Boomer's comments during the documentary were absolutely disgraceful. What a moron. First, he says that the Giants organziation and Parcells coddled LT. How does he know that? Was he there in the Giants locker room or organization? Such a moronic comment.
Worse, yet, he says people hate AROD and the PED players, but somehow do not hate the players who use Cocaine and implies that there is this double standard. Yes, Boomer you idiot. LT was not trying to cheat, he was someone who was addicted to drugs. If anything, it hurt his performance. By contrast, A-Rod and the PED players are trying to cheat the game and improve their performance, that is why fans hate them Boomer, you idiot.
I know there is a thread about this show, but this deserves it owns thread. In part because the LT documentary thread should be about an interesting documentary that does an excellent job of trying to explain LT and his many faults, not get bogged down by some idiot (Boomer) who is obviously too dumb to even realize how stupid he is. However, Boomer should be called out.
Lt did get away with a ton of shit, don't know I would call it coddling.More like turning a blind eye, although I believe Parcells gave him shit on more than a few ocassions.
As for the coke, i don't care what anyone says, It helped him a few times to deliver his "snotshots". A Coked up LT is nothing to sneeze at, he'd fuck you up.
As far as his personal life, a mess, sure, seedy, sordid and tragic to behold. The one thing I thing that fans at the time realized was the relationship he had with them. This wasn't some aloof megolomaniac who was full of himself, this was a man who cherished his relationship with hsi fans, even as he himself tarnished his own legacy.
When they retired his number, he came out and said to us all, in the middle of the field at Giants Stadium,"This is about YOU and ME". He knew he wasn't perfect, and his life was already a mess at that point, but he never forsook his team, or his fans.For that I will always be grateful, and for all those Sunday afternoons I watched him terrorize the rest of the NFL as he changed the way the game was played.
Boomer can go Fuck Himself.
IMO LT abused himself with drugs, he didn't take them to get any type of edge on the field. I would be shocked to find out differently.
What is disgraceful is that for someone who was not in the locker room or in the organization to say that the Giants were to blame for LT's problems and that they enabled him is absurd. He has no idea what the Giants knew, what they did to get him help, or any of that. He was not there. If Boomer wanted to say, many teams in that era coddled stars, then that would be a valid opinion. I would also add that just because there is a perception that the Giants coddled him, doesn't make it so. Nobody here knows what the Giants did and did not do.
Second, I rarely get into the name calling that is prevalent on this site, but I really need to contain myself because I am about to explode. Anyone who thinks that abusing cocaine or crack (and LT used crack a lot of the time) will improve your performance and is comparable to HGH or Steroids is just so out in left field, I really wonder if they have any reasoning capacity.
I really don't see the outrage over someone having an opinion, regardless if I agree with it or not. Boomer is entitled to his.
just a few weeks ago, I watched the Glickman documentary and he said he always regretted not standing up for his black teammate who was allowed to play in the south. he regretted not standing up for him and said he could have done more, but did not because he did not want to be seen as a trouble maker.
parcells career is over, he is in the hall of fame, if he thinks he coddled him, it would be far from unprecedented to say that he wished he had done more or that he made mistakes etc and what those mistakes were. on the contrary, Parcells was furious about people who have lodged those allegations.
But let's just take him by his word and bash anyone that says different. Makes sense.
When asked about his guy, Stanley Wilson being so high during the SB, Boomer claimed he had no knowledge of his cocaine use during the SB which of course several members of the Bengals laughed off since it was common knowledge that several players "partied" the night before the game.
I am not saying who I actually think is right, because I just don't know, nor do you. That's my only point.
Don't understand. Everything is discussed everywhere in this country no matter how furious people get. Like abortion and the death penalty.
A lot of people think that it's OK to talk about what LT did but you shouldn't throw stones at him unless you're almost perfect yourself or you're sure that you, dealt the same hand as LT, would have played the cards better.
That's where I actually give the Francesser a bit of credit. He has stances - he's completely wrong on a lot of them, but he tends not to sway as much. Boomer will pick the side of the fence that will generate as much buzz as possible today and abandon it tomorrow.
