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Historical Q: What WRs & TEs have improved their hands?

CT Charlie : 6/27/2024 5:41 pm
For longtime Giants fans, I'm raising the question of what Giants WRs and TEs have become significantly better at catching the ball during their careers?

I'm always amazed at the number of drops that some NFL receivers make, given that most of them have been plying their trade for 5-10 years before turning pro. I'm even more amazed that teams hire them just because they're big and fast, or quick and shifty, if they're unreliable when the ball arrives.
Darius Slayton.  
81_Great_Dane : 6/27/2024 5:47 pm : link
Seriously. Worked on it last offseason. It helped.
Evan Engram  
HopePhil and Optimistic : 6/27/2024 6:08 pm : link
Once he left?
Web a while but IIRC Toomer  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/27/2024 7:08 pm : link
Took a couple years to become a real WR here. Hands were part of his improved play after his 2nd year.
RE: Darius Slayton.  
OntheRoad : 6/27/2024 7:45 pm : link
In comment 16544517 81_Great_Dane said:
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Seriously. Worked on it last offseason. It helped.


Slayton improved noticeably.
Slayton  
Toth029 : 6/27/2024 7:46 pm : link
Had his worst years in drops in 2021 and 2022. His previous season improved substantially. He's had an issue with consistency which, while he's talented enough, is why he can't be counted on as a true 1 or maybe even a #2. Daboll was ready to let go before Golladay and Toney splat.

Evan Engram probably pops in people's minds a lot where 2020 was horrendous, and 2021 wasn't very good either, but his first two seasons were okay. His ADOT in 2023 was barely 5 yards. He has the same number on 2021, the great Jason Garrett trying to use him on stick routes - not to his strengths whatsoever. Jags use him on a lot of short crossers or flat routes and try to use his speed in space.
The Giants that come to mind are  
Modzelewski : 6/28/2024 6:08 am : link
(sadly after he left the Giants) Evan Engram, Manningham and Toomer. It's pretty wild to see that Engram is #23 on Giants all-time receiving yards, ahead of the likes of Steve Smith, Manninham, Stephen Baker, Alex Webster and Mark Ingram.
PFR: Giants All-time Receiving Leaders - ( New Window )
Toomer while he was a Giant  
HBart : 6/28/2024 6:46 am : link
Engram after he left.
I recall my Dad and I having discussions...  
Racer : 6/28/2024 10:59 am : link
..back in the day regarding how much better Bavaro got as a hands catcher on balls higher than his shoulderpads after his rookie year.
..not that you can body catch on a high ball..  
Racer : 6/28/2024 11:01 am : link
...lol.
Kevin Boss  
OlyWABigBlue : 6/28/2024 11:31 am : link
Was brought in as a blocking TE back in the day an saw the field as such. Perhaps it was partly the staff noticing he could catch the ball but he was on an upward receiving trajectory until his knee injury.
and of course  
OlyWABigBlue : 6/28/2024 11:31 am : link
Zeke Mowatt
RE: RE: Darius Slayton.  
monstercoo : 6/29/2024 2:50 pm : link
In comment 16544649 OntheRoad said:
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In comment 16544517 81_Great_Dane said:


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Seriously. Worked on it last offseason. It helped.



Slayton improved noticeably.



I would argue that Slayton hands havent improved at all. He's especially inconsistent when catching the ball over his shoulder. Even when he catches the ball, his hand placement is wrong. I believe whatever improvement he had last year was due to them changing the routes he was running. I think Hyatt took on the role of running verticals routes. Slayton can catch the ball when running horizontally, and it seems he gets most of his targets running crossing routes.

His hands are still terrible and always will be - thats why he's not playing on a bigger contract right now.
RE: ..not that you can body catch on a high ball..  
solarmike : 6/29/2024 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16544882 Racer said:
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...lol.


I can't catch but I remember:

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Engram, going-away .....  
Manny in CA : 6/30/2024 1:10 am : link

While here, he couldn't do much right, it seemed (except for a spectacular play, now-and- then). Then he went to Carolina and they figured out what he couldn't do - track the ball over his head.

Toth, you nailed it, the Panthers started throwing the ball on crossers, and his career took off.

Sometimes it's about putting people in positions where THEY can succeed.
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