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NFT: Yanks - White Sox, game 1

Greg from LI : 5/17/2024 4:05 pm
Better feast on this sad-sack team

Sad sack  
section125 : 5/17/2024 4:35 pm : link
team? It is a professional baseball team! So what if they are 14-30?

Ok. Yeah, they are bad.
Indeed  
Sec 103 : 5/17/2024 4:35 pm : link
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Torres breaking out this week?  
mfsd : 5/17/2024 4:54 pm : link
Be still my heart. Fun fucking season so far, even though I’ve watched a lot more Knicks and Rangers than Yankees the last few weeks
Took the Yankees in my parlay  
Big Rick in FL : 5/17/2024 5:54 pm : link
With the Knicks and some Knicks player props. So if either team gets smacked around tonight blame it on me.
RE: Took the Yankees in my parlay  
section125 : 5/17/2024 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16518466 Big Rick in FL said:
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With the Knicks and some Knicks player props. So if either team gets smacked around tonight blame it on me.


Damn it, mon!

RE: RE: Took the Yankees in my parlay  
Big Rick in FL : 5/17/2024 7:14 pm : link
In comment 16518511 section125 said:
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With the Knicks and some Knicks player props. So if either team gets smacked around tonight blame it on me.



Damn it, mon!


Yup! Puboically shame me into not betting on NY teams anymore. Thanks! Lol
This Judge Kid  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/17/2024 7:19 pm : link
insanity
Judge just  
kcgiants : 5/17/2024 7:20 pm : link
launched one out!!!
I did predict it to myself.  
section125 : 5/17/2024 7:22 pm : link
That was a Stanton shot..5 doubles and 2 HRs in last 8 ABs that were not walks...
RE: RE: RE: Took the Yankees in my parlay  
section125 : 5/17/2024 7:23 pm : link
In comment 16518512 Big Rick in FL said:
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With the Knicks and some Knicks player props. So if either team gets smacked around tonight blame it on me.



Damn it, mon!




Yup! Puboically shame me into not betting on NY teams anymore. Thanks! Lol


Pubically?
Well up  
section125 : 5/17/2024 8:31 pm : link
3-1 in the sixth. Nestor workman like.
Stanton with a Stanton  
section125 : 5/17/2024 8:45 pm : link
screamer deep into the lower LF stands... only 116 mph. 4-1
We are rolling.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/17/2024 8:48 pm : link
:)
Effin Hamilton blowing the  
section125 : 5/17/2024 9:19 pm : link
game completely in the 8th...

4-2. Now 2nd and 3rd with one out, Double, single, double.

And of course Boone now brings in Ferguson....
Shocking!  
section125 : 5/17/2024 9:22 pm : link
Ferguson gets it done. K and a fly to RF. Still 4-2
Way to go, Ferguson!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/17/2024 9:23 pm : link
Whew.
Yankees win!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/17/2024 9:41 pm : link
Woohoo!
Holmes got Laz Diazed  
section125 : 5/17/2024 9:42 pm : link
and then Laz evened it up on the last strike.

But Laz was not bad tonight.

Another win...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Took the Yankees in my parlay  
Big Rick in FL : 5/17/2024 9:54 pm : link
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With the Knicks and some Knicks player props. So if either team gets smacked around tonight blame it on me.



Damn it, mon!




Yup! Puboically shame me into not betting on NY teams anymore. Thanks! Lol



Pubically?


Was driving! Idk why my phone autocorrects to that lol I meant publicly
a couple of bumps in the road in this one but  
Del Shofner : 5/17/2024 10:17 pm : link
overall another good game. Nestor was plus, and the Yanks are something like 35 and 4 when Judge and Stanton both homer. BTW they tied A-Rod and Jorge tonight for 5th on the Yankee list of homering in the same game. But Mantle/Maris and Ruth/Gehrig must have some crazy #s in that department.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Took the Yankees in my parlay  
section125 : 5/17/2024 10:51 pm : link
In comment 16518659 Big Rick in FL said:
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Pubically?



Was driving! Idk why my phone autocorrects to that lol I meant publicly


I was just being a wiseass.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Took the Yankees in my parlay  
BigBlueShock : 5/17/2024 10:55 pm : link
In comment 16518659 Big Rick in FL said:
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With the Knicks and some Knicks player props. So if either team gets smacked around tonight blame it on me.