"I might have gone for that fumble if it was me"...
and the other guys go "Did you just say you might have gone for the fumble?" incredulously.
Boomer was embarrassed, you could tell he wanted to take it back.
He has 0.0% credibility in my book. I don't believe a word he says.
No one could do what LT could do on the field and the Giants weren't going to lose that "star" player no matter what. That's happened about 100,000 times in the NFL including this week in SF.
I'll bet Boomer doesn't dare mention that on the "NFL" pre game show though.
Boomer's issue with LT is about the strike in 1987. But he doesn't have the guts to say it because he works for the NFL and he's a total hypocrite in every way.
Any of you that support that WFAN morning show by listening to it or buying anything those two assholes sponsor or promote are getting what you deserve.
It was kind of sad to see.
Boomer comes across as a pretentious ass, holier than thou, jealous former player. Everyone else interviewed seemed kind of honest, but respectful, except Boomer.
Randy- "Mind bottling"? Not only the dumbest post but also the dumbest phrase to boot.
Boomer can't talk about other player because he's from East Islip?
Boomer is actually harder on the Jets than he ever is on the gmen. If Boomer were talking about Mark Gastineau nobody here would have an issue, take a step back and judge LT objectively. I love LT but it is laughable the way some people on here are defending him.
Hmmmnn???
“What the hell you got Boomer Esiason on something that — a piece you do of me? We can’t stand each other, he don’t know a f–k about me. What the hell’s he doing on it?” Taylor told Sid Rosenberg of 640 WMEN radio.
“First of all, Boomer’s a dickhead,” Taylor added. “Hey, listen. I remember when he was there running the streets, screwing all kind of hoes. Don’t give me that holier than thou sh-t. I don’t wanna hear that sh-t. . . . He gets off on it. He’s still talking about me. I ain’t talking about him.”
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He was the best all-time, and could not have ascended higher, pun intended. That he did it his way is a reflection of his talent and ability. Weight rooms and diets and dabbling in PEDs are for those who come in scond or worse. It's more than likely that any other path - including overdeveloping - could lead to injury or some other impediment to greatness.
Appreciate the GOAT for what he was
Total coddling.
First off, I thought it was a really well done piece that I enjoyed very much. From beginning to end it had me captivated and I really enjoyed the comments from former players, coaches and people who knew LT back then.
Which brings me to Esiason's comments. Although I wouldn't go so far as to call them 'disgraceful', they did seem to have a real agenda behind them. I remember thinking that during the program whenever he came on. Keep in mind, this is coming from someone who had no idea about their past dislike for each other so I was confused as to where it was all coming from. Figured it was because he was a former Jet.
So with that said, I have no idea why they'd include Esiason in the piece. I can see if this was some kind of documentary or biographical piece that was 'unauthorized' (or in other words, the main character the piece was about was him or herself in no way affiliated with the piece on a personal level), but to have a guy that blatantly does not like the person who you're doing the piece on strikes me as strange...and LT letting it go (I'm guessing he had a say in the final cut) is even weirder (and then to complain about it afterwards is the weirdest of them all!).
Lastly, he's got some fine ass daughters! But how messed up that now his son is in trouble for...rape?
People forget that soundbites are a part of a much longer expressed opinion and that they are in response to specifically asked questions. Boomer didn't call a press conference to attack LT. He was asked questions and he responded to them. THe director then edited the documentary to use the soundbites that best fit the story he himself was trying to tell.
I think there is a rational discussion to be made about the way NY fans excoriate ARod for taking PEDs but have no problem idolizing LT and condoning his use of cocaine during the games.
In my experiences with cocaine, I was more focused, more energetic and I felt invincible with supernatural confidence. I would consider all of those effects as performance-enhancing with regards to use on a football field. That the long term effects may be debilitating does not alter the short term positives. In baseball, many PEDs taken by players also have long-term debilitating effects-- that's why steroids are illegal in the first place
I'm not saying that steroids and cocaine boost performance in the same way, just that someone against both uses can think that looking the other way with regard to one substance over the other is inconsistent.
I didn't read LT's book. What could he be referring to when he says that LT trashed the Giants, Parcells, and Belichick?
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