A Philadelphia reporter does a series every summer about rival NFC East teams. This reporter looks at the top 10 reasons why each team will be, in his words, a “dumpster fire.”
While vitriolic, this reporter is usually accurate.
Be careful with responses, because he has been known to publicly shame fans of the opposing teams.
The Cowboys were yesterday, the Giants are today, the Commanders are tomorrow, and the Eagles are Thursday. Friday is usually a summary of all the explicit reactions from fans.
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"Schoen replaced Dave Gettleman, which is about as low a bar as a general manager could ask for, and there's an argument to be made that Gettleman was better than Schoen has been so far."
I was certain it was the other way around?
I was certain it was the other way around?
That's how they lined up in OTAs.
I'm guessing it was to see how they do and may flip them back soon.
As an aside, this guy seems to know more about the Giants than most of the local beat guys. Well done
I'm guessing it was to see how they do and may flip them back soon.
As an aside, this guy seems to know more about the Giants than most of the local beat guys. Well done
Runyon is a better OG than Eluemunor and has played RG for GB, they want the better player next to Neal to give him every chance to succeed. And if Neal isn’t up to it, he can move to LG, where he played at Bama for a season.
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But seems to be an odd decision
I'm guessing it was to see how they do and may flip them back soon.
As an aside, this guy seems to know more about the Giants than most of the local beat guys. Well done
Runyon is a better OG than Eluemunor and has played RG for GB, they want the better player next to Neal to give him every chance to succeed. And if Neal isn’t up to it, he can move to LG, where he played at Bama for a season.
I didn't realize Runyan played RG last season.
I found this
Runyan started all 17 games at right guard in 2023 and allowed just 22 total pressures and two sacks, according to Pro Football Focus. His 92.4 pass rush win rate ranked ninth among all guards, according to ESPN Stats and Info.
Runyan started all 17 games for the Packers in 2022, with 11 at right guard and six at left guard. He started all 17 games at left guard for Green Bay in 2021.
"Schoen replaced Dave Gettleman, which is about as low a bar as a general manager could ask for, and there's an argument to be made that Gettleman was better than Schoen has been so far."
This one ^ should make you think. Is Schoen better than Gettleman????
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I did like this one-
"Schoen replaced Dave Gettleman, which is about as low a bar as a general manager could ask for, and there's an argument to be made that Gettleman was better than Schoen has been so far."
This one ^ should make you think. Is Schoen better than Gettleman????
Can we give the players schoen drafted time to develop before comparing him to gettleman. Andrew Thomas took going into his 3rd year to shut the doubters up. Dexter didn't become who he was until he was switched to DT.
Schoen has had 2 drafts where players have played. There is definite talent and we have seen promise of development, but again this is his 3rd draft.
The Giants got better, I'm optimistic in saying, a good amount better.
Also, the Eagles suck.
Amazing visualization.
Then all the Schoen issues. Big year for both.
If those guys don’t play up to their Day 1 or Day 2 slots, then Schoen will really be on the hot seat.
The sad part is his bit is supposed to be almost parody (he'll bash the eagles as well) but it's so true.
If those guys don’t play up to their Day 1 or Day 2 slots, then Schoen will really be on the hot seat.
Banks and Robinson didn’t show you anything last year?
I’d strongly disagree with that
The others you mentioned I would agree with
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I did like this one-
"Schoen replaced Dave Gettleman, which is about as low a bar as a general manager could ask for, and there's an argument to be made that Gettleman was better than Schoen has been so far."
This one ^ should make you think. Is Schoen better than Gettleman????
C'mon guys, too easily swayed. Shoen took over a shipwreck and IMO has done the best he could to start with. Gettleman has taken severe abuse on this board. Now, because of the article, we're ready to say Gettleman was better.
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In comment 16542284 nygiantfan said:
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I did like this one-
"Schoen replaced Dave Gettleman, which is about as low a bar as a general manager could ask for, and there's an argument to be made that Gettleman was better than Schoen has been so far."
This one ^ should make you think. Is Schoen better than Gettleman????
C'mon guys, too easily swayed. Shoen took over a shipwreck and IMO has done the best he could to start with. Gettleman has taken severe abuse on this board. Now, because of the article, we're ready to say Gettleman was better.
Who says we're ready?
Perfect analysis lol.
It's a big year for him and Daboll for sure.
Our QB/OL/RBs are the worst collection of players in those combined groups in the NFL. The WRs appear to be the best of that group for this franchise since the days of Nicks/Cruz/Manningham, but I have zero confidence that DJ can actually take advantage of the talent of this group. Maybe Lock can step up under Daboll when DJ inevitably fails? The defense is better than the article suggests, but like 2017, can they be good late in games when they have been on the field 70% of the time? I doubt it.