Damn it, mon!




Yup! Puboically shame me into not betting on NY teams anymore. Thanks! Lol



Pubically?



Was driving! Idk why my phone autocorrects to that lol I meant publicly

You’re checking out BBI AND posting on BBI while you’re driving? Seriously? Wtf?
Keller v Gil  
Del Shofner : 5/18/2024 10:41 am : link
@ 1:05 pm today
Stanton is hitting 1000 since I said that he could get replaced  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/18/2024 2:02 pm : link
by Dominguez.


Thank you. No applause necessary.

I wonder if this will work for Gleyber?
Gil is flat out dominating after a shaky 1st inning  
Stu11 : 5/18/2024 2:28 pm : link
11k through 5 including 6 on a row right now. Soto blasting out of his mini slump with 2 absolute bombs. Stanton bashing holes in windows. Man this team is on a roll right now.
14Ks for Gil today. He and this team are just rolling.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/18/2024 2:50 pm : link
So much fun to watch.

6-1 Good Guys!
Cashman has work to do this offseason  
Eightshamrocks : 5/18/2024 3:34 pm : link
Both Soto AND Holmes need to be re-signed, and I don't want to hear any excuses from Hal and company. George would have had those two re-upped already. Better not let either one walk.
Soto went 4-4 with 2HRs today.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/18/2024 3:47 pm : link
Gil has continued his impressive run. This team is really fun to watch these days.

32-15.
RE: Cashman has work to do this offseason  
rich in DC : 5/18/2024 3:50 pm : link
In comment 16519107 Eightshamrocks said:
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Both Soto AND Holmes need to be re-signed, and I don't want to hear any excuses from Hal and company. George would have had those two re-upped already. Better not let either one walk.


Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me…

Soto is a Boras client. He is NOT signing before FA no matter what nonsense you want to spout about George.

It also tells me you are just parroting some bullshit you heard from someone older than you. if you REALLY remembered how things were under George, you would remember that the Yanks won NOTHING for most of his time in NY (except in the late 1970’s) and didn’t begin to win again until he got suspended and Micheal and Watson rebuild the team from the farm system on up.

Best to say nothing and have people think you are a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt
Fun fact: This was Soto's First Multi-HR Game as a Yankee,  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/18/2024 3:52 pm : link
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RE: RE: Cashman has work to do this offseason  
Eightshamrocks : 5/18/2024 4:03 pm : link
In comment 16519113 rich in DC said:
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Both Soto AND Holmes need to be re-signed, and I don't want to hear any excuses from Hal and company. George would have had those two re-upped already. Better not let either one walk.



Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me…

Soto is a Boras client. He is NOT signing before FA no matter what nonsense you want to spout about George.

It also tells me you are just parroting some bullshit you heard from someone older than you. if you REALLY remembered how things were under George, you would remember that the Yanks won NOTHING for most of his time in NY (except in the late 1970’s) and didn’t begin to win again until he got suspended and Micheal and Watson rebuild the team from the farm system on up.

Best to say nothing and have people think you are a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt
Ever heard the term "Gentleman's agreement"? Locked up unofficially. If either of these two are gone, it would be a disaster for the Yankees.
RE: Fun fact: This was Soto's First Multi-HR Game as a Yankee,  
Del Shofner : 5/18/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16519117 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Another fun fact: Gil set a record today for Ks by a Yankee rookie P, with 14 Ks (passing Orlando Hernandez, who by coincidence threw out the ceremonial first pitch today!).
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Cashman has work to do this offseason  
bwitz : 5/18/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16519123 Eightshamrocks said:
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Both Soto AND Holmes need to be re-signed, and I don't want to hear any excuses from Hal and company. George would have had those two re-upped already. Better not let either one walk.



Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me…

Soto is a Boras client. He is NOT signing before FA no matter what nonsense you want to spout about George.

It also tells me you are just parroting some bullshit you heard from someone older than you. if you REALLY remembered how things were under George, you would remember that the Yanks won NOTHING for most of his time in NY (except in the late 1970’s) and didn’t begin to win again until he got suspended and Micheal and Watson rebuild the team from the farm system on up.

Best to say nothing and have people think you are a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt

Ever heard the term "Gentleman's agreement"? Locked up unofficially. If either of these two are gone, it would be a disaster for the Yankees.


