let's break down Barkley's journey like we're dissecting game tape. Back in his rookie year, the guy was a force of nature, blazing down the field like a freight train. I'm talking 3.41 yards after contact per attempt (YCO/A), putting him up there with the big dogs at 6th in the league. And let's not forget his breakaway speed, hitting speeds that would make a cheetah jealous. But fast forward to 2023, and we're looking at a different story. Sure, he's still got some moves, but his YCO/A has dropped to 2.91, landing him at 46th in the league. And that breakaway speed? Well, let's just say it's not as impressive as it used to be.
Now, let's dissect why. Some say it's his build, wide like a brick house but lacking that compact, dense muscle you see in the real bruisers. I mean, look at guys like Nick Chubb or Tony Pollard – they're built like tanks, powering through tackles like they're paper walls. Barkley, on the other hand, looks like Tarzan and runs like Jane, he seemed more inclined to dance around defenders than bulldoze through them. And while that might have worked in college, and before his knee injury, it's not exactly a sustainable strategy when you lost that extra step. For whatever reason, his weight room leg drive didn't work in games.
So, where does that leave us? Well, if we're serious about dominating on the field in 2024 and beyond, we need to shake things up. Enter Tyrone Tracy. This guy's been tore it up in college, albeit for only 1 season, but boasting a YCO/A of 4.44, higher than some of the big names like Bijon Robinson or Jaymir Gibbs. And let's not forget his breakaway ability – he's like a runaway freight train, leaving defenders in the dust.
Now, I get it, losing Barkley might feel like a gut punch. But if we want to stay competitive in this league, we need to be willing to make the tough calls. And bringing in a talent like Tracy might just be the spark we need to ignite our offense and bring home some Ws.
So, yeah, let's roll the dice on Tracy and see if he's the missing piece we've been searching for. Who knows, he might just be the key to unlocking our full potential on the
Shocked Howie made that deal. The first really baffling thing he’s done in many years.
Shocked Howie made that deal. The first really baffling thing he’s done in many years.
I totally agree. He has had mind numbing dumb plays here. He does not have that winning magic like other players. His going to the eagles is addition by subtractions. The RB room this year is going to out produce what Barkley did the past several seasons easily.
Saquon has issues too….I believe he lost that break away speed because guys were catching him from behind and I don’t recall many long runs. He dances too much and you don’t want him to run on 3rd and one. He made that huge fumble falling down in the Green Bay game that almost cost us the game. He doesn’t know when to fall down…shows me he is not as cerebral as he should be or many the coaches aren’t doing their jobs coaching them up. Plus he has a resume of injuries that surely has affected him. I have no doubt being on a team with his OL and all their weapons he will do well, but I’m sure we can easily replace him much cheaply.
Singletary, Travis, maybe Gray, and watch for Dante Miller. I’m very happy…
I remember games when the OL was so bad, he was getting hit a second or less after he got the ball. He was breaking that first tackle every time to get positive yards.
All of that said, I am fine with moving on and while we all give the organization shit for holding onto mistakes for too long, we have to give them credit here for how they handled his contract.
That plus a shit team and oline that allowed a jail break on almost every other play. Injuries are your fault and battling through injuries for the betterment of the team only gets you more flak. No win situation.
Teams STILL played the Giants like it was rookie Barkley back there, which opened up the RPO for Jones.
NOW, that’s gone, and Jones has to be THE guy to make the offense go. Problem is, he’s already proven he can’t do it by himself.
Shocked Howie made that deal. The first really baffling thing he’s done in many years.
Barkley had many of his best games against the Eagles. Even Great GM’s make emotional decisions.
Teams STILL played the Giants like it was rookie Barkley back there, which opened up the RPO for Jones.
NOW, that’s gone, and Jones has to be THE guy to make the offense go. Problem is, he’s already proven he can’t do it by himself.
I really don't see Barkley as anything special anymore. He's not very good in the passing game, he's not a very good pass blocker (he knows who to block, but doesn't want to), he's not a very good between the tackles runner, and he doesn't have breakaway speed anymore. He is poor keeping an offense on schedule. And he's injury prone and constantly checks himself out of games.
I just don't see an overly impressive RB anymore. I see him as a decent all-around RB with a veteran presence and outstanding cheerleader-type leadership skills (but not necessarily on-field leadership). That's about it.
But I also am excited about having a RBBC with Travis and Miller and possibly Gray. Millers speed greatly intrigues me and Travis’ ability to get yards after Impact is not what we saw with Saquon.
Singletary has 4.6 yd average for 4040 yds and 20 tds with 175 receptions.
Singletary is not going to replace Barkley's production, but he's going to be adequate. He has had a better yards per carry, but it's hard to compare players on different teams.
And don't forget, we are also getting a dynamic return man (with good hands). I am excited by this pick.
Put him behind a good offensive line and with threats in the passing game and then we can have a good discussion. Last I saw there are 11 men on the field at a time and if they don't do their job collectively nothing looks good.
Barkley is the poster child for why you don't spend a top pick on a RB. The position is too dependent on the OL play, no matter how good you are. Unfortunately I will not be surprised if he does great behind the Philly OL
The first block he makes successfully or the first chip that actually sends a pass rusher off course will probably be in Philly or maybe at home in his dreams.
