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NFT: Mets @ Rays: Game 2 –⚾Scott (R) vs. Littell (R)⚾– 7:15 pm ET

Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 5:49 pm

Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the games in St. Petersburg tonight and tomorrow against the Rays.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised exclusively on national tv on Fox, while tomorrow’s game will be on SNY.
-The weather for tonight's game at Tropicana Field won't be an issue since it's domed.
-The Mets made four official roster moves today thus far. They’re as follows: (1) selected the contract of RHP Christian Scott from Syracuse, (2) recalled RHP Cole Sulser from Syracuse, (3) optioned LHP Danny Young to Syracuse, & (4) optioned RHP Dedniel Núñez to Syracuse.

-Click HERE to see the list of Mets transactions thus far for May.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for tonight's game will consist of Narváez (L), Wendle (L), Stewart (L), & Taylor (R).
Check out the Minor League thread for May below:  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 5:50 pm : link
We'll be doing one each month for the rest of the season. It'll be easier to consolidate info this way and for everyone to be able to follow along any news and information centering around the club's various affiliates.


NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm



*For reference purposes, here is the link for the previous month as well:
NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
pumped to see scott in a game for real  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 6:44 pm : link
pretty cool for him that its in FL too.
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 7:13 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets @ Rays | 7:15 pm EDT start - May 4, 2024 – National TV Broadcast: FOX - Amin & Wainwright (ihdstreams.xyz)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Rays - May 4, 2024 - 7:15 pm EDT start


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
well this is about the sloppiest first 5 pitches ive ever seen  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 7:18 pm : link
mostly the rays but jeez.
Did we bring up Scott  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2024 7:31 pm : link
Or Thomas Szapucki?
RE: Did we bring up Scott  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 7:41 pm : link
In comment 16506390 Mike in NY said:
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Or Thomas Szapucki?


tampa did some good hitting there. jumped on him early and palacios had a good 1 handed 2 strike double. he's hitting .300 for a reason.
Nice 8  
JayBinQueens : 5/4/2024 7:51 pm : link
Pitch inning
2nd inning look easy - just 8 pitches and 1 k  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 7:52 pm : link
neither ball in play was hard hit, both were basically auto outs by xba (.000, .020).
Would be nice to get CS a lead.  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 8:06 pm : link
Don't wanna give this kid the deGrom treatment we used to lament.
I'm right behind HP  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/4/2024 8:36 pm : link
He's cruising.
Pete not doing himself (or the Mets) any favors in his  
CooperDash : 5/4/2024 8:44 pm : link
contract year. The team that overpays for Pete is going to be disappointed. It’s really hard to not see Chris Davis 2.0 in Pete.
Great Scott!  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 8:53 pm : link
CS might be able to give us 8 innings this game the way he's pitching.
RE: I'm right behind HP  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16506417 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He's cruising.


clutch timing TTH. great game to be at.
RE: Great Scott!  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2024 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16506426 Optimus-NY said:
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CS might be able to give us 8 innings this game the way he's pitching.


I think they will stop at 7 unless he has another very fast inning because right now he would likely be in low 90’s after next inning and your “top” bullpen arms are rested.
RE: Great Scott!  
KDavies : 5/4/2024 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16506426 Optimus-NY said:
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CS might be able to give us 8 innings this game the way he's pitching.


79 pitches after 6. I'd turn it over to the bullpen. Let it out on a high note.

Incredibly impressive debut. We have a good one.
Reed Garrett coming on now.  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 9:15 pm : link
What a debut by our top arm in the system!
Scott looked great  
moze1021 : 5/4/2024 9:17 pm : link
He is a slinger...I can't think of someone who pitched like that. anyone?
this is going to be the amed rosario series isn't it  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 9:18 pm : link
why do our ex players hate us so much.
Here's Scott's final pitching line of the evening:  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 9:25 pm : link
94 pitches (67 strikes)
6.2 IP
5 H
1 R
1 ER
1 BB
6 K
0 HR
1.35 ERA

5 groundouts, 4 flyouts
25 batters faced
1 DP
4 LOB
2 runners left in scoring position with 2 outs
1 SB allowed
RE: Scott looked great  
KDavies : 5/4/2024 9:28 pm : link
In comment 16506438 moze1021 said:
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He is a slinger...I can't think of someone who pitched like that. anyone?


Very rare debut. I've seen some talented pitchers before, but very rare to see that combination of stuff plus control and poise in a young pitcher. Reminds me of deGroms debut. He went 7 innings 1 run 6 Ks. 2 walks and 4 hits. Very similar numbers.

deGrom was more a curiosity at the time (at least for me). He had 7 good starts in the minors that year, but the year before he had a 4.51 ERA with 168 hits and 120 Ks in 147.2 innings. But Scott is the best homegrown pitcher since JDG. So exciting to see. He better be here to stay
Yeah..but his delivery and arm slot is pretty unique  
moze1021 : 5/4/2024 9:32 pm : link
I guess best comp I can think of is a right handed Oliver Perez in the way he throws he ball with his shoulder..