"Dumpster fire", though a bit harsh and utterly offensive given the Philadelphia source, is not an unrealistic descriptor for this franchise until proven otherwise.
That article is supposed to read like The Onion, but could easily be a piece in The Athletic.
I think there are realistic scenarios where this season is a complete shitshow, and I wonder if that's what would best serve the long term interests of the organization.
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That's a tough read, when reality is more sad than the joke.
That article is supposed to read like The Onion, but could easily be a piece in The Athletic.
I think there are realistic scenarios where this season is a complete shitshow, and I wonder if that's what would best serve the long term interests of the organization.
It depends. Does a total shitshow just lead to Ben Johnson? If so, I'd say that wouldn't be good. It would need to bring in a Harbaugh type program builder.
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That's a tough read, when reality is more sad than the joke.
That article is supposed to read like The Onion, but could easily be a piece in The Athletic.
I think there are realistic scenarios where this season is a complete shitshow, and I wonder if that's what would best serve the long term interests of the organization.
We thought that last time it was a complete clown show. It looked promising to start and has since slid backward. Another bad year and we could slide beyond even the Gettleman years
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That's a tough read, when reality is more sad than the joke.
That article is supposed to read like The Onion, but could easily be a piece in The Athletic.
I think there are realistic scenarios where this season is a complete shitshow, and I wonder if that's what would best serve the long term interests of the organization.
It depends. Does a total shitshow just lead to Ben Johnson? If so, I'd say that wouldn't be good. It would need to bring in a Harbaugh type program builder.
Well they could have (and I'd argue should have) just offered him the sun, moon, and stars...but they didn't. I think this organization thinks they're close to really competing. We'll see if they're right.
Problem is, he hasn't made one as good as Thomas or Dexter.
that's the hard part to deal with.
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Problem is, he hasn't made one as good as Thomas or Dexter.
that's the hard part to deal with.
He did. They are Thibodeaux and Nabors.
Problem is, he hasn't made one as good as Thomas or Dexter.
that's the hard part to deal with.
Evan Neal may be one of the biggest busts ever to be drafted... Hard to fault Schoen given Neal's pre-draft pedigree, but he is undoubtedly worse than Barkley.
The season is not played in the papers or online but on the football field. I will wait as they have been wrong many times before
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Banks and Robinson didn’t show you anything last year?
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From where in my post did you get that Banks and Robinson didn’t show me anything last year? SMH some of you have a real problem with reading comprehension.
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Banks and Robinson didn’t show you anything last year?
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From where in my post did you get that Banks and Robinson didn’t show me anything last year? SMH some of you have a real problem with reading comprehension.
My reading comprehension is just fine
No need to be a jerk
You said they need to have a “prove it” year
Wouldn’t that indicate that they need to show something?
I’d say based on last year they don’t need to prove anything as they have already shown they are talented players
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Banks and Robinson didn’t show you anything last year?
From where in my post did you get that Banks and Robinson didn’t show me anything last year? SMH some of you have a real problem with reading comprehension.
My reading comprehension is just fine
No need to be a jerk
You said they need to have a “prove it” year
Wouldn’t that indicate that they need to show something?
I’d say based on last year they don’t need to prove anything as they have already shown they are talented players [/quote]
Robinson has shown flashes, but he also has missed a lot of games to injuries, had only 500 yards last year and only 2 career TDs. He has potential, but has to show more.
Banks also showed potential, but this season he has to play like one of the better CBs in the league.
A lot the Day 1 and Day 2 guys Schoen drafted have shown potential, but the point is that the guys have to translate that into results, or Schoen will be in trouble, IMO.
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In comment 16542460 Mbavaro said:
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Banks and Robinson didn’t show you anything last year?
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From where in my post did you get that Banks and Robinson didn’t show me anything last year? SMH some of you have a real problem with reading comprehension.
My reading comprehension is just fine
No need to be a jerk
You said they need to have a “prove it” year
Wouldn’t that indicate that they need to show something?
I’d say based on last year they don’t need to prove anything as they have already shown they are talented players
They haven’t proved much at all. Showing up sometimes, not showing up sometimes and not playing sometimes isn’t a plus player.
Their draft status is to be a consistent plus player. Until they are they haven’t proved it and the Giants probably won’t consistently win.
They aren't worse than Washington.
These Dumpster Fire articles are fine, and I'll be curious if the writer is as harsh on his own team. Losing six out of the last seven is no joke, including the single win there playing as poorly as they did.
Now, with this writer, it's just unfunny exaggerations, such as... "There's like one guy from those two draft classes (22 and 23) who is clearly a good player".
I will say though that the DJ graphic would have been a little funny, if it wasn't so sadly true.