It’s nice to know you’re a dumbfuck on a multitude of subjects.
RE: RE: Cashman has work to do this offseason  
section125 : 5/18/2024 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16519113 rich in DC said:
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In comment 16519107 Eightshamrocks said:


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Both Soto AND Holmes need to be re-signed, and I don't want to hear any excuses from Hal and company. George would have had those two re-upped already. Better not let either one walk.



Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me…

Soto is a Boras client. He is NOT signing before FA no matter what nonsense you want to spout about George.

It also tells me you are just parroting some bullshit you heard from someone older than you. if you REALLY remembered how things were under George, you would remember that the Yanks won NOTHING for most of his time in NY (except in the late 1970’s) and didn’t begin to win again until he got suspended and Micheal and Watson rebuild the team from the farm system on up.

Best to say nothing and have people think you are a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt


rich, might disagree with you a bit here. Boras fell on his ass this off season and the players know it. Soto is smart. If he really enjoys playing here, he will tell Boras to get a deal done. It will not be soon. But I do think that if Hal's numbers are ballpark, and Soto likes what he sees, it can get done.

FWIW, the players like Boone. The team is fun and they are playing well. I would say 50/50 he gets a deal by Oct.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Cashman has work to do this offseason  
Eightshamrocks : 5/18/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16519127 bwitz said:
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Both Soto AND Holmes need to be re-signed, and I don't want to hear any excuses from Hal and company. George would have had those two re-upped already. Better not let either one walk.



Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me…

Soto is a Boras client. He is NOT signing before FA no matter what nonsense you want to spout about George.

It also tells me you are just parroting some bullshit you heard from someone older than you. if you REALLY remembered how things were under George, you would remember that the Yanks won NOTHING for most of his time in NY (except in the late 1970’s) and didn’t begin to win again until he got suspended and Micheal and Watson rebuild the team from the farm system on up.

Best to say nothing and have people think you are a fool rather than speak and remove all doubt

Ever heard the term "Gentleman's agreement"? Locked up unofficially. If either of these two are gone, it would be a disaster for the Yankees.



It’s nice to know you’re a dumbfuck on a multitude of subjects.
Oh yea? You're such a great Giants fan, you'd rather see the team fail so you could be proven right about Jones. Some fan you are. As for the Yankees point, care to address the massive failure it would be to let Soto and Holmes walk? Or are you too busy spewing out insults and personal attacks?
Soto and Holmes  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/18/2024 4:23 pm : link
Soto first. Nobody knows what Soto is thinking or what he wants to do except Soto. If he's made up his mind he's going to chase the absolute highest dollar then Cohen might get him. That's only of Soto doesn't mind watching the playoffs on TV for the next 13 years. If he's decided he wants to be a Yankee even if someone offers little more, he's still be out of his mind to sign midseason. He'll wait for free agency and see what the market is.

As for Holmes. If he hits free agency someone is going to offer him a ridiculous contract in the neighborhood of $17 mil x 4, especially after that insane contract Cohen gave to Diaz a couple of years ago. I'd pass. If there's one thing the Yankees do well its find and develop relief pitchers.
RE: Soto and Holmes  
section125 : 5/18/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16519132 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Soto first. Nobody knows what Soto is thinking or what he wants to do except Soto. If he's made up his mind he's going to chase the absolute highest dollar then Cohen might get him. That's only of Soto doesn't mind watching the playoffs on TV for the next 13 years. If he's decided he wants to be a Yankee even if someone offers little more, he's still be out of his mind to sign midseason. He'll wait for free agency and see what the market is.

As for Holmes. If he hits free agency someone is going to offer him a ridiculous contract in the neighborhood of $17 mil x 4, especially after that insane contract Cohen gave to Diaz a couple of years ago. I'd pass. If there's one thing the Yankees do well its find and develop relief pitchers.


Ron, you can get pitchers in the pen that are effective. Holmes has been steadily improving. Closers are a different animal. If Holmes continues as he has been pitching, the Yanks pay the piper and keep him. He is not done improving, he still has upside.
RE: RE: Soto and Holmes  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/18/2024 4:41 pm : link
In comment 16519137 section125 said:
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Soto first. Nobody knows what Soto is thinking or what he wants to do except Soto. If he's made up his mind he's going to chase the absolute highest dollar then Cohen might get him. That's only of Soto doesn't mind watching the playoffs on TV for the next 13 years. If he's decided he wants to be a Yankee even if someone offers little more, he's still be out of his mind to sign midseason. He'll wait for free agency and see what the market is.