It's not similar to deGrom who has textbook mechanics.
And of course those textbook mechanics  
moze1021 : 5/4/2024 9:34 pm : link
The from Jake resulted in both 102 MPH velocity and elbow issues. So maybe textbook isn't all that good .lol
GREAT play by Lindor to keep the game tied!  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 9:47 pm : link
How about that? Amazing throw too!
RE: GREAT play by Lindor to keep the game tied!  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 9:57 pm : link
In comment 16506459 Optimus-NY said:
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How about that? Amazing throw too!


that was unreal. bp has been great but in tight situations give up too many walks. not a huge surprise given most of their track records.
Continues to be the worst team money can buy  
CooperDash : 5/4/2024 9:57 pm : link
Hope Stearns has a plan.
Frustrating loss  
Optimus-NY : 5/4/2024 10:16 pm : link
Fudge...
RE: Continues to be the worst team money can buy  
KDavies : 5/4/2024 10:16 pm : link
In comment 16506468 CooperDash said:
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Hope Stearns has a plan.


Otto could have given up 7 runs that inning and I'd still have a beaming smile on my face. We have what looks like a home grown, cost-controlled top of the rotation starter.
RE: RE: Continues to be the worst team money can buy  
CooperDash : 5/4/2024 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16506476 KDavies said:
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In comment 16506468 CooperDash said:


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Hope Stearns has a plan.



Otto could have given up 7 runs that inning and I'd still have a beaming smile on my face. We have what looks like a home grown, cost-controlled top of the rotation starter.


Well, I have the ability to separate the two. Super thrilled that Scott had a great debut. Let’s see how he responds in his next start. Calling him a top of the rotation starter after one game against a struggling team is a bit premature, but it’s the type of debut you hope for.

The rest of the team needs to get their heads out of their asses. And I’m almost at the point where I’d be totally fine letting Pete go.
Pete certainly owns a lot of this cold streak  
Eric on Li : 5/4/2024 10:44 pm : link
he entered wednesday April 17th with a 914 ops.
after today he's down to 743.

lindor has started heating up, jdm has hit ok behind him, though he hasn't hit for much power yet.

alvarez went out 4/19. mcneil and marte havent been good since then either.

presumably these guys will get it going at some point and you would think the injury luck will improve, but if not i do think things will start getting frustrating because BPs can only stay near-perfect for so long.

i think not letting vientos have zack short's spot to open the season is already proving to have been a mistake though. jdm replicating his performance last year was a worthy gamble but never assured, especially once his back flared up. i havent seen anything to worrying from him yet but it sure would have been nice to have another break out guy like baty has from day 1.
Kid looked good tonight! I was impressed with his command  
Four Aces : 5/5/2024 12:12 am : link
and composure especially in the 1st inning. Tired of these Mets hitters though…
McNeil’s time is running out. Alonso is losing dollars by the day the way he’s hitting. Too many black holes in this lineup.
RE: Kid looked good tonight! I was impressed with his command  
Optimus-NY : 5/5/2024 7:47 am : link
In comment 16506523 Four Aces said:
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and composure especially in the 1st inning. Tired of these Mets hitters though…
McNeil’s time is running out. Alonso is losing dollars by the day the way he’s hitting. Too many black holes in this lineup.



McNeil turned me off a lot yesterday, particularly in the field on two throws to 2B from Nido that he allowed to get to the OF. I wish Acuna was performing better though in the minors.
RE: RE: Kid looked good tonight! I was impressed with his command  
Four Aces : 5/5/2024 11:05 am : link
In comment 16506561 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16506523 Four Aces said:


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and composure especially in the 1st inning. Tired of these Mets hitters though…
McNeil’s time is running out. Alonso is losing dollars by the day the way he’s hitting. Too many black holes in this lineup.




McNeil turned me off a lot yesterday, particularly in the field on two throws to 2B from Nido that he allowed to get to the OF. I wish Acuna was performing better though in the minors.

I missed one of the throws. The one I did see thought it wasn’t a great throw by Nido. But nevertheless, McNeil has not looked like anything like a batting champ last year and this year so far. If he’s not getting base hits and lengthening this lineup, then let’s see Acuna who’s out. Unfortunately, that most likely won’t happen this year.
Looks like Scott's next start will be against Atlanta  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/5/2024 11:06 am : link
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Acuna  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 11:07 am : link
is hitting .214 with a 52 wRC+. He's been HORRENDOUS.
RE: Acuna  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 11:11 am : link
In comment 16506719 DanMetroMan said:
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is hitting .214 with a 52 wRC+. He's been HORRENDOUS.