I told all my Philly friends that for $37 Million, that contract may end badly.
The first block he makes successfully or the first chip that actually sends a pass rusher off course will probably be in Philly or maybe at home in his dreams.
I told all my Philly friends that for $37 Million, that contract may end badly.
PFF ranked Barkley as one of the top pass blocking RBs the last two years. I've linked the article from 2022
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You don't think Barkley is worth the dough, that's one thing. The hot takes about some ham and egg, easily replaced running back like Singletary being the equal or better is just nuts.
Now he will be playing with one of the best quarterbacks and offenses in the NFL. I expect that SB will have the best year of his career.
Teams STILL played the Giants like it was rookie Barkley back there, which opened up the RPO for Jones.
NOW, that’s gone, and Jones has to be THE guy to make the offense go. Problem is, he’s already proven he can’t do it by himself.
Thats been one of the Giants issues.. relying on Barkley as a playmaker from the RB position. moving away from him and adding Malik Nabers should transform the offense in a completely different way..
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Even if it improved the last few years, Singletary has played more snaps the last 5 years than Barkley at a fraction of the price. Really looking forward to the RBBC approach rather than the offense relying so heavily on an injury-prone workhorse. Hopefully Gray can have a better year two. Same with JMS with help from better guards. The clips of Tracy are encouraging. Might be bad news for Brightwell.
If you think Singletary and Barkley are the same player, I have a bridge to sell you. No DC cares about Singletary who had the benefit of being an afterthought in every offense he played in thanks to Allen and Stroud. Barkley was the marked man in our offense because no DC cared if Jones went back to pass.
You don't think Barkley is worth the dough, that's one thing. The hot takes about some ham and egg, easily replaced running back like Singletary being the equal or better is just nuts.
No DC has cared about Saquon in years, that's the idea. He can't even stay on the field. What DC cares about a running back on IR? Singletary is healthy and part of actual gameplans so DCs need to plan on him being out there for 4 quarters. Saquan could easily be taken out of games.
3rd and less than 3 to go: Barkley is only 26/42 and Singletary is 26/39. Even in 2022 when he was healthy they only trusted Barkley on 3rd and short 6 times all year and he converted just 2. He just isn't good with all the injuries. Singletary has stayed healthy and productive: Singletary was 4/7 last year.
Fine moving on from him but I have some concerns they take a step back. I look forward to seeing Tracy and the other RB's and what they bring to the team. Better OL/TE play will help.
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Even if it improved the last few years, Singletary has played more snaps the last 5 years than Barkley at a fraction of the price. Really looking forward to the RBBC approach rather than the offense relying so heavily on an injury-prone workhorse. Hopefully Gray can have a better year two. Same with JMS with help from better guards. The clips of Tracy are encouraging. Might be bad news for Brightwell.
If you think Singletary and Barkley are the same player, I have a bridge to sell you. No DC cares about Singletary who had the benefit of being an afterthought in every offense he played in thanks to Allen and Stroud. Barkley was the marked man in our offense because no DC cared if Jones went back to pass.
You don't think Barkley is worth the dough, that's one thing. The hot takes about some ham and egg, easily replaced running back like Singletary being the equal or better is just nuts.
No DC has cared about Saquon in years, that's the idea. He can't even stay on the field. What DC cares about a running back on IR? Singletary is healthy and part of actual gameplans so DCs need to plan on him being out there for 4 quarters. Saquan could easily be taken out of games.
3rd and less than 3 to go: Barkley is only 26/42 and Singletary is 26/39. Even in 2022 when he was healthy they only trusted Barkley on 3rd and short 6 times all year and he converted just 2. He just isn't good with all the injuries. Singletary has stayed healthy and productive: Singletary was 4/7 last year.
You think the Eagles will “trust Barkley”?
Well, he will hear about it and then the Eagles will likely be able to make the points up afterward. Same with Toney here vs KC.
Barring injury Barkley is going to make a ton of plays for Philly that will offset the few bad ones by a wide margin. Giants just couldn’t overcome his mistakes, we basically had no other way of scoring. What other offense in the NFL operated that way for that long?
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However, he holds some responsibility for our QB's getting pressured, hit and/or killed.
The first block he makes successfully or the first chip that actually sends a pass rusher off course will probably be in Philly or maybe at home in his dreams.
I told all my Philly friends that for $37 Million, that contract may end badly.
PFF ranked Barkley as one of the top pass blocking RBs the last two years. I've linked the article from 2022 Link - ( New Window )
I personally LMAO at this. If it's about knowing who to block and making any kind of effort, fine. But the actually effectiveness of his blocks? He's a borderline coward taking hits head on. It always P'd me off when he was here too and I said it many times. The Giants have a proud history of outstanding pass blocking RBs. Barkley isn't one of them.
He still has moments of greatness but they a getting less and less. I think Philly overpaid for him. I think he is best as a part time player in a rotation. He can’t carry the load. Maybe 10 touches a game.
Excited to see the rotation the Giants use this year. I think we will have more production that last year.
What we really need now is a consistent 4 YPC and a yard when we need it. We weren't going to get that from SB. Hopefully it's Singletary and the committee behind him. If not, RB is a '25 need.