As for Holmes. If he hits free agency someone is going to offer him a ridiculous contract in the neighborhood of $17 mil x 4, especially after that insane contract Cohen gave to Diaz a couple of years ago. I'd pass. If there's one thing the Yankees do well its find and develop relief pitchers.



Ron, you can get pitchers in the pen that are effective. Holmes has been steadily improving. Closers are a different animal. If Holmes continues as he has been pitching, the Yanks pay the piper and keep him. He is not done improving, he still has upside.
Yes, Holmes is the best closer in baseball now. That isn't saying much as there are no great closers in baseball. Obviously there's no one like Mariano, but there's not even anyone in the class of Robertson, Miller, Papelbon, or Hoffman. Holmes has been inconsistent throughout his career, he rarely has a 1-2-3 inning and if you watch his games he's been extremely lucky. Yes he has improved. He's now mixing in other pitches with his sinker and he's hitting more spots with his sinker, but not to the point where I'd want to throw $15 million + multi year at him. If Holmes agrees to a reasonable 2 year extension now, then go for, but I don't think they should be opening the vault for him.
RE: RE: RE: Soto and Holmes  
Eightshamrocks : 5/18/2024 4:53 pm : link
In comment 16519146 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 16519132 Ron from Ninerland said:


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Soto first. Nobody knows what Soto is thinking or what he wants to do except Soto. If he's made up his mind he's going to chase the absolute highest dollar then Cohen might get him. That's only of Soto doesn't mind watching the playoffs on TV for the next 13 years. If he's decided he wants to be a Yankee even if someone offers little more, he's still be out of his mind to sign midseason. He'll wait for free agency and see what the market is.

As for Holmes. If he hits free agency someone is going to offer him a ridiculous contract in the neighborhood of $17 mil x 4, especially after that insane contract Cohen gave to Diaz a couple of years ago. I'd pass. If there's one thing the Yankees do well its find and develop relief pitchers.



Ron, you can get pitchers in the pen that are effective. Holmes has been steadily improving. Closers are a different animal. If Holmes continues as he has been pitching, the Yanks pay the piper and keep him. He is not done improving, he still has upside.

Yes, Holmes is the best closer in baseball now. That isn't saying much as there are no great closers in baseball. Obviously there's no one like Mariano, but there's not even anyone in the class of Robertson, Miller, Papelbon, or Hoffman. Holmes has been inconsistent throughout his career, he rarely has a 1-2-3 inning and if you watch his games he's been extremely lucky. Yes he has improved. He's now mixing in other pitches with his sinker and he's hitting more spots with his sinker, but not to the point where I'd want to throw $15 million + multi year at him. If Holmes agrees to a reasonable 2 year extension now, then go for, but I don't think they should be opening the vault for him.
Who would replace him? Hamilton? I get nit wanting to break the bank, but to compete for World Series titles, you either have to have great young players in the farm system, or open up that checkbook. George did what had to be done. Hal needs to take the example of his father. Winning is everything.
RE: RE: RE: Soto and Holmes  
section125 : 5/18/2024 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16519146 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 16519137 section125 said:


Holmes is the best closer in baseball now. That isn't saying much as there are no great closers in baseball. Obviously there's no one like Mariano, but there's not even anyone in the class of Robertson, Miller, Papelbon, or Hoffman. Holmes has been inconsistent throughout his career, he rarely has a 1-2-3 inning and if you watch his games he's been extremely lucky. Yes he has improved. He's now mixing in other pitches with his sinker and he's hitting more spots with his sinker, but not to the point where I'd want to throw $15 million + multi year at him. If Holmes agrees to a reasonable 2 year extension now, then go for, but I don't think they should be opening the vault for him.


Think you had better rethink your list - Papelbon? WTF? There is Mariano and then everyone else. Hader is a guy that is worthy.

