup slot option.
long is a backup outside option.

id have signed a more starter outside option but i do think all 3 of mccloud/phillips/flott deserve a shot.

mccloud has looked good every time he's been pressed into action.

flott is still only 22 and has flashed.

phillips is a rookie so who knows. he could be an unexpected stud right away or a depth/st guy.


dont count on hawksins.
RE: RE: i think mccloud / phillips / flott are all competing for cb2/cb3  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 6:34 pm : link
In comment 16502987 bigbluewillrise said:
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In comment 16502985 Eric on Li said:


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holmes is a backup slot option.
long is a backup outside option.

id have signed a more starter outside option but i do think all 3 of mccloud/phillips/flott deserve a shot.

mccloud has looked good every time he's been pressed into action.

flott is still only 22 and has flashed.

phillips is a rookie so who knows. he could be an unexpected stud right away or a depth/st guy.



dont count on hawksins.


you're right - i totally forgot him. who knows maybe robinson in the mix too.
What was the reason for this  
prdave73 : 5/1/2024 9:23 pm : link
signing? Just don't get it..
RE: What was the reason for this  
Eric on Li : 5/1/2024 9:27 pm : link
In comment 16503162 prdave73 said:
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signing? Just don't get it..


nfl teams are allowed to bring 90 players to camp.
there are 32 teams (*90 players = 2880 players).
this is likely a veteran minimum signing.

is your point they should save the money and bring fewer than 90 players to camp?
Did/will David Long participate in the rookie try out camp?  
Marty in Albany : 5/1/2024 9:59 pm : link
?
RE: What was the reason for this  
armstead98 : 5/2/2024 12:07 am : link
In comment 16503162 prdave73 said:
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signing? Just don't get it..


Our 2nd CB is an open competition, the more the merrier. And what happens when Banks misses time? Will be nice to not have to fully rely on Hawkins or a rookie.
I’m now impressed  
5BowlsSoon : 5/2/2024 8:36 am : link
It doesn’t take much to get me hopeful. His resume looks impressive. The write ups and the video Hilary linked are awesome to help us know him better.I think his experience is just what we need. Thanks to Eric in LI and thanks to Hilary….but more Iimportantly, thanks to Joe Schoen for always working to improve our team. I believe 100% in you even if you do make some mistakes.
I have to imagine ...  
BronxBob : 5/2/2024 10:39 am : link
... this CB competition can be directed in part toward conditioning Nabers to some more aggressive coverages he hasn't seen very much of ... without getting him injured please.
We have a lot of bodies  
Rudy5757 : 5/2/2024 10:49 am : link
To try out at CB2 and slot. None have ever really been consistently good. We may also employ a rotation based on opponent and not have an actual regular CB2 or slot until someone really steps up.
Tre Hawkins3  
5BowlsSoon : 5/2/2024 1:53 pm : link
Anybody have anything (any news) to say about this kid? I know he was only a 6th round pick so I shouldn’t expect much from him….yet he earned the right to start when the season began. Of course that didn’t last long. So, any encouraging update or should I just assume no news is bad news?
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