Syracuse Mets with at least 50 PA's with a lower wRC+

= Yolmer Sanchez

Syracuse Mets with a lower BB%

= None

Syracuse Mets with a lower OBP

= None

Syracuse Mets with a lower slug

= Yolmer Sanchez

It's only May but Acuna has been painfully bad so far, he's not an option. Next up would be somebody like Jose Iglesias or Rylan Bannon.
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Named Later : 5/5/2024 11:27 am : link
Luis Acuna's approach at the plate has been bad too. I listen to a few Syracuse games on the Internet Radio machine, and he wastes at-bats. He came up with the bases loaded the other night, the pitcher was struggling....and Acuna swung at the fist pitch. Grounded out and killed a big inning. That was the night he went 0 for 6 or some such.

He's also been playing mostly SS, only a handful of games at 2B. He's a good fielder. And he's fast, like 'hit the light switch and be under the covers before dark' fast. If he gets on base....he's going.

Maybe April in Syracuse just doesn't suit him. Hope he turns it around in May.
RE: Acuna  
Four Aces : 5/5/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16506719 DanMetroMan said:
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is hitting .214 with a 52 wRC+. He's been HORRENDOUS.

Unfortunate because with Mauricio out and Acuna’s poor play… McNeil is gonna stay in the lineup I suspect.
this was acuna's first month in AAA  
Eric on Li : 5/5/2024 11:54 am : link
his babip is .256. when he was acquired from texas it was .381, which is not sustainable but it should be somewhere between those 2 numbers, probably better than league average (.300) since he is fast.

he has actually hit for power comparable to what he did in tex (iso was 138 tex, is 120 now). k-rate also similar (20% now, 19% then). so the 2 missing ingredients are singles and walks.

his numbers are his numbers and 125 plate appearances into the season isnt nothing but the majority of players are 1 hot streak away from numbers that look good. if he went 5 for 5 today he'd be hitting 30 points higher tomorrow. if he goes 9 for 12 in 1 series he is hitting .264. baseball is streaky, we see it with lindor and alonso and they have been as productive as anyone the last couple years.

the guys who have good seasons start to finish (any experience level/league) usually have some good fortune in there.

jett is going through the same thing btw, his babip is .205 right now and thats probably a big reason he's hitting .179. he walks so much his numbers are buoyed but last year his babip was above .322 at every level he played. that is a lot of balls not falling in (some for good reason, a lot likely just bad luck).
The  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 11:57 am : link
point I was making was he's not an option to be called up. Nobody calls up a hitter who is performing 50% below league average (and the 2nd worst hitter on his own team) to replace a "healthy" Jeff McNeil. Iglesias would 99.9% get the call if they need an IFer.
Also  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 12:03 pm : link
if we are being fair, Acuna stunk with Bing last season (37 games 76 wRC+) so the sample size while still relatively small is closer to 60 games in which he hasn't really hit. ISO is not league or park adjusted so his .120 ISO looks better than it really is. It's 8th on his own team (9 qualified hitters).
Jose  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 12:05 pm : link
Iglesias for comparisons sake .200 ISO, Rylan Bannon .300. A .120 ISO is 96th in the IL out of 133 qualified hitters so he's not really "hitting for power" either.
oh totally agree he's not getting called up any time soon  
Eric on Li : 5/5/2024 12:08 pm : link
just pointing out that there are always statistical quirks in statlines. sometimes they are just terrible across the board but usually there is some mix of good/bad/lucky/unlucky. it has not been a good opening month+ for acuna but there's still some good and what looks like some unlucky in there.
some actual good news for a change?  
Eric on Li : 5/5/2024 12:11 pm : link
assume we are still 3-4 weeks away best case (3-5 appearances?) but would be really nice to see this group hang on and then get senga/alvarez back some time in june.
SNY @SNYtv Kodai Senga 'felt great' after latest live BP, rehab assignment could be the next step - ( New Window )
Still  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 12:11 pm : link
early for sure but he's probably not even on their radar right now. McNeil gets hurt Wendle (barf), Iglesias, Bannon, even Ritter probably called up before they go with Acuna. Acuna is an above average defensive 2b but this lineup but this lineup is struggling as is.
Should  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 12:16 pm : link
be interesting to see what they do

Senga, Severino, Quintana, Manaea presumably are locked in once Senga returns. Butto has earned an extended look, Scott looked great does Peterson move to the BP? Manaea is their only SP with bullpen experience and that seems unlikely at this juncture. That's not even getting into Megill who is pretty close.
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DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 12:20 pm : link
Mathew Brownstein
@MBrownstein89
Outs Above Average leaders at third base in the National League:

Nolan Arenado: +4
Oliver Dunn: +2
Trey Lipscomb: +2
Brett Baty: +2
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DanMetroMan : 5/5/2024 12:28 pm : link
Brett Baty is now tied for 5th in fWAR amongst NL 3b. He's also 5th in wRC+, 5th in OBP, 5th in wOBA, 2nd in OAA
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