But back to reality. Holmes has not been lucky. He is good. He is getting better, not stagnant. The Yankees are ruined by Mariano being that good that long.
RE: RE: Fun fact: This was Soto's First Multi-HR Game as a Yankee,  
Milton : 5/18/2024 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16519126 Del Shofner said:
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Another fun fact: Gil set a record today for Ks by a Yankee rookie P, with 14 Ks (passing Orlando Hernandez, who by coincidence threw out the ceremonial first pitch today!). Link - ( New Window )
Another fun fact, only the fifteenth time a Yankee has had 14 or more strikeouts in a game (and he did it only six innings!)...

p.s.--Brings back memories of Ron Guidry's brilliant two-hitter vs Angels in 1978!
The sixteenth time if you include Clemens playoff game...  
Milton : 5/18/2024 5:27 pm : link
Couldn’t have asked for a better start to the season  
bceagle05 : 5/18/2024 5:31 pm : link
with or without Cole, really. Starting pitching staff is all locked in beyond this season (in some cases, well beyond) so we won’t have to shop hungry anytime soon.
I'm amazed how they haven't missed Cole at all, somehow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/18/2024 6:32 pm : link
Credit to Rodon for picking it up big time compared to last year, and Luis Gil for being absolute FIRE thus far. Those two have gone along way in picking it up in Cole's abscence.

That said, while we haven't missed Cole, I still miss watching the best pitcher in all of baseball do his thing. Can't wait until he comes back.
the other thing is, it's a likable, watchable team  
Del Shofner : 5/18/2024 7:08 pm : link
which, the last couple of years, not so much.
Really enjoying this  
Stu11 : 5/18/2024 7:12 pm : link
I'll worry about signing Soto after the season. Not to mention they'll sign him. He loves it here, they love him. Love the combo of the vet pitchers they signed like Rodon & Stroman and the system guys in Schmidt, Gil & Nestor. These things usually take care of themselves but if Cole comes back and stays healthy and someone needs to leave the rotation, imagine the weapon Gil could be coming out of the pen down the stretch and post season?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Soto and Holmes  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/18/2024 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16519157 Eightshamrocks said:
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Who would replace him? Hamilton? I get nit wanting to break the bank, but to compete for World Series titles, you either have to have great young players in the farm system, or open up that checkbook. George did what had to be done. Hal needs to take the example of his father. Winning is everything.
Great. We have another knucklehead taking the opportunity to knock Hal and wax nostalgic over the good old days of George.

But to answer your question, I don't know who's going to replace Holmes. Just like, at this time last year, I didn't even know who Luke Weaver, Nick Burdi and Victor Gonzalas were. I didn't know that this bullpen would be so good that Ron Marinaccio, who was pretty good last year, can't even crack this roster. So I'm not going to lose any sleep over who the closer is going to be next year.

So the real question is, do we pony up for Holmes ? Since Section 125 mentioned Hader, he's getting $19mil X 5. Thats the benchmark. Is Holmes worth it ? In my mind absolutely not. A closer who demands that kind of money should be someone who is consistent and reliable. Its someone who can roll up bad teams with a 10 or 15 pitch 1-2-3 inning, not a guy who is constantly giving you 25 - 30 pitch nail biters and who is ultimately bailed out by great plays and horrible calls that go his way. Which BTW means he can't pitch the next day. The best closers may have a bad game or two, but then they bounce back. They don't go into weeks long funks, where you have to have another guy warming up in the ninth, just in case.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not trying to run Holmes out of town. If they can sign him to a reasonable 2 year extension great. If he can become a lights out closer, great. If he can't maybe he goes back to being a setup man, not the end of the world. But if he is signed to a Hader/Diaz like contract, they're married to him for the next 4+ years. He's had a good two months, but he's never demonstrated he's worth that.
Speaking of overpaying closers  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/18/2024 7:41 pm : link
Did you see what Diaz just did ? And who he did it against ? OMG !!!
Diaz pointed on the 430 foot HR to dead center  
shyster : 5/18/2024 8:40 pm : link
that tied the game.

You know, the "pop-up" point: "There it is, guys."

Seen some embarrassing "points" before, but 430 right over your head, I don't know.
Mariano  
ElitoCanton : 5/18/2024 8:46 pm : link
really warped perceptions of what a closer should be. Holmes has been unreal this year. He is among the best in the sport. Stop judging him by what we were spoiled with. He's still a top 3 closer in the sport.
And before Mariano...  
Milton : 5/18/2024 8:55 pm : link
There was John Wetteland, Goose Gossage, and Sparky Lyle.
Holmes  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/18/2024 9:01 pm : link
Holmes has been great this year, but that guy on the A's looked like he was throwing 105mph golf balls against the Yankees a few weeks ago.
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