They are now interviewing outside candidates to run football operations AFTER just choosing a QB at #3 overall in the draft? You think the new head of football operations would have liked to be involved on that decision? Yikes.
Matt Miller
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If the Patriots are interviewing for GMs…who the heck just picked the QB at No. 3 overall? |
2 Guys did that.
They are gone.
I expect a disaster.
Too much for everyone to live up to.
Maye will crack and so will the the HC.
You could find a very similar thread reacting to the Bills' similar move a couple of years ago. It happens, fans don't get it, and the discussion is always the same.
Often teams after the draft let go their GM, scouts, and other figures who were instrumental is selecting the players in the recent draft (and even free agency).
I always say why not do it before the draft and let the new guy/people come in and select their "guy(s)"
the retort is usually something to the effect of "it takes too long to prep and they don't want their thinking leaked" which is a BS answer IMO.
it makes no sense to me to keep people around for the draft or to make free agency decisions who you know will not be part of the future.
Kraft never gave Wolf the job. Seems like it was a temporary set of responsibilities to bridge the gap between Belichick and the eventual replacement.
It is strange Kraft just didn't just go interview people for GM after the season, but maybe he didn't feel there was enough time.
Be that as it may, it seems pretty obvious Kraft picks the QB.
this is not astrophysics.
257 players were drafted, and if you add in maybe 200 UDFAs that's 457 players and say maybe another 43 you scout that don't get drafted or selected 500 players for the upcoming draft.
you can't learn everything you need to know about 500 people in 4 weeks, 8 weeks? what is necessary?
And keep in mind you're not probably hiring people from a different field, you are likely hiring people either already preparing for the draft for a different organization or from college and they're not learning a new trade. So when people say "the process starts in September or October or even before then", great so whoever they select is probably already doing it.
I cannot think of another field where you keep someone around to make a key decision knowing already they won't be around to deal with the consequences and thinking it makes sense.
It looks like the discord was on the Pats side and they were the ones who reneged on the deal, throwing our asshats for a loop.
It looks like the discord was on the Pats side and they were the ones who reneged on the deal, throwing our asshats for a loop.
Probably due to Kraft changing his mind, good riddance.
this is not astrophysics.
257 players were drafted, and if you add in maybe 200 UDFAs that's 457 players and say maybe another 43 you scout that don't get drafted or selected 500 players for the upcoming draft.
you can't learn everything you need to know about 500 people in 4 weeks, 8 weeks? what is necessary?
And keep in mind you're not probably hiring people from a different field, you are likely hiring people either already preparing for the draft for a different organization or from college and they're not learning a new trade. So when people say "the process starts in September or October or even before then", great so whoever they select is probably already doing it.
I cannot think of another field where you keep someone around to make a key decision knowing already they won't be around to deal with the consequences and thinking it makes sense.
I think you hit on the issue. Candidates are working for other teams in their draft preparation and it might be difficult/complicated for them to leave at that time. First it is not a good time to leave your current employer and it could also could open up issues regarding proprietary information. It is possible that their current team might be fine with it, but if not then its best to let things play out.
Clearly Kraft isn't keen on Wolf as his long term guy, which does invite the question "why let him handle this offseason for you?".
Reid had a nice run with the Eagles and since then they've gone to 2 SB's winning the Franchises only SB.
Giants phased out TC over time and that hasn't aged well. Plenty of other franchises had to replace legends with mixed results.
And keep in mind you're not probably hiring people from a different field, you are likely hiring people either already preparing for the draft for a different organization or from college and they're not learning a new trade. So when people say "the process starts in September or October or even before then", great so whoever they select is probably already doing it.
Let’s focus on the point made above. Most people are employees at will. The NFL is not because of the contracts. Thus as a GM how are you hiring a scout from another team? What owner would give permission to leave the organization?
Joe made this move with Brandon brown by giving him a promotion. What scout are you promoting to take from another team
Other GMs got pissed and then moved to change the rules after the draft. Thus wink wink nod nod we won’t poach again
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And keep in mind you're not probably hiring people from a different field, you are likely hiring people either already preparing for the draft for a different organization or from college and they're not learning a new trade. So when people say "the process starts in September or October or even before then", great so whoever they select is probably already doing it.
Let’s focus on the point made above. Most people are employees at will. The NFL is not because of the contracts. Thus as a GM how are you hiring a scout from another team? What owner would give permission to leave the organization?
Joe made this move with Brandon brown by giving him a promotion. What scout are you promoting to take from another team
Other GMs got pissed and then moved to change the rules after the draft. Thus wink wink nod nod we won’t poach again
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thank you - contract is a legitimate answer, but I do think you can fire someone under contract. And my point is also why would you have someone involved in such a critical decision and then relieve them of their job after they make it when you knew before they made it you were going to fire them - you see it at the GM level post-draft too.
If the excuse is "they know our plans we can't let them go, they'll tell everyone" 1: I think the Giants have done a good enough job of that themselves and 2: if that person was an influencer or decision maker whose to say when they get let go the new influencer or decision maker feels the same?
Anyway, not a huge deal, but every time this comes up I feel like something doesn't add up.
kraft seemed to want to give wolf a chance,
but he also seemed to set him up to fail.
there was a rumor somewhere kraft had some outside consultant involved in their draft process.
long story short this seems like a conscious decision by kraft to make their offseason a "trial run" before deciding who the next GM should be. seems enormously stupid to me.
should have just gone through a real process and named someone GM. whoever that person is can still get fired at any time if some better candidate comes along.
very hard to hire the right people in NFL front offices but kraft seems to be making it even harder.
Clearly Kraft isn't keen on Wolf as his long term guy, which does invite the question "why let him handle this offseason for you?".
Personally I am glad that the Giants didn't trade two First Rounders for Maye. I don't think he's worth it.
Now, not using #6 on McCarthy when he falls to #6? That's another story...